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This post was my first on masculinity, and a big breakthrough for my blog when Heartiste promoted it- to this day I have never gotten so much traffic from a single retweet than from Heartiste. Someday I'm going to come back to the relationship between masculinity and femininity with more evolved thoughts, but the basics of this remain true: the heart of masculinity is power and the white knight is primarily searching for a masculine identity in a weaselly way by trying to disqualify other, more genuinely masculine men.

also, the white knight referenced in this story grew up to be the biggest fucking pussy you've ever met with MULTIPLE tattoos dedicated to his (eventual) ex-wife. Multiple. More than two. Seriously.

Nothin but love, BBP

The heart of masculinity is a man’s relationship with power; his efficiency in acquiring power, his comfort in holding power, and his ability to maintain power. This is the core of masculinity; the Form of masculinity. There may be markers or signifiers that point toward this, usually these signifiers are mistakenly understood as masculinity itself, but they only aid in coming to understand an individual’s relationship with power.

Masculinity is amoral. It is up to the individual to decide what they do with power once they acquire it.

Conversely, embodying “the nice guy” is signaling an overt relinquishment of power as an attempt to gain respect- ultimately a backhanded, and misguided, approach to appearing masculine. The idea is that the nice guy is so comfortable with his masculinity that he doesn’t need to signal anything traditionally masculine; signaling that he is above traditional masculinity and hoping to disqualify every other man in doing so… and failing miserably.

And, from there, the nice guy must then make a choice in either continuing to peruse a failing strategy or face the bitter truth that niceness only inspires revulsion and hatred in women.

For woman to rationalize this hatred the modern meme became that men are only nice to get sex- entirely bypassing the idea that men have other social needs that may be met by embodying a nice guy persona, like respect and a positive identity.

“Nice men are duplicitous and entitled schemers who assume a front of being unlike all the other guys in order to garner sexual interest in women who would otherwise be disinterested,” or so it goes.

As Feminism is the push for greater female entitlement paired with extinguished responsibility- women feel entitled to hold as much power as they can garner without suffering any of the tribulations of power acquisition, nor are they held to any objective standard that would typically be saddled with power.

Since women feel entitled to the possession of power their response to male power is an attempt to annihilate it, and if annihilation fails, to cast ownership over it; if all else fails, to get fucked by it.

It is entitlement without responsibility that engenders an environment where women are able to unflinchingly objectify men freely and without social criticism or limitation; this objectification creates a culture of categorization where women are able to sort men into one of three groups: attractive/desirable, useful/exploitable, worthless/vile. Only the top group, attractive/desirable, are worthy of female respect- the rest of the men listed are to be reviled, emasculated, and shamed in order to be kept in line; so they do not attempt to grasp power by any means available.

The nice guy is under the impression that a good man is defined by his willingness to immediately relinquish whatever power he may hold or acquire; he is taught to always put the needs of others before his own, not to feel pride or exude confidence, and to emote at all times (preferably in public and to others).** Men are taught that this relinquishment of power will garner respect- in this regard masculinity is cast in a negative light as something toxic; something that only mentally weak or insecure men are concerned with maintaining. They also probably have small dicks, BTW FYI.

The weaker lot of men- the plebeians who are exploited for their resources along with the worthless untouchables, will promptly fall for this social narrative, surrender their power, and in-turn expect respect- this is the majority of men and they are stupid motherfuckers.

The Myth of the Strong Independent Woman

When people lie they often say the opposite of whats true. Take, for instance, the Strong Independent Woman and the idea that to embody masculinity as a female is more difficult and more daring than receding into a feminine role- this is not only incorrect, but it’s the polar opposite of the truth.

Embodying masculinity, in world of gender role negativity, is an easy path for a woman to take. Unlike a male with an overt presence of masculinity, a woman who embodies power and assertion will not have the authenticity of her masculinity tested because the social narrative is in place that the Strong Independent Woman is fighting against the establishment and succeeding- we should applaud her moxie rather than question her credentials.

The perception of the Strong Independent Woman is that she has had a very difficult and challenging path to get to whatever point she may be at- university student, new employee, career woman, middle management- that the average person will mentally applaud her tenacity so loudly that her achievements and ability will appear more impressive than they objectively are.

Since she is Strong and Independent, she will surely not allow herself to be “pushed around” (the parameters of which are defined by her), and she is sure to understand the laundry list of protocols should someone challenge her- using other women, nice men, HR, the police, and the court system to secure her end. And since taking her oppositions side would be understood as being “part of the larger social problem,” she is granted immediate credibility for whatever claim she makes- she has overcome so much already, didn’t you know?

You certainly do not want to fuck with a masculine woman, but for none of the reasons that she believes.

The White Knight as a Perversion of Masculinity

My first experience with a White Knight was when I was a wee lad of fifteen. An awkward, doofy fifteen year old; with my Misfits cassette in my Walkman and my denim jacket. I had just gotten my very first girlfriend, and although I wouldn’t really count this girl as my true first girlfriend in the years that followed, it was nice to be able to see a girl on a Saturday night and touch some boobs. Touching boobs… it was all about touching boobs. The year was 1995, and it was a simpler time.

Some things about me around this time: I had never been in a fight outside of playful roughhousing, I wasn’t much of a bully outside of standard issue High School dickary, and I had no idea what I was doing with a girl. In my mind, you pushed for a hand job maybe around a month, at least two months for a blow job, and sex? That was a discussion to be had after six months- maybe a year.

So, like I said, fumbling with a bra on a Saturday night sounded great.

This girl was the best friend of my friend’s girlfriend. One day, after about a week of my “dating” her (despite seeing her maybe twice), my friend comes up to me at school with a very serious expression on his face and says, “just so you know… if you lay a hand on Colleen… ever…. There’s going to be problem with me and you……”

He seriously said that.

Even as a doofy fifteen year old, I wanted to laugh. LAY A HAND ON HER? This girl that I’m going to be seeing once a week, in her parents rec room, between 7:00 and 11:00pm? So, during that four hour stretch, instead of watching MTV and making out, I’d have to “show her the back of my hand” in order to “keep that [adolescent] bitch in line.”

I said something like “yeah, okay,” just to end the awful, awkward interaction, and it never came up again.

Now, looking back on this, twenty years later, it’s obvious my friend never thought I was going to start beating the shit out of this girl that I dated for less than a month (no hand job), and he certainly didn’t say this for an audience of gushing school girls around us; we were alone. So, why did my friend need to get in my face about street justice? Did bustin’ make him feel good?

White Knights wouldn’t need to be White Knights if they felt comfortable possessing a traditional masculine identity. In place of a traditional masculine identity, the White Knight finds his identity in the self-appointed status of “necessary protector of women.” The White Knight combines traditionalism, in the idea that women are in-need of a tough and fair man to protect them, and Progressiveness where the White Knight happily relinquishes any shred of potential power he may have in order to emphasize that he is unlike those other guys. Since embodying this demolition of masculinity may leave the White Knight feeling weakened, less-adequate, and with a confused identity, he falsely reclaims a feeling of masculinity by asserting moral-superiority over other men through serving social justice.

So, in other words, White Knights are nice guys who feel like pussies.

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[-] redpillcad 32 Points 7 months ago

Nice guys not only finish last. They make women sick

[-] BobbyPeru 21 Points 7 months ago

White knight cucks make everybody sick

[-] mallardcove 20 Points 7 months ago

I used to be a white knight. A mega white knight. It still makes me cringe to think about what I used to do. And I used to be frustrated when my white knight tactics didn't work. Women would always show appreciation at first, but you would eventually wear out your welcome. And the appreciation they showed was platonic, it was never romantic.

In fact it was seeing white knights being ridiculed on TRP that made me swallow the pill. Because I saw myself in the posts that was ridiculing them and realized I had it all wrong.

After a while women will begin to rebel against white knights like they would rebel against their parents. One example was when I was 16. A girl I liked went to a party, got super drunk and had to go to the hopsital for alcohol poisoning. Enter me, sir white knight. I IM'ed her on AIM when she got back from the hospital validating her and saying how special she was and what a great girl she was, and how I would help keep her accountable to put her life back on track and not make so many mistakes. At first she was down with that and appreciative and on board. And of course I saw her appreciation toward me as some kind of IOI so I would try to escalate but would always get shot down and thrown deeper into the friendzone orbit. After a while she probably realized my orbit and constant validation wasn't worth it so she began to actively go out with Chads and party hard and drink heavily and do drugs probably just to spite me and then she would tell me to go fuck myself when I tried to "hold her accountable". Yet all I did was orbit harder and try harder to win her over. After she sent 2 losers to my house to egg it and leave a flaming bag of shit on the doorstep, then called me and screamed FUCK YOU really loud on the phone is when I got the hint, kind of, but I kept until finally coming to my senses a few months later.

However I didn't learn from this, I simply thought I didn't try hard enough, or wasn't nice enough. Since things at first when I played white knight seemed to work out, I would retry the same white knight approach with girls for years to come. I would find a problem in their life, white knight for them and validate them, they would be appreciative at first, they would shoot down my advances, and then eventually frustration would cause whatever "Friendship" we had to blow up.

[-] Dash_of_islam 13 Points 7 months ago

It's a paradox.

People like someone who doesn't care too much about them. And hate someone who won't get off her back.

If you wanna push em to do good, slowly give other girls attention and watch your girl magically figure out how to solve her problem.

[-] tempolaca 3 Points 7 months ago

Don't be as hard on yourself. Your main problem was oneitis, not being a white knight.

Now if you go white knighting girls that you don't give a fuck, in that case then you are truly a despicable man.

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[-] DancesWithPugs 2 Points 7 months ago

'You sound like such a sweet guy I'm sure you will make some lucky woman soooo happy someday.'

[-] p3n1x 2 Points 7 months ago

saying how special she was and what a great girl she was, and how I would help keep her accountable to put her life back on track and not make so many mistakes.

A prime example of the WK-Arrogance. Always assuming people are in distress and are in need of 'your' help. Needy projection. Never once asking "do you need 'my' help". Just conceited ideology of "we are awesome together, let's be on team Us". Thinking that this is exactly what women want....... /cringe

Glad to hear you broke the cycle.

[-] Cum_Victor 19 Points 7 months ago

I am glad my White Knight days have been over. They truly are the worst, and women do not even see them as men. They see them as 'allies' and they are 'useful' until they aren't anymore.

Think of all those 'allies' in Hollywood over the past 2 years that paraded in their pink pussy hats, participated in those marches, and they ended up going down after they outlived their usefulness and got exposed for being a creep.

There is absolutely zero benefit in being a White Knight ally. But hey, they can keep doing them, I will keep doing me. Just stay the fuck outta my way.

[-] MisfitPL9 5 Points 7 months ago

Upvote purely for the Misfits cassette

[-] LastRevision 8 Points 7 months ago

I’ll do you one better- it was a custom mixtape with clips from the appropriate horror movies cut in front of songs. Took hours to get it just right. Sounded amazing.....annnnd I ended up giving it to a girl.

[-] MisfitPL9 3 Points 7 months ago

Ha ha ha ha ha dude - Cringy as fuck - BUT - I have done something similar - gotta laugh now.

[-] DancesWithPugs 5 Points 7 months ago

bustin’ made him feel good

[-] bestsparkyalive 3 Points 7 months ago

God it’s so hard to read stuff and see your blue pill ways laid out in front of you. Fuck me

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[-] sanitypanacea 1 Point 7 months ago

white knights always judge character - everyone hates it when they think you are judging their character!

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