Im 14 and gyms wont allow me in so how should i go about trying to lift, i already do body-weight excercises at home and at the park but i want more and good weights are really quite expensive for me so what should i do

I have started with body weight due to bulging a disc in my back, but damn lifting sure makes the day go by a lot faster and its enjoyable.

A little of this here https://soundcloud.com/user-580652804/the-mark-baxter-podcast-episode-6-rollo-tomassi-and-ed-latimore

Fuck that. Some people just don't spark with lifting. If you see lifting as a choir, it's getting harder and much more disciplin draining the heavier you lift.

For me it's rock climbing. I lost 11 kg and look fucking shredder just by enjoying myself outside with friends and trying hard. I can't do lifting it's too boring.

It doesn't have to be lifting.

I love the barbell. My best lifts are a 445 Squat, 335 Bench, 515 Deadlift, 240 Snatch, and a 305 Clean & Jerk.

It's very easy for me to show up because I like it. The hardest part is picking the right weights, holding myself back, and training smart.

Every human should have some physical pursuit that they love. Lifting, Mountain Biking, Break-dancing, Rugby, whatever. Just as long as you're doing it for yourself. If it takes huge reserves of discipline, then you probably picked the wrong thing. I'd have a much harder time training for a marathon than I would lifting weights because I find that shit to be fucking boring.

But if you don't do anything physical then you're missing out on a huge chunk of being alive.

Just remember one thing. Will it help you get laid(more), yes. Will it change all the bullshit you have to deal with, no.

Haha never gets old The first 99 responses out of 100 to the question " what should i do to be more attractive " is LIFT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

As a personal trainer, I can confirm that time is the biggest excuse for the general population. We here in TRP are not general population, we live by different rules, and therefore need to make whatever adjustments are necessary to be above average.

My day starts at 4:50am so I can get to school(across the city for me) just so I can workout before my classes start. Now I'm not saying that's EXACTLY what you need to start doing, the message behind this is that if something is important enough, you'll find a way to make the time for it. Doesn't matter if you're a single parent with a 60hr a week job, you'll STILL find some time somewhere to play with your kid. If it's important enough, you'll find a way through any excuse.

Amen to this doctrine. Become strong as fuck and it will make you rock solid. Women will love it.

Dude, You are by far to obsessed with lifting. Other sports like Bodyweight training, gymnastics and martial arts also develop a great physique and even cool skills and a good use of the body. Lifting is great for some people, but all the other sports I mentioned are as effective And suit better to other people.

Please stop telling people they need to lift - there is no rational argument that this is much better than some other effective sports - neither to get women, not to get a better physique, nor for health.

I'm in my 40s and lifting is THE big constant in my life. Lifting gives me far more than I give, in terms of personal confidence, what my woman thinks about me, and how the world treats me. Hell, looking at my peers in the 40-50 age range, it's obvious I'd be a much different person without weight lifting (squats, deadlifts, bench, etc.).

Just a note - dont forget the recovery time is longer in the 40's than when your're in your 20's. I find that I can no longer do the 5-6 split due to overtraining - and thats with giving 48 hours between similar muscle groups and alternating routines (push/pull legs vs individual muscle groups per day).

On my off days for rest - I just go swimming

What is your opinion of substituting with martial arts? I am in professional school so of course time is limited, but I made some sacrifices and started training BJJ 5 hours a week to great benefit.

Lifting is Freudian sublimation to red-pillers, similar to how excessive eating is to other groups.

I used to have an attitude that if I missed gym even for a single day, something big is missing from my life. I used to workout for hours. It does work as having a fit body made me feel strong and more confident. I could approach any girl and did get appreciative looks and occasional flirting on the tube, in the mart and the gym from the women without even trying.

However one side effect of too much workout was that my hair started to thin out at the crown. At first I ignored it, then cut my hair really short. My dad is bald and my older brother's hair has also thinned out, though not as much as mine so it could also be due to genetic disposition. I researched this online and male pattern baldness (MPB) occurs due to buildup of DHT in the hair follicles. DHT is a type of potent testosterone which is produced because of a high level of testosterone in the body, a direct consequence of lifting.

I still go to the gym but not on a daily basis and not for hours like I used to before. DHT is in fact good for a man as it helps build muscle and keeps you functioning sexually at an older age, according to research. But it is bad for hair.

Unpopular opinion, but FITNESS should be your oneitis. I say fitness instead of lifting because TheRedPill isn't about slaying as much pussy as you possibly can, it's about having the confidence to do what you want, when you want, how you want. As long as you are doing some kind of workout to better yourself (whether it be lifting, running, bodyweight, material arts, etc) and you stick to that regime, you'll be able to accomplish what you want out of life.

I do agree with some points in this thread about having the discipline to get up and do some kind of regime everyday, but it doesn't have to be lifting. As long as you are pushing to better yourself, do what you please.

The best part about lifting is that, if done correctly (not too often, but with effort) you won't pass two months without visible results.

Hell, society led me to believe that excercise was the most difficult thing on earth and after 3 months I already had no fat and muscles.

When in doubt, lift, and be smart about it.

My favorite is when they bookend their question saying "Please don't give me the advice to lift, I have heard it too many times, I want actual advice"

You just can't help some people. Lifting is the foundation. No lifting, no testosterone, no confidence. No self improvement. Lifting is the base upon which you build the pyramid.

People also do not realize that lifting heavy is an important component of any fat loss regimen and cutting. Why? To lose weight, you must run a calorie deficit... no other way about it. If you run a calorie deficit, don't lift and only focus on cardio, then your body is going to inevitably lose muscle as well as fat. If you lift heavy while running a calorie deficit, that sends the message to your body that you need that muscle, and thus your body preserves it. You're not going to gain much muscle while doing this--the focus is to burn fat while preserving existing muscle.

Framing this in a different light that helped me overcome my hesitation to lift:

Muscles are to women what huge perky tits, a narrow waist and a gorgeous ass are to us. When you start making gains, you will get stares, not glances, and these are super easy approach targets.

The testosterone increases are addictive AF. The increased confidence you're getting from your awesome bod plus this T surge destroys approach anxiety. You will think of great one liners upon seeing a target and you use them and the chick will love it.

And deep in your lizard brain you will feel the need to achieve your goal of drowning that pretty face of hers in your seed. And you do not question it. You are on autopilot. You naturally DNGAF.

You stop lamenting recent breakups with women and start opening new opportunities. And the opens become your focus and you constantly search for new birds down for fun and not much else.

Muscles obviously increase your overall presence in many social contexts. Bratty female coworkers who couldn't shut up if they're life depended on it, now become quiet and compliant when you start talking.

The male higher ups start respecting you in ways all your hard work hadn't yet achieved.

You get energized. Far more than any energy drink, stimulant, etc. You take risks and you get motivated.

If you truly believe yourself to be alpha, lifting is the quickest way to naturally tap into your nature that society has tried to pummel into submission. All for 30 mins at the gym. Easy.

Here's a 4chan google drives dump on various bodybuilding/weightlifting ebooks, articles ect. that is very helpful and fascinating to read for newcomers and immediate lifters. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B0Vyec-yHY6DYmNiMkg1dlZIelU

Good message, and I also hate missing a workout in the gym, but some explanation on WHY you should treat lifting like a meeting with the so-called "love of your life" would have been useful.

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yea yea liftng etc etc

I dont lift because my hands get too calloused and my boyfriends complain when I jerk them off. And it cracks my nails.

Also, I am big boned not Fat.

So how do I bang this dime that I work with? Whats the magic secret?

Thanks, hadn't heard about the benefits of lifting heavy shit before this post.

The true crime I see is seeing people pay a shit ton of money for a committed membership at a fancy gym, when they could go to a free gym (i.e. university gym) or pay less money and get the same god damn results. Most school gyms have everything you need. I used my school gym throughout undergrad and grad school, got pretty lean and got checked out a lot, and got better results than my classmates who paid money to go to a "better gym". Currently going to planet fitness and paying 10 dollars a month. Discipline and the bare minimum is all you need to better yourself. Also, the people I know who pay more don't even go consistently.

Great post, however I believe this mentality should be applied not only to lifting but also to your passions and hobbies.

Let me tell you all the truth, for I have trained on Mt. Oliftus- Chest day is the best day!

Ive been lifting for a few years now, along with running, and mild bodyweight fitness. Mostly specific muscle group training like back day chest day arm day throughout the week. I squat, ohp, and deadlift about twice a week. Ive grown to dislike the feeling of deadlifting and weighted squats, It doesnt feel right. I assume that my form is not perfect, but ive done a lot of research and think I have the right idea more or less.

I have tried doing only full body workouts ohp squats, dl. But I dont like this regime, it doesnt feel right to my body. I am too sore after workouts.

I have noticed that although my body is a lot bigger and I have gained significant muscle mass, went from 180 -210. My body doesnt feel strong, my bones are always cracking really loud, knees, shouldersx wrists, forearms. I feel heavier and slower. After I do squats , dl and ohp , I cannot fully function for a day or two.

Also my body symetry is off, left side shows much more mass.

I am considering removing the compound workouts (dl, squats, ohp) and focusing more on lifting, resistance, cardio, and bodyweight. Any suggestions or ideas ?

I don't really enjoy lifting all that much or look forward to it with anticipation. However I still do it.

I do it at home, with a squat rack, a bench, a bunch of weights and a pullup bar, because there's no way I can be arsed to drive or cycle somewhere in the cold to do something I don't enjoy.

So I minimised the displeasure as much as possible, reduced the time component, and found something to make it bearable (podcast).

Rather than posting you're not a real man and basically attacking people, it's probably more motivating to many to explain how you can make it bearable. When you say find a way, this is the way.

Lifting doesn't have to cost anything. I didn't have an extra $40 a month to commit, so I found some landscaping stones ranging from 10-30 pounds, a few cinder blocks, a couple 5 gallon buckets, two 40lb sandbags, a cast iron bar with flanges on the ends. I also had a tree branch to pull up from. The only thing I paid is $4 for the sand bags.

I've started lifting ever since I found TRP and I have loved it ever since. It's a real good hobby for me, somewhere to blow off steam and feel good.

However there have been times where I was just like FUCK this I'm not going to the gym kind of days for injuries, extreme weather, and lack of sleep. But other than that I always make time for the gym.

I remember there was a point in time where I literally walked 5 miles to get to the gym so I could workout. Make time for it.

If you really are hurt though don't lift if it is likely you can re-injure yourself. Hurt my back snowboarding and tried to deadlift before fully recovering. Didn't work out so well.

Now I'm stuck driving home during rush hour instead of at the gym for a few more days. Fuckkkk

To be honest I have never heard of a gym 40$ a month. Don't think you can find anything this expensive in my city.

Shit, this was suppose to be my rest day, now I feel the need to do a routine

Lingering injury.

One of my shoulders is currently fucked up. Ok. That just means more emphasis on squats, while I do LIGHT shoulder work (active recovery).

If your knee is fucked, time to get Jersey Shore swole in the pecs, arms and delts.

Most injuries, other than maybe a spinal fracture, offer no reason to stop lifting.

Bruh fix your fingers please. A week off from lifting is good sometimes, ever heard of strategic deconditioning? I've left the gym for a week and come back stronger and bigger cause I gave my body the time, sleep and calories it needed to repair. Just don't be an idiot and skip the gym cause it's raining or you're watching the game or w/e

For those starting to lift or those who have been for a while.

DO NOT SACRIFICE FORM FOR MORE WEIGHT.

There's no shame in lifting less weight to insure you maintain correct form throughout the entire set/sets.

If you don't wanna lift....get into BJJ. Seriously, get fit and learn how to defend yourself. Seriously, the confidence of knowing you can just snap some dudes neck if he gets out of hand is priceless.

Or like, just get money and fly off to anywhere in africa or asia manne. Better be a kingpin in africa or asia than a mere servant at home.

I just came from r all and I can't tell if this is satire or not. Not everyone likes lifting.

I legitimately had a dream the other night about being in the gym and lifting weights. The oneitis is real

Nice post. Even if you have an injury you can still go to the gym and modify your routine based on what you can do, at least in some cases. If you hurt your knee do just light bench and seated exercises, or if you hurt your shoulder do mostly legs; you get the point.

Not having time is rarely a true issue. The are plenty of two day programs that will get you big and strong.

Bodyweight exercises and programs like convict conditioning work well if you truly cannot afford to go to a membership, and you can get reasonable progress with them.

Lifting really is one of those things you need to just do to understand the benefits. There's a reason the advice is so oversaturated -- the benefits are enormous.

Hell, if I gained no muscle or aesthetics at all by lifting, I'd still do it for the positive endorphins and mental clarity. It's THAT important.

Maybe I get the stick for going against the grain here but I think as importent as lifting or any physical activity is there is no holy grail to be found in the act of lifting itself. Do it, be done with it, if you like it the better.

God, yes. I pulled my hamstring yesterday morning while doing RDL (freak accident, no idea why), and my first though was "fuck, this is gonna kill my progress." I was more pissed that I couldn't finish my workout and that I have to take a week off than anything else. The pain will go away, but gains are lost. I did need an off week here soon, so I will use this week as a stretching, light cardio week and examine my baseline nutrition better.

No. There are other fitness activities besides lifting. Jeez

What are you proposing if you do injure yourself? I took this week off from lifting because of an injury and I didn't see any other options. Gains are important but I'm not going to have a second course of spinal surgery.

I think this advice applies not only to lifting and exercise, but your other goals as well. It's super easy to kick back after a long day of classes or sleep in, but it just leaves you with a nagging, "should've done x yesterday." Everyone has the same 24 hours in a day. You HAVE the time, you just need to GIVE the time to things that lead to self-improvement. Get the fuck up and go.

Brand New redpiller...Genuine question in response to the "Are you lifting" question.

Does it HAVE to be weights/specific routine/program to fulfill this requirement?

I am just starting off after YEARS of ZERO gym time. My brother suffered a SERIOUS back injury lifting and that put him out of commission for almost a year of bedrest so I am TERRIFIED of lifting.

However, I am doing bodyweight fitness (30 day fitness app) and on days where I don't have a routine per the app, I am adding cardio.

Is the situation that I need to be LIFTING or that I need to be working out? I feel I am working hard every day, but I am not "lifting" in the traditional sense of dumbbells and iron.

Is the relationship to "Iron" dependent on actual "weights" or just working out?