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lolbroxel

Posted 8y ago in Rant / Vent - Permalink - Locked - 2K Views

DISCLAIMER: I'm not the best writer around and never have been, so the formatting may be shit.

Hello, I'm a 23 yr old Army Veteran who about a year and a half ago briefly and unknowingly ended up being a "Chad" as I think you guys put it.

I was 22. Active duty, and flying through women left and right. I was perfectly content to be single, but then I met her. 5'4" 110 lbs, blonde and a C-cup. My kryptonite. We started talking, texting etc. I told her all my deepest darkest secrets, I showed her my inner demons.

After putting her through "The Gauntlet" as I called it she told me "I'd never date you." To which I honestly replied "I couldn't care less." 10 minutes later she told me she wanted to be my girlfriend.

Things were great, we dated, we fucked (this girl let me do ANYTHING to her) we had fun it was amazing. About 6 months in she told me "Hey work is picking up and we may see each other less for a few weeks." I was coming up on my unit's 2 week Field Training Exercise so I was in the same boat.

After my field training exercise I figured I'd stop by her house and surprise her for some "grown up things." Who answers the door... Her husband... Who had been away on business... For 6 months... I saw pictures that had never been up before. Pictures of them together, pictures of their wedding... She wasn't home at the time.

I could've played it off as a wrong house, but I couldn't do that to the guy. He deserved to know. I explained to him that I had no idea she was married. I showed him texts, I showed him the pictures she'd sent me, I showed him her dating website profile. I told him everything. I honestly thought I was going to get punched.

He was angry at first, but after a few minutes of just taking it in. He said "I should've seen this coming. Deep down I'm angry at you, but I know it's not your fault. And you're a better man than me for telling me all this. Thank you, but please leave."

I left. 2 hours later I get a text from the girl. "Why did you come to my house? Why didn't you text me first? My husband's gonna kill me!"

My response? "Not my problem."

They got divorced and her ex-husband and I keep in touch. He has since given up on women alltogether.

TL;DR I unknowingly dated and fucked a married woman for 6 months while her husband was on business. I felt guilty and told him everything. He's now given up on women.

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johnnight 8y ago

Lack of honor, nothing unusual.

For men honor means keeping the word, not breaking the rules, not backstabbing teammates and exposing transgressors. That's why OP did it and that is why the other guy understood.

For women keeping honor means just not being exposed as a slut, nothing more. That is why she could not understand what the men did. It's outside of her frame of understanding.

[deleted] 8y ago

Once again proving that it's only men who can keep women from cheating. If monogamy is ever coming back, it's because men like you dug it out of the cold earth.

lolbroxel 8y ago

I doubt I stopped her plan. She's probably found another beta provider to drain while she rides the carousel.

fundude1 8y ago

I don't see how this is your fault though.

Nothing wrong here. Very good that you told him about the slut.

He would have no right to be mad at you over this. She is the bad person here.

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unassumingusername7 8y ago

He didn't act on his anger. That's all you can really ask for.

beginner_ 8y ago

Very good that you told him about the slut.

I don't really disagree with you. Just wanted to point out there is a serious danger in getting involved in such drama. You never know if he or she is a psycho and some harm will come to you from interfering. Often "doing the good, moral" thing will only lead to trouble you could have easily avoided. Especially because you are not wrong and have no moral obligation.

MysterManager 8y ago

I've always looked at it as a you can't blame a dog for eating steak scenario. If I leave a steak on a table no matter how loyal a dog is to me or how I stress to it not to he is going to eat the steak, after all he is a dog. If I am married to a woman the steak is her pussy, if she puts it out there guaranteed some man with get a piece. Who's fault is it though? The dog who ate the steak or the butcher that set it on the corner of passing dogs?

lolbroxel 8y ago

I don't blame myself for anything that happened. I mean if I had really taken a look at everything I could've seen it.

A 26 year old public school teacher driving a BMW and living in a $450,000 house, wearing designer clothes and all. It's obvious now, but then I didn't notice.

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redpillersinparis 8y ago

Umm how does a public school teacher make so much money?

ColonelMitchell 8y ago

Better you do it to her than someone else

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StoicBeard 8y ago

Those actions I get more satisfaction than deadlifting 400lbs. Good job sir.

pwnerofnoob 8y ago

And she still needed more. Never satisfied.

tallwheel 8y ago

Of course she wasn't. She only had her beta bucks. The absence of alpha fucks left a hole that could only be filled by a chad.

pwnerofnoob 8y ago

And to think, i can fill that void with the seven dollar chinese buffet...

[deleted] 8y ago

good move dude. He shouldn't give up on women all together, but remember that AWALT. Bring him here.

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charlesbukowksi 8y ago

Why shouldn't he give up on women? If you can only relate to women at a physical level, and you have higher aspirations than physically pleasuring yourself, why would you pursue women?

Edit: Obviously if their father has lands you'd like to acquire.

[deleted] 8y ago

this is anger phase bullshit. Women can and do enrich your life, as long as you maintain a healthy relationship with them.

charlesbukowksi 8y ago

You're making far too many assumptions about who and what I am.

lolbroxel 8y ago

I've tried to bring him here, but for the time being he just wants to focus on himself and his career. And I can't blame him for that. Maybe with a bit more time he'll get back into the game.

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but for the time being he just wants to focus on himself and his career

that's already as RP as it needs to be. In fact most of my friends who are the most RP have never been here. You learn this stuff from interactions with people and women naturally. The more interactions with women, the more RP you become. The reverse is also true, so I would expect most people on this subreddit to be men who had little experience with women.

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Heisenberg2308 8y ago

Isn't this what you guys call monk mode? He's more RP than he thinks

SteelChicken 8y ago

Monk mode is very valuable, especially after significant "life-changing" events.

stonepimpletilists 8y ago

That is RP, to a T

He's already here

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Trpidation 8y ago

I would even send him this post. If he sees the amount of support we give people in his situation (considering most of us have been through the same thing in one way or another), and specifically to his story, I wonder if he would be more open to it.

Also, I gotta commend you on being straight up with him like that. It takes major balls and is 110% respectable. I like to think I'd do the exact same thing in that situation. I wish the guy my ex cheated with had done this.

Out of curiosity, were you already RP at the time of this whole thing happening?

lolbroxel 8y ago

I don't think he'd want all of the details... He later told me his ex-wife refused to do anything with him other than missionary and that she thought blowjobs were "disgusting"... As stated earlier, she let me do ANYTHING and everything to her. She wanted me to play out rape fantasies with her, choke her, you name it.

SkorchZang 8y ago

This behavior is so cookie-cutter typical for women that after a while you can't even get all that angry, you just laugh. Bitches are hilariously deceitful.

Seeing it happen over and over, both from the perspective of being the cheated beta male and in the next breath, the clueless Chad in a woman's scheme, you realize a valuable thing - why swear off women or beat yourself up, if it was never personal in the first place? They do this to everybody, it's the female modus operandi.

Trpidation 8y ago

Ahhh good point, fair enough.

voomer53 8y ago

What did you think she was teaching?

lolbroxel 8y ago

Man I was a 22 year old soldier who was getting his dick sucked regularly by a gorgeous girl.

I didn't ask questions.

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vengefully_yours 8y ago

Been there done that, I never gave a fuck if she had a Bf or husband as long as she wanted my cock. The real don't ask don't tell of military life is if she has someone, because most often they do. Sluts around military bases are all cheating, expect it to be like that and be surprised when they're not.

Dark-Ulfberht 8y ago

Dude, no one can blame you on this one.

Dependas be slutting it up.

arnieschwarz 8y ago

And this slut is teaching young children. Imagine the consequences....

feminazis_stalk_me 8y ago

She's a woman. There are no consequences, remember? It's never her fault.

as_above_so_below 8y ago

Her husband didn't give her enough attention...

While he had her sat up in a BMW, 450k house, probably access to all his funds and then took half in the divorce.

Mightyskunk 8y ago

I've had a lot of friends tell me that school teachers are the sluttiest girls they've ever dated.

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user_none 8y ago

Can confirm. I've dated a handful of teachers, and while they've all been very pleasant, they're sexual monsters. I fucking love teachers.

LateralThinkerer 8y ago

Can also confirm with a scattering of teachers over the US. They're kinky-assed freaks.

I love fucking teachers.

monsieurhire2 8y ago

"'Why did you come to my house? Why didn't you text me first? My husband's gonna kill me!"

My response? 'Not my problem.'"

Now that's a fucking hamster right there. That has to be the biggest one I've ever seen on here. She implies that it's YOUR fault that she got caught out cheating on a husband you didn't even know existed because she never told you, as well as cheating on you, but somehow, YOU created the situation.

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Squeezymypenisy 8y ago

I got it as similar. It seemed like she was wondering why he would come to her house if he wanted another good fuck. That he loved her pussy so much that he would never tell her husband.

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HumanSockPuppet 8y ago

The hamster serves the feels. The feels must be protected at all costs. Shifting blame protects the feels, so she blames someone else. Never mind how stupid or insane it makes her sound. She gets no feels from appearing smart or rational.

Gawernator 8y ago

Exactly! It's just insane.

Wtfisthisgamebtw 8y ago

"men are such pigs, they are all disgusting! I cant believe he did this to me"

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cud_chewin 8y ago

She most likely assumed this dude knew.

I agree. This is related to how many times if you ask a woman if you can do something, she'll say "No.", but if you just do it she'll happily go along. She may want it but isn't willing to admit that she does. As long as it's unspoken she'll enjoy herself, but once it's spoken about plainly, she'll have to defend her "good girl" image. Of course she's likely to presume that the man operates the same way.

So yeah, she may have figured the guy knew exactly what was going on but was playing along. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Then he shows up at her house, ruins the party, and she's all confused.

monsieurhire2 8y ago

But she never told him and hid all the pictures that had her husband in them! How was he supposed to know?

Until you have lived a long life and have a lot of experiences, it is VERY easy to be taken advantage of.

Also, it has hard for men to have a lot of sexual experience in terms of different women. Many of them just get one or two girlfriends and pork the hell out of them until death, or it falls apart. Only after multiple failed relationships would a man even have a chance of intuiting something is wrong. Remember, we're brainwashed to chase anything with a vagina and put it on a pedestal. I know SO many men who have been deceived in a variety of ways by these scheming sociopathic women.

sardinemanR 8y ago

It's not that hard if you are intelligent and observant, but most men are pretty stupid.

The average woman, when it comes to this type of stuff, is far more intelligent than a man. She naturally knows what to do and isn't bothered by random social rules, as women make up the rules as they go along in the first place.

Now granted experience certainly helps. Just like in anything. But you also don't need to put your own hand in the fire after watching the 20 guys before you get burned doing that.

feminazis_stalk_me 8y ago

This. Women bend reality to fit their narrative. This is how they can hamster their actions - by never taking blame or being at fault in their own minds.

max_peenor 8y ago

I told her all my deepest darkest secrets, I showed her my inner demons.

Why in the world you would ever do that? Don't ever do that again. You were lucky she was a horned up beast at the time. Women will fucking destroy you for doing shit like that.

techemilio 8y ago

100% truth in this statement. Never expose yourself to a woman, she will use it against you when you least expect it. Women are not your bros , they wont have your back. Women will only have your back if it means she gets what she wants

moveon4ever 8y ago

Did you tell him about TRP?

[deleted] 8y ago

you are a top bloke, worthy of respect. you deserve the red pill medal of honor.

Karmatsocheff 8y ago

Good on you for doing the right thing. I probably would have chuckled and walked away.

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nixon007 8y ago

"Bitches will be bitches as i smash in the chevy"- in the words of the late Snoop Lion

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Disillusi0n 8y ago

I was almost in this situation. New girl at work showing interest towards me but then I find out she has a fiance in the army. I'd heard about women doing this all the time but it's the first time I've seen it first hand. I just stopped talking to her. The man she supposedly loves is off in some shit hole dodging bullets and IEDs and she's trying to fuck around on him.

lolbroxel 8y ago

Enlisted servicemen actually don't make a whole lot of money. That's part of the reason women cheat on military so much.

PantsonFire1234 8y ago

You showed real character man, I'll remember this story.

razorwan 8y ago

OP you're a very good guy for letting the husband know-- I think you deserve praise for that. Lesser men would keep the dirty whore's secret and let the husband continue to suffer from a parasite he never knew of.

tedcase 8y ago

You are a good man. There should be more like you (and less like her).

Well done.

Make sure you jump at the chance to be witness in ther divorce hearing. Dont let the poor sap lose his money.

Rougepellet 8y ago

He's gone into Monk mode. I'm thinking that's a natural response for men in situations like this.

DoxasticPoo 8y ago

Good on you for being straight with him knowing full well he might take it out on you

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jaredschaffer27 8y ago

Everyone else has covered this pretty well, but I'd just like to say you are a solid fucking dude for telling the husband and then cutting her off. You could have had some wild pussy with no repercussions, but you took the high road. Honor is the ultimate masculine trait.

iateapricklypear 8y ago

Good on you man. I've been an unknowing Chad, and in the end I didn't have the guts to let the guys know. Just cowardice, or callousness, but I look back on it with shame

prodigyx 8y ago

Good on you for being a man and leveling with the husband. Good on him for holding his frame and realizing that she was the one in the wrong.

The situation sucks for both of you, but hypergamy reigns supreme. It is just how things are.

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babydocnorman 8y ago

Lesson for us all. Women require constant supervision and validation, so long distance relationships are usually doomed.

Hot young wife, probably loves male attention, no kids (I'm assuming) and plenty of time on her hands while hubby was away for 6 months. TRPers know exactly how that story will end.

OP was the right Chad at the right place at the right time in this situation. Kudos to him for letting hubby know so he had a chance to get out of the marriage before she really sunk her claws into him.

lolbroxel 8y ago

Yeah, luckily he hadn't put a baby in her yet. I'm not sure how the divorce went but at least he doesn't owe child support.

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Kill_Your_Ego 8y ago

Of course he did. He's a man.

PlanB_pedofile 8y ago

Glad to see someone with honor. Most chads would run under a rock in this situation. Though their marriage certainly is not your problem it's good that you told him. At least now he can be set on a better path.

WilsonSelf 8y ago

To this day I can not put myself in the shoes of a person who is willing to humiliate, hurt & drag the person who loves them along a trail of shards of glass & fucking dirt.

This is without a doubt the single most fucked up thing about women. When they cheat, they put you in an illusion where you are blissfully ignorant of the fact that you are at war with Chad McFucknut. In their minds, everything you now do is judged in comparison with the other guys actions. And they WILL see you as the loser. For not finding out. For not inspiring tingles. For your charms diminished effect on her emotional landscape because of years past. For your snooring. For not fucking her (as good, if you're lucky).Everything shitty she doesn't get to see him do, YOU get judged for. The fairytale effect. You're nothing but a wallet. Or something practical. Like a lamp. Or a fucking fork. To be used when needed for something practical.

A stoic exit will inspire tingles if you find out & if it's not too late by then. But fuck her.

OT; Good on you for telling him. Honor among men is the most beautiful thing to witness.

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renzy77 8y ago

In their minds, everything you now do is judged in comparison with the other guys actions. And they WILL see you as the loser. For not finding out.

Everything you say is corroborated by Michelle Langley's book Women’s Infidelity: Living In Limbo:

Some of the women resented their husbands’ lack of suspicion. . . . Although females never give males any indication that they are anything less than 100 percent faithful, [they] seem to think men are stupid for believing them. Females just think males should know that when they say “I would never cheat on you,” what they really mean is “I would never cheat on you . . . as long as you make me happy and I don’t get bored.”

It’s not uncommon for women to eventually feel less for their husbands than they would for a stranger on the street. . . . When women start being specific to men about their needs, it’s usually only to let their husbands know all the many areas in which they have failed. In other words, their husbands have already been fired; their wives are just giving them the reasons for the termination. . . . She already has another “Mr. Right” picked out or is eager to find one. She is looking for the feeling of excitement again.

“the word used by the majority of women I interviewed to describe their husbands [was] ‘pathetic.’” When the full extent of their husband’s emotional dependence upon them comes out, women are not moved or gratified; they feel contempt for what they see as weakness.

elCIDdaKid 8y ago

I understand these books are pretty expensive on Amazon. If anybody wants to "rent" a PDF formatted Women's Infidelity I and II, send me a PM. El Biblioteca de Capitan Cid is open from 12am-12pm-12am, every day.

EDIT- I also have 6 GB of fitness books and another 6 hours of video, some of it dealing with bodyweight workouts, some with SEAL/Army SF/AF PJ/MARSOC fitness, and some with mass gains and weightlifting.

NecroticFury 8y ago

which is ironic considering how pathetic they themselves are

awalt_cupcake 8y ago

Well back to the anger phase

WilsonSelf 8y ago

Interesting, I'll pick it up.

Nodeal_reddit 8y ago

Is that book worth $40? It looks interesting, but the price is way too steep.

GarrusShotFirst 8y ago

"Pathetic"..... Until he flips and murders you and the offspring.

But oh yeah, I forgot in Western Civilization there are very little REAL consequences for women cheating.

And we wonder why the social decay is all encompassing.... Gee I wonder.

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vengefully_yours 8y ago

That is exactly right, it's difficult to compete with someone new, even if you're ripped, and doing well financially. The newness is part of the alure, the shiny toy looks better because it's not available all the time. She can see the scratches and faults on the toy she has, she knows it all too well and she wants to discover the new one.

That is exactly why I no longer LTR. It's why I don't let them live with me. Familiarity breeds contempt, the new excitement wanes after a while and she starts looking for the new exciting toy. That is how I've fucked so many of Chad's girls. I'll never trust a girl to have honor or loyalty, even my daughters don't have it. They simply aren't wired that way.

WilsonSelf 8y ago

Right on the money. I'm actually pro-LTR and yet I have complete understanding for men who choose to opt out & stay out. It's a fucking warzone. I just don't get the same kind of intellectual stimulation and excitement from ONS' or plates. LTR's feed you the pill and test your abilities on hardmode. It is also the place where I get my theories (and others) tried out and confirmed.

It's easy being BB, it's easy being AF. It's hard as fuck to maintain AB.

vengefully_yours 8y ago

I get my intellectual stimulus from what I do every day, don't need girls to get it. They're fun to have around sometimes.

foldpak111 8y ago

It's more fun to focus of fitness, finance, and male friends anyway.

vengefully_yours 8y ago

I focus on what I want to do, be it buildingmy shop, cars, or playing with my dogs. Come to think of it is been so busy they're a bit starved for attention. It's dog time.

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Chris Rock: "Men lie more often, but with smaller lies. Women lie much less, but the lies are massive."

NecroticFury 8y ago

except women lie more often as well as with greater intensity.

sardinemanR 8y ago

That's nonsense. Women tell big lies, small lies, constantly. They are just pathological liars. I don't think I've ever met a woman in my life who if you spoke to her an entire day could go without lying at last once.

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Some women are pathological liars. Others are not. My bitch always tells the truth. She's been caught before. She learned her lesson.

You need to learn how to train 'em brother. Otherwise you're just going to hate women and never experience love.

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antariusz 8y ago

Lolol, she learned her lesson... Don't get caught.

sardinemanR 8y ago

Looks like AWALT fallacy and blue pill "shaming" in one post ("you hate women!!").

Pretty weak, "bro."

[deleted] 8y ago

Didn't realize you're MGTOW.

Can I ask you an honest question: Do you desire to experience man to woman romance? Do you believe it is possible?

foldpak111 8y ago

"those girls are liars, but MIIINE would never lie" because his girl is different, special, unique. She's just not like that (as she currently sucks my dick behind your back).

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Believe me, she's not that special. But she's definitely less of a liar than other girls I've dated. Or do you think that all girls are equally massive liars?

dudeassreal 8y ago

once a liar, always a liar. Your girlfriend didn't learn a lesson. She just got smart.

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People can't change for the better? I improved her diet, her physique, her beauty. She's not a special little unicorn, this is true. But I honestly believe a woman is like a good pet. If you train them correctly, they will take great joy in serving you.

Rollo Tomassi from TheRationalMale is happily married to a feminine woman.

sardinemanR 8y ago

lol this is the chameleon effect and is very well known. Women are biologically programmed to repeat back whatever the man's beliefs and desires are.

If she branch swings to another dude or you fail to hold frame or she just gets bored or whatever other reason, she will adopt the new man's thoughts and beliefs and tell him she is what he wants her to be.

Most women are not so stupid that an average dude can see through their lies, especially when he's convinced himself she doesn't lie.

GarrusShotFirst 8y ago

Never feel bad for a marriage and the failings of another man. It happens. Women are emotional vampires. Just use them for their holes.

Now that you know you're of high sexual prowess your eyes are opened and hopefully your mentally tough enough and not stupid to never fall for the Long Con, AKA Marriage/LTR.

Good luck. You have done well.

switters15330 8y ago

Nice job. I hope you at least sent him the link to our happy institution of higher learning, when it was all said and done.

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lesleysnipes 8y ago

Fucking retarded post.

How are you Chad? You're a fucking dumbass to date someone for 6 months and not know she's married.

Erm hey guys I'm new here but I'm in the army and have had sex a couple times so I'm a Chad here's my shitty story.

If you were truly alpha you wouldn't have got played for 6 months hahaha. I know you.

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invader_red 8y ago

Good on you for telling him. Seriously.

dudeassreal 8y ago

Well done on telling him, that takes a lot of balls.

DrMrPepper 8y ago

I give you props for telling the guy. Very few guys would have done that. A mark of a man.

Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 8y ago

Lots of guys are unknowing "Chads" and never figure it out. If a woman wants to lead on 20 guys at once, and they all think they're the only one, it's not like it's hard. Especially if you're generally trusting and have no reason to doubt her.

You did good in the heat of the moment. Seconds after figuring out what was going on, face to face with the man whose wife you'd been screwing, you quickly did the upstanding thing. Her husband deserved to know, and you took responsibility for your part, even though you were misled.

And, of course, on cue, at the end of it all, the girl blames you for ratting her out. Like, how could you? What a betrayal!

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I personally think he shouldn't have told her husband. Sexual strategy is amoral. AF/BB is the female strategy. Can't hate her or judge her for it because AWALT.

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Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 8y ago

Telling or not telling is a moral decision. It's not really a red pill thing.

Sexual strategy doesn't necessarily mean that bad behavior is acceptable/inevitable. It's a cost benefit analysis. Whether the risks and consequences of being found out do or don't outweigh the rewards of capitalizing on a strategy. The woman took a risk and it didn't work out well this time. Risk management is part of sexual strategy.

That's actually why we focus on improvement. It makes the consequence of fucking things up with you more costly. Risk analyses are more likely to come up in your favor that way. A woman who barely cares if you know or what you'll do is more incentivised to behave badly.

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A plate's bad behaviour towards 3rd parties is not my concern. She is a plate afterall and I can simply eliminate her if it bothers me that much. You're male hamster is on fire.

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YoungHef 8y ago

Good read. Thanks for sharing.

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aherne18 8y ago

That's exactly the reaction I always expect, both from the jilted bf/husband and so-called "friends". Telling them while unasked is a risk not worth taking (considering you can own firearms in US)...

But taking the risk is still commendable.

Ali0_o 8y ago

what a fucking whore that girl is. utter filth.

jcrpta 8y ago

"Why did you come to my house? Why didn't you text me first? My husband's gonna kill me!"

Ah, so now she's cheating on her husband and she wants to make it somehow your fault.

Hamsters gonna hamst....

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You took a huge unnecessary risk in telling him. In a perfect world it would seem like the right thing to do but you were literally risking your life. He might have become raging angry and turned it on you.

If I was in his position I don't think I would want to know. I'd rather suspect and end it without knowing for sure. I certainly wouldn't want to know what the dude looks like who was plowing my wife. The images would haunt me.

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vengefully_yours 8y ago

I've known everyone my ex bitches have fucked, doesn't bother me a bit. Why? Simple, they aren't half the man I am, they can have my scraps. I had both my wives through their twenties, the time of life where they're the most attractive. I got the best they had, the guys after me get the wrinkles, sagging tits/ass, and fat post wall bitch. The only thing they had over me was they were new, in every other aspect they fall short, often by orders of magnitude simply because of the type of man who thinks poaching a 30+ wife is an accomplishment.

Unless she managed to pull a very wealthy Chad (unlikely as I am well above them in smv from the start) they are guaranteed to do worse. No man of value wants my sloppy seconds, only desperate thirsty fucks who couldn't bang her when she was 21, but can now that she is 30 something. Meanwhile I'm still improving despite the legal setbacks, my life is climbing like a Saturn V. They're in a slow motion train wreck due to profound myopia.

You want her? Take her, I'll get a newer model in a few days, along with some older models to drive like I stole them.

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lolbroxel 8y ago

If I was in his position I don't think I would want to know. I'd rather suspect and end it without knowing for sure.

Isn't TRP all about seeing the painful truth? Aren't we here to reject the beautiful lies?

Pornography_saves_li 8y ago

Yes. Not everyone here has embraced the pill like they think they have. Probably including me.

jorgander 8y ago

If I was in his position I don't think I would want to know. I'd rather suspect and end it without knowing for sure.

I understand that it's called bad news for a reason, and who wants to feel bad, but it's reality we're talking about here, not some depressing movie. Face it, deal with it, and move on. It's bad enough when someone else lies to you or omits part of a truth, but willful ignorance is just... a whole other level of stupid.

Speak for yourself; should I find that an unpleasant truth was hidden from me, it will always have worse consequences than the unpleasantness itself.

Related quote:

There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles - Muad'Dib

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Funny you should quote Paul Atreides. Didn't he choose willful ignorance and turn away from the Golden Path? Didn't Letto II come to a place of forgiveness and understanding as to why?

Ignorance is bliss. Willfully choosing delusion could be considered wise or stupid depending on the circumstance. You are the master of your reality. Everything is amoral and your choice.

Steadfastly pursuing the truth can liberate one's self. After that you may apply willful ignorance. Some things do not need to be seen. The Buddha recommended placing a sentinel before every sense perception. It can be very difficult to forget things you'd like to forget. Sometimes it's wiser to simply not put them in your head to begin with.

lolbroxel 8y ago

Well I mean I was a level 2 hand-to-hand Combat trained solder. He was a skinny desk jockey. If it had came down to it and I felt it necessary I could've easily defended myself.

foldpak111 8y ago

Just wanted to say, as a young guy that comes from a military family, thanks for doing what you're doing. I don't respect the military or government, but I have the utmost respect for servicemen.

combatmechanic 8y ago

so, you would bang his wife and then beat him down?, wow good luck with that in court...just saying

lolbroxel 8y ago

Clinch. Not beat him down. I had myself positioned to where his back was against a wall. If he tried to strike, I would've wall clinched him to defend myself.

Polorutz 8y ago

Your level 2 hand-to-hand combat body dies all the same to any handgun... just saying man, you have to be careful.

tossabily 8y ago

He was, he made a calculated risk and it turned out to be a good bet. Be careful of how much you let fear rule your decisions.

Polorutz 8y ago

No, he got lucky... there's nothing about the decision I have a problem with... if he wants to tell the dude, he can tell the dude. It's just fucking stupid to do it face to face like that where there is a possibility that Mr. Betabux is going to have a BetaSnap (tm) and go mental. If he has a gun you can die.

Not about fearing the decision but executing it so you don't put yourself at risk.

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Ignacio14 8y ago

Dude, he's a soldier. I bet he thought everything out beforehand and the guy wouldn't even had a chance to pull out his handgun in closed space.

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This wont be popular but I see no reason to high five you for telling the husband. I can see why you dumped his wife but its not your responsibility to save the dude from a marriage that you are not part of.

Most of the time you will not get a brohug. You will get blamed and alot of unnecessary drama.

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jorgander 8y ago

... but its not your responsibility to save the dude ...

I see it more as a charitable action than a responsibility, similar to how it's not my responsibility to give a homeless guy 5$, but it may still be a good thing to do.

kaspell 8y ago

I see it more as being accountable for your own actions. You help make a mess and cleaning it up doesn't make the thing worse, then you do it. It's how I try to do life in general, but i tend to like the notion of Karma. Sometimes it isn't safe or reasonable to go back and try to make things 'right-er'. Knowing that, I find it helps me to really evaluate my actions, for my own peace of mind. Then if shit goes pear shaped, I don't have to feel much in the way of guilt or regret.

In regards to this post though, it wasn't like he slept on it and went back and found the guy and came clean. He opened the door and choices were made. Well played.

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lolbroxel 8y ago

Please, that girl didn't know what unit I was in or where I was stationed. I made a point of pulling girls at least 50-75 miles away from base. I don't even think she knew my last name.

"Yeah some Army guy with the first name of XYZ is an associate to adultry. Find him and charge him."

Gawernator 8y ago

Ha! One of my old ex GF's actually called my little brother asking for my command and CO info LOL!!!! wtf

Gawernator 8y ago

I don't think you could be convicted anyways if you didn't have knowledge of the marriage

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lolbroxel 8y ago

Never underestimate the Army SPEC-4 Mafia haha.

tallwheel 8y ago

You told her all your deepest darkest secrets and showed her your inner demons, but your last name never came up?

lolbroxel 8y ago

I said I don't think she knew my last name, not that I know for sure she didn't.

I never wore my uniform around her so she didn't see my tapes, never showed her my ID. And even if she did know it, nothing came of it so I'm not concerned.

On top of that my first and last name are rather common, so I think I'd be safe regardless.

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drqxx 8y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o

Gawernator 8y ago

Is it me or is "Chad" just a new name for "Jody"?

lolbroxel 8y ago

Lol I don't think most Civi's know who "Jody" is. I didn't know that reference until I got to Basic Training.

kaspell 8y ago

Navy we always had 'Sancho'. I figure the Air Force doesn't have one, but the marines probably have a fun name for Chad

Gawernator 8y ago

I can't remember who first introduced me to Jody. I think I was in for at least a year or two before I learned about that mess. Can't recall...

But really Chad is Jody lol. I like Jody more

FatTyrtaeus 8y ago

As a Brit, can you please explain 'Jody'?

I've been in the military and I follow several U.S. Military Facebook pages (OAF, Terminal Lance, Mbest and his crew) but us Brits speak a bit differently so I don't get the meaning of it.

foldpak111 8y ago

Military- Jody

Ghetto- Jamal

College- Chad

Kill_Your_Ego 8y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_cadence#.22Jody_calls.22

aherne18 8y ago

Interesting story. I've also "dated" a married woman: she was very beautiful and absolutely shameless. She badmouthed her husband, told me they were "actually separated", admitted on multiple other "affairs". The usual stuff: including a bad character, always in shit test mode. Felt like being stuck in a toilet with her...

lolbroxel 8y ago

90% of the time the husband doesn't know they're "separated."

Kill_Your_Ego 8y ago

All three of the married girls I fucked told me that they were separated after I discovered that they were married. The one who I already knew was married had this long sob story about how they were separated and she slept in her own separate room. One of the other girls told me that she was "technically separated" and later told me that this was true because she often slept on the couch.

Of course the men didn't know that they were separated. They thought they were married. Never told any of them.

Cyralea 8y ago

She badmouthed her husband

I noticed this one too, common trend. They have some insane contempt for their betas. This one used to shit all over him as pillow talk. She was in my extended social circle. Thought it was funny, but when I actually met the dude I saw that she more or less treated him the same way to his face, in public.

Felt bad for the guy, but I wasn't about to get my hands into that mess.

rundownweather 8y ago

"but when I actually met the dude I saw that she more or less treated him the same way to his face, in public."

Ouch. This hits too close to home.

Turn_Coat 8y ago

Ah, I too did that, ended up having a relatively pleasant chat with her husband after a week or so. I don't think they divorced, but I certainly hope she realizes, at this point, that there are plenty of guys out there that will enjoy fucking her, and then equally enjoy letting her hubby know what happened.

aherne18 8y ago

I don't do that, because most cuckolds would vent their frustration on me instead of their precious whores. Why bother? If they ask me, sure I'd tell them the truth.

Girlfriends I've had also fucked other men behind my back. I don't remember being told anything by guys they fucked...

surfjihad 8y ago

Good on you for being man enough to tell the husband about his wife. If I was him Id be appreciative

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Good on you. You did him a great favour. AWALT. No wonder every guy on here will not lut a woman at the center of his life and avoids marriage. If there was a god I would say to it

"well some women look great, but they are all completely broken and fucked up inside. On top of that 70% of them are not even worth fucking. What a total failure that little experiment was. Why did you even bother?"

Women are fucking useles. Fuck them, use them for favours and servitude then fuck them off.

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Turn_Coat 8y ago

the brigades are strong with you.

[deleted] 8y ago

How did you guys originally meet?

lolbroxel 8y ago

OKCupid. This was before I'd discovered the magic of Tinder.

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hohamocha 8y ago

Hopefully you will be his RedPill mentor and can make him into a future Chad

jb_trp 8y ago

They got divorced and her ex-husband and I keep in touch. He has since given up on women altogether.

I remember breaking up with my last girlfriend before TRP. I was crushed. And then one day I was in the pub and I ran into my ex-girlfriend's previous ex-husband. He was nice to me, we talked, he bought me a beer, invited me to come work out. Now that I've swallowed TRP, everything he told me over that beer makes complete sense.

slurms_mac 8y ago

Knock off that demon talk, especially if it came from overseas. If you start opening up about the "feels" that came from deployment, she'll put you on the same level as the "homeless vet" begging for cash, or any guy in a "crazy vet" story.

Lots of guys lose frame after they come home/discharged, and it drives away a lot of people. If you do need help, go to the Vets Center.

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Gawernator 8y ago

That's crazy man. YOU WERE JODY!!!! lol.

Hopefully your friendship with the guy can help ease him out of that negativity and he can find some emotional healing

stevehokie 8y ago

Hahahah. But instead of "Jody got your girl and gone..." Its more like "Jody found out your girl was fucking around on you behind your back, then made an honest disclosure to you about her whorish behavior for the past six months." That doesn't fit into a marching cadence as well though...

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w4rtortle 8y ago

Can someone explain to me what Chad means, i'ts not in the glossary of terms.

DalekJay 8y ago

the Avatar of Redpill, mostly unachievable awereness of the Red Pill, we all get some parts of what her is.

[deleted] 8y ago

you must be a good looking mother fucker! haha

razorwan 8y ago

The saddest part is that the husband still got the shit end of the stick; that is, he was probably divorce raped.

Regnuvium 8y ago

Fuck man I think I'm in a similar boat as you.

lolbroxel 8y ago

Seeing some similar red flags?

Regnuvium 8y ago

Well they were more past events so I guess I'll never know, but yeah there were a lot of red flags like you describe, I just never questioned things like that back then. There were a few women who told me their husbands were okay with it too when I did realize, which I just found strange.

suddenlytrp 8y ago

I've only known one who was. And he was into the, "watching some guy do my wife in a creepy way," cuckold thing. To each their own, I guess.

PlanB_pedofile 8y ago

Hahahaja.... no husband is okay with it, unless he's a total beta cuckold.

lolbroxel 8y ago

Word of advice, the husband is never "okay with it." Even if they're in an "open marriage" chances are he's now just getting no action from his wife or other women but he went along with it for fear of her fully leaving him. I saw this a lot in my Army days.

A guy in my unit was a beta provider married to a woman who out of the blue cut 25 lbs, got fit as hell then brought up the open marriage topic. He agreed. For 5 months she just wantonly fucked any alpha she saw while he sat back saying "Yeah I'm totally cool with this, we made this decision together."

BraisedShortribs 8y ago

Had a friend a while back ago have his girl push through an open relationship. He said OK, why not.

Cut to about 6 months later, he had started going to the gym and was fucking girls left and right, and she could barely pull the fat guys from clubs. She wanted to renegotiate the open relationship at that point, because she realized it wasn't at all what she had envisioned.

He said fine, we're done. It's like a modern fairy tale..

login_for_no_atheism 8y ago

That's fucking horrifying. I learn what NOT to be on the red pill every day

Turn_Coat 8y ago

I know one guy who is "okay with it" and actually is. Why, I haven't the faintest idea, they have a screwed up relationship and she's stated on multiple occasions "I'm done with that sort of thing" before doing it again a month or two later.

Maybe she just needs constant validation, she's not even very attractive.

vengefully_yours 8y ago

In the open relationships I've had, I always got more pussy than they got strange dick, and I continued to fuck them. That is exceedingly rare though, especially if the man is fat, weak, and has no game.