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"Could you pass me those tissues babe?"

"There you go"

"Thanks babe. You're an angel."

[Drinks in our hands, glassed raised]

"Cheers!"

[The rest is history, saved for a different Field Report post]

This was my conversation with a random girl who was standing across me at the bar last weekend, while I was getting drinks for myself.

I have, in recent times, used the "babe" strategy more and more, because, for real, it works. This is true for text game too. I used "babe" at a corporate event recently, on a dame who worked in a different company and we had just introduced ourselves. Later that night, she was riding my cock.

The thing I have noticed the word "babe" or "baby" does is, it puts the man in a frame where he by default assumes power, control and dominance, and the girl in a submissive frame. "Babe", when used appropriately at the right time and the right moment, works absolutely wonders. By saying "babe" you are subconsciously implying the following things:

  • That she is your baby. Because really, women want to be treated like babies. This is what TRP has long taught us. Most women in fact, prefer to be treated like babies.
  • She subconsciously feels submissive, because you have made her your "babe". Obviously she isn't your baby, but you, being the guy with the unshakable frame, has made her your babe regardless. You took the lead and there's nothing she can do about it. She has to give in.
  • It puts you in a frame where you're on a higher pedestal than the babe
  • Using the word "babe" automatically makes you talk and act to the girl as if she is your babe, literally. It makes you sound domineering and assuming control. And it makes her feel safe, secure and easygoing, subconsciously.

Don't go around throwing "babe" just about anywhere or anytime though. You need the right confidence and frame to pull it off, so that it looks effortless. It should look like you aren't even trying. It should come out like its your second nature. It should sound like you just assumed that she is your babe, and she can do nothing about it, she has to submit. She has no choice.

In text game, I have been able to pull out more and more phone numbers, and fix more and more first dates just because I started using "babe" more frequently in my vocabulary. Don't just throw around the b word everywhere, it should be used at the right moment, or it can at times ruin the mood.

Here is an example of using "babe" in text game. Say you just started a text conversation with a girl who just matched with on Tinder or Bumble. You're talking normally, flirting, etc. At this point, you haven't used "babe". She texts you, "Whats the story behind your picture with the horse?" Just a normal question, that you can answer normally. But you choose the other route. You say, "Just another day at the office babe". Here, you have subtly just used "babe" without it seeming like a big deal. She won't object, she will actually like it. Now, the frame of future texts change, because you called her babe and just by replying to you she has acknowledged that she is your babe.

I am aware that "babe" is a term used frequently by men who have managed to plate or LTR the bitch. But I am not talking about plates and LTRs. I am talking about the girls who you are trying to woo, girls who you are gaming on, the girl who you're gonna approach. Use "babe" as soon as you possibly can, and watch it accelerate your journey to your ulterior motive, i.e., getting into the babe's panties.

Sure, you might find the odd girl who will immediately retaliate with things like "I am not your babe", "Don't call me that, asshole!" This is the situation YOU WANT to put yourself in. She is shit-testing you and powerful men look at that as a challenge and jump in to slay the challenge. She is shit-testing you because she sees you as a worthy being. Mr. Blue Pill Billy would be shut down by a retaliation like that, even start apologising (old me), but I personally prefer to be put in such a spot because that opens up so many possibilities for push-pull and flirting. So it is a win-win situation.

[-] Kurush559 344 Points about a year ago

Disclaimer: like the rest of game, this works if she sees you as high value, and doesn't if not. You MUST be attractive and socially dominant to pull this off

[-] ChrimsonChin988 105 Points about a year ago

Exactly lol. I'll explain why this post is stupid and misleading...

It's like a rich/handsome/jacked/charistmatic guy saying 'dude you must get this new rolex, I've been wearing it everywhere recently and I'm getting laid all the time. They make the fallacy to attribute all that success to their new little 'gimmick' while in reality it's completely trivial...

[-] TimeBombCanarie 40 Points about a year ago

Yeah, this post seems kinda dumb. Girls are attracted to confidence and not giving a fuck, they're not finding themselves deeply attracted to using the word - any schmuck can call a woman on the street "babe".

People are getting the wrong advice out of this. The correct advice is not to give a fuck about trivial things like what you call a girl, to just talk to her and demonstrate your own value and confidence, instead of worrying about what term of endearment you use.

[-] Cheddar_Curtain 13 Points about a year ago

I call a lot of women dork. It's a slight neg but not try hard, and it isn't personal like calling them horse face or whatever. But it still gets them thinking a bit like 'why am I a dork?'

I've used the 'treat them like a bratty little sister' routine to great effect with women who are full of themselves. Most men just worship them, I tell them to go back to their home on whore island.

I'll pass on the 'babe' bit, it sounds corny and contrived. It's also putting them on a pedestal, which you never want. You can call her babe when you're engaged, not before.

[-] aweful_aweful 1 Point about a year ago

Great post. Fellas this guy gets it.

[-] silent_dominant 2 Points about a year ago

This is 80% of trp, unfortunately.

The best advice here is "increase your SMV"

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[-] Rubacund 56 Points about a year ago

Agreed, I've had calling women "babe" or "hun" backfire on me in certain situations. (This works best if she is already showing signs she is interested in you).

[-] Kurush559 48 Points about a year ago

The good thing about having high smv is that even if they don't like it, it won't backfire

[-] nross368 9 Points about a year ago

Note to self: don't call mom babe

[-] mental_models 6 Points about a year ago

lol don't do it at work

[-] _thechinaman_ 19 Points about a year ago

No bro don't you understand the words sheer benefits? /s

[-] Vikingcel 9 Points about a year ago

If you're attractive, socially dominant and she sees you as high value, you don't need game.

Isn't game the means to be socially dominant and perceived as attractive and high value?

[-] Gnosiis_ 7 Points about a year ago

Underrated comment. In all the situations where I really do well with women I've never had to try too hard. The SMV and swagger is almost always good enough by itself. I feel that game is used to maintain or even improve upon that initial attraction. But SMV is everything.

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[-] tchower 0 Points about a year ago

I always thought the point of game was that attraction is perceptual in a woman’s mind and woman shit test men for strength and fitness, so game is supposed to improve this. I guy who’s an SMV 10 can fuck it up with a woman that’s an SMV 8 or 9 by messing up the perception she had of the guy. The mythic Chad that slays pussy everywhere he goes on every girl he meets left and right is something some fag on the Internet made up listening to Ricky Martin or something.

[-] empatheticapathetic 4 Points about a year ago

Good thing that different women value you differently. Pick the ones where it seems like it would work and try it.

[-] RemoteNetwork 2 Points about a year ago

man you should get a PhD in psychology, pretty spot on observation. No kidding, really? If you have the need to point this one out it just shows the level of intelligence in this thread.

[-] Kurush559 1 Point about a year ago

Some guys don't understand this

[-] scissor_me_timbers00 2 Points about a year ago

Yeah and this is the BS of the feminist ethos of not wanting to be treated as submissives. They actually do— by high SMV men. But they think they don’t because they are surrounded by betas who they feel superior to. So they don’t want to be treated as a submissive by them.

[-] omega_dawg93 141 Points about a year ago

I've tried this... it went as follows:

"thx for your help, babe."

"uh... I'm not your babe... don't call me that."

"ok... then thanks, dude."

she stared... then just laughed. i just smiled like it didn't matter. women FAKE anger all the time... it is their default shit test when they can't reply quickly.

i still call her "dude" or "homie," or "bro" when i see her. and yes... she gave it up.

[-] redpill77 38 Points about a year ago

More often than when they fake anger they will actually get angry and fake like it was a joke when your frame doesn't cave.

[-] omega_dawg93 28 Points about a year ago

it's easy to do too.

just treat every woman like she stopped maturing at 18... bc she literally did.

and when talking to them, address them, answer them, and ignore their bullshit like a guy that's already fucked them 100x... just ready to walk-off from her.

the only way you can hurt a woman is to leave her. that's the one feeling they can't rationalize away bc you're leaving her... on her own... to fend for herself.

abandonment >>> fake anger.

[-] magx01 6 Points about a year ago

just treat every woman like she stopped maturing at 18... bc she literally did.

Too bad this isn't true physically eh boys?

[-] 1DGL 4 Points about a year ago

It’s so frustrating to know how many times I failed shit tests like this lol

[-] omega_dawg93 1 Point about a year ago

they're grown females, but really... they're just little girls that want to have fun and not worry about 'serious' shit.

do not take them seriously until they're naked.

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[-] Borsao66 113 Points about a year ago

I call her babe because I'm thinking in my head "that'll do pig, that'll do.".

[-] theunconquored 47 Points about a year ago

Underrated 90s talking pig movie reference.

[-] LokiWantsToPlay 16 Points about a year ago

Quotes like this make me feel old

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[-] magx01 -2 Point about a year ago

You do crunches and apply face masks in the morning I imagine.

[-] Bone_Coat 77 Points about a year ago

you don't plate her to call her "babe", you call her "babe" to plate her ...

- I'm impressed

[-] RPSilverfox 63 Points about a year ago

Hey babe I didn’t realize I was going so fast. Can you let me off with a warning?

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[-] MushroomTaco 39 Points about a year ago

"I am not your babe/Don't call me that, asshole!"

"Whatever you say, babe."

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[-] warlordchad 37 Points about a year ago

Sure, you might find the odd girl who will immediately retaliate with things like "I am not your babe", "Don't call me that, asshole!" This is the situation YOU WANT to put yourself in. She is shit-testing you and powerful men look at that as a challenge and jump in to slay the challenge. She is shit-testing you because she sees you as a worthy being.

Yes, definitely a shit test--I'd disqualify: "well not with an attitude like that little darlin." Now, just to be clear, if after that she shows more signs of being an angry feminazi, RUN!

[-] light-----------dark 1 Point about a year ago

run! indeed

[-] sebastianconcept 27 Points about a year ago

Geez this reminded me a girl started to call me baby first (and before sex). A bit later we had a sex marathon. I’ll pay more attention to use this as a frame installer technique.

[-] papunigga031 25 Points about a year ago

Do what you want and what fits your frame. If saying “babe” isn’t natural to you then don’t say it.

[-] CanuckinFL 22 Points about a year ago

Baby works like a charm. You can slip it in earlier, subdued, almost inaudibly , like say at the end of a sentence when you thank a server for a drink. Baby (calling them that right from the get go) is MY shit test if you will. Guys in here be like ‘what do you do if she bites back?’ Why care. It’s not an outright rejection, it makes her look peevish af, and it isolates those who will potentially enter your frame willingly from those headcases not willing to enjoy feeling feminine.

Now gents, intersperse a couple of strategic ‘yes baby’ answers to questions, with a smile, and look her in the eye.

That is used more selectively but dam does that nail them in the headlights. It is catnip to them if you’re roguishly agreeable.

-I say bail to any chick that challenges my frame dominance. I don’t tolerate shit tests much. Let them dig deep and challenge me -I respect that it’s cute but it’s not for me to tame wild horses. I let em go. To each his own if you’re willing to stay on the mound and pitch some more after she says ‘I’m not your baby’. I high step it outta there.

For me that’s how you dry my pantries and I’m the prize. Prize offered and rejected, belongs to me and I move on my way to more receptive girls end stop. No fuss.

Try it. YMMV

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[-] DramaEmperor 20 Points about a year ago

Where is the guy that tells us that calling girls “love” makes their panties drop?

[-] PM_Me_OK 29 Points about a year ago

Well if you're big muscular manly and jacked with a deep voice and you say love, im sure it will work. If you're not manly enough, it will seem like it came from fedora boy.

[-] DramaEmperor 5 Points about a year ago

If you look as you described.. well, you could be half retarded and it will still work.

But that was not the point here.

[-] vengefully_yours 1 Point about a year ago

Muscular and half tarded, yeah that work with great. Most people assume if you have muscle that you're an idiot

[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 2 Points about a year ago

Never go full retard

[-] drawden63 1 Point about a year ago

Im from the north of England and we use "love" all the time in everyday conversation. Never got me laid. I dont think......

[-] KillaJewels 16 Points about a year ago

This is a really interesting topic. I started using it frequently both in the plate/LTR dynamic and on girls I'm gaming, and it does do wonders like you said. It's a nice way to spice up your game, especially by showing sexual interest in an innocent way (plausible deniability). Good post OP.

[-] darkstar1031 13 Points about a year ago

Not gonna lie, I use various pet names for my plates, but I just absolutely detest calling a grown woman babe. I'll use princess, dollface, woman, love, if she has blue or green eyes I'll call her bright eyes, I'll even call her legs, but I just hate the taste of the word babe or baby. Makes me feel like some brosef fratboy loser.

[-] AlfredKinsey 5 Points about a year ago

Then don't use it.

Use what you can pull off.

[-] RoadToZion1119 12 Points about a year ago

You can't say the b-word that's racist.

[-] light-----------dark 6 Points about a year ago

others might call it sexist.

[-] redpill77 12 Points about a year ago

It's all about familiarity and comfort. You can do any other thing that a man would do when in a relationship if you are calibrated enough and can hold the frame. Babe is an easier one. You can feel the material of her clothes. I once drunkenly went up to a girl from behind and starting massaging her shoulders like a total creep, but she loved it and started doing it to me in the future.

A really good one is picking them up. There have been girls who had written me off, but we hugged and I lifted them up, and they became attracted.

Another one you can do if she blows you out. Don't apologize, and let her see you interact with other people. Like in a couple, you just let her blow off some frustration and you're happy when you see her return. You've given her more time to see you as high value and boy does she want a fresh start and get to talk to you.

It's all about the frame, as usual. A seduction fails when you are tripped up by her ever evolving ways in which she gets you to honestly answer the question "do you think you're better than me?" She wants you to say yes, and she works hard to verify.

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 11 Points about a year ago

I work in a "good girl" or "that's my good girl," or "Be a good girl for me," when appropriate. I tend to date/mate/plate submissive girls, so that makes them go "SPLOOSH!" in their panties with excitement.

[-] AlfredKinsey 5 Points about a year ago

Yeah, girl is another good dimuitive.

I also love subby girls and establishing them as a little child, in a sense, purrs their engines. I think it has to be done with the right tone, too. When I say it, I feel full of testosterone, power, and paternalism.

Once they get off on this, it s a good way to get them to do things for you. "Be a good girl, etc."

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[-] pdiggs1500 11 Points about a year ago

I just tried it. It didn't work

[-] magx01 3 Points about a year ago

It would have but your breath killed the moment for me.

[-] dysfunctionalbrat 11 Points about a year ago

“I’m not your asshole, don’t call me that, babe”

[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 8 Points about a year ago

'Thanks babe'

'I'm not your fucking babe'

'You're a feisty one, my dear'

'What the fuck?'

'Now, now. You're going to be on your best behaviour if this is going to work'

Proceed as normal.

[-] CokeRockOnYourClit 26 Points about a year ago

'Now, now. You're going to be on your best behaviour if this is going to work'

This is pretty autistic depending on the context

[-] AGallopingMonkey 22 Points about a year ago

The context has to be medieval re-enactment or else it’s just autistic.

[-] INNASKILLZ2K18 4 Points about a year ago

Haha, yeah I can see that when it's written.

I have a knack for saying shit that could be taken one way, and making it work.

I went to acting school when I was younger, and had a natural talent for improvisation and text.

It's all massively in attitude and tone/delivery.

This is totally playing with her bitch frame, like a little kid.

[-] 1DGL 3 Points about a year ago

It would only comes off as autistic if it seems like you actually care what she thinks.

[-] PerplexingPegasus_ 7 Points about a year ago

My personal favorite is beloved, most guys vocabulary is piss poor so hearing something flowery like that makes them laugh. This work for me at least.

[-] S5M 6 Points about a year ago

I am not your babe", "Don't call me that, asshole!" This is the situation YOU WANT to put yourself in.

How would you respond to that? I know it's an opportunity but what are some examples?

[-] 1DGL 3 Points about a year ago

Someone commented this

“I am not your asshole, don’t call me that babe”

[-] StephCurryMustard 4 Points about a year ago

Damn, this is some cringy ass bullshit.

[-] The_Red_Trooper 4 Points about a year ago

This post is stupid and bullshit. If a women doesnt find you attractive then this won't work and she may even scream rape. Most post on the red pill are starting to get stupid. That's why I dont come here as often now. If a neckbeard called a women babe then let's see what happens vs a Chad or Tyrone. Game really doesnt matter if a women finds you attractive. You cant talk your way into getting the pussy wet. Attraction is not negotiated

[-] latinasonly 4 Points about a year ago

true . however psychology (which involves talking) plays an important part in how atractive you are. if your a solid m*therfucker then that goes a long way.

[-] hownao -3 Point about a year ago

Rofl still stuck in the “looks matter” state of mind

[-] The_Red_Trooper 1 Point about a year ago

Looks do matter. Do you think guys who look like Danny devito can learn game and spin plates? Of course not. Unless you are rich and famous. If looks didn't matter then neck beards would be able to learn game and spin plates.

[-] hownao 1 Point about a year ago

Lol they can. Quit making excuses for your own life

[-] MatrixofLe3adership 4 Points about a year ago

Ha. Babe is my bread & butter, and I personally find OP's post spot on. Definitely glad I'm not one of the majority commenters who feel insecure using a totally natural nickname. It's always felt like a pretty redpill step once you've realized that all babes are the same, and are in fact children as well.

Tom Brady calls his Offensive Coordinator coach Josh McDaniels "babe". All his bro friends too. If you're alpha and masculine enough it works like a charm (on women).

[-] livear 3 Points about a year ago

Protip: it's funny as fuck to use on familiar guy friends too.

[-] RealMcGonzo 3 Points about a year ago

I feel like I am Sonny fuckin' Bono when I say Babe.

[-] RightHandWolf 9 Points about a year ago

Would that be before or after skiing face first into a tree?

[-] silent_dominant 3 Points about a year ago

I would strongly advice against using babe in any workplace related situation unless you are looking to get sexual harassment claims

[-] techmonk123 3 Points about a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXW0MTyrFvk

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[-] rosbergsessa420 3 Points about a year ago

Fuck no, thanks. It's just cringe. All of those babynames really.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

How do you respond to "I am not your babe" or "Don't call me that, asshole!"?

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[-] Unboundaries 2 Points about a year ago

If you are John Mayer, you could be like "Yo bitch" and probably accomplish the same thing.

Calling her babe should be something you do after you've already asserted your frame, so she's sees it coming, and also know that she's somehow interested in you or sending you smiles. Don't do this to some girl giving you the coldest stare.

[-] huey764 2 Points about a year ago

Is this true for “Mami” as well?

[-] iqbal002 2 Points about a year ago

More impressive shit in the comments than the post

[-] wendysNO1wcheese 2 Points about a year ago

I also use this guy's pick up line I saw on YT once. His name is Samuel Hydeberg or something. "Hey babe, go make me a sandwich." Works like a charm.

[-] strikethrough123 2 Points about a year ago

Yeah now imagine the 5’2 patchy-bearded tubby dude going around calling women babe. SMV is king.

[-] Parrotman01 2 Points about a year ago

What about "Baby girl"? I've used that every now and then.

[-] irate_killah 2 Points about a year ago

I'm pretty sure this is how you're supposed to do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnr_9V0K48

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[-] Don_Himself 1 Point about a year ago

levels to this shit would be calling her babe/bae/baby while fucking/sexting

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even shit like "ur wifey af"

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or even saying shit like "fuck i love your energy, goddamn babe, i fuckin love u lil slut"

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...and then disappearing completely for the next week while leaving all her messages on Read/Seen

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[-] DoneScannedIt 1 Point about a year ago

So, what happened with Sonny and Cher? They both sang, "I got you babe.".

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[-] Captain_Raamsley 1 Point about a year ago

I've been doing this for 4 years, except with "Hon" and "Angel face"

[-] CptnTightPants 1 Point about a year ago

You've covered the idea that you have to do this at the right place, at the right time, but how do you proceed if she is immediately put off by this approach? There is no backup plan for this.

[-] magx01 1 Point about a year ago

I'm not in the business of infantilizing my oppressors tho.

/s (sort of)

[-] jenovajunkie 0 Points about a year ago

I rarely call even my girlfriend babe, the last time I an recall using that name, was when I was talking to a friends dog, and he had just used that name and it was imbedded in my head.

[-] CallMeQuinnie 0 Points about a year ago

I personally like to start off with "girl." I'll have to start escalating to "babe" after a few times and see how it plays out.

[-] GunnarX 0 Points about a year ago

"I'm not your babe"

"Of course you're not" - said either sarcastically or not - make the call based on the situation.

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There.

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[-] rad_dynamic 3 Points about a year ago

We are not talking about person to person preferences. We are talking generally, what the preferences are for most women.

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