In my experience it also depends on the woman's current life situation. If the woman's life is in self-perceived disarray at any age, she will look for beta bucks to bring stability. The woman has to be the one who reflects on her life and says, "there's something deeply wrong with this picture" for her to develop a beta need. I live in a developing country, and a common situation here is that a lot of college-age women look for sugar daddies to date. Here's a documentary showing the phenomenon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJIpE5wT\_Ec . Some of these beta-seeking college women are objectively broke and some are actually rich kids, but the unifying factor is that they look at their own lives and think that it's largely in some sort of disarray that needs fixing. This is a blind spot in red pill literature, since it's written by authors in developed countries, where the most common situation of self-perceived disarray in women is "the wall."
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If the woman's life is in self-perceived order, she will now be available look for alpha fucks. As an example, Yum The Boss is a fat, childless stripper/pornstar approaching 40. Sounds to you like her life is a mess, right? But look at the following interview and she gives a vibe that she is genuinely fine with her life as it is. Hence when she is asked what type of man she prefers, she states mainly alpha traits (timestamped link) https://youtu.be/\_cAX1ey0d2s?t=733
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In conclusion, alpha seeking/beta seeking is triggered by more than just "the wall." A broader view is that it's triggered by self-perceived disarray in the woman's life, or lack thereof.
Blackphish88 5y ago
This is true. I dated a girl who had a very bad home life ( Her mother was fucking insane. Like, threw kitchen plates at her daughter as she ran from the house and into my jeep. Yes, I should have known then and there lol). I was the beta loverboy. We were together 3 years, never had any fights, fucked regularly. She stayed with me often. Oddly, is say things were good. Ideal. Once she felt safe and stable though? Starting spending a loooot of time around trailer park bad boys. Broke up with me to date one. She was 19.
hearse223 5y ago
If her life is in order shes looking for an alpha to bring chaos. If her life is in chaos she seeks a beta to stabilize and bring order. Simple enough.
majani 5y ago
This is the simplest way to put it, yes.
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DeGENZerate 5y ago
I don't know if you've been to the West lately, but women here are far worse than most developing countries as far as I can tell. We liberated Woman from Man and what do you know Western women unfertiled themselves and are hells entitled.
The social stress created by this when combined with western abundance breeds r-selection aka alfa sluts. So your premise is correct but not your conclusion
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Even in disarray, a woman never seeks lesser men. She only allows one to penetrate her inflated standards if she is seeking a specific benefit. This lasts until she feels she no longer needs the benefit.
Here’s a way to root out this trick: check for differences in what she looks for in a man, versus what she looks for in a relationship. Though if you’re supposed to be one of those potential men, you won’t get a straight answer if she’s already compromising her desires in order to salvage you for parts.