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You are my competition, and I am either going to be at your level or greater than you.

This is to much OP. Women lost interest quickly on dating apps so dont go into a big long convo with them. I get straight to the point with meeting.

E.g

When the say "how are you"

I reply - "Just missing a little bit of [insert name here] in my life so could be better, yourself?

After they respond just tell them "well my weekend plans now include you so make sure you keep your friday night free"

If they are busy that night they will usually suggest another night. Then tell them 'swing me your number so we can make it happen". Then bam you got a number and you got plans. Takes 4-5 messages on average to set those two up. It's really not rocket science. Just be direct

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I'm resentful. I get a match like every 50 swipes. Half of those will unmatch after what ever I open with. Only one girl has ever messaged me first. Same on Okcupid.

It's so easy for everyone else but not me, makes me so mad. I could do this stuff easily if someone would actually talk to me.

This is only an example of what a waste of time dating apps are.

What OP calls a "hook" is really just him getting their numbers which is really no investment at all from them.

Out of how many #s turn into dates? How many dates turn into lays?

If you add that up and compare it to the hours spent "gaming" them via text, you realize how much of a waste this is.

You text like you have autism.

Out of the 3 cases, was case 3 the easiest to meet because you already discussed so much on the phone?

I feel like with case 1, you'd be going in blind.

Looooooong ass text messages bruh, good convo but sometimes you gotta just read between the lines. I would’ve just said something minor to get a laugh then got straight to it, you can do all that talking in person.

Great post. It really hit home how important it is for me to become the best man I can be

Sometimes women give hilariously awful pickup lines on Bumble.

I'll say something like, "Good thing women don't need pickup lines to get laid, or the human race would die out ;)"

"Hey who says I'm trying to get laid! ;) hehe," is a typical response

It is really incredible to see the gulf of just how little they have to do to get men. Women do not need and thus do not have any game skills whatsoever. They simply are what they are and this gets them what it gets them.

I think you type too much. If it works for you great, but this is nothing like my style. Then again I don't really use dating apps.

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I love the last bit few sentences of this post. Thanks for reminding me you're my competition. I'm gonna go hit legs now.

Dude you've obviously got game. But I think you text too much, like with the dentist. She was invested almost immediately. After four texts you could've said:

"Let's do this in person over drinks. What's your phone number?"

But overall good stuff. Thanks for the advice will implement some of your tactics. Keep it up dude.

Wow. Lots of talking on here. Why not simplify it and move to texting sooner? Unless you are chad, I’d Aim to close for a date within 2-3 days.

Good examples and advice if you can reliably get matches. OP, could you post a picture of you so that we can get an idea on how much looks impact your success here?

Amateurish. Sorry. You text way too much. Unnecessary. Also counter-productive.

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When you say use professional photos, do you mean hire a professional photographer to take good pictures of you? Or do you simply mean get a nice camera to take pics with when you have a good opportunity?

Textbook romantic conquests right there, I don’t care who you are that’s how it’s done.

I'm curious - how would you rate yourself appearance-wise?

Also, nice one with the "it's 2018 you can text me first". Gives them what they want to hear (the fempowerment narrative) while at the same time escalating.

Although, like others mentioned - I usually go with shorter messages. But hey, if it works, then it works.

Gosh haven’t been here in years. Stick with Trp for a while until you actually take the red pills fellas. Thanks to this place I’ve banged 14-15 girls in the last 2 years despite having 2 ltrs mixed in. This place changed my life no doubt.

You misspelled "gauging"

you spelled "gaging" which is close to "gagging" which is not something you want to mention in your first text to a girl

Great guide man. Gotta remember to always LIFT to get them girls. Thanks for the guide!

Did you have sex with all of them? Asking for clarity.

Its easy if you are average looking.

I think that these apps are nothing but the pics. I've 2 friends with awesome pictures that get tons of laid, and it doesn't matter what they text, the girls filter is much wider than with normal guys, at least that's what I perceive. Then I've got just average/normal pics (im not fat/skinny, currently in shape) and got almost no matches or fatty/ugly girls, yet I get girls on night game/social circles. Whenever got a "normal" match, it doesn't matter what I say or not I'm discarded in the blink of an eye.
Totally discouraged and burned with these apps, as some people consider for themselves night/pubs/club gaming useless (I don't. Just figured out reading stuff like "gaming at clubs is useless" over here), I think this kind of apps disgusting and a complete waste of time unless you look very good in your pics and get considered top of 5/10% of the guys over there, which is pretty difficult knowing that the guys/girls ratio is like 10:1 or something