Hi ladies,
I don't think the RP life is for me but do agree that appearance has a huge effect in how we are treated as women. Lately after a disastrous abusive relationship I've been rethinking my fashion choices. I'm done playing games with men and want to look no nonsense, but still sexy in a subdued way. I'm nearly 28 and feeling like Forever21 and Brandy Melville aren't exactly saying "respect me". Heard this community was known for great fashion advice so here I am.
The particular hurdles I face are that I'm petite (5'3", \~115 lb) and too much of a tomboy to feel comfortable presenting myself in super feminine clothes. I have some curves but also some angles (broad shoulders, thin arms) to my body and more of an angular, longer face. So a lot of nice stuff is either too big or too "soft" to look good on me. Dresses and skirts have to be high waisted and basically fingertip length or maxi length in order to flatter my legs' shape, which means if I'm going for a modest look I have limited options. Right now the look I'm considering involves fitted button up dress shirts and long thick woollen skirts. I guess a professor or schoolteacher vibe, with the occasional military element for outdoorsy activities (combat boots, trench coat).
How do I keep this from looking frumpy and awful? I know I need to make sure the shirts are well-fitted and that the skirts accentuate my waist, but I dislike wearing high heels or anything else that squeezes my toes together. Cardigans and sweaters are always too big or too long. Shirts are always migrating out of the waistbands and making my upper half look like a balloon. In general as an intellectual I have trouble keeping myself look neat. I feel there ought to be jewelry in here somewhere but unsure where to start. I've been fond of small thick (ring size) hoops and tiny diamond studs as far as earrings go.
Any advice is welcome, especially advice about where to shop.
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sikulet 5y ago
Hi
I personally like Dorothy Perkins style. Some cleavage, show off curves but good enough that HR will not flag you for indecency. It’s fashionable, and it’s stitches doesn’t tear easily and cost wise quite reasonable.
H&M and Zara are my go to’s for dresses as well but I’d stick to sales.
If you have more budget, I’d go for Kate Spade but their recent bag designs are becoming impractical for me.
Another but definitely more conservative is Ann Klein.
For Jewelry I’m particularly fond of Kataoka brand. They don’t get as much love as Tiffany’s but their workmanship is way beyond imo. I follow their Instagram.
Sorry I’m on mobile so I’m not used to providing links.
Zegiknie 5y ago
I like www.topvintage.nl (it ships to a few countries and if it doesn't to yours, maybe some of the brands are available). It's neo vintage. Some of their models are short and look great.
I'm tall myself, so I'm sorry I don't have anything more specific than that!
LadySylwia 5y ago
Wow, those are some seriously lovely clothes! Too bad I'm neither tall nor voluptuous, lol. :) I did find a few blouses I'm fond of but I'm shy about the colors (creams and ivories often come out too yellowy or beige-y on my cool tone skin). The styles are spot on though. Linking in case someone else sees and can recommend more sources for blouses like these!
https://topvintage.net/en/vintage-retro/40s-natalie-blouse-in-cream
https://topvintage.net/en/vintage-retro/40s-beccy-blouse-in-ivory
sikulet 5y ago
Those are usual for H&M depending on the season actually
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Think of high neck tanks, tight turtlenecks, jeans with dynamic fit/cut. You can also insinuate feminist/sexiness without showing any skin by using shoes or jewelry alongside an otherwise plain outfit.
littlepearlisland 5y ago
Try on a bunch of different brands to find what fits your body. It's going to take some time. The petite department is going to be your friend. Same with a good tailor.
My mom swears by Ann Taylor petite cardigans, they fit her perfectly. (She's 5'3" 140 - 150) She prefers V Neck
Shirt Body suits are a good way to prevent this. Alternatively shirt stays are an option if wearing pants. If I'm wearing a skirt I prefer to wear spanx and tuck the shirt into them.
Solid colors in deeper tones will be a better choice than floral prints and pastel colors to help you feel feminine without being 'frilly'.
Keep a journal of your thoughts, observations and progress. (Make notes of what other women wear that you like, find celebrities with similar styles or body types, what colors work for you etc.)
Best of luck!!
LadySylwia 5y ago
Perfect. That's what I'll probably end up doing. Thank you!
merel-- 5y ago
I don't really feel confident giving you fashion advice because my body type is very different from yours but as for some little tips; keep your nails painted and start wearing watches. I love big metal watches from cluse or rosefield, it's slightly more masculine and edgy than small leather watches which I think would fit your style very well.
LadySylwia 5y ago
I'm historically squeamish about painting my nails but that's a good tip, I'll give it another shot.
The watch idea is brilliant. I'm constantly late. Honestly meant to buy one and completely forgot, so thank you.
merel-- 5y ago
Yeah, watches are such a cute accessory! And painting nails makes me feel so much more feminine, just keep practicing ????
Plastic_Straw 5y ago
Chiming in here to give Sally Hansen's Quick Dry polish a shoutout. Changed the game for me. The trick is to apply the base coat, let it dry, then apply THIN coat #1 (Wait...), and THIN coat #2 (Wait again...). Topcoat (there's a quick-dry for this, too).
LadySylwia 5y ago
Thank you. Smudged and dented polish is the worst. And their Petal Pusher color looks promising even though the name makes me think of a dead person. :P
Edit: Tried the polish tonight, forgot to get a base coat and I'm out of practice so it's streaky and looks like a kid did it. But it's a good look. Thank you again.
vanBeethovenLudwig 5y ago
Go shop at Zara and look at what the models are wearing in the catalogues.
Always search for tailored pieces with sharper lines - crisp collars and hems, don't wear any generic crew-cut cardigan from J Crew because it's shape is slovenly and too soft and makes you look fat.
Buy a nice fitting blazer with a flared hem - basically don't buy anything boxy. Something like this: https://goo.gl/images/Gns6iR NOT this: https://goo.gl/images/fiCihu
As for sweaters/cardigans, important to look at the tailoring. Nice ruffled hem or fitted hemlines can give you shape: https://goo.gl/images/nc31Wa NOT this: https://goo.gl/images/cBrfbA
Look for small details on trousers - high waisted trousers with a bow tie are popular right now: https://goo.gl/images/nPTnjN tuck in a flowy long sleeves blouse and you're set.
Tunics also work over leggings - they cover your bum and can look professional yet feminine. Again look for appropriate fit and sharper details. https://goo.gl/images/9S7BSu
Maxi skirts - look for asymmetrical hems, they can slim you down and look sophisticated. https://goo.gl/images/jvhjZS or https://goo.gl/images/jWK2Bf
LadySylwia 5y ago
Thank you so much. This is solid advice, especially the cardigan (would never have thought to try a ruffly one like that, but it will almost surely look better than a plain one) and I did not think of asymmetrical hems on the maxi skirts. I was worried about the look getting boring so this helps a lot.
Does Zara put out a physical catalog? Searched, but didn't see how to sign up for one. Their web design is a little chaotic and the closest store is hours away.
vanBeethovenLudwig 5y ago
Not sure about physical catalogue....I don't live in the US so they're literally everywhere for me. Not sure if an American can recommend some similar US brands? Zara is Spanish and more found in major US cities. You probably won't find them in a college town or more rural area, etc
Plastic_Straw 5y ago
I'm 5'5" and 110 lbs so I think I might be able to help a bit. I swear by Reformation and Poshmark. I wear a size 0 at Reformation so I always scour Poshmark in that size for Ref clothing. I've gotten some fantastic discount items. The trick with Reformation is that a lot of the clothes are sheer. They have a "free the nipple" thing that I can't and won't get behind.
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Enter black clothing or the darker colors. I always get compliments on this dress, and it's super easy. Just add some black pumps or flats to it and a solid gold hoop (not too big). It's like wearing a nightgown. I also just ordered this dress which will be super cute I think.
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On Poshmark recently I found Jimmy Choo's for $80, and they look stunning. Basically, you want to get yourself a few high quality staples that can be paired with other things. Any site (be it Nordstrom, Barney's, Revolve) can be narrowed down to what you're comfortable in. Example: Women, Skirts, Midi-Length, A Line.
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Other than the clothing, I work on my posture constantly. Look at how Meghan Markle thrusts her shoulders back and how she's often holding her hands folded in front of her at the waist/90 degrees (kind of like a Barbie). When you're getting out of a car, point your toes, too. Pretend you're a dancer. Elegance is key, and it takes constant attention. Smiling helps, too. Any more tips, just lmk! I have a pretty lengthy beauty routine, so...
Loverofcatsandwine 5y ago
I feel that it is easy to be modest and not frumpy at our size. I am about your size - 4'11" and 114 lbs. I wear either small or x-small at most places. Because I work for a conservative finance company, I have to dress business casual even on Fridays. This time of year, that usually means a sweater that is covering but slimming, slimming pants, and pointy heels. I also like to add a nice necklace and simple jewelry...this alone makes you less "frumpy". If you do simple makeup, make sure your hair is clean and have nice litte accessories you will be OK. I feel like a woman who is fit with a decent body wearing normal/covering clothes is more attractive than a much larger person revealing everything. I have a very large friend who liked to show a lot of cleavage...I dont think she does anymore after seeing a few photos of herself at a wedding. Covering up can be sexy!
ammekcuf 5y ago
What a rare sight to see someone who is also under 5ft! 4ft10 here! I agree, I like to dress conservative but no matter what, people still see mostly as cute and never "frumpy" since I'm so small. A good slim body absolutely helps and allows you to wear many different types of clothes that may look less fitting on a larger person.
LadySylwia 5y ago
Any tips for "simple" makeup that looks and feels like I'm not wearing any? Or where I could go to learn from a pro? Youtube tutorials just confuse me because everyone's skin tone and type is different. I own basics like soft charcoal mascara and clear plumping lip gloss, I just never bother to wear them because I don't have a full facial regimen.
Loverofcatsandwine 5y ago
I am NOT a makeup expert but I went to Sephora to learn how to apply makeup and it was helpful. On a busy work day, its usually CC cream and concealer, brow gel, mascara, and lip color and light blush. The biggest thing for me has been buying a high quality foundation brush to apply the CC cream and using primer.
ammekcuf 5y ago
Maxi black woollen skirts with colourful dress shirts tucked in looks nice and feminine. Uniqlo do nice fitted dress shirts. I find that any colour except black for woollen skirts might age you. Turtleneck jumpers look great with a black maxi skirt too. If you don't like heels, there are plenty of thin looking trainers that makes your legs look thinner (Nike TNs are my favourite). High heeled chunky boots are great for beginners and I don't think they squeeze my toes at all. Dangle earrings always look great. I wear gold + diamond dangle earrings everyday because they kind of suit everything I wear (and they costed me £3!) I'm short too, so crop tops are your friend because they usually end around my waist which isn't too short when you're small. Asos have a great petite section, and their variety is so varied I'm sure you'll find a nice top you'll like there that's not a simple T-SF shirt. Cropped jumpers are great! Good luck and sorry for the messy reply!
LadySylwia 5y ago
Thanks, that's definitely something I'll keep in mind.
Ah, yes! I try to keep it mock neck to avoid bulk but this is a great suggestion.
My problem especially with cropped sweaters/jumpers is that these days the style is to make them look like a box and they throw my proportions out of balance due to my shoulders already being broad. (If anyone knows where I can find cropped stuff that is more fitted, let me know...)
Thank you. I forgot they existed. Looking over their sweaters now and seeing some stuff that looks promising.
ammekcuf 5y ago
Maybe knitted leotards/bodysuits? I wear baggy trousers / flowy a skirts a lot so I need a tight top to balance it out since I'm so small and those do the trick for the winter.
LadySylwia 5y ago
Yes, good idea!! Thank you.
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pearlsandstilettos 5y ago
Off topic to the post.
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pearlsandstilettos 5y ago
I can appreciate your perspective but the question is about fashion, not an overhaul of her femininity. If we immediately critique areas that are not on the table for discussion, it will turn people off to asking for advice or listening to what we have to say.
Wolfssenger 5y ago
So be it.
LadySylwia 5y ago
You can go ahead and PM me if you like.