Hey guys,
I’ve been following this subreddit for the last 2 years or so now. Around 9-10 months ago, I was in the best shape of my life. I had a great body and a pretty face (still do). However, looking at myself now vs January makes me soo depressed. I gained 50 pounds in these last months from “living life” and going out a little too much.
https://imgur.com/a/SAuQDxD (body picture for reference)
Trying clothes today in the fitting room was a nightmare and I decided that its time to do something about this and prepare to look amazing in 7 months for summer 2019. I’ve noticed that the weight started to creep back on around April and it was just a couple of pounds then but now its gotten out of control.
One thing I noticed is that a good amount of men with a higher sexual market value hit on me or message me and have a genuine interest in taking me out and getting to know me. I live in the North NJ/NYC area and the competition here is fierce. However, nearly everyday I receive compliments from strangers on my hair, my makeup, my ass and or my fashion sense. Men tell me often that I’m a pretty and attractive girl but its not that I don’t see it, I just don’t understand why a man like that would go after a girl like me. I mean, I’m very overweight nearly obese now but I don’t look like a slob at all. Im a very well put together girl and only wear very flattering for my body (no rolls hanging out). I don’t know if it helps but I’m faking it til’ I make it, confidence wise, and im very sweet & approachable.
Im 21 and determined to loose this weight. I am way too young and pretty to let life pass me by ruin me with this weight gain. Thanks in advance for any advice and for reading this long ass post lol.
LateralThinker13 5y ago
Honestly, fat women are perceived as "easy" because of lower self esteem (low SMV). That's why they get hit on.
Also, while you're overweight, you don't look "fat" or obese. You look thick, which appeals to many men (ethincs, especially).
My greater concern is why you yo-yo 50lbs weight. That's not healthy and suggests health/psychological issues that you need to address before you go mate-hunting.
cynicalhousewife 5y ago
From my personal, real world experience people constantly heavily exaggerate about how difficult fat women have it when it comes to finding love from men. It's true that being in shape will maximize your attractiveness, and will give you more options, but being fat certainly won't condemn you. If you look around you most women and men for that matter who are fat and have always been fat have romantic relationships and end up marrying if that is what they actually want. Sometimes I think that people don't leave their houses or know many people in real life.
It's better to be in shape and since the red pill is generally about self improvement, the women here like the maximize their potential.
It's also highly important to remember that weight is controllable. Virtually no woman will be obese on 2,000 calories a day.
GettingMyShitInOrder 5y ago
Not trying to say what you wrote is wrong but offering a different perspective. Between me and my sister I am the 'hotter' one- she is at least 100lbs overweight despite being tall doesn't wear it well, we have similar face shapes... so our main divergence is in our sizes. Despite that she has always gotten more attention then me when we go out after a lot of conversations about this we finally determined what might be the reasoning. So far we think it's a few things but mostly these two:
She has a lower SMV than me so more men feel like they have a better chance. She is seen as more attainable to more men than I may be.
So far me and my sister believe it's more so number 2 because after examining things she has had a more difficult time securing a long term relationship while that has come easy for me. She tends to be a plate for guys of various SMV.
I think going based on my sisters experience being overweight is not a great game plan unless you are okay with being a plate. Being skinny has more leverage for long term commitments
cynicalhousewife 5y ago
I don't know about that. Perhaps your sister is just being too choosy. You see lots of overweight women who have always been that way who are married. Maybe she is punching above her weight. Is she open to being with an overweight man? Or a man who is not that attractive to a lot of other women because of awkwardness and poor dress sense ect? If you are overweight you will have lower SMV no doubt about it. Lower SMV men have no problem marrying and settling down with lower SMV women, the two seem to get along better and live a happier life together as well because they usually like similar things and have more in common. Your sister will probably be happier in the long run if she stops chasing these guys and settles with a man who doesn't care about living a healthy lifestyle. If not then she needs to make changes to herself.
mydogwillbeinmyheart 5y ago
I had never thought about that way.
I would have definitely thought that the thin person would get approached A LOT more.
Food for thought
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Mewster1818 5y ago
I've literally been told by men that they initially didn't talk to me because they assumed I was out of their league(and I'm really only a 7 at absolute best, but at the time a very slim 7). It sucked to be ignored more than some of my girlfriends, but it ended up being a blessing because the only men who occasionslly approached me were fairly confident and more Alpha than Beta.
For that I definitely think being in shape when most of the girls around me weren't played a key role in attracting men who were more in line with what I wanted.
merel-- 5y ago
Uhmm no? It raises your SMV, sure, but that has very little to do with being in a relationship.
Ugly and fat people get married all the time and hot women get plated all the time. Shit is a lot more nuanced than what you are saying.
GettingMyShitInOrder 5y ago
Im talking about leverage with men that have a high SMV because that seems to be the men op is interested in.
merel-- 5y ago
Figure isn't the most important thing in the world, unless you're 600lbs or something. It's the complete package guys want and some guys even love a bit more flesh.
OP is 50 lbs heavier than normal, that is something that not a lot of men care about... I've gained about 10 kilo getting into my adult body and I still get the same amount of attention from guys, not just sexual attention also guys who genuinely want a relationship. I've even been told by a few that they prefer girls who are slightly chubby because the sex is more comfortable haha.
GettingMyShitInOrder 5y ago
Look you can be what ever size you want the point is that when you are a healthy weight clothes look better, and most people feel confident. A small portion of men like overweight women, a large portion of women are overweight. Your dating pool shrinks, you might not notice it but it does. On many ask Reddit/ askmen threads the number one thing men like is a fit healthy woman.
Last thing: if a man tells you he prefers slightly chubby girls because the sex is easier, run. He is already telling you he plans to hit it and run.
Edit: look at this post over ask Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/93ug7y/what_makes_a_woman_so_physically_unattractive_to/?st=JMUNW8AV&sh=cb027f56
Almost every comment answered overweight and smoking, being overweight was listed more than smoking.
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cocovioletta 5y ago
I've lived in NYC and men here are notorious catcallers. In my experience, Latino and black men like all flavour of women, but they especially like extra curves on a women. Since you're Latina with curves and take pride in your appearance, you will have no trouble attracting men. I know RPW advocates for a certain way of life, even down to dress, but one of the great things about this place is that different types of beauty are genuinely celebrated. I honestly feel like so many RPW things don't easily apply since things are just so... liberal.
Or maybe you can stop overthinking it and just accept you're genuinely pretty? Just sayin.
Ruinedgirl22 5y ago
Where I’m from, thick/curvy women are the absolute IDEAL. The golden rule to be as thin as (healthily) possible has always kind of confused me. Men don’t tend to like women thin over here. From your picture, you look great! I’m envious lol
EDIT: I’m in an area that’s majorly Hispanic/Latino and we’re pretty much renown for liking a bit of meat on the bones. So, there’s that
merel-- 5y ago
Well, it really doesn't matter what men think because you feel uncomfortable with yourself, right?
If you want to lose the weight then do it, but most guys don't mind a little extra woman. Some men might find you more attractive how you look now. But you don't and that's the most important thing.
JJ3314 5y ago
A variety of possibilities: (1) The makeup and fashion choices are successfully fooling the men into thinking you are more attractive than you are. Makeup and fashion are very good at pulling the wool over men’s eyes in this respect, and significant numbers of men are completely unaware of this. I’m convinced there would be far fewer beta orbiters, and instragram simps if women stopped using makeup, pushup bras, high heels, etc, etc. Not that there aren’t plenty of attractive women without makeup, but the number of “gorgeous” women would drop substantially, and the window of time when a given woman could achieve this level would be shorter, without makeup.
(2) If you don’t look genuinely obese, a decent number of men don’t mind. You may just be more attractive than you think you are. While I think body positivity activists who promote morbid obesity are completely delusional, a young woman who retains an hourglass, and is pretty, can still be found attractive by a decent number of men even if she is techincally overweight. I would avoid getting complacent though—women progressively carry those extra pounds less well as they age: gravity sets in, a big gut demolishes the hourglass, etc. For overweight women there can be a fine line between “sexy” and dowdy, and age is often a determining factor.
(3) They just want to have a short term sexual relationship. Men can become genuinely smitten with a woman (strong emotions, etc) based on a combination of looks and a superficial (and often inaccurate) perception of her personality. The level of attraction a woman needs to achieve, however, to be attractive enough to have sex with a couple of times is often much lower, depending on the man, and how comfortable he is with short term sexual relationships. I’m not saying that a woman has to be beautiful for a man to want to commit long term (although the redpill reality is that this helps); some men are reasonable and don’t expect very high level beauty even in a woman they would want to commit long term to, but it’s not necessarily easy to distinguish those who just want to plate you from those who want to be with you long term.
(4) Even though I just got done saying the body positivity women are delusional, there are a small number of men who seem to genuinely fetishize very overweight women. I suspect these aren’t the guys complmenting you, however.
teeyoovee 5y ago
Health is the most attractive trait a person can have. If you eat healthy and exercise a normal amount, you will look attractive to men.
If your healthy weight happens to give you some curves, all the better for you, because that's even more attractive to most men. Women store more fat than men because they're the primary caregivers to babies and they need to be able to deprive themselves in order to feed the baby if it comes to that. Thus, men are evolved to prefer curvy women. But health overrides weight, so a healthy skinny girl beats an unhealthy curvy girl.
I'm a guy, btw, and you look good in the pic.
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