Does it work well?
Is there something you prefer over other things?
How long does it take for things to return to being good?
Specifics please, with examples if you can.
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Does it work well?
Is there something you prefer over other things?
How long does it take for things to return to being good?
Specifics please, with examples if you can.
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[deleted] 11y ago
I have to say I don't think I've ever been 'bitchy or disrespectful'. Does that mean I cower in some corner and never say 'Boo!"? Hardly! Oh, we have SO much fun bantering back and forth but even bystanders would be warmed by the words and not some 'hostile tension'. We truly are Best Friends that have so many common interests.
My 'mess ups' are my freak outs when I think I haven't done something as well as I wanted for him or otherwise. I showed up 5 mins late to a date we had and I was almost hyperventilating from being so upset. This is when his soothing calm and tone of voice just cools me right down. We've had a few (very funny) misunderstandings but we talk them right out.
At one point I was really sick and on cold meds, he had a gig in which he sang so I was worried I would give it to him if he stopped by (which he would a lot without calling first and I loved it) My auto correct turned "Gotta stay away for a bit have t virus, let you know when safe" Into something about "needing space" At this point we had been together about 3 years so needless to say he was confused and immediately called me. Considering my warm but very congested greeting of "Hey Sweetlove!" He knew right off there was nothing wrong. We laugh about it now :) Sometimes things are just a time factor of knowing the patterns of your partner and he knew such 'mind game texts' were totally out of character for me.
I think that's important to keep in mind for relationship reactions, remembering the love and respect you have to your Better Half might lessen these 'altercations' and need for 'cool downs'.
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Smash something. :(
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Bakerofpie 11y ago
It depends. Sometimes he will ignore me and leave the room or just shut me out (i.e. I didn't take care of my car like he told me to, and he refused to speak to me when we went to fix it). Other times he will tell me I'm being irrational and either to come talk to him when I'm ready to stop being bitchy, or just say something along the lines of "this is what I've decided, so suck it up and deal with it."
Probably his most common method is to make fun of me, as it usually works pretty well. As a nonspecific example, if I don't want to go to some event he has planned and I'm pouting about it or being grumpy, I'll get an "awww, is life just so hard? Do we need to get your sippy cup before we leave?" It almost always gets me to laugh and reminds me of how ridiculous I'm being, while reinforcing that he refuses to take me seriously at all or have any sort of discussion when I'm being that way.
I'm lucky in that he knows me well enough to tell the difference between being bitchy and having some sort of episode (mental health issues, unfortunately) and will do whatever needs to be done and walk away until I've collected myself. A good example of that is when I got lost coming home from work because a road was blocked due to an accident. I called him for help and started ranting and yelling (not anger directed toward him, just anger about the situation). When I walked in the front door he immediately put a Xanax and a glass of water in my hands, gave me a quick kiss on the forehead and went in the other room.
He is so patient and kind with me, without letting me walk all over him. If there is something he can legitimately do to help, NOT to just pander to me and give me what I want, he will do what I need and only that. When he does these small gestures without yelling at me I feel safe to be honest with him, and it immediately makes me feel bad for how I was acting. Basically, he is pragmatic in his approach, but never lets me draw him in and fuck up his day.
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I feel like many of the stories of RP husbands that I read involve a similar reaction... The RP wife will be out of line, and the husband responses by teasing or being sarcastic.
Sometimes, I feel like I'm really on track with RPW and the ideas in this sub... But other times I feel like I have soooo much to learn. For example, there is a tiny part of my that flares up and wants to put my foot now and say "I wouldn't tolerate that!" when I read something like this. I can just see myself reacting poorly to this kind of constructive criticism.
I just really don't like getting made fun of. I should probably figure out specifically what the root of "why I don't like getting made fun of" is... but I'm trying to figure out if I need to alter my perception of this kind of feedback and learn to accept the teasing, sarcastic-type reply as part of the RP lifestyle. Is the teasing/sarcastic response a generally followed RP husband modus operandi? Is it sometime most RPW use to check themselves and keep themselves in line? I'd love to work on developing a calmer, more graceful reaction to teasing...
Bakerofpie 11y ago
I don't feel that teasing in that way is a RP requirement at all. The only thing a RP relationship requires is that we respect our SO and allow him to lead. That's just about it. If being teased upsets you there are many other ways achieve the desired effect. I agree that you should explore why it bothers you so much, but feeling like you have to like it is only going to cause problems.
I should clarify that I come from a family that shows affection by making fun of each other. I knew my husband was accepted into the family when my dad started making fun of him as well. It is deeply ingrained in me to not associate teasing with being belittled, not taken seriously, or disrespected. My split-second gut reaction is to laugh and feel a sense of safety and companionship. If he's making fun of me it means he still likes me. That's why it works to settle things. My brain doesn't have time to keep rationalizing being grumpy before I'm giggling. It catches me off guard in a pleasant way. I'm not sure you can train yourself to have an automatic response like that, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If this is a dynamic you really want, just make sure you communicate with your SO that he needs to tread carefully in that area in the beginning.
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Thanks for your wise reply.
I'm always hesitant when I get a gut feeling about something, and I want to analyze it as appropriate to make sure it's a good reaction to follow (or improve upon if necessary). I'm thinking my aversion to this communication style probably comes from the bullying I went through in middle school; while that past event isn't something I want to unduly shape my life now, I also don't think the "teasing correction" dynamic is something my SO and I really need to introduce. Especially since, as you rightly point out, respect for the Captain can be shown in many other ways.
I definitely understand better why you and your husband have worked out this method of communication. It really helped to see the beginning, how your family incorporates playful teasing into how you all show affection. I don't think I have that ingrained reaction... But I do respond well enough to direct feedback. So that's what my SO and I do when he needs to address something. (:
Sorry, I think I kinda started thinking out-loud there!
Bakerofpie 11y ago
As long as you respond well to something your SO does that helps minimize conflict I don't know that it matters a whole lot what that something is! ;)
ddrluna 11y ago
Hehehe. I like the concept of teasing in some cases, like where the issue is clearly silly. My fiance doesn't do that with me but an old friend does that with his wife. My favourite was (in a massively exaggerated voice) "D'aaaaw, is somebody baking a batch of the frowniiiiies?"
Makes me laugh every single time.
Bakerofpie 11y ago
Hahaha, it's a great way to diffuse tension for sure!
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When I get out of line, C does a variety of things depending on what happened:
Scenario 1: I screwed up.
Freezes me out (won't talk, touch me, etc.) Most effective
Sternly tells me I screwed up Effective
(Combination of the three really makes me apologize sincerely because I get emotional if I even think he's considering dropping me over a screw up.)
Scenario 2: I'm upset over something and start being moody because of it.
Hugs me
Quiets me somehow (usually telling me to shush)
Has me take a shower (showers are very calming for me)
Spanks me (catches me off guard so I quit thinking about what bothered me)
I'm a lot better with policing myself now. It usually takes anywhere from an hour to a day or two to get better (depending on the severity of my mess up)
gabilromariz 11y ago
When we see the other stepping a bit out of line we suggest time off. The rule here is if anyone suggests time off, we have to take it.
So we take some hours way from each other and go do something else and discuss whatever we were doing before with a cool head
AbsoluteAltitude 11y ago
As a guy, I just stop giving the girl attention. I'm not a child, that shit is childish, so I ignore it like I would a toddler crying for attention. Farthest I've ever had to go is removing the girl from my vicinity, not unlike I would to punish a puppy. (I realize how bad that sounds, but I promise I don't mean it in that degrading of a way, just can't really think of another example.)
If there's a legitimate reason behind mood swings, or a poor mood, you're human, express it...but within reason, have some self control about it.
secularist42 11y ago
My wife uses dog training analogies for this all the time...if the shoe fits. :-)
sierrasecho 11y ago
I do volunteer raising/training of assistance dogs. It all comes down to ignore the bad, reward the good.
secularist42 11y ago
My wife used to train dogs as well as groom. She amazes me with her understanding of dog psychology...raising assistance/service dogs is very cool. Props...
pinkantlers 11y ago
I'd like to preface this by saying I don't depend on him to sort my moods out. I'm constantly working to check myself and be in control of how I express myself.
If I'm just being a bit daft or grumpy, he usually just says my name in a firm but humorous way, gives me 'that' look, and I either apologise or we both burst out laughing. Or he tickles me :p
If it's a bit worse and I'm upset about something and need to calm down so we can talk about it properly, he hugs me to him really close and won't let me go even if I struggle. This helps a lot.
I know if I've really done something bad, if he just goes quiet or ignores me. Then I get worried, my bad mood usually goes straight away cs I'm so busy apologising and trying to make it up to him/ talk about it with him.
He's smart though and knows me better than I know myself. He can tell the difference between me being bitchy/stroppy, and when there is something genuinely wrong. He never dismisses my feelings in the case of the latter, and does what he can to help. As I do for him.
Villaintine 11y ago
Are there any specific things you ask yourself or remind yourself when you do find yourself in a foul mood? Any actions you take?
I ask because I have a friend who loses control of herself in the face of negative emotions and tends to lash out at whomever is close by.
pinkantlers 11y ago
I usually just take a few deep breaths to calm down, or leave the room if necessary. Then I'm able to ask myself if it really matters, and if I'm being fair. I also usually try to figure out if what I'm getting upset about is actually a symptom of something else, so I can get to the root of the issue and deal with that.
How do other people react when your friend lashes out? Not reacting to that behaviour can help because then you're not feeding it.
Villaintine 11y ago
Usually others avoid her to the point it's near impossible for her to keep quality female friends.
pinkantlers 11y ago
hopefully she will start to get the hint then that her behaviour is unacceptable.
DelphineSerafine 11y ago
This is basically what my husband does, complete with tickles, hugs when needed and going quiet. We've only ever had the "go quiet" option exercised once, pretty early on in our relationship, and almost cost us the relationship (Ignoring me is pretty much a sure fire way of making me feel unloved, and my reaction to that is to leave).
But yes, he knows me better than I know myself. If I'm being bitchy/stroppy, he will come out and say it, tell me I'm being irrational and expect me to quit. At the same time, he is very good to realize if he's being unreasonable, and has no qualms in apologizing if that's the case.
ddrluna 11y ago
Usually when either one of us feels the other is being out of line (it doesn't happen often), we pretty much just say when we think the other person said something out of line.
The most recent example, I think, was when the cat was doing something really annoying (I believe it was that she was trying to force herself behind the blinds to sit at the window) and he grabbed her harder than I felt was necessary (she cried out in a sound that wasn't normal) so I told him I didn't think he should be so rough with her. He responded by saying I shouldn't tell him how to discipline his cat, that he wasn't hurting her, and that she doesn't learn if we just shoo her away. I've commented on things like this before, so he was a bit defensive about it. I'm taking behavioral psychology right now so I explained a few reasons as to why physical punishment tended to be less effective than reinforcement and he responded by belittling the science and saying it didn't apply to cats.
It was such a silly little spat but it was one of the few times where we both felt the other was out of line. What happened was we wound up taking a few moments to cool off, we explained how we felt (I showed him a line from my textbook, he told me something he learned years ago), and then afterwards essentially went back to normal.
Honestly, we don't really have a special thing he does with me. Since breaking up with my ex, I've really worked on myself to make sure I'm not being irrational or needlessly angry wherever possible. When I'm feeling abnormally irrational for any reason, I warn him beforehand and assure him I'll do my best not to let it influence the way I behave.
ashurprovides 11y ago
Positive reinforcement does work with cats. Using pain will never work for them. But that's a tangent.
I absolutely think cooling off helps. Often if I am acting disrespectful, a few minutes alone and I realize exactly HOW I'm wrong and go apologize. So if I feel like I'm about to say something stupid I go to another room for a few minutes and if it's still important, bring it up later in a calm way.
ddrluna 11y ago
That's what I thought too. He said he didn't hurt her, though, just picked her up when she knew she was in trouble. The only time I saw him get really mad/aggressive with her was one time where she was being uncharacteristically bitchy and took a swipe at me just for being too close. He just about tossed her out of the bedroom for that one (she hasn't been that way since; she's returned to her normal cuddly self. Don't know what caused her switch that day).
Either way, yeah, any time I'm angry, I generally try to distract myself and do other things for a moment to calm down (if he asks I try to avoid saying "nothing/I'm fine" and instead say "just give me a few minutes") and then talk about it after. It's best to never let anger dictate your behavior!
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Man chiming in -
I tell her what she did wrong and give her the opportunity to stop and/or apologise. That almost always works, if it doesn't then I withdraw attention to some degree until it does work.
I can't speak for her regarding whether she likes the approach but it certainly works and she's never actively complained about it.
drugdoctor87 11y ago
He goes on ignoring me and my bad mood or he teases me about being "crabby"
That being said, I'm rarely in a bad mood and when I am it is not extreme and it is very short-lived.
FleetingWish 11y ago
I honestly don't speak to him this way very often at all. When I slip he either will give me a stern look, or he'll make a joke about it. The latter happens because he knows I never intend to challenge him in any way, but sometimes I don't always phrase things in the best way possible. He knows that there's nothing wrong with my attitude, just my phrasing choices, so he'll sometimes give me a reminder in a joking way, rather than a stern way.
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mollymollykelkel 11y ago
Are you dating your dad? Sounds like your relationship is more like a parent-child relationship than a romantic partnership.
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TBS_ 11y ago
ain't that some shit
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That's some shit for sure
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[deleted] 11y ago
This side of reddit is weird.
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THIS POSTER IS NOT RPW , SHE IS A "GOREAN SLAVEGIRL" SHE DOES NOT REPRESENT ANYTHING RPW PROMOTES. WE DO NOT PROMOTE PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE.
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marymaude 11y ago
Good. If it works for her and her partner, who are we to judge? If it's something she pursued, and it's not abusive, I don't see the problem.
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[deleted] 11y ago
That seems a bit extreme even for this sub, but if it works, I guess go ahead.
berryokt 11y ago
We incorporate aspects of the red pill into our marriage but we also use domestic discipline and Gorean. I was worried about unintentionally setting a bad image of anyone else here. I speak only for myself.
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you are. please stop posting as if fake dress up gorean nerd bullshit was RPW
margerym 11y ago
Whoever reported Dana for this post- she is a mod. She is informing this poster of her overstepping. Deal with it.
berryokt 11y ago
Just to clear up confusion I would like to note that I neither downvoted or reported her comment. I thought reports have a username attached? Either way, I was trying to say that I represent only myself and my personal relationship. I don't want to bring any bad reputation to red pill women! I very much like this sub and its posters. I apologize for offending anyone. What I posted is consensual and a good technique in our lives. I only wanted to answer OPs question. My husband does not abuse nor hurt me. It is never done out of anger, it is physical discipline. I know now that red pill theory does not condone such. I did not mean to overstep.
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lol, report this
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My boyfriend and I rarely argue, and as someone else said, I try to be vigilant about regulating my own mood and behavior. However, when it comes to smaller transgressions, like leaving the cabinets open when he has reminded me not to do that, he will sometimes spank me! Mind you, this is intended to be playful, but he acts like he's legitimately upset with me, and I usually enjoy it, hehe...
eatplaycrush 11y ago
This doesn't happen too much anymore because we have successfully disciplined my mind very well. There's times where my "bitch tone" comes out, but it usually isn't towards him. Even then he just makes a sly comment like "bitch tone, much?"
The thing is that I know my place. That is the biggest thing along with dropping your emotions from what needs to be done. He doesn't coddle me and never has, never will. I don't need that and I am so glad he doesn't do that because it has made me very strong, which is exactly what he needs in a partner. This was very hard in the beginning because of course if he hugs me or whatever I would calm down faster, but it did nothing to strengthen me mentally or emotionally. I also believe because he is so emotionless with his actions through work and anything unrelated to me that it has rubbed off on me in that aspect as well and it is one of my favorite parts of me to this day. Having that sort of power over yourself shows a lot of discipline and great character.
He knows me better then I know myself. Of course if I am actually sad he will give me what I need, but only when I speak to him with respect and tell him what's going on with it being well-thought out and I already need to have a solution to the problem or I need to be prepared to ask him for a solution.
I was an emotional wreck/idiot/freak when we first met. He does everything he does for us and the way he has handled me has only influenced my life positively. Sure, it was hard at first not having someone coddle me even through bigger issues, but it has made me almost unstoppable in the terms of feelings and handling myself very well.