4y ago The Man-Hood
Relevant Blog Post: www.woujo.com/blog/2019/12/15/the-purpose-series-part-2-of-3-how-women-are-attracted-to-men-with-attractive-purposes
4y ago The Man-Hood
@OneEyeShut New-age masculinity agrees with you: Be yourself, to the max, and be 10000% authentic and committed to who you are, and that's "masculine".
Thousands of years of human history disagree with you.
Masculinity isn't some internal, self-determination thing. Masculinity is a title others bestow upon you. A boy became a man when he finally grew up and could contribute to the tribe. He'd undergo some ritual rite of passage as a sign of his entry into manhood, at which time he would then be expected to hunt, work, contribute, etc. He was no longer a boy, but a man and a part of society. And he would forever more be judged by society based on the value he contributed. If he was not useful to society, he wasn't a man. He was a boy. His very manhood depended, 100%, on the opinions others had of him and his value to others. It wasn't how committed he was to whatever personal stuff he was into. It wasn't how true to himself and how confident he was. It was his value to others.
The same is true in modern times. Your value is 100% dependent on your utility to others. You live and die by the judgments of others. Other people, not you, determine whether you have sex, have dates, get into relationships, have friends, get hired for jobs, get raises or promotions, get clients for your business - your entire life is 100% dependent on how other people judge you. And if you can't attract women, succeed at your job or at business, or otherwise contribute value -outside- of yourself, you're not a man.
If you're some expert who is completely committed to some useless topic of personal interest, like your video games or Dungeons and Dragons character, and are 100% true to yourself and authentic about it, that's not masculine. Lacking value to others and focusing on yourself is like masturbating instead of having sex.
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@CainPrice Defining the masculine by what women are attracted to is incorrect if you assume that women (nowadays) are not feminine; thus they are not in their natural state, so whatever they are attracted to does not reflect the male core. If you think modern women are feminine, then what about the rising rate of childless & single women ?
If you are 10000% real about Dungeons and Dragons and become an authority (investing time & finite ressources) in the subject, it is manly because you don't take shit (TM) from anyone regarding your obsession. @CainPrice you intrinsically associate D&D with being a fat sloppy wanker... which are two different things. Sure there is correlation, but we are talking about what is manly and not who.
Also, it is hard to commit oneself fully to a specific subject, so there is a barrier to entry, which many will not pass, thus making you seem even more "extreme" or committed to your passion. Women will simply not do this (branch swinging, need for security, lack of balls)
The example you gave above refer to famous people, I would argue that the appearance of their masculinity was projected and magnified by a lot, even mystified (Read Gandhi was a pervert: medium.com/@dalitdiva/why-it-is-time-to-dump-gandhi-b59c7399fe66) , but they would be no less men had they died without any mention in any history book.
This brings up the point of appearances; just because someone appears masculine, it does not mean that they actually are. The odyssey is a good example of the masculine ideal in antiquity and it continues to be a reflection of our manly values today. Odysseus commits to his mission even after 10 fucking years of trying.
Compare this with an MMA fighter with little conviction. One day he is a fighter, the next day he skips training.
Agreed, it is a bit of an over-simplification, and I'm not Shakespeare yet. Extreme was the most common & adequate word I found to express this. Commitment might be a better word, and the amount of commitment is equal to how masculine the man is.
Read More4y ago The Man-Hood
@OneEyeShut It's a bit of an over-simplification to say that the what/why doesn't matter, only how real/extreme/authentic/committed a guy is.
If you are 10000% real and authentic about your video game hobby and your Dungeons and Dragons character and super-extreme about it and make extreme YouTube videos about it, that's still not masculine. Women won't want to fuck you and men will laugh at you and think you're a dork, and nobody will be your friend.
Meanwhile, if you shrug and don't care about anything, as you strut about as an apathetic MMA fighter with zero personality who just won a belt and doesn't seem to give a shit about that, you're totally masculine.
4y ago The Man-Hood
@CainPrice Good question. The pattern that emerges in these personalities, is that whatever they stood for, it was EXTREME. It is not the why but the HOW. Remember this guy : www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9hize6cf68
@OneEyeShut "vetting" is a fool's errand - which is the point I wanted to make in my post. I see it as an extension of game because you will find good women you like to see over a long term doing this. By pushing her limits you find out if she's the kind you want to hookup with once or more and get to know them. Same with being open about sexual past - but I should add only let her open up with her stories AFTER you've banged at least a couple of times. It does open the door for more adventurous bedroom activities like toys, roleplays, and if she's ever thought of/had experience with threesomes.
4y ago The Hub
@RedRum Your response is much more thought out than expected. Good step-by-step guide on how to get laid. However, this is not vetting. I do the same, except the part where they start opening up, and want to share their sexual past and know mine... This is where I hush them.
What is the point, except losing respect for her ? Why would you want to know (from her nontheless, what her partner background is). As you say, water is wet, there is no reason to dive deeper. Then again, I'm not looking for LTR's.
4y ago TheRedPill
@VintageNaginta Therefore all pains felt by a woman are equal or greater to any pain felt by a man. LOL. This article talks about STD's but omits to talk about homosexuals. Sexist article. OP, please don't post links like this again.
@OneEyeShut Sidebar TRP material on game: basically you treat her like you might expect from the average woman. Tease her. Ignore any and all "I'm a good girl"-isms. Escalate physically. Be sexual with her. Be open minded about sex so that she may feel comfortable to share her juicy stories with you. Some girls are one night stands. Others may take 2-4 weeks to graduate from handjobs to PIV intercourse. Either way I haven't met a girl (yet) that we didn't hookup within 3 weeks of meeting her since learning game. Still I have found two really great women that I've more or less seen on and off over 2 years that I really enjoy seeing so it's not a quip to be overly cynical. You can find quality women doing this.
IMHO I feel that "a girl is a slut" is redundant. That's like saying "a girl is a girl". So to say a girl is a slut until properly vetted is really a long-winded conclusion to "they're all like this to some degree" and none of them are any to get worked up over. Move along to the next one. She's going the same thing. This entire process is part of the game and I equivocally consider as the vetting process.
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