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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 5d ago
I’m certainly not the first guy to point this out, but men figure out very early that picking your battles REALLY matters. ????-blocking two strange men in a bar is a fairly straightforward way to end up with a barstool bouncing off the back of your head, or even a manslaughter charge if things really go sideways.
Women rarely understand the force doctrine because they almost never face physical violence. Unlike with men, women don’t have to calculate the possibility of having to back up their words with their fists. Men always do. Sure, we make it costly, but the kind of guys who throw hands at perceived slights are unpredictable. Violence is almost entirely theoretical for women, so getting one guy to square off against two “creeps” (just normal guys shooting their shot, no doubt) doesn’t pose a hazard to them.
It begs the question, though: if they’re SIWWDNNM, why can’t THEY just tell the “creeps” to back off?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
A dear friend's liberal minded, face pierced daughter was attending college in Richmond, Virginia and she was mugged by a guy on campus. She screamed and a white knight appeared to help her and then 2 other goon friends (that word now is so different...) jumped out-of-the-bushes (as he told me in the tale) and beat the white knight up right into the hospital.
What's interesting about that tale is that his daughter didn't appear to get any red pill wisdom from the experience and change her point of view. I think she later did abandon cherished progressivism and eventually got married and pregnant, good for her, but it didn't happen after what would have been for most normal men, an epiphany.
Or as the joke goes, a conservative is a liberal that's been mugged.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4&t=10s
So, actually, I was going to post one of my chivalry queens from my backlog tomorrow but this one actually pops up in my feed so I actually decided to post it now rather than put it into the backlog and, actually, that's how there's always a mystery gallon of milk in the store that's 1 day older than the others as so many actually grab the freshest one if they see it.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
"Chivalry Queens" - I like that!
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
It's hilarious that she thinks calling not white knighting for her and her friend a "turn-off" means anything to a man or the kind of men they were never going to fuck anyways. They withheld the best and possibly only negotiation tool they had and were still expecting the same level of results!
Dudebro was right. She hadn't paid her protection fees, so it literally was not his job to do a damn thing for her up to and including fending off even less desirable suitors. Bitch literally admits she had no desire to even socialize with him until she needed him to do something for her, and has the gall to wonder why he wasn't offering enthusiastic aid.
Women would do well to realize that equality means having to prove you are worth giving a shit about - just like men have to do every day. You don't get any inherent value just for existing. If all you can do is prove yourself to be a life support system for a vagina, be prepared to be treated as such.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
I think she and her friend were interested in that guy. But their situation still isn't his problem.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Yeah either way, no pay, no play. As it should be.
A huge chunk of all this kind of BS is ironically due to too many men being willing to spot women "credit" in advance instead of making the bitches earn any effort first.
They wouldn't even have to necessarily sling pussy at him. Just not treat him like an on demand free service and convenience provider.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
My wife has a Master's degree in Chemical Engineering and reads complicated specifications that challenge me. Yet, when it comes to shopping, men, and children, she becomes utterly irrational and emotive like trying to teach my cat how to play fetch.
A cute girl like this can go on the dating apps and have literally thousands of responses in a week. She can monetize masculine attention via OnlyFans or clickbait on social media for advertising revenue. If she went pro, she could outearn an attorney.
So I respect her assessment she has natural market value. She's a "queen" in a manner of speaking but she reminds me of rich celebrities who get into trouble when they think they are royalty allowed to do as they please anywhere and shoplift in Beverly Hills, driving drunk, or throw their cell phones at waitstaff because their arugula salad was brought out without croutons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whbI55Q1KB0
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
To split hairs and pontificate, it's her youth and physical attractiveness has market value. The problem is that's attached to her and the rest of her bullshit, which rapidly negates it once taken into account - and which dudebro at the bar clearly did the math on and found her wanting with an account in arrears.
If only more men did that math upfront, it would help teach women to act a lot less entitled.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I love her attitude. It's like "can you believe how these insolent men are misbehaving by not playing the unspoken games that we expect them to play? Like...can you believe the temerity...? These men are out of control!"
We're like misbehaving pets, or mischievous toddlers
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
It sounded like maybe she was trying to start a fight between these guys... Some women enjoy watching men fight for their "courtly honor."
(If you find yourself dating a woman like that, dump her ASAP.)
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 1w ago
Lock, owmahgowwwd, can you believe this guy didn't Step Up and fulfill the covert contract we were in the middle of playing ignoring games using??? Such a massive turn-off from a position of feeling 0% turned on by him in the first place!!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Your physician called, you're due for your colonoscopy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-LArv-sEQU
The term "Valley Girl" would be lost on the younger set because it refers to the San Bernardino Valley during a brief period of time, between the 1970's to 1980's, when it was primarily comprised of working class whites inspiring such films about malls and cheap hotels for porno filming such as "Valley Girl", "Boogie Nights", "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" and last but not least, "Joysticks".
Was the "Valley Girl" real or merely a trope utterly invented by Hollywood for the rest of the USA movie going audience including the cornbelt and NorthEast?
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 1w ago
Nitpick as i was a young teen in Southern California when that song came out. It very specifically references the San Fernando Valley, though an aspect of its viral popularity was the ability of listeners to attribute it to that Valley local to themselves.
Zappa was inspired by overhearing his daughter and friends' empty vapid ramblings on about absolutely nothing. He had daughter Moon Unit sit before a microphone and just talk unscripted.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I wasn't aware it was unscripted. Astonishing.
Oh, if you haven't seen it yet, you gotta check out Joysticks. It's on youtube for free. An absolute romp. EVERYTHING about the 80's are in there. Like, EVERYTHING!
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
So I was out drinking at this local bar, just relaxing after work, and in walks this little bitch wearing a bow in her hair like she was goldilocks or something. She and her friend sit down next to me but don't say anything and just ignore me. Major turn-off! Then these other two dudes come up and start hitting on them, and the one who looks like goldilocks turns to me and says, "Please tell them to go away." Um... Sweetheart, that's NOT my JOB? I was getting some serious ick from these entitled ho's! Whatever happened to women acting like ladies when you're out??
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Yeah, that's what happens when women paint themselves as strong and independent,who can hold their own and don't need a man for anything. The gentlemen stop stepping in on their behalf, because why would anyone lend a hand to someone who insists it's not needed? And of course the "creepy dudes" will keep doing what they've always done, so time to lock in and get those guys to back off on your own, ladies.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
What's in it for me?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
My response: "Sure. Do you want to buy me a drink?"
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
You da man, PK!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I wish I was. If I had a son (and this is controversial), I'd have pumped him full of bull steroids, gotten him tall, trained in martial arts, RP, the works and when women gushed up to him he'd ask "So, what's in it for me? How rich is your dad?"
Back in the fun 90's, and Anita Hill, the word was out: Men, if you didn't get your hormones under control you'd lose your job and be homeless. If you were too "nice", women wouldn't be interested in you. This was back 30 years ago. It's not recent news. If you're a man, you had to control your urges. I chuckle when these women psychobabble "emotional intelligence". Us men have another word for it: discipline. Like someone tries to pick a fight with you and you have to take it because you don't want to go to jail or get hurt. We figured this all out before we even became teenagers.
Going to high school reunions was like viewing the aftermath of The Hunger Games. Those that came generally were not losers. Some had died or gone to prison or just didn't show up. The point being that red pill frame isn't a luxury or a vice, but rather a necessity for bare survival.
tallhandsomerichdude 1w ago
I know we are not supposed to criticise the men for any reason, but honestly "You're not worth it" was the better response here. :)
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago Stickied
The rule is "no shaming men for any reason". Your statement is fine.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Based brotha. Why would he get involved in your drama at all?
Biggest lie. Telling a woman "no" is a huge turn-on, which is why you're making videos about it.
Bangkok 1w ago
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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
LMAO I'm going to use this.
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
That's like a broke person visiting a Mercedes Benz dealership and saying, "I would never buy a Benz."
Who cares? lol
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
"I would never bid on a Mark Rothko painting auctioned at Sotheby's..."
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
You probably picked the wrong painter there for me. Rothko may be great at painting colour blends but it means nothing to me. I want something that inspires me. I would bid on lots of things at Sotheby's if I was a silly rich twit who wanted to pay their very high buyer's premium but not Rothko paintings.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
Banksy's long-held opinion is that art sales are stupid. It's why he rigged one of his paintings to self-destruct via remote control a few seconds after it was sold at auction. Unfortunately, the public self-destruct failed halfway through. The act probably increased the value of the painting for all I know, since the buyer also obtained the shredder hidden in the bottom of the frame.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
He wasn't that into you. Next!
The "creepy guys" were probably just guys she and her friend weren't into. They were not actual creeps. They weren't doing anything wrong, just trying to chat the girls up. The girls had to tell them no. It is only if they won't go away when told point blank -and rudely if they won't take polite requests- that it becomes something to ask anyone else for help with -usually just by talking to them and ignoring the guy you don't want.
Even if he didn't realise the girl who didn't go up to him and talk to him was into him and he would have fancied her, he still dodged a bullet there. She will want everything done for her that one. Her man will be her butler, driver, security guard, probably cook too. "No thanks, that is not my job"