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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
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@Typo-MAGAshiv She wants commitment from a sexy husband but ONLY if she's attracted to him. She can't control that!
I kept the crows' feet visible so you have an idea of what this unicorn needs to "apply" for.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Great find! Holy shit....
NPC070201 1mo ago
Yeah, I definitely noticed the crows feet, I thought you were just getting sloppy with your MS Paint lol.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I don’t cover up the good stuff particularly nose rings. I take pride in my ms paint covering…
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Crows Feet on the corners of the eyes and the turkey neck was enough.
Not to get philosophical, but honestly these days its like crossing the alkali flats in the burning desert sun when it comes to women who are worth the attention and resources.
I'm not a nihilist or accelerationist, but it just seems that there's this trough we haven't quite hit yet before things turn around and its getting pretty grim.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
You’re absolutely right. You are allowed to have standards/preferences. Here are a few of mine:
Did I miss anything?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Thought I'd replied already. Anyway...
must not yammer on about frivolous bullshit such as what Kim Kardashian wore to the Oscars
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
My dude.
I really don't get the "inject lips until they look like they don't belong on a human face" trend. Its so off-putting to me.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
Yeah. You gotta remember, even if she meet all these standards, you still have to find her hot. Cuz you're such a king that even being 8/10 with no makeup in the morning and big tits doesn't make her automatically worthy of you. It just means she's made it to the real checklist.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Many points on your list used to be so common decades ago, but are critically endangered now.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
She needs to STFU. I don't want to listen to her leftist anti-male BS.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
This sounds like a very reasonable list. The 8/10 and the extra large tits will narrow the pool down a bit but everything else on that list is should really be on a standard list for any man with self respect.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Yeah that was a bit over the top
HitTheRoadJill 1mo ago
I can understand not relocating for a unicorn when she has a kid. That’s just more reason for her to be alone instead of being such a choosing beggar.
A standard golf ball has a 1.7” diameter. She can line up 4 of them and call it a night.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
She can use the container they came in and save the overwhelming majority of men the trouble of having to tag the sidewalls with some really awkward thrusting in order for them to feel anything worthwhile. Any woman needing 1.3" diameter minimum to be satisfied is by definition loose as fuck. Especially when there are a plethora of women that have issue taking more than a single finger which is far smaller.
Size queens are just women confessing without realizing it, that they don't do enough kegels. The laziness doesn't stop there.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Single mom cumdumspter thinks she can make demands and have them met. It would be cute if it were not so grotesque. She forgets that even if a man meets all these standards, that man has to actually want a relationship with her past that of a booty call.
And he could easily nab some 19 year old debt free virgin with no tattoos instead of her if meets that laundry list of standards. Those 19 year old women want a man like him too lol.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Such a man doesn't actually exist anyway lmao
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
True, its something most men do either out of lack of alternatives or they actively decide to exert some basic self control over their impulses because they understandably don't want to deal with the issues that come of non-monogamy.
But women of course fail to grasp that is yet another set of civil behaviors they can inadvertently train men to not bother with.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I thought about Nietzsche's observations on virtue and "niceness" as well as the Glaucon's thought experiment on an invisible ring that has been explored in movies such as "The Invisible Man" and Lord of the Rings. Are humans only good due to weakness?
About 2 weeks ago I was riding home on the metro and one of the lower IQ urbanites jumped a turnstile right in front of two police officers. As I walked by, they were giving the guy a lecture about how foolish this was.
So my point is that even if a man drives the speed limit only because a cop car is right there (I also wave to them to be nice!) there's a virtue to that gesture to raw intelligence. My cat knows to not go on the tables when I'm home.
But... this woman like the urbanite lacks that basic cognitive ability. She's "happier" with nobody. She bears children for men she doesn't want while expecting a 'unicorn' to show up. They are rude and unfeminine and hold leftist opinions while wanting a conservative breadwinner/protector.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Monogamy isn't inherently "good" in any moral sense. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had wives and concubines, and the kings descended from them had several more of each.
Monogamy benefits children through family stability, which in turn benefits society at large. But this isn't moral, and since both sexes give up their instinctively preferred mating strategies for monogamy, both sexes need to gain things in return. The arrangement worked for several thousand years, but was upended thanks to feminism, hormonal birth control, no-fault divorce, etc. This shit arrangement we have now is all responsibility for men with no upsides, and women are incentivized and encouraged to break up families.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
We can quibble over definition of "good" or "moral" but what I think made monogamy moral and good was the idea of balance as you were alluding to above: Both sides gave up something but got more than they both put in. It's why humans are the dominant species on the planet and not cats: Our ability to support each other vs being lone predators.
Knowing someone had your back and you mattered beyond what you offered at the moment and that your past, and future, were considered helped to stabilize human society.
A good example of how hypergamy is backfiring on women is this one. She made up a laundry list no real non-unicorn man can fulfill to rationalize handling her life alone. My wife and I know many single women and they struggle often but that's their fault, isn't it? You don't want a burger unless it's gourmet so you'd rather starve? Congrats!
I accepted hypergamy: My wife is shorter and earns less than me, in exchange for a family. I put more in than my wife, IMO, but I get more out of it than if I was alone so I'm ok with it.
It's also a fundamental tenet of work: You know that your boss makes much more money from your labor than you collect but that's offset by the benefit of not running your own business (this doesn't apply to everyone here, of course.) My point being that we understand that human relationships are rarely 100% fair, but they are nonetheless productive.
In the Dicken's classic "A Christmas Carol", Scrooge comes around to realizing that money isn't everything, literally, and that human relationships mattered to him. I remember in Ghosts of Girlfriends Past, the handsome protagonist comes around to want monogamy. It's funny that it's men portrayed as the barrier to commitment when men are the ones doing nearly all of the heavy lifting.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I like this. Same with weight control. It's not that I want to be hungry sometimes, it's that I don't want to deal with the issues that come with fatness.
HitTheRoadJill 1mo ago
Those 19-year-old women would never want to date a 36-52 year old man. Debt free virgins with no tattoos date their peers.
He could still get some 25-year-old women. They’re not virgins, but they’re still better than this lazy hag.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
1/2 agreed. I met my future wife when she was 26 and I’m 10 years older. 19 is still high school mindset so there are “peer” issues. Age 21 puts women into the dating 30 year old categories.
It’s a competition to nab the age 21 to 26 women who aren’t ruined yet. As someone who lost his virginity to a 35 year old virgin I can attest that virginity isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. They usually have sexual pathologies at that point.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Lol you would be surprised. Plenty of stupid slags end the virgin part of their status by chasing a Chad or Tyrone old enough to be their fucking father and end up single moms due to it. Managing to make it to 19 first is no protection. If anything the opposite since it is usually due to protection from herself, not actual self discipline, so the moment she slips whatever leash she was on until that point (usually parents/community) is the moment she starts acting on her urges with no forethought.
One of the hardest lessons many men have to learn is that a woman can have lived the prior 99% of her life sensibly up to an arbitrary point that any of us care to set/declare, then she throws it all away in a fit of Stupid Woman Tricks.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I think most of these overgrown teenagers are endlessly looking for their fathers who "abandoned" mommy or were never around in the first place. They're desperate to have an older man tell them they're a good little girl. For the past 20 years, that has been the underlying premise of most porn. "I'll treat you so right, Daddy, that you won't leave ME again. I'm not a frigid bitch like Mommy."
infidel 1mo ago
Sounds like you haven't traveled the world enough. There are plenty of women out there that would happily date your grandfather, given chance...
HitTheRoadJill 1mo ago
They do it for visas and money. If he dated them, he’d be out of her laundry list for disregarding systemic issues.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Often true but arbitrage often works by itself such as these women finding foreign men exotic or preferable to the locals. Some older men even settle down overseas as ex pats.
Here’s why I bring this up: women who travel overseas often engage in sex tourism while men find mates. Successful career women lack the creativity to leverage their affluence to engage in dating arbitrage. There are tons of hot foreign men who would marry these aging career women if they put in basic effort.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
"If."
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
LMFAO! irony overload
No such thing in a man. Monogamy is a social construct in which both sexes give up their favored sexual strategies for the good of family formation and civilization.
And the fact that she's bragging about her "experience" (read: baggage) shows that she doesn't know what real monogamy actually is.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
She wants a rich, sexy, feminist-ally butler.
Oh, if only I measured up!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I chuckle at her "strong and independent" flex by claiming she'd rather be alone than settle. When us men use terms such as this, we have practical standards for comparison. There's even a drinking/pool game I saw on Family Guy where you ask a friend: "Would you rather be rich but ill or poor and very healthy?" and then you clarify "how rich or poor?" and see which. It requires the two choices have a similar level of liabilities/benefits.
If this woman got just 1/10th of her unicorn list, particularly the basics, she'd win the lottery particularly with her situation. To throw such a man away because she'd be "happier alone" is utter stupidity. It would be like me kicking a rich supermodel who likes to likes to cook and clean for me away because she doesn't enjoy Monty Python.
And are men, particularly those with choices, supposed to find this ambivalence, this level of entitlement, attractive? "Wow! She's a lazy princess! I want to work hard to please her!"
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
A concomitant unstated belief seems to be that men don't make any compromises or sacrifices in their relationships. This seems to exist alongside the concomitant unstated belief that men ought to be making all the compromises and sacrifices in their relationships.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
"A unicorn in a sea of jackasses" "Cry baby man stuff" "misogynistic lack of real masculinity" She really inspires you to believe that she will be understanding to her man.
Minimum 7 inches erect -"I am somewhat pre-stretched down there" Its funny how the nice tight ones are often not too deep either and often beg you to back off with the thrusting and you never get to put it all in. This one makes you wonder whether your frustration will be of another sort. How is she going to check the very precise 1.3" diameter? with verniers? Does she have a tiny diameter tape in her purse? Maybe she just has the experience to eyeball it. She did say she was experienced didn't she? Gosh that was a turn on pre stretched and experienced. Form a line boys.
But I think my favourite was "must be intelligent and understand the dynamics of Patriarchy, misogyny ... blah blah some lefty bollocks or other ... blah blah" They joke about military intelligence being an oxymoron but left wing intelligence and understanding. She wants the impossible.
If I did practise actual real magic, I would use it to be unbelievably rich, fuck lots of hot slaves that I kept eunuchs to tend to, while ruling a country, collecting priceless art and hunting big game in my spare time. I would also use it to eradicate feminism as a philanthropic gift to the world. But since neither I nor any other man has done this yet, you can be pretty sure you won't get the wizzard one. Because any man who actually had the power, even if he was a rabid communist, would still be using it to fuck hotter younger women than you.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Oh and I forgot to mention I love the "I don't want to have any more kids because it might be illegal in my state to kill them" Right, that makes sense too.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Maybe she carries a set of calipers with her to spot check suitors.Just better hope she has a steady hand lol.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
My goal is to never be near, or speak to, this kind of evil woman.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
She is a different kind of vampire, instead of blood, she sucks your soul dry along with your wallet and pride.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Love the unnecessarily complicated way of wording she wants a guy 36 to 52.
Schrödinger's attraction: her mind exists in a quantum superposition of finding you simultaneously sexy and not attractive until her feelz make up their mind. (spoiler: they never will, until it's time to take you to the cleaners)
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
1.3" in diameter? She likes the pencil dicks lol.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I thought the same.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Technically around 0.1 inches under average for diameter if wikipedia and basic math are to be believed. Either way, needing a specific size or larger (starting anywhere near average) is a tell that she is loose as fuck since normal women can even be brought to orgasm with just a finger, which is far smaller than the average male penis in several ways.
Or maybe she's had guys dump her for being too loose and she is trying (poorly) to avoid that lol. She should just do some kegels.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
How do the three of you know so much about penis diameter?! I don't even know my own!
Tag @mustangfrank1 @Overkill_Engine
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
According to the team's analysis, the average flaccid, pendulous penis is 9.16 cm (3.61 inches) in length; the average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.16 inches) long. The corresponding girth measurements are 9.31 cm (3.66 inches) for a flaccid penis and 11.66 cm (4.59 inches) for an erect one.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Lol neither have I, I just looked up the data on wikipedia and did some math.
Though I do know how much it sucks to be with a woman with a loose vagina, and I know it was her and not me due to having a sample size that sure as fuck was not just her.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I just grabbed a sewing tape measure and measured 1.3" in diameter. The thickness of a pencil.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That didn't seem right to me at all; pencils always looked to be less than half an inch thick.
From Brave search results:
Edit: holy fuck I feel like a nerd. To paraphrase Peter Gibbons:
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I just kind of eyeballed it lol.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
get thee to an eye doctor!
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I was going to write something stupid about her, but I could not even come close to the preposterous and outrageous horseshit she provided. What bothers me most about her post, is the time I wasted on her that I will never get back. I could be drinking a cold beer all this time.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Multitask, bud!
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
It is a good thing I was not drinking a beer at the time I read her BS. I might have spit it out on to my keyboard as I laughed at her fantasy wish list of her perfect man. I could not write a more foolish post if I were higher than a kite. WTF?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Hope you will enjoy aloneness as much as you claim then.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
She will blame her being single on men not seeing what a catch she was. The truth is most men will see her for what she is i.e. a self centered misandrous leftist dumb ass. No doubt she voted for Harris and thought Biden was good for another 4 years.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
She's so pathological that she likely will be happier alone. We interpret their games as mere posturing in the sexual marketplace, but she genuinely dislikes men and regards sex as a burden. She's essentially a lesbian who doesn't like sex with women.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
And thinks men are too stupid to pick up on that and/or that she is entitled to the fruits of their labor despite that.
It's an absolutely toxic personality to have, and its very common to run into women having, and yet it is not socially acceptable to point out in mixed company except in the most milquetoast or indirect terms.
And then "people" wonder why so many men have checked out of participation in society and have become avoidant. That's what going to happen when the reward of being a Good Man is running face-first into this shit every day.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
My favourite part.... and it's subtle but....
Why not write "Must be 36 to 52" ???
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
keeping things simple and to the point is a tool of the patriarchy!
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
Hahaha..... well.
That's a funny line, but it's true.
Women love ambiguity when it benefits them ....... "I don't know if I like you yet, buy me another drink". And hate ambiguity when it doesn't suit them....... "WHAT ARE WE???"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Just like "games". They suddenly dislike them when they are losing.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Well see, if she makes it seem like she's making an exception for anyone on that edges, maybe they'll try harder.
Or some other performative horseshit where women think that making a show of pickiness and a token gesture at "overlooking" it makes them more attractive/moar gooder.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
Ah.... gotcha.....
So it's basically "I am super picky! But not really!"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
"Worship my beneficence in making token concessions to my ridiculous demands!"
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
@mattyanon this is a fundamental tenet of Eff Dee Ess: a form of negging where they goalpost move and carrot stick men with transactional sex to brainwash him into servitude. They posted a supposed guy saying he loved “pursuing” her and pleasing her to prove his worth.
This works on betas and 1 alpha I knew. Problem is they don’t want betas anymore.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
I think there is an instinct to "get the best guy I've ever seen".
In a village of 100 people, she might bang him and then settle down with an unlucky beta.
In a village of 4 billion people, she's demanding Ryan Gosling's face, Elon Musk's wealth, and Edward Cullen's unaccountable loyalty to her and only her.