Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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HitTheRoadJill 1mo ago
Heavily tattoooed women have niche appeal to heavily tattooed men. That’s why she eventually admitted that she gets approached a lot and just doesn’t like them.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
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This is a perfect Weekend Content piece. She seems so puzzled. What is going on? She just can't figure it out. We all know what's happening (and you'll be happy to explain) but she speaks in code and is a master at ignoring the obvious. "I eat so much but I get fat. What's going on?"
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
And finally she answers her own question. But it's not the answer she wanted.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
She's a catch, eh? Well I went to the supermarket just yesterday and saw their daily catch. Its red veiny gills were pulsing open and shut like a metronome. Do you think her lips look similar to that?
TJMS Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
cue Apocalypse now
The horror... the horror...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Russian women are into the puffed collagen (sp?) lip look. I find it disgusting but my wife says "who cares what you think?" which is amusing. I mean if I was getting a mullet and most women found mullets gross, I'd reconsider. I think this is an aspect of modern feminine entitlement and feminism: That women "don't dress for men anymore" but rather for women's fashions entirely and there's a fashion sense to tattoos. The 90's tramp stamp, the 2010 boob chandelier, and so on.
She's confused that her post-modern tattoo fashions conflict with what Chad desires. I often see otherwise pretty women with horrid tattoos and face piercings. It's an instant turn off for me. I asked a few guys and they said they don't MIND one or two face piercings but that's like a woman not "minding" if you're Chad and have a mullet. It's something I suppose we'll put up with, particularly while getting laid.
When I met my wife she lightly smoked but I told her I can't stand it. She simply quit and hasn't smoked since. I guess it was her just fitting in with her dear friend. Problem with tattoos is that, unlike smoking, how do they "quit?" Look like a burn victim after removal?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
With the popularity of cosmetic procedures, I really do think that it's mainly about showing off one's ability to conspicuously consume and get attention rather than looking good.
It is possible to choose a less-intrusive kind of procedure which looks more natural-- in fact this was the goal for a long time. To make one's beauty seem natural. But in the age of social media, I guess that wouldn't grab as much attention.
In Japan, there's been an aesthetic style called 'wabi-sabi,' which has it that imperfection is an inherent part of beauty. A lot of ceramics will have a smudge or dent put into them to make them look a bit more authentically handmade. It's also why a lot of gorgeous Japanese women might also have the occasional crooked teeth in her smile. It adds character, authenticity, it's not "too perfect" because that would be unnatural. Imperfection or roughness helps to create the individual.
The next time you happen to see an artistic representation of Mt. Fuji-- sometimes its there, often its not-- when you approach the slope of Mt. Fuji from a distance, the slope of the cinder cone is a very elegant line, sometimes people will describe it as a kind of 'perfect' natural curve. But on one portion, (on the south slope, I think?) there's a secondary vent poking up, which adds a kind of bump which interrupts the downward curve.
Japanese people are fond of that little bump. It adds character. The line is just smooth, smooth, smooth- bomp- smooth. Whenever you see it in a painting or drawing, the artist was specifically looking to put it in.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
All you women "just want" the same impossible things. All of you think you are some kind of amazing catch, and all of you justify these sky-high standards by offering things men are repulsed by.
Ok, so you're fat? Or pretty according to... convention? Which conventions are those?
Well, men "just want" a debt-free virgin with NO tattoos. We do not want "independent" career whores with a past.
You mentioned yourself using words like "I/me/mine/myself" 55 times in that one post. Achievement not unlocked.
Press 1 to doubt. You just want validation in your "lonely" dating life despite the hundreds of perfectly eligible men you have failed to notice.
Well, here you go: You are so amazing, you have never done anything wrong and deserve everything you want. No man is good enough for you and never could be. You are beautiful just the way you are and should never do anything to change. Yes, I love your short hair, tats, and "conventional" gut. Any loneliness you experience is 100% the fault of men.
Now please shut up and leave men alone for the rest of your life.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
You left out her green hair as qualites
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Great example of how a large swath of men is perceived by women to be so beneath her that they might as well be invisible. "Just noise", by her own words.
Beyond that, she can hamster wheel all she likes, but at the end of the day, if you can't find any dating success with the people you're attracted to, then those people are just not attracted to you. Maybe it's because they're too picky, or maybe it's because you are, but regardless of the cause, there are only three options: figure out why you're not attractive to them and fix it (if possible), temper your expectations, or opt out of dating. Equally valid for both genders, too.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
There's a 4th option I've told women friends and they do not want it: Learn how to approach men you desire and handle rejection.
They enjoy massive ego boosts from being approached by "noisy" men as well as sex with Chad. Prior to the apps and in a more chaste era, women such as my mother interacted with about a half dozen men or so. That's it. That's why they were in a rush to get married by their mid-20's at most: They understood the concept of The Wall and how high school and college were their best opportunities to meet men the "old fashioned way" without standing around a dance hall waiting to be asked to dance.
This woman, assuming she even knows her father, wouldn't want a man like her father her mother "settled" for. Life is settling. You fly to Paris on economy rather than business class but you enjoy the trip anyway. Our whole civilization was literally built by "settlers". They didn't arrive to The New World to move into McMansions. They had to work for years to build 1 room log cabins.
This woman doesn't state her age, but I would guess if she thinks she's "conventionally attractive" despite being tatted-up, she likely is older. The hottest guys simply don't need to bother cold approaching post wall women when they can get thousands on the apps.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
P'shaw! Next you'll be telling them to grow a scrotum, memorize baseball factoids and develop a taste for raw meat!
Advice exists to soothe feelings and kiss emotional boo-boos in the short run. Not to do useless, frightening things like solving problems, personal development and making better life choices so that the Sisyphean struggle through the meaningless slaughterhouse of existence in a cold, empty vacuum of a universe can become slightly less painful and less meaningless in the long run. Pah! Stupid men...
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
What are these "women friends" you speak of, my man?
Half kidding. I don't socialize with women. But different strokes for different folks.
NPC070201 1mo ago
I have 2 women friends. We've been friends for over 30 years. Both of them are like sisters to me, because of the time spent etc. One is married tje other is single. The married one is married to a good dude, she and I were friends before she even met him, but he and I developed our own friendship outside of her. The other one is perpetually single. She is typical and guilty of most all the things that we see women on here do. If I didn't already have time invested in the friendship and I didn't already love her like a sister, I wouldn't want to be friends with her. Anyhoo, I have given up trying to give her advise about dating. She is absolutely convinced that she 'knows how men think', even though I'm available to her. Now I just roll my eyes and chuckle when she starts talking about men and dating.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
She already knows what men like, which is why she won't give it to them.
The old femaledatingstrategy subreddit was a hilarious swollen pus-filled blister of that kind of thing. When you and I talk "strategy", it's typically about the steps we should take to implement a plan. Like, one's marketing strategy or military strategy.
Not so for dating strategy, no. Much of it a lot of hotheaded wishful thinking about what demands ought to be made of men. So the only thing women had to do was to make those demands of men while continuing to do what they were already doing: Fuck Chad until Rich Chad rides by in his Ferrari and then throwing themselves in front of the car like some insurance scammer in rural Tatarstan.
Just keep on doin' what you're doin' doesn't require much actual strategizing, I don't think.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
They're daughters of friends, friends of my wife and relatives, and so on. I have older women friends as well. I think they're invaluable and cherished. These are not the normie women of today, of course.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
You're out of luck, sugar booger. the man you want is WAY out of your league.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
For any lurking women: that's a very masculine quality. It does not make you more attractive to men. At best, we interpret it as "maybe she'll actually contribute a bit instead of just freeloading".
LMAO she reminds me of this WAATGM classic.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
It's amusing how women, and many men, can mistake toxic masculine traits for desirability. I personally found that "negging" or being a "jerk" sometimes was attractive to women who wanted tough-guy genes for her sons. Not to PROTECT her but rather to, er, knock up and abandon dozens of women.
For example: Genghis Khan didn't spread his genes across Asia but rather his MOTHER'S.
It is amusing when these women think that the tough guy act should attract men with choices in that a woman whose ambivalent and uninterested in relationships should "inspire" men to "make more effort". The type of men with options won't bother. These women simply don't think this stuff through.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
thinking things through is a tool of the patriarchy!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Minor quibble: Their hamster-wheel rationalizations are second to none. Consider the Lindsay Clancey case or their other nonsense to justify men paying for dates. "These manicures aren't free, you know!"
I cut through my wife's thinking at times with a butter knife and it's a joy to watch as her eyes dilate like a cat when I pick up the laser pointer.
SeasonedRP 1mo ago
"Conventionally attractive" and "heavily tattooed" don't go together. Decent men wouldn't want to be seen in a relationship with someone like her. She's for pump and dump only, not a relationship.
HitTheRoadJill 1mo ago
Gross, not even for pump and dump, just straight to dump.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
Conventionally attractive in 1820s Maori culture, perhaps. Before the introduction of gunpowder weapons.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I worked for an offshore drilling company. I was mid management and my job was to assist drilling rigs on electrical issues.
About twice a year, I was involved with meetings with potential customers, i,e. CEO's, Presidents of companies, their engineering teams etc. Sometimes wives did attend dinners with customers, and if my wife looked like the tatooed lady at the circus, it would reflect in a bad way on my career.
My boss rejected a mechanical engineer, who was in the Navy, due to his neck tatoos. We wanted to look professional, business casual for work and formal at high level meetings.
A heavily tatted wife would not work for me, and I think for most men, too. She is single, because she is stupid, no common sense.
SeasonedRP 1mo ago
I was thinking something similar when I read this post. I couldn't take someone like that to work-related events. I see these young girls tatted up and shake my head in disgust.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Even assuming she's telling the truth about her positives, those simply aren't enough to overcome the singular negative of being "heavily tattooed." That level of ink indicates a concerted effort to fill a large hole (heh) in her soul. In other words, she's just not worth the potential trouble, even on a slow Tuesday.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
"O Chad-eo, Chad-eo-- where for art thou, Chad-eo??"
Alas and alack! Losers, losers everywhere! Zounds, forsooth and gadzooks!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
I dunno if you ever remember what it was like dealing with visitors from the Soviet union in the 1980s, but my city had a sister-city relationship with an analogous place in that country and since I was learning Russian (as a hobby) I would sometimes go to these events as a teenager, where the committee would welcome their guests to town and you'd get a chance to shake hands and have juice and cookies or whatever. My parents were like "Oh, you wanna sit at a public meeting and speak a little bit of Russian at the end? Well, at least you're not hanging out with motorcycle gangs or Puerto Ricans. Go right ahead."
Anyway, one of the cliche things was that when Soviets went to a supermarket in the US for the first time, they would get stunned by the abundance. 40 brands of breakfast cereal, 20 brands of strawberry jam, etc etc etc. In a Soviet supermarket, there might be 1 kind of jam and that's what everyone used. And the reaction was this kind of paralysis "Do you NEED 20 brands of the same jam?? How do you choose??" and so on. And Americans, perhaps to each other, would rather smugly feel vindicated about their way of life, etc etc.
Well, that's the paradox of choice, isn't it: Too many options just overwhelm you. The difference is that the Soviets were brought up in a place of relative deprivation. It's understandible at least.
I have far less sympathy for a person who was brought-up in the society but STILL can't choose. They stand in front of a loaded refrigerator, complaining there's nothing to eat.
I have even less sympathy for the same person who simply opens their mouth, and expects the food to jump in. And when food tries to jump in, slaps it away and says "no, not THAT food. I want something truly delicious but I don't know what it is myself."
That's not the paradox of choice, that's just being such a fucking lazy and spoiled hothouse plant that you can't be bothered to reconcile your topmost flights of fantasy with the reality of what exists around you. REALITY isn't a goddamned Disney movie.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I think they know what's "delicious" but the problem is that to articulate it, they'd have to acknowledge they have champagne tastes but a beer budget, as we say.
Regarding as Devo would put it: "Freedom of choice!" My wife says American bread stinks and the ice cream isn't fatty enough. Us Americans have moved off of the choice paradigm to either quality or value. You go to Costco or Aldi and you'll have a limited selection, but either it's cheap or good value or quality. Not everything at Costco is great, sometimes they have duds. That said, as our economy and society has stuttered, I've noticed a Soviet-like shortage of things as well as a limit of choice based upon caste. Sure, I can go to Whole Foods and see 30 different types of mustard but I'll pay through the nose. I largely hit a supermarket for the few items I definitely want much like pig poking up truffles.
It's not just women hitting the wall, but our society with all these chickens coming-home-to-roost: Mass 3rd world migration, jobs outsourcing, welfare state crackhead mothers and their criminal spawn, DEI and corruption, and an increasingly low-trust society with no culture other than your tribal affiliations.
So sometimes I see women in tiktok videos in their car crying "I just want to be able to afford an apartment on my own!" as they have zero hope to be a "strong and independent" career woman. Men have struggled for a half century and now it's, as Reagan would put it, trickling down to the educated white women.
"We didn't start the fire! It was always burning since the world was turning!"
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
I was in my early 20s when I decided that I didn't foresee much of a future for myself in the US. There were a number of reasons for this which sort of hit a critical mass around the year 2000. Among the reasons was the extent to which children seemed to have no respect for adults. Wives had no respect for their husbands, and they seemed to divorce rather frequently for petty reasons, which is enough to destroy a man-- and then people would turn on him very quickly. A kid would grow-up feeling like they were robbed of a relationship with their dad, and no one would bat an eyelash about it. That made me pretty damn queasy. I just didn't want to have a kid or raise a kid in that kind of milieu.
Another item was the mutual dislike that parents, teachers and school administrators all had for each other, when they were (in theory) supposed to all be on the same team. It's a weird three way enmity. The teachers hate the administrators and parents, the parents hate the administrators and teachers and the administrators hate the teachers and parents. It's just really odd when you spend time among Taiwanese families that parents reflexively tend to defer to the teachers. "Don't complain to me, study harder and do what your teacher says." End of argument. My parents were basically white people who acted like stereotypical Asian parents.
In 1992 or 1993, I was fascinated about the potential of Greater China as an economic unit, and I wanted to find a way to combine my love of languages and travel with some way to make a living. That was my really, really weird fixation. And I somehow ended up in a place where the social contact hasn't been shattered. If it hadn't been for that... who knows? I might now be attracting stray dogs as a crumpled little dried pile of bones in an alley somewhere.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I lucked out also partly due to how with disdain I was treated in American society so I didn't take it seriously. This was compounded by the disdain they showed for my Ukrainian wife including them calling her a "green card whore" behind her back and snotty to her face. Hence, she didn't feel a need to pander to gain their approval which was ok by me.
The aunt who mocked my wife as a GCW has all three of her sons getting divorced by their American wives. The relatives who mocked me for my interest in my slavic heritage are now, IMO, not anyone to envy. Some are financially better off but overall, I'm happier with my personal situation.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
The sluggard buries his hand in the dish
But will not even bring it back to his mouth.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
She wants the same highly desirable men that practically all women want, and even if those men are willing to settle down (why should they in this day and age?), it won't be with a woman who can pass as a biker moll.