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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
29, single mom, nOt hErE tO hOokUp, on a hookup app = she's had those lips on more wieners than a hot dog eating contest champion.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
She's a Chad-cum addict, my friend. And she loves her dealers.
A pity about you, though. You've gotta help change some poopy diapers and heat-up some formula.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
And how is that long haul thing working out for you lady? 3 kids and counting. No husband.
"I am going sober this time". I bet you have said that before.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
If only she tried to lock down a good man for marriage at least 9 years earlier before popping out any children, but instead she will have to convince a good man, who by her standards will be far less attractive than the good men she brushed off in favor of a Chad a decade ago.
Hook up apps are dying because more and more of the non-Chads are realising that they are wasting their time and money on those things, and as for Ms 29, once she turns 30, the matches will fall off a cliff.
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Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
It essentially serves as a filter for two types of people: Those who don't care about the profile text, and those desperate enough to cave to her regardless of how unreasonable she is.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I was thinking this is another aspect of tolerated teenage girl behavior we've come to expect, and even celebrate, as a norm from adult women with full legal rights.
In the past, women didn't have full rights so it was tolerated that they couldn't say what they thought or even accept mental responsibility for their desires anyhow. When they "work on themselves", they mean they saw a shrink to try to figure out their actual actions versus their mental intentions. Think about how literally insane that is.
Here's someone with sole custody of 3 minor children and she likely has little idea of what she actually wants or what's best for her "little beings". Not only that, "time to settle down". Bad news for her: She's "settled down" whether she likes it or not. Sure, she could take a porta-potty trip to Dubai if she wanted, but CPS might yank away her kids.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Becomes a mother at 21, wants commitment at 29. She could easily have both of those things if she had simply swapped them around... but I suppose we'd lose out on the entertainment of seeing women torpedo their own lives for no apparent reason.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 3mo ago
Yeah, this is what I don't get. Women seem to view having an LTR or marriage as somehow incompatible with their life goals. This woman could have easily gotten married in her early twenties, and most likely, her husband would have supported her going to college and becoming an ophthalmic tech. And if they decided to have kids at that early age, at least she would have a husband to help with taking care of them and paying for their care.
This whole nonsense that somehow "I can't get settle down right now. I'm too busy with my studies / career!!" while meanwhile spending all their energy and attention on finding dudes to bang every weekend seems stupid. Women who are single spend more time in relationship drama than women who are married or in stable LTRs. If anything, it's the other way around: if you're serious about your studies and career, get a spouse! And you two can face the challenges together while ticking off one big accomplishment you don't have to spend more time pursuing.
FWIW, I think this stems from feminism indoctrinating women that somehow, relationships are harmful to women. That guys are just lazy good-for-nothing sponges who will take all your time and energy and give nothing back. Thus the complaints about becoming "bang-maids" (as if it wouldn't be easier and cheaper to hire a maid and a prostitute if that's what a guy wanted) or doing "emotional labor". Therefore, it's somehow less work and emotional labor to ride the cock carousel instead.
Historically, this was seen as so obvious as not even worth discussing: two committed people will have a much easier time navigating through life than a single person on their own. Whether that's education, children, retirement, whatever your goal is. Leave it to feminism to deny this obvious truth.
And so now we're left with this: a young woman who's fucked both her own life and her 3 children's because somehow she felt that riding the CC would help advance her life goals while getting a stable relationship would hinder them. And who thinks that, now that she's thoroughly fucked over her life to the point where even she's realizing the struggle she's facing, that somehow the men she assumed would bring her down in her 20s, will now magically raise her up in her 30s.
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Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
This paints women as helpless pawns in a system that sabotages them. The reality is much simpler, they want to ride the carousel because it feels good in the moment, and by the time they realize a life of hedonism comes with long-term consequences, they already dug a hole too deep. Feminism didn't indoctrinate women into doing the wrong thing, but rather, pre-feminism societies would shame women into doing the right thing. Female nature is selfish, short-sighted, and often self-destructive, feminism just removed the guard rails and let women plummet to their demise.
From that perspective, women are a lot more coherent in their behavior. The "busy with studies/career" line is just a more palatable way to phrase "busy with lots of casual sex", that's the real reason why a LTR/marriage is incompatible with them. Same thing with the bang-maids complaint, it's merely an excuse to stay away from LTRs while the carousel is open for business, if they were actually worried about being exploited in a relationship they wouldn't suddenly start looking for commitment when the carousel tosses them out.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
She: I had my fun and kids with bad bois, now I want a real relationship. Also, I am running out of cash. I accept debit cards, credit cards and cash, NO CHECKS. In exchange, I will offer you undying love until I divorce rape you in 2-3 years. No dick pics, I have plenty from my ex's.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Ahhhh, phlebotomists. I had a crush on a few back in college when I picked up plasma donation cash. They were even MORE slutty than RNs, if you can believe that's possible. They earn about as much as a waitress at a family restaurant. They see dozens of sultry college students and hood rats all day long.
In regards to your point, she's probably in panic mode and needs the bailout. Consider: She earns JUST ENOUGH to not qualify for the best welfare benefits. She earns low enough to get some help with daycare, but only a partial subsidy. No food stamps. No housing assistance.
And imagine! She just went through 8 years of a small one in daycare, one after the other, and just as the other one is old enough to go to primary school she's back on the infant track again!
Think about it: If she had married a Boring Beta, she could have been a housewife during all this time. Yes, should wouldn't have been rich but she'd have been comfortable and not worried about money (which is a MAN'S job after all!) She could have relaxed at home and watched the Soaps, gossiped with neighbors, and hung out at the park.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
Vile OPPRESSION, in other words.
But this woman is free. As free as the birds fluttering o'er Chad's mighty towering penis.
Dorballom08 3mo ago
2 month kid, she just finished her last cc riding cycle and returned to the market. What makes you think this time she truly reformed herself and left the cc for good? Even the writing seems affected by her recent post partum infant issues.
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JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Please state your 2-month-old son's achievements that have rapidly elevated him to "amazing" status.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
He babbles at a 7-month level.
I read somewhere that infants might've evolved to be adorable so that moms will be less inclined to murder 'em.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
He'll soon display genius skills at playing with blocks and Silly Puddy.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
"Given that I will be financially supporting and emotionally bonding with your kids, are you comfortable signing joint custody / adoption papers giving me equal parental rights?"
Farang131 3mo ago
My former friend adopted his wifes kid I thought he was being a simp by doing this but at least he has some legal rights this way and he cant be cut off on a whim.
But its a messed up situation she is a decade older than him with 3 kids and doesnt want any kids with him but he claims to be happy so so be it.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
Brainwashed..... but at least he's happy.
Honestly, it's a sucky deal..... because as the adopted father you're now on the hook for mother support payments disguised as child support.
I wonder how this works for child support actually. Kid now has two legal fathers??
Adopting is fair enough I guess...... it's just dumb that you're adopting and she isn't'.
Meh, not my problem, not your problem.
Farang131 3mo ago
So you would be cool with adopting a kid if your wife was also adopting it but if its her kid and you are the only one adopting you think fuck that its a bad deal?
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
Not sure I'd be cool with it exactly...... but it's an option in life I guess.
yeah, this is terrible, this is cuckold territory.
Farang131 3mo ago
I'm not sure how to explain it. He's tall, wealthy with a gym bod he has no kids and no previous marriages he could do way better. I think he might have mummy issues as she is over a decade or so older than him he is 4O she is 52 or something. She has 3 kids from 2 or 3 different men.
His wife didn't like me so made him end the friendship I think she wants him to have only blue pill / pushover / simp friends as anything else is a threat. Through the grapevine I tried to get him to do a prenup but of course he wouldn’t do that. I thought at least she wont have him completely by the balls if he does one but no luck unfortunately.
Some people think he is gay and its a cover up marriage which could also be true.
He's constantly saying how lucky and happy me is on social media. I suspect that people who regularly declare how lucky and happy they are on social media may not actually be. If I felt crazy happy and lucky the last thing I would want to do is post about it on social media for some jealous troll to try and ruin it.
I must admit I do sometimes wish I was ignorant to this stuff ignorance is bliss and all that.
The biological father has nothing to do with the kid and I guess probably isn’t even on the birth certificate.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
Right. Most of it is performative.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
No, you're just mommy's boyfriend.
In event of an emergency, you are expected to take a kid to the hospital and foot the bill. You sure as hell don't have a right to actually visit them, though. That's for the parent/guardian, which you are not.
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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
No way they'll accept this deal.
Women are control freaks. They want money, they don't want to lose control.
They fight the original father for custody, no way they'll go for this deal.
Farang131 3mo ago
Why are women control freaks? How can they be submissive and a control freak at the same time?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
They only submit to the man they perceive as their hypergamous best option, or to daddy gubment and/or Current Thing.
If you're just some nobody to her, she's not going to submit to you.
And if she's divorcing her kids' father, she sure as hell isn't submitting to him.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
sexually submissive to alpha males
socially controlling.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
On top of that, now stepdaddy is on the hook for child support when the hobag inevitably gets bored and files for divorce.
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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Yeah losing full uncontested custody means losing out on potential future child support.
What if she finds some rich chump to be a stepdaddy 6 months from now? Needs to still have custody of the womb turd to fully strip-mine him.
Farang131 3mo ago
How would this lose child support?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
Because she can't reassign child support obligations to newer richer men anymore if a previous man has full custody. In fact, she may not get paid child support at all since he is the one with full custody.
Keep in mind that a lot of women exploit their children as an income stream to be maximized, welfare of the child be damned.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I knew a black woman, 29, playing the rigged single mom game. She had 2 kids by different men. NO ISSUE! Why? both men were broke, but she got all sorts of government aid. She was working with me at a DCS control company doing graphics design I would say at $45/hour. BTW she had several Red Bottom Shoes at $1,500/pair, and she had 2 new cars. This is why your taxes are high.
Farang131 3mo ago
Oh ok thanks now I understand. Yeah society is fucked paying women to have sex with bad boys, get pregnant then blast the men that are paying for it all via taxes.
Farang131 3mo ago
Side note in the USA they lose alimony if they get remarried.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
I don't go anywhere near single moms, especially if she has daughters. All it would take is to piss her off one time (or one of the kids), and then you get slapped with a sexual assault on a minor charge.
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FUCK THAT!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
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Great, so like every other neglectful single mother on the planet. Good job. After working all week and trying to be a good mother without a father figure to lean on, how much time will you really have for a "not random hook up" relationship?
Most men like kids fine. It's our instinct to raise them well. But our nation and culture distrusts us, considers us predators by default, and has systematically stripped our authority away, even over our own kids. Men are starting to realize that there is no responsibility without authority. And if you don't respect and appreciate us, you can keep raising your brats by yourself.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
I like kids about as much as I like pickle relish on a Klondike bar.
And boy, do I love Klondike bars but not with relish on them.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
But maybe a 4th Chad-child is what you need?
Your world will get 33% bigger, doesn't that sound good?
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
To be fair, her brood's amazingness will also increase 33%, so she's got that going for her.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Her weight will get 33% bigger on your paycheck.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
More of her to love, bay-beh.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 3mo ago
I wish we got the followups on these women, 5 years later.
Did you stop hooking up?
Did you get a hot 6 foot 6 pack 7 figures 9 inch provider to marry you and raise your children while he has eyes for you and only you?
Is he happy?
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
6' is so 2025. It is now 6'2" with a 12"dick. Lets get real here.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
expectationflation?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Meanwhile thanks to feminism and mainstream society, modern women are increasingly the products of "enshittification".
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
And she is the prize.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
A booby prize maybe...
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 3mo ago
Posted on Reddit.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3mo ago
Thx bud!
SeasonedRP 3mo ago
I wonder how many fathers sired those three kids. I doubt it is just one.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3mo ago
It might've been 4 dads. Don't scoff- with sufficiently advanced sexual techniques, anything is possible.