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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I can't help but wonder: What are the goals of these women? Why do they want a relationship in the first place?
At 39, you are unlikely to have biological children, so building a family seems an unlikely goal. I guess she can adopt, though?
She already earns a comfortable amount of money. It sounds like she can follow the male script, invest wisely and have enough money for retirement when she is too old to work herself.
There seems to be no illusions about magical fairytale love. There are no mentions of personality related attributes. All that matters is height, wealth, and location.
So she doesn't really need a man, yet she is desperate enough to hire help to find one. The implication I am left with is money and status is the goal. She wants someone to fund her early retirement by becoming a stay-at-home wife, while gaining the social status of being married.
But that just seems so unbelievably shallow, and honestly somewhat exploitative. And bad for her. She can live a perfectly good life on her own and can likely support her parents by herself. Yet she instead chooses to invest her time and effort into this most likely fruitless endeavor.
But she doesn't need to be unhappy. She won the game she set out to play! Enjoy what you have, woman, instead of yearning for the impossible, and your life would probably be much better for it.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
Why do women want a Fendi purse when they already have a perfectly good one in their closet?
These women need a man to complete the status picture that allows them to compete with their BFF frenemies when they gather for lunch at the latest instagram-worthy restaurant.
They are not interested in sex. They can get (and usually have gotten) as much sex as they want fucking hot but poor dudes on the down low (or traveling to Bali / Jamaica / Africa as part of the female sex tourism trade). And as you mention, they don't necessarily need the extra money, just like they don't really need the Fendi bag.
But everyone and their mother (including their own) will regard them as incomplete if they don't have the perfect home life. And that starts with a top tier man:
Why does she need someone richer? Not for the money (at least at her level). Because it implies that he chose her for something besides her wealth. Her personality, her looks, etc.
Why does he need to be hot and charismatic and funny and desirable? It's actually not for sexual attraction (she'll fuck the pool boy when he's gone, or keep a cub on the side as she enters her cougar years). It's because of what that says about her: he's desirable enough to get loads of women offering casual sex all the way to marriage, but only she tamed him. He chose her, and not for a ONS, but for marriage.
IOW, it is all about her. She may not even be interested in kids (or if she is, it's only because those bitches from high school keep posting pictures of their totes-adorbs kiddos on instagram and she has no reply). She knows she needs a man because ultimately they crave male desire (not the man himself; just his desire) because it's another token in their game of status one-up-manship.
If they really just wanted a good man who would take care of her and their family, and be a great partner for the rest of their lives, then they wouldn't care if he has the "right" job or came from the "right" college, etc. But the only way these psychopaths have sustained themselves on the bruising path to extraordinary salaries (when most people would level off and focus on other parts of their lives after hitting a comfortable level, like say 1 crore) is because that number becomes a status object as well. It's why Elon Musk wants to become a trillionaire, while he admits to couch surfing at friends' homes. You think he needs the extra money? The number is just another status object for someone who's addicted to it. And for a woman like this, a man is the biggest missing status object that she needs to acquire.
I think as men, we have absolutely no clue how innate and intricate women's status competitions are. For most men, "status" boils down to one main thing: How hot is the girl you're fucking? Beyond that are other levers but they're entirely optional. Even money isn't a big deal; I've hung out with multi-millionaires and a few billionaires, and no one really cares, except perhaps when that money allows them to attract a woman hotter than you can get.
And I think it's because we're descended from chimps. In chimp colonies, male status is very, very clear. You are higher on the status chain because you beat up the other guy. And if you wish to increase your status, you challenge the alpha to a fight, beat his ass, and his kingdom is yours. There's no other way to gaining respect and status for a guy. If you're a low status chimp, you have two choices: fight the guy above you, or leave the colony.
In contrast, female chimps don't overtly fight each other. While lineage is perhaps the most important determinant, it's not the be-all and end-all the way fighting is for males. Who grooms whom, who is allowed to discipline who's children, even who walks first on a path, are all part of the hustle.
So while status is equally important for both sexes, for males, it's down to one single factor, and it's explicit. Once it's settled, it's done. For females, it's a multitude of factors, most of which are varying degrees of subtle, and it's never explicit. Always implicit, varying, calibrating.
Which is why for human females, they spend so much time negotiating status among other women, while us guys scratch our heads and wonder why they waste so much time in pointless games.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
That's the neat part, they don't actually want the relationship itself, they despise being a worthwhile partner and call it "emotional labor" and misc other euphemisms to avoid outright admitting that they think they are entitled to the status and conveniences of a relationship while inputting none of the work. It's just another check on the GirlBoss achievement list.
Meanwhile the man will be expected to earn enough to support at minimum two people in an upper class lifestyle in the Big City with no assistance or appreciation. And buh gawd he better not think he gets to rest for 5 min after getting home from his 80 hr work week at a job he hates, no, he better chip in on childcare and housework immediately with a smile too.
These women literally expect some creepy Stepford husband shit and are baffled when men aren't interested.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Well said.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Over the decades, I have developed a theory: These women are increasingly asexual and ambivalent towards men. They're Corporate Nuns © or mental lesbians. They have lifetime friends with other women from childhood competing to be at The Cool Table or The Mean Girls. They claim The Patriarchy suppresses them but they are terrified of being condemned by other women, even women on the street they don't even know.
Not only that, but they even despise men. There's feminism, of course, which taught them that men are oppressors but also trad-feminism which teaches them we are disposable ATM machine sexual beggars. They find the ideologies alluring because it guarantees to them servants to please them, but the paradox is that they regard such men to be pathetic and disgusting to share a bed with.
Their solution is quite simple: They'll TOLERATE a man if he's like a Marvel Superhero: If he has ultra high social status so that ALL women will regard him on her arm in public as a status symbol, like a designer purse. Those men are desirable of course BUT she can't tell the sisterhood she "slutted" for him by paying her own way on dates, or asking him out. She needs to require him to be "sensitive" enough to reject other women for her but still do everything the betas do.
"Why are men so selfish?" she thinks.
She didn't think about this before until age 39 similar to not studying for an unpleasant exam the night before. There are women who do get pregnant at age 39 and certainly some betas would snatch them up. After decades of hamster wheel building Franken-Beta-Chads, the best she can do is call someone and say:
"Here's $10 grand, go out and find Franken-Beta-Chad. If he hurries, he can wife me up and put an IVF baby in me AND please my parents AND impress all my friends! Do you need an extra $20 for cab fare and expenses?"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Heh, I've been saying for years that these women want a Frankenchad.
There was a term going around the manosphere a few years back called "the Voltron Effect". Thing is, as I pointed out in this thread:
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
It is just such a waste in that case. Spending so much time on looking for a man that does not exist. "Franken-Beta-Chad" seems a suitable term.
Focusing on your career and forging your own path through life can work. I have met a few really impressive women who did that. But it requires the ability to not be swept up by the vibe and to stand proud while holding on to your values, even when it makes people think you are a fool.
By being so controlled by her fears, she gets the worst of both worlds. A job she doesn't care about except that it gives her social status, and shallow personal relationships that can be exchanged on a whim. Even the hobbies would simply be the kinds of things popular girls do, done merely for the reason that she wants to be popular.
I can only imagine the hollowness of such a life. Yet she continues to choose it. I suppose letting go of the fantasy of the picture perfect life is difficult, but by facing reality, she would likely be much better off.
throwaway415 1mo ago
they are looking for alpha fux and beta bux.
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Except in this case there is no need for beta buxxing. She earns more than enough to support herself, and has no plans to quit her job. She does not require a bailout.
throwaway415 1mo ago
she doesn't require it but she wants it. she can afford to support herself but doesn't want to. she wants to save all that money and have a beta pay for everything, but she also wants alpha fux on top of that for pleasure
women want their cake and to eat it too
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Sure there is: her hypergamous instinct. She needs a high-earning man.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Feminism is a cancer that has infected the entirety of the developed world. There is no saving these women.
Bring on the robot waifus.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
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Oh, and 2 Crore is about $208K USD. Not that I need to tell @ogrilla99 that…
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1mo ago
Cross posted in r/WAATGM.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Ah! If I'd just waited a few minutes, I'd have had the answers I sought.
@Land_of_the_losers, just ignore my tag of you from earlier
But better tag @redpillschool for good measure
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
I used Brave search to convert 2 crores to USD. It was mere pennies, so that can't be right. Can someone more worldly and well-traveled than me (*cough @Land_of_the_losers *cough) give us a better idea of how much this is?
Anyway, this is hilarious. These women have no idea what men want or what men value, and they don't care. It's just "I want I want I want I want I WANT!!!"
enjoy your career! It's all you have, and all you are.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
India's traditional numbering system is a little different than US systems. We have names for intervals of 3 digits, i.e. 1,000 = thousand; 1,000,000 = million; 1,000,000,000 = billion (I understand in England it's different: 1 billion = 1 million x 1 million. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?)
In India, they go by two digits. 1,000 = thousand; but then 1,00,000 = lakh; 1,00,00,000 = crore So 1 crore in Indian terms is the same as 10 million. Convert 10 million rupees to USD with exchange rate of 95 INR = 1 USD => ~$105,000 dollars (or 1 lakh dollars if you prefer :-)
(to go higher than 1 crore, we use 1,000,00,00,000 = 1 thousand crore (10 billion) and 1,00,000,00,00,000 = 1 lakh crore (1 trillion))
Now, $200k doesn't seem like much to American ears, but to earn 2 crore rupees in India, you are extraordinarily rich. Using this calculator: https://indiaincomecheck.in/
It would put you in the top 0.044%. The equivalent salary (based on income percentile) in the US would be somewhere between $5-10 million annually.
That's what she's looking for in a man. Oh yeah, and he has to be hot, never married, and no more than 3 years older than her. And now you know why she's looking for 12 years and hasn't found anyone...
(NB: she apparently lives in Singapore, and is looking for someone there. I'm not sure what $200k means in terms of income percentile in Singapore. So maybe she's a touch more realistic there :-)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
google "convert 2 crore india to usd" That's why I tagged @ogrilla99
So anyone, please, can we get a third matchmaker hypergamy queen for Sunday to complete the weekend trilogy?!?!
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
If you are converting 1 crore Indian Rupees (INR) to US Dollars (USD), it equals $105,000 USD. This is $210,000 USD.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
I thought they were Singaporean crore?
And I tagged @redpillschool because tradition
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
My understanding is that 'crore' is normally associated with Indian-influenced accounting systems. Malaysia and Singapore have Indian-descended minorities and immigrant communities, but the currencies in those countries (Singaporean dollars and Malaysia Ringgit) aren't typically associated with the Indian numbering system.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Well gee lady, they're going to think you are going to remain single so long as you fail to grasp that your marriage value is rock-bottom and your demands sky-high.