Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 5d ago
No, Miss! NO. It's NEVER you.
You're perfect in every way. You've been smiling through your life, letting things happen around you, while making all of the right decisions and all of the right calls. It's the rest of the planet who has failed you.
The employers don't pay you enough and give you enough promotions. The social media upvotes aren't numerous enough when you post your brilliant, inarguably true opinions. The men aren't hot/tall/rich/suave enough and aren't working hard enough to gain your all-important approval. They're all failing you in different ways. They're not in secret cahoots with each other to frustrate you-- saying that would sound paranoid, ha ha-- but if they were in secret cahoots with each other, they wouldn't advertise it and it would resemble not being in secret cahoots with each other. Which would lull you into complacency. Hm. Really makes you think.
But just keep on keepin' on, queen! It's all part of your journey...
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago
Woman: "I cannot commit to your future children because I have my own, I have negligible free time, I have priorities other than you, I have an unstated relationship with the father of my children who I dumped"
Also woman: "And don't even think about sex"
Also also woman: "PLEASE COMMIT TO ME AND GIVE ME EVERYTHING!"
If any of you are on these dating sites, can someone do the following experiment:
Text her with "I see you want a real family, are you happy with formal adoption of your children so that I get equal future parenting rights?"
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Let's give her the benefit of a doubt and say she's not lying deliberately but rather by double standards.
When "strong and independent" women refer to their "career", they usually mean they have a JOB. They pay their OWN bills and aren't on the street, so they deserve a medal as a success.
On the other hand, a man who does those things is merely doing "the bare minimum" or heck, is even viewed as an utter loser unless he's in the investment class.
And that may be why the 40-something men who message her aren't desirable. They're mere losers who only have what SHE does. She wants to practice hypergamy even as she has 2 kids in tow.
The challenge for aging hypergamous women, particularly past their childbearing years (single mother or not), is that there's little benefit or urgency for successful aging men to "commit" to them: 1) No kids for them to build a future together. 2) If he's horny for sex, he's not young and naive to think she's a virgin holding out for marriage.
I think it's amusing from what she writes how the dating pardigm is reversed or as Michael said in The Office: "Well well well, how the turntables"
In their 20's, women could play the tease game: Give her free food and clown entertainment and sink in investment while she toys him around deciding whether to give him sex or not. She can just move on if he gets too anxious about it. She has all of her 20's to think about it!
Now he can expect sex from her while he toys around with any level of commitment, even emotional. She's 38 meaning that in the dating apps, she can still land dates with "stable" 50 something men. Once she's four-zero, it's a whole new ballgame.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago
Oh yeah, she's not lying. She is being absolutely genuinely selfish, demanding and ridiculous.
They are still subsidised by men in many cases. They get preferential treatment for good jobs and are not expected to do difficult or dangerous jobs.
Yes
Yep
Yeah... gotta ask "what's in it for him". Single mother is instant -3 on the desirability scale.
hahah yes. She is genuinely perplexed.
Women have no idea that men value youth and fertility and the opportunity to know our children are our own. Absolutely no idea whatsoever. They think they can just lay out their demands (financial commitment), lay out their boundaries (no sex), and have men throw themselves at their feet.
It's fucking batshit.
Yes.... she probably did this aged 20-30. Most women do.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
"Yes.... she probably did this aged 20-30. Most women do."
In all fairness, doing math, she got pregnant with her first kid at age 26 and had secured a father/husband. She HAD a family. She didn't blow her 20's and overall, from what we know on this forum, did things correctly. She was on a good track.
We don't know the circumstances of her divorce of course, but a few things stand out: 1) She apparently was enough on good terms with the father to have a child with him 5 years ago. 2) He's apparently enough of a catch to get a younger woman in her biological prime after the divorce.
She didn't mention whether he had substance abuse issues, etc. but it is telling that the guy wound up on his feet so quickly. It begs the question whether she merely got "bored" and left him. I have 3 cousins whose wives divorced them for those exact reasons: they had done nothing wrong other than being boring (I grew up with them, I know how boring they are!) but that's not a justification to trash a marriage when she's aging and her ability to land a "stable" man is less than a decade ago.
It's rather refreshing, actually, to see old-style 2nd wave feminism again: The era of women who had married young but then divorcing and trying to trade up somehow like taking your used Camry to the dealer lot hoping to drive a Lexus off the lot.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6d ago
Why do you assume she did things correctly? Could be accidental pregnancy from a one night stand while cheating on her husband. Could be that she kicked the father out of her life because the greener grass of strange cock was calling while she sobs "I love you but I am not IN LOVE with you".
We don't know - and she's not going to tell us.
Yep, and this grates on her soul.
she isn't mentioning her own problems either.
Yeah, it is
That's my guess. Either got bored and left, or she went off sex and drove him away.
I doubt these men were fascinating men who turned boring. They chose boring, and stuck with boring just long enough for the alimony payments to kick in.
haha yep
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
I agree it's an assumption and I'm not going to die on a hill defending it. That said, I've observed with friends plus historical trends: Feminism's initial sexual revolution was women celebrating divorcing their "boring" husbands or freaking out over him not washing a dish left in the sink. Just being bitches and trashing marriages for petty reasons because... well, that's what power is isn't it?
Think about the logic of "strong and independent" women bragging about "intimidating" men. That's not a power flex, it's simply being abusive. I found a word that helps to unsettle their arrogance: Call them "masculine" or better yet, "creepy". Joinks Scooby how they HATE that!
Here's what's funny: She's asking for advice sort of like: "Doctor! I keep hitting my hand with a hammer! Is there a way to stop the pain?"
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1d ago
Yeah. Saw this too..... criticism of good men, demanding equality in washing the dishes.... but then demanding alimony because "that's what's fair and what I'm owed".
It's not abusive or a flex, it's being deeply unattractive and then claiming it as a virtue.
Calling them "creepy" is hilarious, I agree. Creepy means "low status in an undefined way". Because it's undefined, she has no defence against it.
No Karen.... no, there is no way to stop the pain.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Bold of you to assume the husband is the father of both children.
In fact, it isn’t even clear from the post whether or not he is the bio father of even one kid.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
True. I think her tone would be different if she was only married for a few years and how he "recovered" so quickly after the marriage if it was such a short time affair.
I'm saying though that this SOP is what was common with liberated women of previous generations: Getting married and having kids first, then trashing it all out of boredom.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Ah, pattern recognition, how very intelligent of you!
Again, such a display of intelligence! You nailed it!
And that's where you fail the hoe math section of the test. You know what, just keep doing what you're doing, and maybe the universe will send you that perfect man! Kiss all the frogs!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Madam, this is what it looks like. You have correctly identified what it looks like. Your options are somewhat limited at this stage. You best bet is to hope someone really values your friendly, loyal and kind personality and your generosity in bed, sees you ask for nothing but to enjoy his company and so keeps you in his life. Eventually something might grow from such an approach. Men do tend to get fond of kind women.
However, you can't ask for any serious intent up front. You can't expect commitment when you can't offer it yourself. You are already committed to your children. By the time they are grown your fertility will be gone. All you can offer now is the company of someone who has a greater priority. If you accept this and seek only someone who appreciates your company and does not (for whatever reason) want any more, you just might get in by the back door and end up with a man to grow old with.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6d ago
She's almost 40, has two kids....and she's 'looking for a family'. She's wondering what she's 'doing wrong'.
Nothing that a time machine won't fix.
TJMS 6d ago
I think a lot of genuine confusion from women, in these sorts of situations, stems from how the early part of their lives was lived on "easy mode."
They came to expect deferential treatment from men and it didn't even register to them it was contingent on their sexual desirability (like how a fish doesn't realize it's surrounded by water).
Heaviuh_Things 5d ago
Only a woman approaching menopause can understand the truths of relationships as any man can. Until then, it's a world of delusions and solipsism for (most) women....and then we get complaints from them as to why men don't seek out "real, meaningful connections". It's hard to, ladies...when you live in a very different world. The average man has very little in common with the average woman in her reproductive years. Perhaps the woman who posted would prove to be mature enough as a companion at her age, but it's a little too late, isn't it?...
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
The classic here. The ladies only have a chance to become self aware once it’s too late: when they are no longer desirable.
And the men become jaded and cynical right when they become suitable long term material: around 30 after many rejections, failures, and burns inflicted by women.
Sometimes it does feel like God is laughing at us
TJMS 5d ago
If she has minor children living with her, it's almost a given that she won't be a suitable companion for a man. Her priorities place the man near the bottom of her hierarchy.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 5d ago
And such women never do the math and realize that the men they would accept, can do better than them.
And that even being alone falls under that "better" umbrella. Bottom 80% of men learn the hard way that they are not "allowed" to prioritize themselves in a relationship. So why make it worse by getting a relationship where there are kids that are not even your own ahead of you in line? Better off to be alone and at least be one's own top priority.