Maybe this is why men are not hitting on women in the gym.

I had been divorced for about 2 years after being married for 10. I was a member of President’s and First Lady’s Health Club, and I decided to get back into shape. I worked out on certain days and times. Over the months, I recognized people who were on the same work-out schedule as me. I noticed one girl who was working out on the same days and times I was. She was in her late 20’s, about 5 foot 9 or 10”. She was in great shape and pretty.

One day she was working out at a machine about 30 feet from me. There was no one around, so we could talk in private. I thought to myself, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained”, so walked over to her to ask her out. I said these exact words,“ I have seen you work out over the last few months, and you are in great shape and very attractive, and I was wondering if you care to go out sometime?” This is what she said to me in an angry voice. “I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU CAME OVER HERE!” “I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!”. She then stuck her index finger in my face and said,”I DON’T DATE SHORTER MEN. I was in a state of shock. I stopped listening to her, for I was trying to figure out how to save the conversion, and what I had said to make her so angry. It was because I did not meet her height requirements. I also realized I didn’t deserve this BS, so I walked away with her continuing to squack.

A simple and civil “No thank you” would have been sufficient, but she felt compelled to demean me, because I was not worthy to approach her. That a shorter man, (lower value in her mind), would even think he had a right to approach her much less a chance to date her, was something that had to be addressed right then and there. There was no way was she going to allow this transgression to pass; therefore, I had to be put in my place.

She thought her status was above me, much like a slave holder looked down upon a slave or a nobleman looked down upon a peasant. To a heightist, they are better simply because they are taller, and those who are of less stature are valued less as human beings. It is as plain and as simple as that. I was not a tall man, so I was not valued. I was from a lower class of men, thus no respect was given because I had no status. Furthermore, what is even more troubling about her is her response time. She didn’t take any time to think. It was instantaneous, like a reflex, an action without a thought. Which begs the question, in what society would it be acceptable for a woman to not only reject a man, but also insult him for attempting to ask her out? Where is her introspect? Where is the self-examination of her behavior? In her mind, none was needed. Unfortunately this is how most women think. The above actions are not just of heightist women but of women in general. And this can be proved by visiting any on-line dating site where women shamelessly state in no uncertain terms the height of men they will date.

When women say 'we need to bring back XYZ' what they need to understand is Solipsism.

All women have an elevated sense of Solipsism. By that we mean that they view the entire world through their own experience.

So when she says 'nobody is hitting on anyone in the gym any more' what is really happening is that nobody is hitting on HER in the gym. And she misses the attention and validation.

You can switch out 'hitting on people in the gym' with all sorts of things, like

• approaching
• dating
• having kids
• getting married
• having LTRs

etc etc. She thinks none of these things are happening, because none of these things are happening TO HER, ANY MORE.

Even as an “old married dude” who’s been frequenting the same gym for a decade or more, I don’t talk to women there. I have some gym bros that I talk with if we happen to be there at the same time, but women? Nope. I’ll chat with the girls who work there because we actually know each other, but other than exchanging a wave with a couple of the women I see all the time, I rarely interact with any women at all.

I’m acutely aware that I’m not conventionally attractive, so any interaction beyond the most basic pleasantry is a potential problem that I would rather not have to deal with.

Edit: my wife and I go to the same gym, and I swatted her on the backside when she walked past me while I was stretching today, but I don’t think that counts.

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Normally, I don't notice filters this easily. My vision has gone downhill in the last few years, and my phone screen is tiny.

But holy shit, is her use of filters obvious. The fake face looks late 20s, but the neck and decolletage and cleavage all scream mid-50s. Not to mention the different coloration.

So here we are. Men don't notice her IRL anymore, so she seeks her validation online. It won't be real validation, though, due to the filter use.

Female solipsism at its finest.

"Only my wants and needs matter. Why aren't men catering to them? It couldn't possibly be because the last decade+ of shaming 'sub-par' men who dared approach me in public, and telling them I want to be left alone."

So this chick with fake lips and fake tits wants men to waltz up to her in the gym and tell her she looks good.

Sure, maybe if you get a hard-on for Daisy the Duck in a 34E.

"I wanna meet somebody that has a similar lifestyle as me"

No, she wants attention and validation. That is why, by her own admission, she's wearing a skimpy outfit to the gym.

Besides, there's hardly any reason for men to approach at the gym anymore. It's halfway towards getting a harassment complaint filed against you or having some bint record you for a viral tiktok, plus the kind of men who put in the work at the gym can just as easily get women from other sources that don't have these drawbacks. The gym has pretty much become equivalent to the workplace, don't shit where you eat.

For the briefest of moments I thought that this would be a woman appealing to other women to lay off men, but nope. It's another clueless bimbo who thinks men somehow colluded en-masse to arbitrarily stop talking to women for absolutely no reason around 2015 or so.

I know that intelligence is not something that us men traditionally prioritise when picking women, but I kind of feel like at this point, it may be a red flag for a woman to be this oblivious. Like, you really can't fathom ANY reason men might be avoiding women at the gym?

It reminds me of the boomers who can't figure out why people don't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".

She used way too many mouth-sounds to essentially say two words: "Man up." Sure, sweaty, I'm eager to lose my gym membership because she reported me to the front desk for being a creeper.