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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Maybe this is why men are not hitting on women in the gym.
I had been divorced for about 2 years after being married for 10. I was a member of President’s and First Lady’s Health Club, and I decided to get back into shape. I worked out on certain days and times. Over the months, I recognized people who were on the same work-out schedule as me. I noticed one girl who was working out on the same days and times I was. She was in her late 20’s, about 5 foot 9 or 10”. She was in great shape and pretty.
One day she was working out at a machine about 30 feet from me. There was no one around, so we could talk in private. I thought to myself, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained”, so walked over to her to ask her out. I said these exact words,“ I have seen you work out over the last few months, and you are in great shape and very attractive, and I was wondering if you care to go out sometime?” This is what she said to me in an angry voice. “I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU CAME OVER HERE!” “I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT!”. She then stuck her index finger in my face and said,”I DON’T DATE SHORTER MEN. I was in a state of shock. I stopped listening to her, for I was trying to figure out how to save the conversion, and what I had said to make her so angry. It was because I did not meet her height requirements. I also realized I didn’t deserve this BS, so I walked away with her continuing to squack.
A simple and civil “No thank you” would have been sufficient, but she felt compelled to demean me, because I was not worthy to approach her. That a shorter man, (lower value in her mind), would even think he had a right to approach her much less a chance to date her, was something that had to be addressed right then and there. There was no way was she going to allow this transgression to pass; therefore, I had to be put in my place.
She thought her status was above me, much like a slave holder looked down upon a slave or a nobleman looked down upon a peasant. To a heightist, they are better simply because they are taller, and those who are of less stature are valued less as human beings. It is as plain and as simple as that. I was not a tall man, so I was not valued. I was from a lower class of men, thus no respect was given because I had no status. Furthermore, what is even more troubling about her is her response time. She didn’t take any time to think. It was instantaneous, like a reflex, an action without a thought. Which begs the question, in what society would it be acceptable for a woman to not only reject a man, but also insult him for attempting to ask her out? Where is her introspect? Where is the self-examination of her behavior? In her mind, none was needed. Unfortunately this is how most women think. The above actions are not just of heightist women but of women in general. And this can be proved by visiting any on-line dating site where women shamelessly state in no uncertain terms the height of men they will date.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Bro that’s a Black Pill moment if I’ve ever seen one.
Considering how women demand automatic respect from men, it’s quite ironic that they are so disrespectful to men they don’t thirst for.
I treat the gym as a place to better myself, not meet people or girls. Girls are just a distraction there. Especially the skimpy outfit ones.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I approached 4 other women there. 2 turned me down and 2 accepted. One was built like a playboy centerfold, 26, 5'7", 122 pounds, 34DD, 27, 37. So I was batting .500. BTW She looked awesome in a bikini . I have posted this in a few sites, and if I get responses, the most common is from tall men who are shocked women act like this. Tall men never get treated like this. The second most common response is from men my height who have had simiiliar experiences. Think about that. Turned down and insulted. The third most common is from what I would call feminist women. They say I am the problem, not women.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2w ago
When women say 'we need to bring back XYZ' what they need to understand is Solipsism.
All women have an elevated sense of Solipsism. By that we mean that they view the entire world through their own experience.
So when she says 'nobody is hitting on anyone in the gym any more' what is really happening is that nobody is hitting on HER in the gym. And she misses the attention and validation.
You can switch out 'hitting on people in the gym' with all sorts of things, like
etc etc. She thinks none of these things are happening, because none of these things are happening TO HER, ANY MORE.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I think she is stating that No high value men are hitting on her. Which also brings up the fact that average women are not satisfied with average men. Todays women are all queens looking for prince charming.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6d ago
This is indeed a problem. Since only 0.1% of men are 10s, and all women are 10s, there is a great shortage of 'high value men' to go around.
Just so many perfect women, and such a shitty bunch of men. What ever shall we do?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
It’s also important to remember that when she says that we need to bring back men hitting on women at the gym, she only means men that she finds attractive.
If I sauntered up to her while she was doing leg adductors or squats in her skimpy outfit and told her that she was “Looking good,” I doubt she would be thrilled by the attention.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
Even as an “old married dude” who’s been frequenting the same gym for a decade or more, I don’t talk to women there. I have some gym bros that I talk with if we happen to be there at the same time, but women? Nope. I’ll chat with the girls who work there because we actually know each other, but other than exchanging a wave with a couple of the women I see all the time, I rarely interact with any women at all.
I’m acutely aware that I’m not conventionally attractive, so any interaction beyond the most basic pleasantry is a potential problem that I would rather not have to deal with.
Edit: my wife and I go to the same gym, and I swatted her on the backside when she walked past me while I was stretching today, but I don’t think that counts.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
At least a Concerned Karen (tm) didn't take umbrage on your wife's behalf and report you to the front desk.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
In my case it wouldn’t have mattered: I’ve known the owner since he was in high school, and the office girls have known both of us for years. They would have thought it was funny.
When it comes to other women, though, I generally just mind my own business. I live in flyover country, and we haven’t been infected with the madness of the blue coastal states, but I find it easier to not tempt fate.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I have some bad news
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
Done and done.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
Normally, I don't notice filters this easily. My vision has gone downhill in the last few years, and my phone screen is tiny.
But holy shit, is her use of filters obvious. The fake face looks late 20s, but the neck and decolletage and cleavage all scream mid-50s. Not to mention the different coloration.
So here we are. Men don't notice her IRL anymore, so she seeks her validation online. It won't be real validation, though, due to the filter use.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Not only that, the filter is so aggressive that it's glitching the fuck out around her right ear and the dog. I can't wrap my head around how she thought this was convincing enough to post on social media.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Yeah, the rando-blur going on made me think it was just shitty editing to get some watermark out but you're right.
Her cleavage has that middle-age sag where the "part" is all jammed together because those tits are losing that perkyness. And add in the fact that her coloration on the chest is so different from her face I'd agree its filter-city. Funny it missed the finer skin detail below her neck, but even the best filter can only do so much.
She's definitely the kind of woman that would charge a guy for "harrassment" if he was deemed unworthy and approached her.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
And a fuck ton of sun damage. Bet her natural look is more leathery than a designer purse. As I noted in another comment, for all she knows hitting on women at the gym IS back, just not for her. That's reserved for women younger and more natural.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
My 50 y/o wife and I go to the same Planet Fitness gym. She goes on Mon,Wed,Fri and I go on Sun,Tue,Thu while one of us is home with the daughter. She remarks lots of people chat her up while when I go, I perhaps have a friendly but silent relationship of sorts with 3 guys there where we use the same stuff but we don't chat at all.
I chuckle that she says she dresses provocatively but that probably doesn't make a huge difference and, if anything, may ward off attention from men who actually go there to work out for fear she's teasing them trying to get a rise and then scream "Why are you hitting on me!?!?"
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
*cue Dr. Cox ranting about sun damage and ending it with "you look like a purse!"
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I explained to my wife her obsession with sitting in the sun at the beach is a bad fad, like face piercings.
Perhaps it was popularized, I think?, during the 1950's when movies would show rich people in Monaco or teenagers on the beach such as the lovely Annette Funacello, sitting there relaxing in the sun to "get her rays". Keep in mind this was before sunscreen!
This was back when going to a beach was a major event. Normies couldn't afford airline tickets to the coast.
So kind of like caviar and champagne, it was viewed as something for The Rich for women to show off status.
That said, getting Vitamin D via some sun exposure is good for you but 20 minutes at most or basically what you get from being outside for that period of time normally.
TJMS 2w ago
Female solipsism at its finest.
"Only my wants and needs matter. Why aren't men catering to them? It couldn't possibly be because the last decade+ of shaming 'sub-par' men who dared approach me in public, and telling them I want to be left alone."
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
So this chick with fake lips and fake tits wants men to waltz up to her in the gym and tell her she looks good.
Sure, maybe if you get a hard-on for Daisy the Duck in a 34E.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
IKR? For all she knows it is back.
Just not for her. Can't use filters in real life to hide the hag-marks and the cosmetic surgeries that make her look like a blow-up doll someone ordered off Temu.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
It is best NOT to reward her oh so many bad decisions with undeserved attention.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
"I wanna meet somebody that has a similar lifestyle as me"
No, she wants attention and validation. That is why, by her own admission, she's wearing a skimpy outfit to the gym.
Besides, there's hardly any reason for men to approach at the gym anymore. It's halfway towards getting a harassment complaint filed against you or having some bint record you for a viral tiktok, plus the kind of men who put in the work at the gym can just as easily get women from other sources that don't have these drawbacks. The gym has pretty much become equivalent to the workplace, don't shit where you eat.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
I can't count how many times I've had to alter my well-ordered workout because I looked ahead to my next station and saw a woman sitting there, diddling her phone. So I change my routine on the fly and figure I'll double back for that station, only to see her STILL sitting there in her skimpy outfit.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
The number of fat chicks who think weight machines are park benches is staggering. I prefer free weights, but some things are just easier to do with a machine that’s purpose-built to work a particular muscle group. I’ve mentioned before that my shoulder joints are messed up, so for upper body lifts I use machines exclusively to avoid injury.
Just do your sets and move, Becky. (Although I have to admit that some younger guys do it, too.)
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Same here. Free weights and benches are usually plentiful, but for some lifts, I use machines for safety/spotting. I hate having to alter my script because Fatty won't move.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1w ago
My gym has four heavy duty squat racks, and I can count the times I’ve had to wait to use one on the fingers of one hand, with fingers left over. There are two hex bars, but I vastly prefer one over the other, so I have to wait my turn for that occasionally, but not often.
The machines, though. It’s common to have to alter my routine because of people either exercising or loitering. I’m not bothered in the least by people actually lifting: I don’t own the gym, and that gives me a reason to mix up my routine by doing my exercises in a different order. The people who loiter while they’re finger-banging their phones, though? Screw that.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
For the briefest of moments I thought that this would be a woman appealing to other women to lay off men, but nope. It's another clueless bimbo who thinks men somehow colluded en-masse to arbitrarily stop talking to women for absolutely no reason around 2015 or so.
I know that intelligence is not something that us men traditionally prioritise when picking women, but I kind of feel like at this point, it may be a red flag for a woman to be this oblivious. Like, you really can't fathom ANY reason men might be avoiding women at the gym?
It reminds me of the boomers who can't figure out why people don't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
That reminds me, we need a lot more boomer hate around here.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
That shit is retarded.
People can't control what year they were born, and no generation is a monolith.
And I'm saying that as a guy who fell into the cracks between X and millennial.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
On X, there are a number of women screaming: "Why don't you men police the bad, violent men if you don't want us scared of you on dates!!!! NOT ALL MEN is BS!!! YOU ALL need to be SAFE!"
Yet they can't figure out that just a few bad apple women spoil the bunch and it's more than just a few bad apples. This woman herself probably is cruel and nasty towards men she doesn't desire and probably continues to get hit on but dismisses those approaches as irrelevant when saying "men don't approach".
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
I wish there was a group of men whose job was to POLICE society. Perhaps they could go to a special academy for training, have uniforms and identification badges and an easy-to-remember emergency phone number and easily-recognizable vehicles with sirens and flashing lights. And it would be part of their job to enforce the law and deter deviance.
And perhaps this so-called "law enforcement" could have a paramilitary command structure with rankings. Perhaps they could even have the power to detain and arrest law-breakers and issue citations for minor infractions. And the judiciary would put a great deal of trust and deference to these burly "officers of the law" when they testify.
Ahh well, I'm just speaking hypothetically of course! As everybody knows, harassing women in gyms is state policy implemented through the powerful, sprawling Department for Tormenting Hot Chicks. I just wish the paperwork would ease-up. I barely had time to fill-out my Monthly Leering At Brunettes On The Jogging Treadmill Report Form 47-B.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
... Perhaps they could call themselves "The Police"... These men who police society
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
She used way too many mouth-sounds to essentially say two words: "Man up." Sure, sweaty, I'm eager to lose my gym membership because she reported me to the front desk for being a creeper.
SwarmShawarma 2w ago
If she likes pussy, she better woman up and speak to my FWB since I have outsourced it.