Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago Stickied
@Land_of_the_losers I see the link is not working from archive.is for some reason. I just replaced is with ph and it works that way: https://archive.ph/9ju59
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
His link works fine for me, but I'll sticky your reply to the top in case anyone else hits the same issue you did.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
Thanks. Hm. Odd.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
It's working for me now. May have been a load balancer outage.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Arielle Egozi - writer, director, occasional rapper
A she/they creating through the perspective of a first-gen kid of immigrants in a queer body with a neurodivergent mind.
Influences include: 90s skate culture, strippers, brazilian tropicalia, vernacular modernism, mal ojos, girlhood, japanese avant-garde, brutalist web, grief rituals
Her picture: https://freight.cargo.site/w/900/q/75/i/H2237825250707521149008897970780/Arielle-Portrait-1.jpg
And this is the type of...whatever...that women consider to be some kind of relationship expert?
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Yep that’s right
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
For the Salon.com crowd, that's basically spot on.
Throw in a medicine cabinet full of anxiety/depression/bipolar pills, a history of cutting herself with razor blades and a compulsion to swallow shiny pennies, then she could probably write their mental health columns as well.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Having viewed the picture, I am sure this woman has never had a relationship with a normal man. Its just not possible. She can have no experience of ordinary men, so her advice is only theoretical.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
After viewing that pic I now believe its possible to have an aura-septum piercing.
I've seen enough crazy to know that she's right on the edge sliding towards her personal meltdown.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
But here's the thing... she's into indie rock and Nepalese wall-hangings and batik skirts and chocolate-dipped jalapenos at the Soho Bistro. But just because she looks like a flighty, impulsive, artsy-fartsy, 'creative' type of woman, doesn't mean she still doesn't lust after a Chad.
That's right, the kind of beer-chugging, blonde, macho dudebro frat boy-athlete who exists at the center of Salon.com's toxic masculine demonology? She got her fair share of his sperm in college, too. Yeah, she'll rationalize it "It's my patriarchal programming!" she'll try to cover it up "I was drunk and it was dark!" ...but her turn-ons are the same as a blonde FOX News airhead that she claims to be intellectually superior to.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
A good recap of the alternative or niche sexual market place. These are girls that are average/unnoticed/attention starved compared to the cheerleaders/prom queens. They die their hair, get piercings and tattoos to look edgy and create their own SMP. Think of a twitch gamer girl, probably was a 3 or 4 in high school, get a new edgy look and an Xbox, now she’s getting attention from guys. But they end up resenting the attention they get from most men, they still desperately want Chad’s attention. AWALT. Of course all this comes with daddy issues and bpd.
With that said, here is the story of Christine- the cool girl from a now defunct blogger.
“Those other girls aren’t real.”
Christine went to great lengths to convince someone that she wasn’t like those other girls. Her experiences had greater depth, her thoughts were more developed, her interests were more artistic, and her feelings were more genuine. Christine had esoteric qualities that made her special and unique, while those other girls were basic and shallow. Christine also had a bigger waist and fatter thighs than those other girls.
She wasn’t fat, but Christine was conscious of her limitations and adjusted accordingly. If she couldn’t compete with those other girls, Christine would attempt to hijack and redefine what it meant to win and then try to convince men that what they thought they wanted was all wrong.
The blonde cheerleader with the big chest wasn’t cool like Christine. She didn’t like indie music, nor artsy movies, she didn’t read interesting novels, she didn’t have an ironic taste in fashion, nor would she be happy having a night-in drinking beers and playing Mario Kart. She wasn’t real, and Christine was; real is what you should want.
The results weren’t very interesting. Christine was able to be promiscuous with high-value men who probably would have fucked her anyway regardless of her advertised depth. She had beta-orbiters who masturbated her unique identity, but probably would have orbited her anyway. And, she had doofus boyfriends who respected her esoteric thoughts and opinions, but probably would have liked her regardless.
Christine thought she needed to leverage authenticity, in the form of a meticulously sculpted identity, to compensate for not being as aesthetically competitive as higher-value women. Christine thought that with enough salesmanship and authentic performance, she could trick the high-value male interested in her for easy sex to relinquish his commitment.
https://killtoparty.com/2016/02/16/sexual-strategy-and-identity/
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
"A friend" of mine once may have noticed that the more artsy-fartsy or "strong and empowered" a woman is, the more likely she is absolutely into sex from a man that dominates her to the point of abuse. That they will confess fantasies about things like rape and being choked while one is a captive audience in a car ride with them or at their houses or during a meal without one prompting them to tell one such things. Never had the same issues crop up with more "trad" coded women or at least not to the same severity.
Maybe it's because they got their kicks off of patriarchal authority elsewhere already so didn't need it in the bedroom as badly or something. I don't know. I mean, "my friend" didn't know. Yeah.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
I knew a girl once who's father was a pastor and raped her and she had a kid by him. Her boyfriend would tell me shit like she wants to be punched in the face during sex, and that she loved to be spanked HARD. Freaky little bitch.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
My theory about that is the nagging need to cleanse oneself of guilty urges drives a person to go on witch-hunts elsewhere. Sometimes the biggest homophobes are acting-out on the fear that they are closet cases themselves.
TJMS 2w ago
If gender roles were reversed, the woman would have been entitled to the dude's (male stripper's?) income, else he isn't being supportive, generous, giving, fully committed, etc.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
It sounds to me-- and the columnist is too polite to use the word-- the "financial abuser" has become something like a pimp.
So why does she stick around? It's not stated anywhere, but I'm willing to bet that he has some pretty good drugs on tap. Either that, or his charming sense of humor.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
Hell it sounds to me that the stripper cum supplicant seeking alms and advice has "dated" a series of pimps and isn't willing to admit it. That's part of the problem with sex work. It devalues their sexuality from a long term transaction that isn't easily replaced, to something that is short term and easily replaced. Sure, the short term sex transactions come with a hefty upfront premium paid out, but that comes at a long-term cost that she's now running face-first into.
And she's shacking up with men that are treating her accordingly. She should have instead saved up that easy money and dumped it into investments to replace the lack of male investment she has effectively chosen by being a sex worker.
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TJMS 2w ago
Drugs could definitely explain it.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
@Land_of_the_losers When women sometimes tell stories, they seem cut and dried don't they? "I want some advice, there's this guy whose a jerk and I'm a perfect person and yet I don't know if I should leave him or not. What do you think?"
I chuckle that the SJW's ideologically cluttered response may only confuse the stripper rather than provide clarity to leave him. Imagine her trying to regurgitate all this SJW jive in an H/meth drug-hazed state.
Here we are, the last people she'd probably think to ask for advice have a better understanding of her situation than the SJW does. She doesn't "work hard" for the money, it's an easy way to make a lot of cash because most other women find it socially stigmatizing so it pays well for little effort. If stripping was as reputable as being a waitress, few decent looking women would be waitresses.
We know that the guy is doing something for her.
It's a cliche that strippers either have daddy issues or whacked out on drugs. It's possible he's a good looking Chad. If this SJW really cared about her (rather than using her as a use-case for her Patriarchal-Oppressor agenda), she'd advise her to figure out what reason she's staying with the guy and weigh how much he's worth versus the hassle of being with him.
And yeah, like with Tony Soprano telling Tracee, the stripper the The Bada Bing, an abortion would probably be a good idea at this point.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
In aggregate (because they're all over the place on multiple topics) the authors at Salon.com normally tend to make it clear that they're against morally judging strippers or "sex workers", but they absolutely will judge the hell out of the buyers. They don't wanna get rid of the stigma, just redistribute it.
This came out very clearly in their reactions to the Duke 2006 lacrosse team rape hoax. We were not to cast moral aspersions onto the mentally-ill stripper. But the lacrosse players were sexist degenerates because of the damning fact that THEY HIRED A STRIPPER!! Which there is nothing wrong in BEING, of course. But to SEE one? Oh my gosh, the sexism...
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Sounds like a mismatch. Honestly I can't see why a man would date a stripper, let alone impregnate one (unless by accident casually)? This looks like trouble.
Its almost a non interest story from a red pill point of view -couple disagree over spending but this time its the man who sounds less reasonable. However, then you get down to the "abuse" section in the advice where the writer says its a "dangerous dynamic" and suggests escape plans and gives a link to the domestic abuse hotline. This assumption is frankly verging on the criminal and its a huge problem in today's society.
"Man wants partner to go halves on things she is not that keen on" is not abuse, its a mismatch. Either it needs re-negotiation or splitting but to assume potential abuse creates a very risky dynamic for the relationship itself.
These days the moment a woman hints possible abuse the only thing a man can do for his own protection is bug the hell out of that relationship. Now sometimes its a good idea but other times they really just needed a grown up chat about what they think the priorities are and about boundaries. So you can make an unborn chid fatherless and make the mother very unlikely to ever put the kid in contact because of the imaginary "abuse" (that every man she gets with does) or you can have a grown up chat about it being her (very easily made) money. Its not equal work but it is her money, so its not his business. Default liberal answer -do the damage to the kid. Protect women from their own inability to have adult conversations.
I have never had a relationship with a woman in which she has not just about monthly wanted me to buy outright something for the house that I did not want to personally buy. Its not usually that much but its just normal that people have different ideas and women certainly naturally think that what is yours is hers. What is needed is people not to be butt hurt about boundary assertions. Ironically, I have always been wary about always refusing to spend on everything women want. According to the Duluth model of abuse (which the courts have adopted) if you do not have access to the other's money in a a relationship it is abuse! so she would be abusing hm! I have seen lawyers adverts on this "Housewives, if you don't have access to cash on demand in a relationship, it may be abuse. Hire us to take your husband to court"
As an aside, I would never recommend dating any woman who makes money easily. She does not value real work, she does not know the value of money. Women are bad enough with shared money when they work hard.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
"Honestly I can't see why a man would date a stripper, let alone impregnate one (unless by accident casually)?"
I went to a strip club about 4X in my life for bachelor parties and a night out with the guys. I found them to be rather sad, depressing places rather than the "fun" they're portrayed as. Aside from men such as myself out for a night of being at a strip joint for the above reasons, the other men appeared rather sad and lonely being emotionally extorted by the DJ blaring around reminders every 5 minutes to "TIP THE LADIES GENEROUSLY!!!" and the fake smiles of the strippers trying to generate emotional connection to extract more in tips. I got a shower immediately upon getting home and washed my clothes to get their moral filth off of me.
Just like with OnlyFans, men emotionally falling for them is the primary business profit model. I really feel sorry for Butters in this scene: https://youtu.be/t5gQgxhH-aY?t=45 But to his credit, look at his growth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOf1AS4Q9Tk
Strippers are probably the most emotionally mercenary of sex workers.
You know what I'm saying?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
I'm going to lazily copy and paste from our discussion about this article in the chat: