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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4w ago
First off, I see plenty of comments on her own appearance. Fair enough, since she brought up looks in the first place. I recall someone in history warning that if you judge others, you will be judged by the same standard. I don't think she is the ugliest woman ever, but I am not seeing her as a gold standard for looks either.
Second, I think women highly overstate how many "beautiful" and "gorgeous" women there are. At the very least, they are far more lenient on women and far more critical on men. Just remember these things when men are accused of being shallow when it comes to looks. Men may judge on looks, but the criteria is often far more lenient than we are given credit for. For many men, a "good enough" standard is applied where a man will be happy to have a relationship with a woman who passes all his requirements for looks, even if just barely doing so. Women may eventually settle for a man who does not quite meet her inflated standards for physical appearance, but she will often not be happy in the end. Rather, she will resent the man she ends up with for something he did not really even do (not be as attractive as a previous man she wanted). This mindset is far more damaging to relationships than men's supposed "shallowness" with looks.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
Note I chose the "shallow hala" filename for a reason: In that film, Jack Black, a chubby short guy is frustrated he can't pull hot club skanks so a hypnotist makes it "easy" for him by making him visualize pretty much ANY woman as hot including an astonishingly obese woman, portrayed by Ivy Snitzer with ADDITIONAL fat bodysuit put on. https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2023723/rs_1024x759-230823145314-shallowhal.jpg
That's right: Jack Black's looksmatch was literally the most obese woman we could imagine for the film because if he had fallen in love with an unaltered Ivy Snitzer, that wouldn't have been considered a huge stretch for us men.
There's much attention given to Pierce Brosnan whose wife, Keely Shaye Smith, put on weight after the kids and it's not a big deal to him. When some troll on X posts: "Here's why you don't get married" flame bait, the harpies screech: "See how ALL MEN are so shallow?"
Gondola_the_Observer 1mo ago
Girl, you're the wrong messenger.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ.
This is another one in the X backlog. Enjoy.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
Lemme guess: she fucked a hawt dude five months ago and now she only deserves hawt men.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Gumby-faced slumpbuster fails to grasp that the dudes willing to date her without getting laid on the first date are her actual level.
Someone that looks like an extra plainfaced version of Anne Hathaway with a q-tip shaped head (and that's with makeup slathered on) has no business being picky about looks in men.
I look forward to her future as an Olive Oyle cosplayer with great disinterest.
If an "ex" leaks porn tapes of her, I won't be surprised if it is only scenes from the back.
At least with a fat girl that has a decent face you can break her self esteem and get her to stop overeating. The fuck can you do with this bitch?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Pump and dump.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
That's the point of the filename I chose for streamable: "Shallow Hala".
Feminism taught women they needn't "settle". She wants to be a CEO or astronaut? Then if she's not, it's due to OPPRESSION! MEN are astronauts and CEO's so why can't EVERY woman who wants that also have it?
When women don't encounter direct rejection in the form of going up to someone and being told to go away because you're "bothering" them combined with the notion of "princess" doing NOTHING but emulating a piece of furniture while men should make "effort", they can't imagine actually changing themselves to make happiness attainable. If she can't sleep on a bed because there's a pea underneath it, then she's going to have to die of sleep deprivation.
There's no other choice, don't you see?
We take it for granted, as men, the concept of stoicism: To not only find ways to accept discomfort, to be happy with less, to find contentment on our own without someone providing it for us, and so on but to these women it's an utterly alien concept like children's books "Quantum mechanics for babies".
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
Both inside relationships and in workplaces as well.
For (most of) my female co-workers who grew up in western cultures, when they go into a workplace, one of the questions on their mind always seems to be "How can everything here change to make me comfortable?"
It's not "How can I fit in better?" or "How can I make myself more valuable to the organization?" or "What area can I specialize in?" No. It's "How can this place change to fit ME and MY whim." Apparently, making yourself indispensable or an important contributor is not nearly as good for your career as being a pain in the ass who needs to have meetings about disputes with coworkers every few months.
And if changing a place to suit ONE person is done at the expense of everybody else, too bad for everybody else. And the next year, if some OTHER complaining harpy wants to change the organization AGAIN because of the other harpy's new rules, too bad for everyone again.
I had one of these chicks sit in the cubicle next to me for a few years and I pretended to be interested in what she had to say, politely offering occasional agreement as appropriate, and professional business-only talk the rest of the time. I did so out of self-preservation, knowing that I had to watch what I said and what I did around her. As a result of walking the tightrope of gently playing to her biases, I managed to get spared her wrath. But, yeah, as her final bridge-burning act, she ended up publishing something in the organization's journal about how the place ought to change to suit women-- with "women" being a stand-in for what she thought. As for the Japanese women there who'd quietly soldier-on, they needed her to speak for them.
She even thanked me for my "support" on her last day. I truly felt like a master of disguise.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Were you turtle-y enough for the Turtle Club?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
No, I actually wasn't.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Me neither.
Though with how terrible that movie looked (never saw it), I'm glad!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
I never saw it, I just saw the movie poster in Honolulu with some Chinese accountant chick I flew in to bang.
Also, I banged Overikill_Engine's mom at the same time. She said hi.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I did a similar thing where I was determined to be the social butterfly and I asked myself EVERY time I opened my mouth: "Is this going to help me?" and kept it shut if it didn't.
It has worked WONDERFULLY.
One of the ultra Hillary supporters is my best buddy. She told me "You utterly lack guile" and I did NOT rush to correct her. What's interesting is the social momentum: When a chick sees you are popular with other chicks, including the tough ones, the whole room melts. I also find personal peace in just accepting them as they are.
What's interesting in this era now of the term "looksmaxxing" being a thing and men now not only understanding women but women even STILL think us men don't "get" them. RP's next step will be Chad no longer sleeping around with them but actually monetizing it.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Get rid of filters and makeup, and suddenly there are a lot of unattractive women out there.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Yeah without makeup this one would fail to reach the below average tidemark she is at now.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0
Now lookit that pretty boy. That's the way you do it. Lookin' good on a TikTok feed. That ain't workin'. That's the way you do it. Upvotes for nothin', Hearts and stars for free.
That ain't workin'. That's the way you do it. Lemme tell ya, them guys ain't dumb. They leanin' back smilin’ at a camera. Then collect a hundred up thumbs.
And now I sit in the parking lot, yappin', White sittin' in the drivers' see-ee-ee-yeat. I gotta yap through this steerin' wheel, I gotta yap with a Starbucks teeeaaaaaa...
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
That little skank wants her own jet airplane
That little skank has a thousand cock stare
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I want my
I want my
I want my likes for free
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Have a free like on me.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Damn, she looks like THAT and thinks most men are unattractive? And also finds most women attractive? Someone tell her to come out of the closet.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
In 1984, women join "the anti-sex league" and enthusiastically become a-sexual engaging in the act only for procreation purposes.
More of these videos and posts on X suggests to me that cultural phenomenon I observed back in the late 1980's of feminist/"girl power" culture telling women to be apathetic about marriage later led to sex itself: Relationships with men need to be utterly transactional as defined by the Eff Dee Ess manual:Women should ONLY engage in hypergamy relationships even if she'd be better off marrying "down". Women will shun and shame each other if the man they are with doesn't increase her status at his expense.
Unlike (actual) wealth, intelligence, and of course character, looks conveys status immediately when a woman walks into a room. It's amusing that so-called women's "liberated" has led to them being slaves of a matriarchal social regime.
So yeah, as you said, it appears they've becoming a bunch of dead-bedroom lesbians. She finds women attractive but she doesn't want to have sex with them.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
You keep going by the blue pilled definition of hypergamy, which only focuses on the beta bucks side of it.
There's still the alpha fucks side of hypergamy, which women will do by instinct. The man has to be taller, stronger, better than her in every way (or if equal or lesser in some ways, so much better in others to make up for it).
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I didn't convey fully the idea that women also became hypergamous on looks because a man's wealth was no longer impressive to other women (merely a requirement, but nothing to actually reward a man for providing) because a man taller than her, or exceptionally taller, would convey status to women without saying a word.
For all a woman knows when a woman walks in a room with a tall guy, he could be a millionaire PhD or a plumber but looks is something every woman in the room can see.
I recall the plump Denny's manager telling me in bed "Men in the locker room are BSing you that you need to have a pretty girl on your arm to impress them". That's what THEY do to each other Re us, but us men don't do that because we have a bro code going on that we don't diss another man's kind wife/girlfriend to his face or even behind his back. At least that was my social circle.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
They always have been, and on more than just looks. Alpha/arousal is based on far more than just looks, and beta/comfort is based on far more than just provision.
And women have always been hypergamous all around, but their instinctive, internal calculus has been broken by the newfound (relatively newfound, at least) freedom of the last hundred years or so.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
As I'm sure you read from me before, it's my contention that aside from the era of primordial rutting, women didn't choose their mates but rather it was decided by the society. I had an argument with Grok about it who finally acknowledged that even in tribal communities where the elder women had input, the women themselves didn't "choose" their mates.
"Rutting" choices are not based upon provisioning since there were either communal resources or single mothers raising children on their own so they would choose based upon his dominance or even convenience (like an alley cat.)
The protected status of women today in developed nations is essentially like giving children their trust fund at the age of 14 and they'll blow it on fancy cars, partying, and candy.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Try smiling.
I know it's difficult when you're an awful bitch, but just give it a try.
You aren't exactly stunning, lass. You have a somewhat pretty face, but you look like you spend your time at the gym just barely walking on the treadmill.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
Apparently, that's the most threatening thing that anybody could EVER say to a woman. Or so they tell me.
Me, I have a somewhat mediocre imagination, but I'm certain that I could think of something WAY worse than "You look good when you smile." And it wouldn't have to be blatant like "I will club you to death and eat your flesh," it could be a lot more ambiguously menacing. Maybe followed by "...and I know where you live." That sounds a hell of a lot more unsettling than "you have such a good smile."
I dunno. I had peers call me "faggot" while hurling a Nerf football at my face when I was 15-- and that hurt like a sonofabitch-- so "Try smiling" seems pretty weak for a threat. Then again, I'm not a good-looking woman, so I don't know how agonizing everyday life would be.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
In corp America I saw a woman manager who always seemed depressed so I said to her, with kindness, please smile as a way to show affection. I would have done the same for a man.
I didn't know, at the time, that apparently a LOT of men do the same for women and this is the latest thing they were griping about such as the "oppression" of men holding open doors and such.
She then got this scowl and told me "Please don't ask me that any more" and I didn't.
She apparently held this grudge and hatred for me for years after that including when I was at a vendor event years later and spotted her at the bar, she noticed me and looked away and had this general scowl reappear.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
It sounds like she had a crush on you!
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
They're approaching the hot fucking women for a night of Hide-the-Salami, but you wouldn't know anything about that Ms. Three-at-Best with the resting bitch face.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
Did anyone notice that her tits are haning so low that they are actually out of shot?
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4w ago
You were not the only one to notice.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Do your tits hang low?
Do they wobble to and fro?
Can you tie them in a knot,
Can you tie them in a bow?
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
There is so much of this fem created content around at the moment, and it all hinges on a theme, and the theme is this;
"all men are ugly. The women are fine af, there are so many hot women around, my friends are all 10s, but the guys are just so ugly and un-attractive"
The classic was that hammerhead shark chick that started the 'epidemic of chopped men' video viral.
If I were her friend, I would ask her an honest question... 'what is your body count?'
Because that is the common denominator.
The truth is this: this is an epidemic of women that are burnt out of because they have simply had too much dick. They have slept with too many random men, and are now experiencing burn out.
There is nothing wrong with the dudes. The guys are the same as they ever were - a bell shaped curve of attractivness. Same with the women.
But women that have slept with 50 plus guys? They have lost their sense of wonder. They have slept with too many men, and every single interaction has resulted in romantic failure. Because they have had too many hook ups, they start to realise that the future is just a repeat of the past - pump and dump, smash and dash, get railed get ghosted.
Men seem to understand that what is good for you and what you want might be two seperate things. I like to eat doghnuts and sit on the sofa, but its not good for me. These chicks think that 'putting it out there' is a good thing, and will lead to growth and empowerment .
in reality, it just means they hit the wall harder and faster. The woman in this video looks to be about 25, but she has already smashed into the wall because;
1 she is no longer attracted to men (had too much dick) 2 the men that she might want, will not want her.
The future is bleak for her. Already washed up at 25? Damn, got to feel sorry for her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
It's not just that: I think women have this hivemind thing going I see even in my daughter. They LOVE being around other women, like we do here, but unlike us where we tolerate and even encourage dissent they strive for conformity. They don't want to offend their friends by disagreeing with them like we do. We, as men, can disagree and respect each other for it.
My wife even does this: "She's beautiful!" she tells me. I tell her that her friend is pleasant but beautiful? Well, no. But women don't want to risk alienating each other.
So this causes them to start eating each others' dog food. ALL women are beautiful and ALL men are plain and need to "earn" all "gorgeous" women's validation.
I'm reminded of the 1980's witch hunts (yes, there really were!) and other mass hysteria events. As Chef in South Park put it when Boy Bands were on the rise, if you pay a bunch of women to scream then pretty soon all of them are screaming.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Yep, as I've quoted here before: "Comparison is the thief of joy." I think it starts way earlier than 50. For a wife, any n-count > 0 leads to a large decrease in self-reported "happiness" in marriage.
You know those little animals that "imprint" when they see their mothers for the first time? That's what women are like with sex. A woman can theoretically "move past" that to another man, but the instincts and pair-bonding will never quite match up again.
Another analogy that just struck me: You know liches? They seek eternal life by taking their soul and putting it into a phylactery, and then hiding it. Yes, I'm a nerd. But a woman splits her soul into 50 pieces and distributes them among 50 different men. She ends up soulless - a miserable, solitary, undead husk. The only feelings she has are bitterness, envy, and anger. None of those men "stole" anything from her - she willingly entrusted to each phylactery a part of her soul, but she cannot control them and so she hates them. And unlike the lich, a woman doesn't get anything in return. No eternal beauty or life or anything.
I'm notoriously bad at analogies, so take these with a large grain of salt.
I feel sorry for every single woman on here. Almost none of them will ever fulfill the twofold purpose of a woman. Almost all of them will forever remain wooden Pinnochio dolls that never got the chance to become Real Girls (lol another bad analogy, sorry).
TJMS 1mo ago
It's partly a numbers thing, but also: Women's expectations for men are skewed because they can always have a casual hook-up with a Chad. This is the filter through which they view and rate men.
It's like the "most people (in general) are ugly" phenomenon that's happening, because constantly online people are constantly exposed to the above-average-attractive celebrities and social influencers, making actually average people seem ugly by comparison.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
" they can always have a casual hook-up with a Chad."
They can, until they can't. At a certain age (comes sooner than they think) the competition from younger women is just overwhelming. Even a beautiful 34 year old woman is overshadowed by a plain looking 21 year old, because fertility is always the winner in the mating game.
It's when the chad interest starts to dwindle that they really go insane. Like, actually mad.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
@TJMS @NotaBene I'll add that hookups or sex with Chad aren't necessary. It's surprising to us, as men, that women appear to get validation from tons of men on dating apps but even the PERCEPTION they can walk into a bar or dating app and get hits, yes?
This PERCEPTION they have, as well as what they hear from others plus see on social media (and note that it's not inaccurate) drives them to the woman-logic that they are "hot" so Chad is therefore "normal".
I chuckle in that this was what men who look at too much 'spicy content', as some would say, happens: That they get their dopamine burned out and can't bang their wives or normal women anymore. This happens to a FEW men relatively, but those men at least KNOW this is NOT normal and what's going on while the women are utterly unaware of it. To Shallow Hala, most men REALLY are "ugly".
There was this funny joke on Seinfeld about the ugliness of normal people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-a64OwOYqU
I posted a female incel, from an incel group, a year ago who was obviously aware she's that ugly but griping the "ugly" men who gave her attention weren't making enough "effort". Utterly hilarious. It's like a man living in his mother's basement complaining the chicks willing to sleep with him aren't cooking him a homemade dinner!
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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4w ago
Point of order: practically speaking, "female incel" isn't a thing. If all a woman wants is sex she'll find a man willing to supply it to her. He likely won't be the man from whom she most wants it but there will be a buyer available.
The more accurate term, as coined by our very own @lurkerhasarisen, is inspin, short for involuntary spinster.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
Happy Friday! I argue similar for most supposed "incel" men: it's not as easy or convenient for women, but most men CAN get laid if they buy cheap airfare to someplace with legal brothels, game single mothers, or bang MILF's. How do I know? Well, I did all three!
The key is that all three of the above are obviously NOT normal "romantic" relationships in the modern parlance of 'dating for fun", having sex, and then after a while saying "Ok, time to get married now because we are so right for each other". That's the NORMAL relationship arc that most people think is the ONLY one. Granted, there's gaming club skanks but that's really only for someone whose somewhat decent looking who has nothing else better to do with his time.
I found women who classified themselves as Incels and supposedly the origin of the term and you're correct: These women technically aren't incels but just angry they can't score men out of their league with no effort.
I would add that even most inspins technically can get married^H^H^H^H^H^Hcommitment if they (gasp!) lower their "standards" and/or put a (little) (gasp!) effort in.
TJMS 1mo ago
Yeah, and apparently women tell each other they're all 10's now, so how could any man not be ugly by comparison?