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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 4w ago
A single woman in her 30s........... its that last part.........in her 30s.........
It's almost as if women do not understand the basics of sexual attraction any more. Romantic attraction is based on the dream of reproduction. That is the magic ingredient that has meant that women and men have always been attracted to each other, throught time.
When a woman says 'in her 30s' she means late 30s. Fertility is severely limited.
And she is wondering why men with options are not considering her as an option?
my god. She needs to study biological reality.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4w ago
I try to explain it to them this way. When they say: "Older women are perfectly healthy! Most of us hot independent boss babes are in better shape than you loser guys in that age range!" "So sure, our fertility is off compared to our 20's but so is yours!" "So what if a woman isn't perfect! She is still viable"
I then simply retort back to them:
"A 5'5" guy who works out and has a good, average-paying job is a perfectly viable mate too. He's even a catch for someone in our grandmothers' generation but... you would consider him a loser. You want someone BETTER than that in all ways. Now consider a 5'10" guy with a degree and good job AND time on his hands to pick a mate and a harem of women. Why should he pick a "viable" woman over a younger one who even earns just as much as the middle aged boss babe does? It's not like there's a shortage of them!"
That shuts them up.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 4w ago
5"10??? Why would any kweeeeen settle for such a manlet? When there are so many 7 foot men available ??? are you crazy???
Can you imagine, as a woman, going to an event, with your 5"10 dwarf, and you meet Becky from high school, and her man is 7 foot? The SHAME!!!!!
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
Does she not know that every single man that she has ever been pumped and dumped by was down-dating?
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Why would a man value a woman's career when the odds are, she will want him to pay all the bills anyway, unless she is looking to enter into a DINK (Double Income/No Kids) relationship, her income is worthless to him, the only financial aspects most men value in women are good financial responsibility and ideally free of debt.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
Listen, PLEASE post this and if you can, go through the backlog and post those too! Do it every 2 days if possible. It will drive traffic here!
I'd like to thank your tech overlords and AI on X for providing me this wonderful feed of aging meltdowns in almost real time. Imagine, millions of them getting indexed and catalogued by AI and noticing that I bookmark them. "Here's another one, human!" it helpfully offers.
"We're not gonna make it, are we? People, I mean" -- John Conner, Terminator 2
Bozza 1mo ago
you know you can just sign up with another email?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That depends on how badly they (reddit admins) want you gone.
Fellow WAATGM mod Sir Kolbath (don't recall if it's hyphenated, underscored, whatever at the moment) tried to come back after a permanent suspension, and they played Whack-A-Mole with each of his attempts within minutes.
Considering the circumstances under which they permanently suspended PK, they wanted him gone pretty badly.
That's partly why I haven't bothered trying to go back.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1mo ago
I would do my part if I wasn't already solo modding TRP
I can't afford to risk a ban
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battlestation"
It's astonishing that even posting what appears to be utter innocuous content to The Platform That Cannot Be Named risks a ban. It has led to an inability to get content posted there.
I shall see what.I can do. For example: I have friends in Poland who are covered under EU law who, if they get an unfair ban, can make or threaten legal action and they can perhaps be our posters on that site. Working on it...
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Quality classic Star Wars quote.
Glad I have a high-rez digital archive of that from the original print before Lucas messed with it in his "edits". Watched it with my dad, who is gone, so I always had a good memory of it that I didn't want corrupted by CG inserts and other fuckery.
I don't even bother with the-other-site-of-idiots anymore, besides all their content was hoovered up in the great AI scraping/training cycle we've been through so unfortunately their leftward taint is in a bunch of AI model weights now.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Wait. Are we literally not supposed to name it?
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1mo ago
I think @poloshknight was just having a bit of fun. As far as I know there's nothing stopping you from mentioning reddit nor any reason you should abstain from doing so.
Personally, I prefer to call it feggit, both because it's more accurate and it's funny.
Bozza 1mo ago
This one is great.
It's not just WAATGM? But also a blue pill doesn’t understand WAATGM?
Why wouldn't they love her achievements?
I bet the "achievements" aren't even achievements.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Even men who haven't unplugged from the Gynocentric Matrix look for mostly the same things out of instinct.
A woman's education, career, etc doesn't make her any more attractive.
That, and many men are starting to see glitches in the Matrix, and know that as women's education and earnings increase, so do their demands.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
The Groucho quote illustrates that such women do NOT want men who are TOO turned on by her degree because then he's a "loser" mooch who expects her, gasp!, to perhaps pay for things!
On Millionaire Matchmaker, Patti tries to coach "strong and successful" women to be more "feminine" and allow men to pay her way because masculine men find happiness in paying the bills. I personally do not find it masculine to pay for things but I think this is what women shame men with (one tried to do that with me, I laughed in her face) and think that if they become even more shrill and demanding, real men ought to find that desirable.
I have a WATGMA post for next week lined up to discuss the paradox of the expected hypergamy of ultra successful women is so fragile: A man who should outearn her and WANT to marry down, but not TOO much lest he not be interested in her at all.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Yeah getting tossed some DEI bones doesn't count as achieving anything.
And even if she actually put in the same work/effort as a man for the same reward, a man still cannot fuck her degree, and her high-status career cannot bear children.
Almost like men are looking for some specific things from women and the above are not valid substitutes.
TJMS 1mo ago
Does she realize that if men didn't "date down" (as she puts it), then none of the men she's interested in would date her?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Women: only attracted to men who are superior people to them in every way, measurable or immeasurable.
Also women: mystified when they are not treated as an equal.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
This concept deserves to be a WATGMA article. I have another post here from a similar woman above coming up for weekday content.
They are struggling with this concept, obviously. They REQUIRE men to ‘date down’ but NOT to someone else. When men on X laugh at highly educated aging women winding up alone, these women (speciously) claim that powerful men don’t want or marry waitresses.
It just occurred to me, right now, how utterly misogynistic and classist these professional women are: That succe$$ful men don’t want “bimbos” as housewives. I’m going to have SO much fun responding to those posts from them in the future!
My wife picked up on this when she first came to the states and waited tables or clerked that bourgeoise American women were rude to her. I didn’t mind this in that I didn’t want her cozying up to these crab-bucket denizens anyhow.
For the record, while it doesn’t necessarily happen often, it does happen. Matt Damon fell for and wifed up a bartender while chatting with her during a shoot. It’s tough to document or procure a study from Grok because rich guys rarely state “I married a store clerk” but rather just say how they met and now she’s a housewife.
The way these women WANT hypergamy to work is for the man to be turned on by her… degree and certifications but NOT so much (ick!) he is a level BELOW her. Just a few below him so she “feels” like he’s a good “provider” while recognizing she’s “independent” so she doesn’t have to respect him.
This is actually common in the middle classes where men I chatted with said they didn’t want to risk alimony in case of divorce. If she’s in your same social class but beneath you, she recognizes what a hassle divorce would be if assets were split since the middle class needs two healthy incomes to survive nowadays. Kind of like MAD where you both hold keys to the ICBM.
THAT is what modern “love” is like in the post-feminist west.
And truth be told, if the majority of men were billionaires so there was no shortage of supply, this woman above wouldn’t mind if they married a waitress. She wouldn’t mind marrying Elon Musk. It ONLY disgusts her because she’s slowly realizing that if the rare supply of successful men don’t mind marrying down for looks or submission, then SHE is going to get left behind.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I wonder if the "omg I'm getting old" impulse is being subverted into "more school == more desireable" direction, so they think if they continuously pile into career achievements and schooling, surely that will make up for their fading beauty.
I don't think they'll actually come out and ADMIT it, but I do wonder if there is some displaced drive here that is pushing it, beyond "The Message" that got amplified over the past few decades of the boss girl trend.
Its like how women with no children try to substitute pets so they don't go completely crazy with nothing to nurture in their lives.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
She wants to be a childless power-couple?
If so, I guess that's fine. She should just come-out and say so.
DaddyHarem 1mo ago
As a wealthy man who no longer works, I specifically dont even bother with women with careers or degrees. To me that makes them low quality. Also makes them a mismatch since i dont work much anymore and im not going to be some house husband.
Some average girl who grew up on a farm or something, stays home to care for grandma... etc is high value and the kind of girl I seek out and put effort. If they have a career, I expect them to put the effort to woo me because I have zero interest outside of x with that kind of woman.