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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago Stickied
Right on schedule! "LoOkInG tO sEtTlE dOwN!"
How's that working out for you? You go, gurl!
I suspect an Indian woman, likely 2nd or 3rd generation from the immigrants to the US or Canada or the UK, who like many such women love the western party life from 16 (or younger) up through the Epiphany Phase, who then try to go back to the tradition of their culture and have their parents arrange a marriage.
Yeah, much like how men of the West have caught on to the shitty deal offered by post-Epiphany, leftover women, men of Indian descent are leery of women suddenly interested in "traditional" marriage after the "Party Years" are over.
LOL!
1) she's likely annoying or otherwise insufferable
2) men have wised up
Yeah, men don't want to spend the rest of their lives paying to rent something other men got to use for free, back when it was more fun and better quality.
Cock Carousel Rider detected!
Cock Carousel Rider confirmed!
LMAO. I fucking nailed it on the Indian woman. Tag @ogrilla99 you'll enjoy this one!
In case he doesn't see the tag before the post gets archived and comments disabled, here is where he wrote a bit about this topic and also here.
Sure! In college, you were a fun slut.
Now, you're a used-up slut who pretends to be a prude. A tradthot, though you don't fit our tradthot flair.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
Related, essential reading:
Rollo Tommasi's classic Saving The Best.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Wow that was an excellent write up by @ogrilla99
It’s a reminder that AWALT, and bringing an Asian/Eastern European girl back to the US can leave you in ruins. If I do go abroad and meet a girl, I will never bring her back to the west to live permanently.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I have a theory as how to spot a tradthot:
If she uses words such as "provide" along with "lead", which are obvious womanspeak for dumping him with the bills and expecting him to pass her shit tests. Why?
Let's say she was truly traditional like Bible style. She'd say: "I want to follow a man" or "I need a man whose willing to accept my submission to him".
"lead" implies he's gotta "earn" it. Which ties into:
"provide". I read The Bible. The Whole Thing. Note I don't retain every single line of it, but from what I recall as well as searches, men are expected to take care of relatives and spouses in the context of the head of household. In other words, he had to share his inheritance or the wealthy the family including kids in the fields gathered.
A trad-woman would say "reliable" or even "thrifty" man.
Heck, if there's anything NOT trad-wife is the notion of consumptive gluttonous waste such as overpriced flawed "natural" marked up diamonds. A Godly woman would reject them and request a proper lab diamond, if any at all, and save the money for the family or the poor.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Easiest sign: She has reached leftover age or she's even older.
While age alone isn't evidence, the question remains as to why she failed to lock down a husband beforehand, and the answer most likely is that she wasn't looking for a husband a few years ago, and the odds are, it was because she wanted to ride the cock carousel, and frankly CC riders are not marriage material.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I have a simpler heuristic: The farther away from debt free 19 year old virgin with no tattoos she is, the more likely she is a tradthot/chameleon.
Women will innately vomit whatever shibboleths they think will get them the most benefits. Ignore what they say with their mouths and listen to what they are with their life choices.
SwarmShawarma 2w ago
I doubt that there is many people immune to the ultimate abundance, dudes letting themselves to get abused - offended - taken for granted...
It will show in woman's behavior that she was not reality checked and exposed to such from the other sex.
Pretending to be a trad is a loosing job, they can't stop shit coming from behind a mask... as long as other one pays attention and will act on it.
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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2w ago
I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're going for here - the language barrier seems to be fucking you.
Regardless, you need to remove the rule 1 violation or I'll be forced to remove your reply.
cc @Typo-MAGAshiv @moorekom
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
Huh, I overlooked this one.
@SwarmShawarma - the use of the man-shaming slur "simp" is rarely going to go well at WAATGM. Do edit your comment.
SwarmShawarma 2w ago
???????? And you SAY you hate AI, it would instantly let both of us know, that something is off
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
lol wut?!
SwarmShawarma 2w ago
It would analyse messages for keywords
The question marks is some bs while I had my mobile in a pocket
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6d ago
"I don't accept my past" = I am in denial about having been a slut
"I lived a modern lifestyle" = I was depraved.
"I changed myself" = I told everyone else that I have changed. Nobody believes me.
"I am struggling with this marriage thing" = nobody wants me, because I am, and always have been, a slut.
IceNineWithLime 2w ago
She doesn't accept her past and says she never had a past in general. Well, then she must be a clone or replicant that was just made into existence. Someone alert the press!
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2w ago
The opening line is gold ...
"Fed up with the marrige and relationship thing"
She says she is 'fed up' but the reality is that she is not, nor will ever be, married or in a relationship 'thing'.
She is like one of those characters from Aesops fables that enters the final stage of denial when they realise that they cannot have the thing that they want.... they pretend that they never wanted that thing anyway.
You cannnot make this shit up.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
I thought she was fed up with being married when I saw the first line. Nooo, no... she's fed up with waiting for other men to wife her up.
Someone ought to tell women that it's perfectly legal for them to propose marriage nowadays, though that might not fit in with their puerile fantasies.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
NO - I WANT THE PRINCE TO ARRIVE ON A WHITE HORSE AND THEN LAY DOWN HIS CLOAK SO I STEP OVER THE PUDDLE, AND I WANT THE PRINCE TO BE 7 FOOT TALL AND VERY HANDSOME AND SIX PACK AND MILLIONAIRE AND NOT BE INTERESTED IN OTHER WOMEN ONLY ME ME ME ME ME ME
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1w ago
Only ONE white horse??
Pffsht. Get out of here with your over-modest, uninspired, mealy-mouthedness. Did someone suck-out your self-esteem?? You're an EMPRESS! You need to start making REAL demands of men! Stop letting them get away with their chronic under-delivery of what you deserve!
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 6d ago
YOU ARE RIGHT, I HAVE A FRIEND THAT GOT PROPOSED TO BY A CHAD AND HE WAS RIDING TWO WHITE HORSES, THEREFORE I NEED MY PRINCE TO BE RIDING 3 WHITE HORSES ONLY THE BEST FOR ME ME ME ME #NEVERSETTLE
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
YAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSS!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
This is what all girls should be told by older women;
"My dear, beware the cock carousel. It is best not to ride the cock carousel but if you can't help yourself and ride you will, then at least remember this: the skill is not in the riding but in the dismount."
Swiftly taking a second rate pony off the carousel is the best dismount (First rate ones are never available for this). Take a pony off the carousel and he knows already you were a slut but he fell for you and thought he had punched above his weight as he was only a second class pony.
A swift monkey branch from a pony is the next best dismount. Again there is little you have to hide and the fool thinks he won you.
Third best is an early dismount and swift marriage. Partly this is because you will have less of a reputation but mostly its because you may not yet be utterly ruined. You might still be able to bond and many men will be satisfied by this alone in this age of minimal male expectations.
Beyond that very few girls land on their feet. Even if they get back on for second, third or 4th goes, it always ends the same, crying in the mud, alone.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2w ago
You're not wrong about the odds and outcomes but you are wrong to suggest women should be given the option. You know as well as I do the moment they hear it's possible to stick the landing most women will solipsistically assume they'll be the exception and sprint for the CC without a second thought.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 2w ago
In post-wall lady life, cock carousel rides you!
Bozza 2w ago
It's sad that we've lost the wisdom of old school women.
I remember my grandmother giving me tidbits of (semi) TRP as a kid.
"Don't marry a dolly bird" she said. "Dolly bird" being slang for a good looking woman without much else going for her. "Marry yourself a good woman, one who can cook and clean" she said.
robert87 2w ago
I will never marry any woman unless she loved me when she was a teen. Remember all those women who used to post on facebook to excuse their bad behaviour "If you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best?"
Well
If you didn't love me when your value was at its highest, I will not love you when your value is at its lowest.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
Just a slutfugee trying to benefits shop. This is why the older a woman is, the more cautious one should be. To the point that it is frequently not worth engaging with them in good faith for anything long term at all. Men with options aren't going to be interested in wifing up a slut, much less one that only offers them the interest level of a prude in a poor attempt to conceal her past.
There is a reason why men that date like Leonardo DiCaprio infuriates these spinsters - because he shows by example that a man of value does not have to accept the shitty deal these women are trying to gaslight you into accepting.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
@Typo-MAGAshiv Would this qualify for weekday content? There's a cultural reference buried in there someone here I think might appreciate but I don't recall his handle?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
My first impulse is "yes, but a bit of a stretch". Might reread some things and get back to that.
I tagged him in my sticky comment. I think he'll like this one.
GeorgeIII Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
Did a quick Google search on “saree”. Indian clothes, they are.
So a 28 year old Indian woman who has lived in “different cities” is trying to find marriage and can’t find a suitor, due to her past.
If this chick is living in India right now, what the fuck did she expect? 28F is old in India, of course she wouldn’t be popular for marriage. Men would think she is either a slut or there is something fucking wrong with her.
And if she’s an Indian girl living in the West, nobody is ever going to think she is a virgin and never did casual.
No actual critical thinking between the ears. From a university and career woman. What a retard. Lol
Bozza 2w ago
My points exactly.
Reverts to the traditional once it's beneficial.
Well, it's too late my friend.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
In the old days, 28 was way too late for a woman, but for the last few decades, society promoted the idea that modern women could delay seeking marriage as long as she wanted and that men need to "man up" and wife them up when those women finally wanted to get married.
But we men have seen that "the prize" good guy husband material used to get; a young virgin with housewife skills has been replaced with a wall-banger with a high body count and baggage plus a high risk of future divorce, and have increasingly concluded that modern women are not a prize, but a booby trap, and have abandoned becoming husbands.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I was just ruminating how interesting it is that the concept of the over-the-hill 28 year old spinster is becoming a reality, again!
This was common knowledge a century ago and it was perhaps the FIRST thing 1st wave feminists rebelled against. "How DARE men declare a woman worthless at 28!!!" they shrieked. Theoretically, they have a point, like feminism as a theory. The PROBLEM is that "women's liberation" is about women being "liberated" from being decent human beings. They can be sluts, materialists, lazy, and cruel while abandoning "oppressive" concepts such as being kind, frugal, and chaste WHILE demanding men be absolutely PERFECT in every way.
This delusion, this illusion, is maintainable personally until age 28 even as they refuse to see what else is going on. Us men see how other men are divorce graped and rejected and society even celebrates mocking us as "incels" or "checking privilege".
Now the chickens have come home to roost, proverbially, and it's meltdown time.
Everything that's old, is new again!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2w ago
From what I know about Indian culture, the men are looking for wives more so than over here. What I mean is, getting married isn't shit on like it is in the USA. So for this girl to be 28 and not have a guy locked down really says a lot about what she is. Even more so than the typical malware females we have here.
Just yikes man, yikes. She must've been WILD in college. People talk, bet her rep followed her all the way up the family chains.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
This is the dot reds, not YouTube or Twitter. You don't have to fruit things up here.
You can say "divorce-raped".
You don't have to talk like a bundle of sticks.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I know. I was having fun with it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
Oh, me too with the "bundle of sticks" thing, in case it wasn't obvious.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I chuckle at that term as someone who has awful spelling, but nonetheless appreciate semantic quibbles.
From google: "Fascism derives its name from the Latin word fasces (bundle of sticks), a symbol from Ancient Rome representing strength through unity and magisterial authority. Mussolini adopted this symbol—rods tied around an axe—to signify a unified, authoritarian state where the people (sticks) are bound to the leader (axe), enforcing power."
"The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something not desirable'." -- George Orwell
" Individually we are weak, like a single twig, but as a bundle we form a mighty faggot." -- Martin Prince, The Simpsons
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
LMAO, you should get a kick out of this thread.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
I did. Thanks. I don't know if Jaythefox (didn't tag him) is a gay troll, but he did pick up the fascist reference. That said, the last two managers I reported to were gay and gay men don't put up with shit from women. These gays were not flaming though and passed as straight men.
As a general insight: Perhaps the most wonderful thing about RP is that masculine pride and not putting up with crap from women inherently makes us MORE attractive to them although women lack the cognitive capacity to be conscious of this. The RP is an oral medication. BP is a supposity.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
LMAO, it was never intended as that. I was straight-up (heh) calling him a faggot.
No, the suppository is getting the Red Pill forced up your ass in divorce or your woman cheating on you. That's been a common phrase/sentiment in the manosphere for several years.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2w ago Stickied
Hey, @Vermilion-Rx! The text is flying off the right side of the screen on mobile again.
...I don't know if you can actually do anything about that, I just needed a preamble before tagging @redpillschool because tradition.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2w ago
... and now it's doing it to me.
RED PILL SCHOOOOOOOOOOL!
Actual tag of @redpillschool
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1w ago
Now the text fits on the right side but the left is cut off (at least on vertical orientation).
@redpillschool, did you forget to sacrifice a chicken to the tech gremlins again?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2w ago
i should clarify what I mean by that: When self-administered, the RP usually improves your life almost immediately. No longer being a "nice guy" and offering to help out women without anything in return, being cheap on dates, and so on, actually feels GOOD when you get used to it. Being a "nice guy", however while feeling "good" about being "nice", is actually emotionally draining EVEN IF in the old days women when rewarded beta behavior.
That's why I think many successful betas were bullies to other men: They needed to dump the stress and anxiety induced by being servile to their old ladies.
When the fear of not being BP goes away, namely not getting laid or a wife not being "happy" or fear of divorce g^Hrape, one finds how easy it is. It's just that first baby step but I suppose for many it's a big step.