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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
"Everyone loves money" -- Yeah, and guess who loves it the most, the women who aren't worth it in the first place, lol.
Already had an encounter today on V-Day, was at a place getting some pre-going-out-late food, and the girls one table over were talking about their dates and how 'weird' and such they were, just trash-talking them.
Felt bad for the dudes they were mentioning. And the best part, they weren't anything over a 5 at best.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
Left unstated in the article, but relevant: as of a few years ago (when a new series was introduced) Kenyan shilling notes started being printed in Germany. From the central bank's perspective, it must be dismaying to contract a foreign printer to produce fresh crisp banknotes, fly them in as cargo, then watch people mutilate them for fun.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Had a debate about this trend with my lady yesterday. I feel it shows a huge gulf between Kenyan and Anglosphere culture. I find it obnoxious and demeaning to men's feelings, if all they are worth is how much cash he can dress up as sentiment.
Took her out to what I consider an expensive restaurant (3.5 times the cost of a meal where I usually take her). She didn't order any wine which was a relief but she then told me about her friend from Zimbabwe who is being courted (I personally think as a side chick) by a Luo. (Luos are the most blue pill tribe in kenya when it comes to showing a man's value in life by how much he can spend on his women) The friend has just divorced her husband and dumped the kids on him. She is now "discovering herself" She has never drank before, so the Luo buys a number of bottles for her to try when they go out to restaurants (restaurants usually put a 300 % mark up on wine) and if she doesn't like them he just leaves them all untouched on the table to show his wealth and desire to spend on her. (why would you not try a single glass first?) My lady thinks its romantic. I think its a massive red flag if a man is so wasteful. Some things are just not culturally compatible.
What I loved about the article is where the BBC went to interview women: "People are still excited about the trend," she tells the BBC at Koinange Street"
Koinange street is where you go in Nairobi if you want to hire a high class street whore.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
The whole thing about the first date experience in my father's era was that it was a pretense to get the girl out of the house for wholesome courtship and later on, he had to spend money whether it was on coffee or a cafe because the woman would get upset if she paid BUT women weren't supposed to say they were making the man pay for her because that was recognized as quid-pro-quo prostitution even up to the early 1980's.
To demand he spend a lot, or waste his money, would usually get frowned upon by even the normal men of that era. At some time, in what I noticed African-American cultures, was frowning on the men using, gasp, coupons. My sister (Polish American) frowned upon me plate splitting on dates. No need for a takeout box if we both eat everything! (And it's more romantic and intimate to boot to share spit on the plate.)
When women openly treat men like this, shouldn't it be obvious he's being played?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
Your in-depth knowledge is something else.
I will say that I only spent a week in Kenya and I had an amazing time. (In 1995, I got an invitation there to do a summer volunteer opportunity, which I actually regret not doing.) On my last day, I wanted a guided walking tour of the downtown area-- near the government buildings where they don't allow photographs-- and I met my guide at an Indian cafe/restaurant.
I was on the 2nd floor of the atrium, seating at the railing with a nice view of the interior. I had samosa and local coffee, seated while watching the civil servants coming and going in the morning rush. The flat screen TV on the wall was showing CitizenTV in Swahili. It really was the kind of place that I like.
Your lady is Kenyan?
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
If you liked that, if you ever go there again ride the little buses (matatu) wherever you go. These buses are run privately by very street smart guys, usually fuelled by a mild stimulant called mira. (The bus touts on a day off would make awesome guides if you could one you trusted as they are so street smart and know the town so well). On the buses, you get to see a lot of life (up country away from the police they will pack 18 of you in along with chickens and even goats, in town they will be constantly bribing police and trying to put pretty girls in the front seat). Listening to the radio playing in the bus can be an education. The radio DJs are very funny. They seem to attract female callers who want to show up the very worst in women -running rotations of beta providers, complaining they were not "given" enough after a night club hookup, why they cheat and so on.
I have not been to kenya for 15 years but I understand all that is still the case.
I got mixed up in kenya by accident. I worked for white kenyans, through them met a kenyan girlfriend after my first marriage ended, found she was a slag and got a white one instead and that should have been the end of it but I was curious about what one might call "bushcraft" -primitive skills in living off the land. Wanted to see the african side of it. The ex girlfriend's sister had a friend from a very up country tribe but the friend could speak english because she had been educated by missionaries. She would introduce me to her pastoralist people if I went to see her and paid her living expenses. This girl had been picked out for education by the missionaries to save her from her background -her father was a cattle rustler, poacher and had done time in jail. Her mother was a moonshiner. Sounded fun.
So began all the culture clash chaos. The girl was an absolute gem and her old man was a good humoured guy who had just fallen foul of a world that no longer allowed his traditional way of life where cattle rustling and hunting are standard male activities. The mother had turned to moonshine making because an illiterate woman whose husband goes to jail could only feed and school a large family by moonshining or whoring and she wasn't a slag, so she started distilling. They then worked out that if they pretended to have given up their traditional beliefs and took on christian names, they would get free shit like money and school fees from missionaries. The old man liked hunting and guns as much as I do, his country just wouldn't let him do it legally, and the girl had a mixture of fairness and kindness in her that I have not seen much in kenya.
I didn't fall in love with Kenya like so many whites do. The country and people have both got a lot going for them but the culture today is really only warm, welcoming and friendly to rich people who give them money and that is why whites love it so. They feel welcomed and loved but it is because they are giving out in return for smiles. This is not attractive really when you think about it -its a culture that whores out. That is why the western countries have made nairobi an aid hub and a centre for the west in east africa -because kenyans sold out to them more than other nations. I fell in love with the girl and the land but not the culture which is in some ways shockingly shallow and materialistic. White saviours forgive this shallowness with "well they have so little..." yeah but so do other cultures that have not sold out all their traditions or so pedastalise money and that is without even getting me started on the Kenyan black middle and upper class who are massively privileged often earning more than middle class whites in the west yet living in a country where you can pay a poor woman a couple of dollars a day to be a disposable house servant.
The girl unfortunately died, leaving me with a 5 day old premature baby. By freak chance as I grappled with funeral arrangements, I met an older woman (almost my age) who worked for the same missionaries. She was genuinely kind helping me as she had recently had two of her sisters die and knew it was hard. She came from the same tribe and town as the girl but had lived in nairobi for over a decade. She was from a privileged middle class background and unlike the first girl she really bought into catholicism -being a nun tempted her. She liked me and we began a relationship (yeah a devout kenyan can pray 7 times a day, really mean it and still fornicate with enthusiasm). She is a good woman and I have lived with her for a while now in the west but we have such different backgrounds. I told her so many times before she came that I was educated but had chosen to be a poor tradesman, liked a simple life and that she was privileged and would be diminished if she came to live with me. She didn't see it till she came and I think part of her really regrets giving up her nairobi life for a village in the west, where we heat the house with firewood and I bring home stuff I shot to eat. I value history, literature, art and the outdoors but I don't value money more than I need it to get the things I value. We differ a lot there.
This whole valentines bouquets of money thing triggered me a bit as it sums up a lot of what I can't love in Kenyan culture, even though I try to be understanding.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 3w ago
Good lord man. That's gripping stuff. Thank you for writing it in such detail.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3w ago
Wow! What A Story! What happened with the 5 day old premature baby?
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Grew into a smashing daughter. Yesterday morning we shot and butchered a deer together. Today I took her to the track in the local city to run a practise that is part of a progression that she hopes will result in a European championship qualifying time (she might be a bit ambitious there). It was not plain sailing but I got her here and we pushed through and it has come good for her.
Better still her boyfriend is taking her to town to Subway tomorrow for a belated valentines "meal". (He had a race today and so they didn't go out yesterday) and she is delighted. Its Kenyan culture not Kenyan blood that is so venal. She values the man above the money spent on her. Raise them to value what matters and they will.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
wat
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 3w ago
Bit of an oxymoron there. Sorry. What I mean is the top end of the street walkers. Not not just any girl can go and stand there. They have to be approved by the local underworld. One imagines there is a fee or cut to be paid.
WalmartDemon 3w ago
TIA, huh?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Not sure what that means
WalmartDemon 3w ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3frHm9hw5bI&t=60
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3w ago
Never seen that one.