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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
Nice to read a story with a happy ending.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6mo ago
Someone please post this to the Reddit site since I, tragically due to an injustice, cannot.
So X algorithm has been giving me so many Carols that I couldn't wait to get this up for weekend posting and then, gives me weekday content so I'll post that this Wednesday. It's like the Entitled and Aging women are exploding recently perhaps due to some demographic bulge like how everyone all-at-once was into SUVs? I've got a backlog of postings and it's growing. Happy President's Day weekend!
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6mo ago
The youngest of the Millenials are all starting to hit 30+ and the Wall and the eldest are crossing over into unfuckable ages. And those of us with even a bit of overlap between them and GenX can tell you that that generation of women were worthless and toxic as fuck. Literally the generation of:
And the ones immediately after that bloc saw them getting away with it for so long and aped their example so thoroughly that that they themselves are hurtling towards an early Wall impact at speeds measured in multiples of C.
wswZtyqNGQ 6mo ago
...that's a rather impressive analogy.
NPC070201 6mo ago
Can't wait to read (and laugh) through your backlog. Don't keep us waiting, friend!
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6mo ago
I limit to one per day. It's almost as if there's some sort of aging inspin dump on the internet and I haven't even gone to a source I abandoned a few years ago: The "askwomen" and "datingover30/40" subreddits. My goal is to find "weekday" content which I'll comment on this wednesday.
NPC070201 6mo ago
Maybe the inspin dump is because of the collective realization that a despair event horizon is almost here for them.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
"Was his argument valid or did he cross a line of respect?" "Is asking for economic stability in a partner about being materialistic, or is it a legitimate expectation?"
She doesn't want any feedback. Tacking these questions onto the end is merely a BS justification for presenting her fan-fiction account of her date. Even "translated from Spanish," the guy's supposed reply of "So put a price on your company and look for clients, not a partner" seems just a little too perfect.
That perfectly scripted line then gives her license to be a girlboss and end the date. How stunning and brave she is.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
When a guy stops giving a shit, he'll say what he really means.
Source: me. When I found a woman insufferable, I'd insult her right to her face.
I didn't give two flying fucks if the date or encounter ended. Sometimes I ended up getting laid because she found the honesty and ZFG energy attractive.
And this was all between 2002 and 2004.
Specific example: and I've told this story before, but the woman I lost my virginity to was a single mom I had made fun of earlier in the evening. I said something like "so do you just sponge off of the taxpayers to feed your kids or what?" A few hours (maybe not even that long) later, I'm losing my virginity.
Different occasion at a different house party, with a different ending. An attractive woman and I caught each other's eyes and we started chatting. She revealed a few things about herself that made me lose interest, but the final nail in the coffin was the belief in ghosts. I made fun of her right to her face, and she got pissed off and walked away. I didn't care. There are plenty of other women in the world.
I'm sure with how Red Pill and MGTOW and cthe manosphere at large are more popular than ever, there are plenty of men willing to say things like that.
I took "that's where the date ended" as him ending the date, not her. She seems to be posting an L.
CC: @mattyanon, @mentorpheus
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
"I took "that's where the date ended" as him ending the date, not her. She seems to be posting an L."
You may be right. The way I read it, M'lady needed her fainting couch after essentially being called a whore and immediately bailed, knowing her cash quest was dead in the water.
PS: I still don't know how to "quote" someone else's post properly. If there's a tutorial elsewhere on these pages (I've searched, unsuccessfully), I would be happy to learn. Or if someone could just post the coding trick, I would appreciate it.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6mo ago
The sad part is she's worse than a whore. A whore is usually far more honest about the transaction she is seeking. The problem isn't the transaction itself, it is the deception and concealing a shit deal.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
It's not coding, but markdown that works just like at reddit. Site owner @redpillschool had posted a guide for this several years back, but this last round of updates seems to have broken all the blog links at the moment (at least for me; maybe you'll have better luck).
For quoting, use the greater-than symbol (>) at the start of the line. If you want paragraphs, have that same symbol in an empty line and at the beginning of the next line of text.
>example line 1 > >example line 2
If you're wondering how I showed that without the formatting taking place, whichever slash this one is "\" immediately in front of a markdown symbol negates the markdown.
Additional examples:
*italics*
italics
**boldface**
boldface
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strikethroughstrikethroughOddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
So you do it like this? \cool\ \cool\ \cool \cool
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
Huh. The strikethrough didn't get negated.
It's double ~ on each side of the word or phrase.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
You mean ~ ~like this?~ ~
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
I think you know better.
JudgeSmales Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
Let's see if this works. I appreciate
learinglearning new things.PS: Much appreciated. I'll save your post for reference.
PSS: I've been on this site at least 4 or 5 years (roughly since Chateau Heartiste went off the air), but now that I can quote, etc., I won't feel like such a relative newb.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
Glad to be a temporary Quality Learing Center.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
I still don't know how to write big, but that may be giving this gamma too much power.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
At start of line: pound sign, space, words.
# big font
big font
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6mo ago
Yeah, noone says this in speech.
"Look for clients, not a partner" is plausible.
Putting a price on your company as a prelude to that....... nope, that's not normal in any language.
MentORPHEUS TRP Endorsed 6mo ago
Had a bit of "Then all the men in the venue stood and applauded" vibe, but I laughed all the same.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
Women: WE WANT FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE, ANYTHING LESS IS OPPRESSION PERPETRATED BY MEN!
Also women: Why don't men pay for all my shit anymore?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6mo ago
Maybe you said the wrong thing, darling? To demand one-sided sacrifice in a relationship isn't attractive. Sure, maybe it's you being honest, but it's also not attractive.
It's like me telling my prospective partner that I don't care whether they have an orgasm. Do you think I could get laid after saying that?
Sure, I might be a stupid meathead Neanderthal male and all, but despite that I can understand some basic grunts, how to bang rocks together and pick lice out of my fur.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 6mo ago
I'm chuckling LotL, is that her sentence itself was a paradox: Was she being "honest" when she said that her golddigging was due to mere "responsibility and commitment". (Hmmm, I wonder if @Typo-MAGAshiv, that statement satisfies Rule 5?)
Is she saying that she isn't responsible or committed? THAT would have been the cool question for him to repackage and throw right back in her face. Whenever women say: "I want a man who shows interest and effort" can I say back "Do you show interest or effort? Do you not like men in general?" and watch them flubber. "The Table" poses the question then: They don't want men to get ready for dates? That cars he picks her up in don't require maintenance?
Nonetheless, his calling her out was hilarious in that he exposed she was simply broke. Women often shame "cheap" men as "broke", but here she is literally trying to use that as an excuse. She's a poor loser who needs a man to support her and show commitment and responsibility to someone she regards as a loser if she was a man.
Ahem, furthermore, I find it amusing that the date needn't have ended. If the man had money, and she had simply stated perhaps gratitude and even humility, she could have maybe gotten what she wanted if she was, well, honest. Instead, she's "independent". I dated a chunky fast food worker when I was young and lonely back 40 years ago. I'm THANKFUL her snobbery rejected me because if she had shown me actual affection and kindness during that emotionally vulnerable time for me, I'd have been stuck with some fat working class boring wife. The modern woman is so messed up, the working class women think they can pose as affluent and this somehow makes them entitled.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
No, because she's only looking for commitment signals from men, not necessarily actual commitment in the formn of marriage or a committed relationship, which must be explicit and in her own words.
WAATGM founder @Kevin32 wrote a lot of good guidance for WAATGM mods on this, and I'd love to quote some of it directly, but it was all within the internal communication function of the subreddit's modmail, which I no longer have access to.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6mo ago
That's a weird thing to not want, to be sure.
When I was in the US, I lived in several cities with very cold winters. You're supposed to keep the gas tank full so that the fuel line doesn't freeze when you keep it parked. Silly me, I guess I shouldn't have bothered. A frozen engine would mean that I'm a spontaneous, devil-may-care kind of dude.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6mo ago
"Put a price on your company and look for clients, not a partner"......... that's hilarious :)
And true.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 6mo ago
I'm so proud of how you recognize his honesty - not trying to lie his way into your bed, but actually being honest. I'm glad you aren't simultaneously virtue signaling your honesty at all. You're such a humble person!
Oh, heavens no, who would ever suspect that?
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6mo ago
She likes money purely because of its aesthetic charms. Large-denomination Euro bills have lovely architecture on it, for instance. And who doesn't love the flying loon on the Canadian $1 coin?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
Hah! Untraveled rube EXPOSED!
the loon is sitting on water on the Canadian Loonie!
Now that I've exposed you, CONFESS! you aren't as well-traveled as your book says, are you?!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 6mo ago
Now that I looked it up, I'll be damned. What the hell coin was I thinking of?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
Beats me.
Maybe the Philistine drachnadarius, which famously had a Mesopotamian loon in flight?
Because you were thinking of your homeland.
you Philistine.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6mo ago
OOC a moment: my phone tried to change "Philistine" to "ovulation".
Twice.
lol!