Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Its funny how the "grass is greener" thing works out for women.
Girl I know dumped this nerdy dude, went with the 'bad boy' and he ended up having a heart attack leaving her with some kids.
Another did the usual settle-for-beta-bucks, he finally got sick of her behavior (must've taken a lot, he was pretty chill) and pulled the plug. She got the usual Divorce payout, and now he's built himself financially to a place she'll never reach.
Guys who have a goal will most likely reach that goal, and maintain it. Women just do what they normally do, which is allocate stored resources, they're not really good at getting their own, but that is what complemented a man's drive.
Look forward to the dynamic of male/female restoring itself, this distortion has really fucked everything up and its showing in the crashing replacement rate world-wide.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
There is a famous experiment that is much talked about in the field of child physchology....
They put out a range of toys in front of a 5 year old kid. About 6 toys. The experimenter takes note of the toys that the kid interacts with. When he has obsereved which are the favourite toys, he selects the toy that the kid has zero interest in, and picks it up and says
"This toy, I'm now going to give it to Johnny, because he has no toys"
Every single time, the kid throws a tantrum and insists that is his favourite toy.
The think I like about child psychology is that it is really just human psyschology, and in particular, the study of how women think, feel and behave. Women are basically children that have never grown up - because they never needed to. They just simply hardly ever graduate to the adult phase.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Someone please post to the Reddit site since due to an injustice, I cannot. It drives traffic here. Thanks.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
TL;DR:
women are fucking retarded, and can't make up their minds what they actuality want.
LMAO no the fuck they aren't
Then how do you know what's available on dating apps, you stupid bitch?!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
I just think of women as a big school of those tiny fish. They move so tightly together that it's nearly impossible to pick one out. What does that fish, there, want? No one cares, no one knows. But somehow they all just move together as a unit.
The fish want what the other fish want, and go where the other fish go. Who had the idea to go this way? We already forgot about that. We're over here! Why did we come here? Because we did! Almost zero self-awareness. Even phrases like "work on myself" mean absolutely nothing except "I heard other women say that after their divorce."
When you think of women like this, things kinda make sense. Truly independent, trend-setting women are very rare and hated by the other fish. Women fear the ire of the school more than the hunger of their predators.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
women are fucking retarded, and can't make up their minds what they actuality want.
They are quite clear about what they want: they only want the things that they cannot have, and that other people have. As soon as they get what they want, they don't want it any more.
You could be Brad Pitt, or George Clooney - as soon as a woman gets that, she will get bored of that.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Pity. There's so much gold here such as her writing: "And now she [new girlfriend] gets the best bits of him I had in the beginning. His humour, charm, romantic gestures, affection."
Those are still there, clearly, but her nagging and complaining had drained these out of him. It wasn't he was the one who needed work, but she clearly. Look at the logic that there are few good men on the apps according to her: This means she faces a competitive marketplace but she isn't up to it.
"I need time to be with myself and work on myself."
It sounds like that's a great strategy in that aging women such as this on the cusp of menopause have lots of time to land the few hot guys remaining on the apps...
"But I still love him - I just can’t live with him."
This is such BS. Unless he's a drug addict or continually bothering her (which we know she'd have mentioned it if that was the case), all she has to do to "live" with him is give him, and her, a little space. She can join a book club or go hiking or, like my father RIP, fishing all day on Saturday. She likely was spending all her waking time nagging him and then the guy stopped being funny for some reason.
"This is what makes it hard for women to break up with nice guys, because he is a nice guy."
THIS quote, @Typo-MAGAshiv deserves for this article to be pinned, perhaps, as it hits the charter quite well. "Nice guys" are boring and dangerous because... demanding entitled women find it hard to demonize them! These men are so bad!
And she closes with: "But I did [left her husband], and as hard as it is, and I am really proud of myself for it."
And that's what she's left with: Pride at having broken wedding vows and her childrens' stability because she was bored. No mention of the work SHE could have done. Not at the ability to find a replacement like he did (because that involves actual WORK rather than complaining). Nope. She abandons NICE, committed men and that's an accomplishment to her.
I betcha that grinds her gears the most is she wakes up on the weekend and the home is silent and... there's nobody to complain to. No "nice guys" to hear The Princess declaring She's unhappy. She's got a lot of time to "work" on that now.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
What gynocentric bullshit is is to assume that used up women will ever on average be the catches men of the same age are! Just because they all lie does not make reality change.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I have a theory for this notion many women have that women are "hotter" than men nowadays:
With the infamous OK Cupid 80/20 ratio, ALL 80% of men are "below average" in their eyes based upon their demands of men. "Real" men have to meet a laundry list of conditions to even be considered human.
Let's be honest: Us men don't improve with age all things considered so some of us have guts, balding, and so on. Fair enough. It's HARDER for us men to hide that on a dating profile as 50 year old women can slop on pancake makeup and mascara.
What I think happens with middle aged women hitting the dating apps is they would reject 80% of the men whether they hit the apps at 50 or 20. It doesn't matter. But they interpret it as: "Well, it must be the 80% of ugly men haven't aged well". Their sense of entitlement deflates what men they find attractive. They then think that since they have high self-esteems and entitlement, that the men are "lazy" and give up. It beats having to put an "effort" in themselves.
I missed in what she wrote that's hilarious that she bitched at him for not "working" to save the relationship but now after she gave him walking papers, literally, she now wants time to "work on herself". Well, couldn't she have done THAT during the marriage if "work" needed to be done?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
Is that a joke?
If we're developing ourselves, and staying in decent shape, we are far more attractive in our 30s and 40s than we are in our twenties.
For my part, I catch women ranging in age from underage teenagers all the way through fifties and sixties and everything in-between checking me out, and I'm 46.
I have a beer gut, but I look like I could crush most men. The muscles in my chest, shoulders, and upper back all offset a slightly bigger stomach.
Shave your head and confidently own it. Trying to hide it makes you look insecure, but confidently owning it is quite sexy to a lot of women.
Volumes have been written about this, from Rollo's earliest stuff through a lot of posts at TRP and MRP, but if you're a man and getting less attractive as you age (up to a point), then you're doing something wrong.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
It's not a joke. I mean that men, overall, all things considered, more physically healthy in our 20's than we are 20 years later. We can offset that by getting into shape. I just did this myself and I've turned back the clock about 10 years in the past year or so. It's wonderful.
You miss my greater point, however, which is that these women have their rationalization goggles going on where they dismiss all the men their age as "old and ugly" when the reality is that such women dismiss 80% of men as ugly at ANY AGE.
The girls who aren't dopamine burned out and bitter, the teens as you say, will respond to masculine men in a healthy manner but they are generally comfortable with men. They're not these pathological women.
GeorgeIII 1w ago
Sadly, most US men ARE clueless betas. Who believe they can just relax once they are married.
Come to think of it, what I see is that the vast majority of both men and women stop trying to go to the gym/diet after getting into an LTR. Self-development of all kinds ends in most people once they think they are secure and committed, as an LTR is most people’s end goal of self development. That’s why the fat grenade gets pulled right after tying the knot. Gym, money, and game would never happen in most people if an LTR were handed to them easily.
Of course, men absolutely do have the potential to continue improving through their 40s. Most just choose not to.
adam-l TRP Endorsed 1w ago
That was such a nice female-written read, so utterly messed up...
TJMS 1w ago
Woman divorces husband. Woman most affected.
Is this not one of the most ridiculous cases of wanting to have her cake and eat it too? She gets rid of the husband because she thinks she can do better, but she complains because he's not there anymore to do things for her. Dear lord...
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Fucking vile cunt expected to essentially own his emotional investment in her for perpetuity despite her being the one that tossed him aside.
Chalk another one up for women like her being selfish children that want to have their cake and eat it too. She expected to get both the freedom of divorce and the commitment of marriage.
And the lesson for men: always be able to replace a woman. Your own commitment is nearly irrelevant to whether or not she stays loyal anyways. So just be able and ready to swap her out and move on the moment she tries shit.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
Maybe she is disapointed that he didn't 'fight for her'?
I've seen that movie a few times!!
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Just reading that dreck phrase makes me want to spit bile and acid. I have never heard a woman worth a damn ever utter it unironically.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
Because any woman worth a damn isn't going to do something as stupid as break up with a man just to see if he'll "fight for her".
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
That is also pretty much how it went with both my ex wives. They regretted it.
Second wife divorced me when the cash pile grew too large. Is now too traumatised to talk to me. Get that, she's 'traumatised'.
Poor thing. My heart bleeds.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
As Oscar Wilde wrote in A portrait of Dorian Grey; "There are many things we would throw away if only we were not afraid someone else might pick them up". She had no such fear. She knew her worth, she ditched that man who gave her no joy. Then someone else picked him up.
I think quite a few women break up with men partly from curiosity and hoping for better things but also just to punish them for not making the woman's life perfect for her (why she might have deserved this is never considered). When punishment turns into a reprieve, the women really get stung.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
my goodness that quote is gold. Oscar Wilde really knew what he was talking about.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Such a smart bloke but he confused his anus with a sex organ!
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
Yes, he was a pheg. We all know that. But good for him.
Many phegs that I know are actually more red pilled that hetros. Their minds are not clouded by pedestalling. Also, they sluts love hanging around with phegs, and they have really heard it all. It's like phegs have a free pass intot the ladies changing room, and they have heard every single convo that us hetros have not.
GeorgeIII 1w ago
We always hear and read from the MSM about how marriage is good for men. That men who are married live longer and make more money. And that women suffer in marriage, as it’s oppressive and patriarchal.
Then why the hell are women the ones pushing for marriage? It’s bad for them right? Then I see this strong independent queen pull the plug, taking the kids and child support. And STILL being unhappy that she got out of there, with the kids and money, free to date any other willing man out there.
She’s unhappy now because he isn’t miserable.
Freedom doesn’t make her happy. The unhappiness of others does.
TJMS 1w ago
Someone did a breakdown on youtube of the "marriage is good for men" thing. It was pretty well-reasoned. One of the points raised was that "married men make more money" is offset by "their wives spend that money on shit that doesn't necessarily make the man happy." Or something. Anyways, more money isn't, generally speaking, correlated with greater happiness. I'm a lot happier now as a broke writer than I was as a rich software engineer. (God, I hate office politics.)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Correlation vs causation. Did you know that hospitals are dangerous! So many people die there!
Married men live longer and are happy usually because they can afford to provide for a wife and children. They also strive to be happy because this is what is needed to keep a relationship going in that being a bitter person is bad for a marriage.
That reminds me of a film snippet I recently say of "Hope Gap" about a shrill wife who shit tests her husband for 29 fucking years and then he leaves her and she's shocked about it. I could barely get through the preview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FV4svI6SfE
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
And married men know they have to act the part of being happy because of the consequences if they do not. A bachelor is under no such imposition much like how he only has to work hard enough to sustain himself.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
A lot of good comments here. The only 2 cents I have to add is: *points and laughs*