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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1w ago
If she is single at 39, it is because she wanted to be single. There is no two ways about it.
She didn't 'need no man' because she had enough cash from her work, but now that she finds that she 'wants a man'.
That is not how it works. Men and women get together because they 'need each other'. That is the only way it can work.
What she is forgetting is this..... Now she 'would like' a man, but there is basically no man that would 'need her'. Men on her radar fall into two groups...
They want to reproduce, to have a family. She is not a good match for these men, because of her infertility at 39, also because of her body count.
So there is no market for her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Please, someone (kindly) report to the Reddit site since I cannot due to an injustice. Emilia Clarke is 39 years old, FYI.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
Would bang.
Would not commit.
Shouldn't have been filmed naked. Should have locked down a man over a decade ago.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago Stickied
Women would do good to realize that the more they commodify their sexuality, the less value it has for future purchases. This is why a whore under 29 years old still has little to no RMV despite engaging far more honest transactional relationships than many modern women.
And older societies regarded actors and prostitutes to be on the same tier. There is a reason for this.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Don't insult prostitutes like that. Prostitutes engage in a relatively honest living ironically which is why it's banned: A man pays money and gets sex while dinner-dating, humiliation rituals, and marrying golddiggers gives men few assurances of value. Dating, as we know it, is relatively recent in that previous to this custom, men were "dating" the family, so to speak, whose father observed who would either make a good husband for his daughter or at least a useful son-in-law (hence the huge tracts of land dowries for well decorated knights.). https://youtu.be/TERvoFSUGKk?t=207
One of my wife's and I's favorite operas, Turandot, is a bit of 19th century romanticism where a bitter princess subjects her suitors to tests and then executes them if they fail. Obviously, I never fell in love with the princess but rather his loyal concubine (whose almost always the slimmer understudy rather than the chunky diva whose the princess.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81kCWHE-QU&list=RDp81kCWHE-QU&start_radio=1
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I mean, I did say whores are far more honest than regular modern women. I consider them better people because of that, but that is separate from RMV/MMV evaluations. One can be a great person and still not be a good relationship or marriage candidate.
Granted, comparing whores to actors was kind of mean to whores, though just about everyone knows actors sell themselves just as much. cough casting couch cough
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
I remember at the height of PoundMeToo, the court documents against Harvey Weinstein finally came out. He didn't sexually assault anyone! He solicited prostitution, and they consented!
Victims, my left nut.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
Very true, women aren't so stupid that they don't know what they are trading their 'talents' for.
Just like every girl that says she's been "flown to Dubai" you know EXACTLY what kind of transaction is taking place. I love it when they tell on themselves like that, lets me bin their future prospects immediately.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Yup, just like regular women, whores but lying about it.
Which makes them worse than whores.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Here's another angle of why I think prostitutes probably have an easier time "settling down" and getting married versus CC riders, meal whores, and corporate nuns: They understand the concept of being able to have sex without a man "putting them in the mood".
I read often on X of women griping that men don't know "how to make them aroused". I remark back to them this sounds like they have a sexual dysfunction that they ought to get treated like allegedly men who look at porn so much they can't get turned on by real women. That triggers them nicely. Being a princess who can't sleep with a pea under the mattress isn't a "flex", it's a disability.
I pointed out to them that if my wife wants to go to the mall with the child and me to come along, that it means something to her I go. I may not have a great time, but I'll weather through it. These women responded like children "How can you do something you don't want to?" Like going to work, or taking out the trash.
Prostitutes are capable of pleasing men without needing the man to be perfect and shape himself around her sexual frigidity. It's like... if you wanted a housewife who could cook and clean, marrying a maid who also worked at a restaurant would be a good choice.
On X, it comes up from time to time that married women shouldn't do "duty sex" but men should be expected to do all the men's chores whether we're in the mood or not without her "nagging" us. They get upset if, gasp, they have to remind us to do it. As someone I think put it on TRP, they want to be like pets without obligations. Men should feed and look after them and they show us affection when they're in "the mood".
These simple measures would rescue western civilization and the USA in particular: 1) Fully end white guilt (on the way with Trump EO rescinding LBJ's EO on DEI). 2) End child-support for unwed mothers. If they go on welfare, kids go to state provided daycare while the women do mandatory work as maids, restaurants, etc.
3) Family courts should prioritize fiscal responsibility in custodial parents. It's insane to reward irresponsible women with children as hostages. Unless the baby is nursing, the father should take care of the kid and she goes to work. She's been a housewife? Denny's is hiring! She can wash dishes, can't she? 4) Mandatory DNA testing at hospitals of both mother and father. Not only does this protect the paternity of the men, but also it would prevent the tragedy of switched babies that does occasionally happen. I read of a tragic tale of a father getting upset that DNA showed his child wasn't his and the wife knew she didn't cheat so she got tested and yep, the kid wasn't EITHER of theirs. She's heartbroken and knows what men go through.
In the meantime, "conservatives" have fretted for a half century about the left getting abortions, flag burning, and tax rates on millionaires.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
On that particular facet they'd enjoy a comparative advantage, the issue is they have displayed a history of short term transactionalism (that they just did not lie about) on top of the usual issues with high partner count leading to higher risk of STD's, etc. So while overt prostitutes are not as bad as a foody call covert whore, they are still not a great prospect for anything long term barring some significant renegotiation of how first world countries handle marriage.
As usual, women that either practice long term monogamy and or outright chastity until marriage are higher on the scale.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
I agree with your conclusion just that prostitutes get a bad rap particularly since we've normalized whoring as a virtue since the movie "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" where Marilyn Monroe plays a charming golddigger who rationalizes her behavior by claiming the son of a millionaire was physically shallow. That son was portrayed Tommy Noonan, was handsome and married twice with 6 children. Hardly an ugly guy who had to buy a floozey. His father should have threatened to disown him there and then but we have normalized this behavior.
I chatted with fellow father about how he expects young men to take her daughter out for dinner dates and yet is suspicious of them likely because he behaved that way himself. I said I intended to teach my daughter the idea to bring a gift to a date. Perhaps a card with a $5 starbucks gift card or perhaps a bar of chocolate. He was in shock. A woman showing appreciation for a man? Well, this is about showing appreciation beyond the use of transactional sex. I'm not going to approve my daughter going on dinner dates. I'm going to explain to her the merits of activity dates because they illustrate in real time how people interact with a situation.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Would bang too. Would even commit due to the fact that if she ever wore my ears out too badly with nagging, I could be free and richer. However, hypergamy says no.
Hypergamy is the reason this attractive if not brand new women is lonely. Had she never got rich and famous there would be just as many "would bang toos out there". Many of them would even commit to her aging self if they had more to lose than her in a divorce "because vagina" but as it is when she is most attractive as a marriage proposal -99.99% of men would lose not a penny if it went wrong, she is least marriageable because of hypergamy.
Hypergamy ought to have an expiry date on it. It is useful only for the young. It is supposed to be cashed in. If you do not cash it in, it does not wither, it withers your hopes. Young women should be married as well as possible early on. Then they at least have their best chances of happiness and it it all goes wrong, they are no worse off.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
Considering my net worth is far lower than hers... I'd commit in a second. Don't tell my wife! (Ok tell her, like as if she doesn't already know...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPX-mW4l1rU
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago
I'm not rich, but I have my own money. Her money isn't worth the headache she'd bring.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
The Queen of... wherever (I don't watch those stupid modern shows) should have thought of that before she became a rich actor by sleeping her way to the top and selling her soul to Hollywood.
Your beauty was not meant for the world, it was meant for one man to enjoy for a lifetime. Now your decline will be more epic than your career ever was, because of your "success".
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago
Unless she is willing to support gigolos, she is unlikely be willing to settle for a man who earns far less than her, also the only real remaining reason left for men to marry is because they want to start a family, and at 39 even with access to Hollywood levels of medical/fertility options, most men will choose younger.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1w ago
While true, it's a dumb idea.
Marriage is paying the mother of your children to break up the family.
It provides a financial motivation for her to leave, not to stay.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago
It's fun to surf through wiki and see how some of the lovely actresses from my favorite shows and movies of the 80's and 90's wound up. For example, the lovely actress who dresses down the protagonist in this scene in Love Potion Number 9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoW0jIk48O4
Lisa Guerrero in that scene apparently only wanted to date Chads. She would up getting married at age 39 to a handsome man, but miscarried. They divorced a few years later. She did somehow wind up marrying another rich guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Guerrero
I don't think the issue is about what "most men will choose". Women only care about "most men" for validation similar to background music in restaurants and elevators. They care about what the top socio-economic status men want but even then, not sufficiently to put in an "effort".
ANY of these women could land a reasonably attractive, decent man by putting in basic effort that us men do but they're snobs about work. I'm reminded of how when Louis XVI was fleeing the French Revolution, his entourage moved slowly because he was accustomed to "finer" travel so they caught him.
I didn't realize it at the time, but the hot girl from the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Phoebe Cates, got married to actor Kevin Kline and are still married. She's gained a bit of weight, but seems happy. Good for both of them!
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago
After she flashed those titties, I'm not surprised someone locked that down.
But good for her, at least she wasn't an OnlyFans trollop.
I have a past-time of identifying "peak" actress looks in movies. Funny how it usually is right around where you'd think it is - mid twenty to pre-thirties.