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NPC070201 1mo ago
I like how she says, "...as a relationship expert..." Then later on says she's a divorced single mother. So lady, what makes you a relationship expert? What are your credentials?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
There's so much wonderful about this woman's reasoning: As a "relationship expert", note that her advice about how to relate to men isn't based upon what will hook or land a good man, but rather what she, and other women, want and rationalize as entitlements. It's like someone advising fisherman who hasn't caught fish and how they hate to get up too early to catch the fish so the fish should wake up later.
The majority of female relationship coaches are about Tinkerbell reasoning that if other women listen to her self-centered reasoning, then it will somehow work like a prayer.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
Let's dismantle this bullshit.
No she actually doesn't. Women live longer, therefore their lifetime risk is lower than men.
The risk on the date is only lower if the man is planning to rape or murder her. You can't charge nice guys for her inability to spot decent men.
The financial risk is much much higher on men: marriage, accidental pregnancy, false rape accusations.
This comment only makes sense if you believe that nice guys should financially compensate women for their terrible dating decisions and SHE IS MEETING AT YOUR HOUSE.
If she's meeting you in public then you're not going to be murdering her, so not sure why we are paying her insurance premium.
Let's add in here the opportunity cost of being at the gym, 50 hours per month at $40 per hour. That's $2000 per month of my time at the gym. Compare this to her fucking makeup.
Men have vastly less to gain from dating than women do. The financial burden only goes one way. The protection burden goes one way. Sex goes both ways. It's all costs for men and all gains for women.
Women should be paying us just for the chance to date us.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I chuckle about the rape histrionics in that if women wanted to be safe, they could date short, out-of-shape, beta males who fail shit tests. I'm unfortunately unavailable due to being married but I'm sure there are others out there free to date.
Seriously: These women are turned on by bad boys precisely so they can play victim. "he didn't listen to me when I said NO! but then he did! What a wimp!"
This was the case back in the 1980's when campus feminists held "take back the night!" marches holding up signs "no means NO!" yet they refused to criticize women for sending the mixed messages. Imagine men parking their cars unlocked in bad neighborhoods and then griping to police and the residents of the neighborhood that they were soft on crime.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Its tough being a woman. You are either suffering some unfair ill or you are acutely recovering from it or you are doing an unfair amount of work on something that you wanted (like having a tidy house or over styled hair). Its even dangerous meeting a man for dinner. In fact you have a statistically significant chance of being murdered every day. Its lower than a man's chance of being murdered but its still no fair. NO FAIR! men need to support women cos life is NO FAIR!
Faced by such a woman a man has one choice -get involved in the misery or pass. I always passed. Once or twice it took me longer to figure out what sort she was than it should have but once I did, I always passed. In the end I thought that taking on the burden of someone like that's misery and insecurity was not worth the benefit (pussy access if and when she felt like it). It just wouldn't be a fair trade.
Women set the price, men who are able to meet the price buy or not. I strongly advise men to purchase more carefully as recent generations have out bid each other for low value.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
When the bill arrives, I always ask the question:
If the answer is no, I'm splitting the bill. I only pay for the first date if I'm getting laid on the first date.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
To be honest, it should be 50/50 and getting laid on the first date. that is the only way.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
IIRC back in the 80s, if she wasn't interested in fucking you, she can offer to go Dutch, otherwise you were in like Flynn.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
I don't pay for the first date at all (unless it's like a coffee or something).
Women who want to fuck me don't expect me to pay for dinner.
JudgeSmales 1mo ago
How can we not heed the valuable wisdom of this overgrown Valley Girl? After all, she's a "relationship expert." Does that come with a cape and a secret decoder ring?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
Done! (I'm not as adept at poetry. Blunt talk is more my style :-)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Thank you kind sir! I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!
TJMS 1mo ago
Female verbal diarrhea about how equality doesn't mean actual equality or whatever
The thing about a market economy is, it doesn't matter what this woman thinks, men can "vote with their wallets" and walk away from paying for dates.
In this case, it's a wonderful thing.
I'm at the point where I won't pay anything more than the cost of coffee on a date until we're banging.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I don't understand any of her hamster logic. Men should always pay for dates because:
1) Women are more at risk for... bad things happening on dates? Even if I cede this, it doesn't explain why men should pay for her food. Also, men are more at risk than women in relationships, because women instigate domestic violence more often.
2) Women have to pay more for a date because she wants to look like a different person? Dressing simply, cheaply, and without fake/gay masks never enters her mind. My wife's entire outfit for going out is worth less than this broad's left shoe, because she is modest in public and saves her nice sexy things for my eyes only.
3) Men get more out of a relationship? Yeah ok. First of all, there is no relationship when you're dating, and increasingly no expectation of one - it's a simple food for sex prostitution arrangement. Secondly, a woman with this attitude will never make a successful wife or even girlfriend. It's all about her: her body, her freedom, her choices. No wonder she's divorced. And any subsequent men she dates only get a more jaded, uglier, fatter version of the original model, insufferable to begin with.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I rented a room from a woman in Hollywood Hills who wrote a relationship book and these were her rationalizations 30 years ago. It's the same nonsense: "Men should pay because... we're entitled" but in the end, it comes down to: "Pay or else I dump you so you can't have sex with me."
This drives a fundamental paradigm of modern relationships that smart men simply don't think about the "relationship" as such until he has sex with her, but he needs to hide it while at the same time admitting he wants sex if she asks (the shit test). If he's a "nice guy" and wants a romantic relationship, he either gets fleeced during dating until she's "ready to settle down" or she gets the ick and dumps him anyway. It's rather ironic that traditional beta dating is largely a waste for most modern men.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
The only good thing to come out of this is knowing that enough men now don't believe her bullshit that she has to resort to making videos about it.
20 years ago, it was considered the automatic expectation that men paid. No one had to make a video to "convince" men to do it.
That said, of course her reasons are pretty awful.
Physical danger has markedly decreased for women, especially compared to the 80s/90s. Kidnappings, violent crime, etc. etc. has decreased drastically. Meaning women are much safer now. Plus, no one is asking this woman to go home with a strange man on the first date. Meeting someone in public at a restaurant is hardly some life-threatening risk. Otherwise, why do they go alone and eat by themselves? If restaurants are such dens of scum and villainy, no woman, or group of women, should ever be allowed to go to them without male chaperones and/or a security detail. Preferably with a burka on to keep men from being consumed by their lust (who knew Saudi Arabian men were the original feminists?!)
Second, most guys I know, would far, far rather, for a first date, have a woman come out naturally. No makeup, simple t-shirt and jeans. Sure, you can have some personal style, but we'd rather see you as you really are, than some dolled up version that has no resemblance to what you'll look like the morning after. Of course, after dating, there are times when you might want your woman to get dressed to the nines, either because the function requires it, or because you want to show her off as arm candy. But for the first date? Heck no. That's all on women who are trying to deceive men into believing they're prettier than they actually are.
And of course, #3, the biggie. A relationship is not more beneficial to a man. Not when divorce rape exists. For those two years while she was putting her body through pregnancy, who was schlepping to work and putting in the hours to earn the money for her to stay home? If you think a 9 month pregnancy is so hard and destroys your body, try being a construction worker for 40 years and let us know how your back feels.
There's a reason why dowries existed: because women were generally seen as economic burdens, and a man, by taking that burden off a woman's father, was given money to compensate. That reason still exists today (although for different reasons: plenty of women have jobs, but because they all want to marry up, their husbands are usually richer, and therefore, any divorce with a 50/50 split will naturally favor the woman).
Regardless, she can spout whatever nonsense she wishes to, or whatever gets her clicks on tiktok. Just the fact that she has to do it means guys are seeing through this charade, and if they don't want to pay for a date, women either agree to split the cost, or stay home.
Story time: One of the girls i used to hang out with, in her early 20s, hot blonde, was actively looking for a guy (she had a crush on me, but I was married). Anyway, she was telling me about one of her dates. It was with a medical student. And basically, they went to a cheap fast casual-type restaurant. He bought her a coffee, but otherwise, they each paid for their own meals there. She obviously held it against him, saying stuff like "I believe in equality and everything, but come on now!" I didn't say anything, but I was secretly smiling inside, cheering on the unknown dude. At that time, she had a job, while he was still a poor student, so technically, she actually out-earned him. If anything, she should have paid for them both. And if she was smart, she'd have done so: for a $10 investment, she would have so surprised him that he would have genuinely thought of her as wife material, and in a few years, he'd be making sweet doctor money and probably would have taken her along for the ride.
Instead, she dismissed him because, as a poor student, he couldn't afford to pay for her dinner, never once considering that in a few years, he'd be making several multiples of her salary, and if she didn't hitch herself to him now, when competition was low, if she ever decided to come back in a few years, he'd have tons of far better women throwing themselves at him that she'd need to beat out. All for a refusal to invest $10 that she could have easily spared...
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
And on top of that he would be way more likely to not have the time and patience to waste on getting into a committed relationship/marriage at that point too. Surgeons and the like are notorious for working long hours.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Back in the 1950’s before mass cheap labor immigration, DEI, and when one could literally work their way through medical school, it was common for waitresses to hitch their wagon to a student and “build” a future together. The classic justification for alimony was the wife who “worked as a waitress while he went to medical school and abandoned her for the cute nurse”.
I noticed as well how arrogant and stupid such women are, particularly the OP, for thinking of entitlement as some kind of virtue. That’s why I flaired her as entitlement queen: She’s a single mother and yet she claims she brings more to the table? I concede that women have more vulnerability with pregnancy but she brings another man’s kids to a relationship, so now she’s at the bottom of the barrel. If she was smart, she’d be Betty Crocker on him and bring homemade cake and bread to a date for him to take home to his mother, that kind of stuff. Like you said, they really are so selfish they’re dumb.
The “hazard pay” rationalization is hilarious in that if she’s so worry about being safe, why is she engaging in quid-pro-quo games with a total stranger? She should stick to low key dates, meet for coffee and without makeup, as you say. Again, that’s how it was in the old days. It’s a cheap (pun intended) rationalization, nothing more.
Next, there’s the man should pay for her, get this, because she’s naturally unattractive and needs makeup? That’s like asking women to pay for our elevator shoes or car detailing because ordinarily we’re slobs. Don’t get me wrong in that I think it’s feminine and nice when they “make an effort” to show they want us to see them as pretty, but when it comes at a cost there’s a word for that: Manipulation.
Finally, I think it was Joker who said that women who are chronically single like to work as “dating coaches” for other women to hide their own failures. Her “advice” is largely the standard entitlement rationalizations women already know sort of like men paying to hear: “You ought to learn how to play video games better because real women will want to clean up your place for the fun of it.” As you say, it’s GOOD we don’t interrupt their mistakes in that this is largely ineffective on most reasonably intelligent men.
If the plump food court worker I shyly asked out back when I was a university student at 22 had come with a sweet attitude I’d probably have wound up far less interesting than I am now. In the rest of the world, women are simply not this stupid (not necessarily more moral, but at least not as stupid.)