Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago Stickied
Shameless self-plug:
The maturity myth.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Good plug
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Hard not to. It was apt.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
if you are wondering just how far women will take their preference for 'unsuitability' ... apparently the answer is 'there is no limit'. It's well know that women love men that hate women (and hate men that love women) but have a look at this
https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/319946/women_hate_themselves_proof/7805821/
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago
@typo-magashiv I think this is the female version of those "would not bang" memes :-)
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Hah, I was kind of thinking the same thing.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It's the hero/anti-hero edge she's talking about. To women, a man who looks dangerous is attractive because it appears like he is a high testosterone risk-taker. If he looks safe/responsible she immediately thinks BETA!!! More succinctly, they are attracted to the risk-taker as a short-term fling. Alpha Fucks as we like to say. This also plays out with the dark triad personality traits.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
We should all get t-shirts printed with the slogan "I have NO idea where my birth cert is" as a homage to how great of a post this is by Kevin 32.
Of course, it would be a lie (we all know where are birth certs are) but it would just make women fall at our feet, right?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
I know where my birth certificate is: it's in the fireproof safe where I keep my passport and other important papers.
I have four 401k's (every time I switched companies I ended up with another one). I also have a lifetime military pension.
I own my house and both of my cars outright. I have a platinum credit card... and I zero it out at least once a month. My credit score is 822... not that it matters much because I don't spend money I don't have. It would be even higher if I had more lines of credit... but I just have the one.
I haven't been in a fight since grade school, and I never even yelled at any of my subordinates in 20+ years in uniform. I tip well and I'm polite.
I've never taken illegal drugs and I've never been arrested. I've had a security clearance continuously for more than 40 years.
I go to church. I have a job. I'm nice to animals. I know which fork to use. I work out every day and eat a healthy diet. I'm a bit of a clean freak and my house is immaculate, and that extends to my personal hygiene.
I have no expensive hobbies or significant vices.
Fortunately I'm already married, because while I was under the impression that the things I listed were good, apparently a lot of women hate that sort of stuff.
fskfsk 12mo ago
Don't keep four 401(k)s. When you switch jobs, roll it over to an IRA. You have more investment options with an IRA (if you pick right). A lot of employer plans have hidden fees or high fees. You also can even lose your money if the employer goes bankrupt and robs the pension plan.
If you don't know what to do for investments, just pick an S&P 500 index fund and you'll do better than 95% of investors.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
That's terrible Lurker, you really must try harder, or none of the ladyeez are going to want your seed. Go and get rid of all your savings, get a face tattoo, a drug habit, a leather jacket, some convictions for actual bodily harm, a motorbike (on credit) and move into shared accommodation with some low level drug dealers. that ought to fix it.
AlwaysStoic 1y ago
While this tweet is obviously a reflection of the mentality of this woman and many others, there is something else that s striking. These woman, with no money, have actually been brainwashed by the hyper feminine society to think they could be in a position to reject someone like him. The high opinion these clearly low income low social status broads have about themselves is a delusion that will never not amuse me. A man wouldn't go around saying 'Margot Robbie appears way too uptight' and pretend that he ever had a chance with her.
DextroShade 1y ago
Good on the dude s in there calling out these trash. Any woman that thinks a man being responsible is unattractive is an utterly broken woman who has lost her soul to the streets. After these hoes are done getting ran thru by thugs and finally want to settle down 300 dicks and 3 kids later men like Michael B. Jordan won't go anywhere near them. They can buy a dog and die ALONE.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Women don't think, women feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
You can be responsible AND project danger/excitement.
It's all about perception with broads.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Street whores can only see thugs, pimps and marks.
voskresenie 11mo ago
yeh but none of us want them anyway. but there /are/ genuinely attractive women who have a similar mentality, and learning how to project danger while being responsible is useful in those situations.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I have a theory on the "bad boy" attraction (which is clearly no myth at this point) and part of it is that women take decent treatment from men as granted. They feel that if they can shame men as "real men" to give them what they want, why should they reward or respect such men for something she is entitled to? It's like women who treat service workers like garbage because "he HAS to serve me if he wants his paycheck".
To admit that they need to EARN the recognition from decent, responsible men is what we refer to as "feminine" but they regard as "oppression" or "demeaning". "Boss babes" are so wonderful and great, they just have to demand or "have standards".
The irony of the modern era is that as more men "wake up" or are "woke" (in a good way), they come to realize that giving undeserved protection and providership to women only makes these women regard them as weak. In a manner of speaking, "bad boys" make themselves more attractive like women wearing makeup. We are entering an anti-chivalry era.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago
I think all of the theories given in this thread on women's attraction to bad boys have nuggets of truth, and I'd add my own 2 nuggets:
Firstly, the allure of a bad boy is often the challenge of taming them. That is, getting a bad boy who beats and kills everyone else, but is tender and sweet to you makes you feel special in a way that a guy who's nice to everyone doesn't. It's a little bit of a the reverse of a woman playing hard to get. If a guy bought all of his previous girlfriends nice jewelry, then him buying you a tiffany ring doesn't make you feel special. But if he put all of his previous girlfriends in the hospital but bought you a knockoff cubic zirconia fake $5 earrings for your birthday, then you feel special and you're definitely better than all his previous bitches.
These women are saying the wouldn't feel special with MBJ because he looks like he treats everyone with respect, so how are you supposed to feel special?
Secondly, and this is applicable mainly to western women: many are addicted to bad boys precisely because they know that, push-comes-to-shove (literally), society will protect them from him. It's like going on an amusement park ride: no one would deliberately go on a moving vehicle that careens up and down and loops around at high speed unless they know that it is as safe as driving the speed limit on a local road. As long as you can take the safety for granted, why not experience the drama and adrenaline of almost crashing (As long as you can depend on a bunch of engineers making sure that you never actually do crash)?
In this case, why not experience the drama of dating a thug bad boy ex-convict as long as you believe that society's safety net (white knights, your family, the cops, govt welfare, etc) will keep you from truly being harmed?
Guys abhor drama because we know we'll face the consequences of it. Most guys avoid fights, even ones they would likely win, because we know that even when emerging victorious, bad things can happen during the chaos: you can break bones, the other guy can press charges and have you arrested, you will definitely be thrown out of the bar, etc. And that's if you win. If you lose, you might face a lifetime of disability or even death. Why risk all of those outcomes for some stupid, temporary adrenaline rush?
But girls don't believe anything truly bad will ever happen to them. Western women have been so protected and sheltered all their life that they can't even see that dating an ex-con who was jailed for beating his previous girlfriend to a bloody pulp puts her at stunningly high risk of ending up in the hospital herself. Women fighting tends to be fingernail scratching, hair pulling, and open handed slaps, i.e. stuff that might hurt but doesn't cause lasting damage. Then they're surprised that guy fighting means closed fists with a windup that easily leads to broken faces, rib fractures, and sometimes internal bleeding.
If you're a middle class, sheltered young woman whose biggest physical danger from a guy was when a guy raised his voice or maybe called you a whore, and you were able to get him expelled by running to the teacher, you have no idea of the potential for violence and other life-altering consequences of dating a man who society literally exiled because he was deemed too dangerous to live among the rest of us. And living in that blissful ignorance, why not hop on the drama roller coaster ride? Surely there are engineers in the background making sure you'll be safe, right?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Between, let's say 60,000 years ago and 100 years ago, women didn't want to live a life of hardship to raise Badboy's seed. Without a welfare state AND feminism, women were socially stigmatized by rape or raising bastard children so they lived cautiously and modern feminists regard this era as "oppression" and in some ways they have a point. Women had to be careful when they went out on their own and if they were socially stigmatized by rape, they would have significantly reduced options on the marriage market. Families would send off their daughters who slept with a badboy off to the nunnery to live their live saying prayers and doing menial labor and the child to an orphanage.
It's fascinating, therefore, how modern women are PROUD to be trainwrecks with multiple children by different loser men, living in poverty, being "victims" of assault they could have prevented, and even getting awards for walking around university campuses with mattresses on their backs (this actually happened.) Being a loser, and bearing the children of psychos, is feminism's contribution to western society.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women killed chivalry and then wondered why White Knights are getting rarer.....
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
If you have the time, such as when you're waiting for a train or perhaps sitting drinking coffee, please consider reading the Nobel prize winning classic With Fire and Sword by Henryk Sienkiewicz which is a classic example of period chivalry. Sort of like the ultimate romance novel and great date movie. Also a wonderful film with classic cinematography. Did you like Conan The Barbarian? Well, this is like that but you can watch with a girl! (at least one who can handle subtitles, sadly, many American women can't.) Another read (I haven't gotten to yet) is Don Quixote which was a parody of chivalry which wound up becoming a description of modern chivalry much like how 1984 was a prophesy.
nicknack 1y ago
Plenty of them still around. Just look at any wedding photographers Instagram. Guys marrying women 5-6 points SMV below them, covered in tats.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Your theory is flawed in my opinion because of the initial premise. Let me explain.
When you say "bad boy" you are implicitly acquiescing to the female mental frame.
Substitute "bad boy" with "virile man that gives me the tingles".
Men forget that the present modern comforts we enjoy are foreign to our biological design. Women evolved for hardship. They evolved to survive the savanna, not cushy city life. They evolved to navigate a world populated with strong and often ruhless men, not nice guy beta brad.
Pussy gets moist at the sight and perception of strength (wether physical, mental, social etc.) Not morality or principle. The latter are secondary considerations, topings.
That is how women survived and passed on their genes in a ruthless world.
Strong ruthless men that seem able to handle the tribulations of tumultuous life are favored by vaginas.
Be they kind or responsible? That's just a plus.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Socio-biological explanations of women's dating preferences reminds me of Roosh's claim that he read somewhere that we evolved to like the taste of sweets because our ancient ancestors rarely encountered sweets in the wild so the rare times we got fruits, we'd gorge on them because we'd rarely get access to them later. Our nature is that what is pleasant to us kills us in large doses just as heroin in small doses may be good, but get someone an IV and they'll rot away on it.
Note that the pre-civilized dawn of man was anti-civilized. Barbaric thugs undermined the comfortable civilization we have today hence why civilization enforced monogamous marriage to protect itself even if it wasn't comfortable to women's instincts just as we don't have Heroin and Crack kiosks on every street corner. It would be pleasurable, but our civilization would collapse. What "worked" in ancient times was that the thugs could 'ravage' (I have a worse term for that) women and breed with a hundred women until he was tracked down and killed for being a "ravager" but the "damage" would be done: he would have dozens of descendants while the "nice guys" who protect women and raise their offspring would only have 2 kids on average each. So thuggery as a biological advantage and even if he's caught and killed at 25, like guys behind bars after their thug life, biologically they are successful and women retain an attraction to them.
Hence the "dual mating" scenario: Get knocked up by thug who provides ZILCH to the survival of his kids "deadbeat dads" and even harms the woman and then the "nice guys" remain as the support system after she shames them for not "stepping up" to help her. In nature, this is why most animals haven't evolved beyond just foraging for food and living in natural caves. It's why women's "liberation" has trashed a western civilization that took 2 millennium to build in under 3 generations.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"bad boy" is not "virile man that gives me tingles" ...you could be virile and know where your birth cert is. You could be virile and treat women well. These broken sluts are saying that they do not care if he is virile, what they want is an irresponsible man that acts in a dangerous and violent way. They do not want a kind or responsible man. They want Bobby Brown, Ike Turner, Chris Brown, OJ Simpson, Dr Dre. That's what gets them wet.
Its much more fucked up that you could possibly imagine. I bet you 10 to 1, any money you like, that after OJ got arrested for killing his wife, the amount of sexual attention he got from women went up 10 fold. Let's be real - he got off because the jury didn't want to seem racist. We all know he killed his wife. And women all over the world were salivating at OJ after that. To know that he was a violent degenerate was not enough, its not enough to just beat women, actually killing them puts you in a totally different class.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
I agree, women have a masochistic streak.
Let me illustrate my point differently.
MBJ can know where his birth certificate is and still project danger.
A neck or sleeve tattoo and a nonchalant attitude can give just the right edge that women fantasize about without outright drinking virgin blood.
It's just about perception for these broads. Often it's enough.
voskresenie 11mo ago
Exactly. It's not that they know he knows where his birth certificate is and thus are unattracted to him. It's that he /looks/ like he knows where it is. They have no idea whether he actually does, he might have no idea, but that doesn't matter. If he looked like danger, even if he told them he knew where his birth certificate was, they wouldn't care, because the birth certificate isn't the point.
Lionsmane8 11mo ago
Same with wearing glasses.
Smh females and other people equate that with intelligence.
Which is not the case.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Awarding you Jr. Hamster Analyst tag for your consistent quality comments, including this one.
cc: @kevin32, @typo-magashiv
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
much appreciated.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
@lurkerhasarisen, @loneliness-inc
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Who did you award?
It's hard to follow, which comment is in response to which.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/319854/michael_b_jordan_is_the_tall_successful_high_value_man_women/7804852
PS: not sure why, but I don't see notifications for your recent comments.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
I see notifications for your comments
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
cc: @redpillschool. Are the notifications working fine for everyone else?
redpillschool Everybody tag him 1y ago
They got caught by the spam filter and were temporarily in no notification mode.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Hi Lionsmane and PolishKnight,
Im going to join in and posit that you both have valid points here, but there is another unifying theory that would explain womens preference for BadBoyz: It's because they know they are going to be get treated like shit.
When a woman sees a guy with neck tats, a criminal record, bankruptcy plus debts, drug use, pants around his ankles, blacked out windows on his souped up car and a body count of 300, she knows that she is going to get treated like the dog shit that she is, which makes her wet. What trashy women really want is a man that hates them as much as they hate themselves.
Here's a thought experiment: if she did manage to LTR a gang banger, and he reformed his character and showered her with love and respect, then she would get the dry and run off with some other criminal that would beat her, steal her money and cheat on her.
The thing that makes it so hard to understand is that none of this is logical or rational - the hardest truths to behold are the ones that do not make any sense.
You write "Be they kind or responsible? That's just a plus"
You've completely missed the point, and you're not reading what all those broken sluts have written. They are saying that BECAUSE he is responsible they are getting the dry. It's not a plus at all. They're looking for an irresponsible train wreck of a man to beat them and treat them like the shit that they are.
They only part of all this that is rational (to a point) is that they have probably all had fathers that were disasters - if your daddy was a drug addicted, wife beating banrupt lowlife, that's what you'll be attracted to.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
@Lionsmane8 @polishknight @DextroShade @Boar_excrement @nicknack
I've written about this phenomenon several times, including as recently as a few days ago. I should probably make a separate post about it. The problem these women have is that they cannot differentiate between masculinity and machismo, and they end up with men who can't, either.
The banishment of masculinity in large portions of society has created a vacuum which has been occupied by cartoonish displays of machismo.
Absent and/or immasculated fathers are the primary cause, and strong fathers who are present is the primary solution. Demography is destiny, and a society that delegates demography solely to the whims of flighty young women with no guidance is in a death spiral, because each succeeding generation with have more "cads" and fewer "dads" than the one before.
Hopefully more later in a separate post.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Due to womanist empowerment of women combined with hyperchivalry, women became increasingly masculine (in the toxic ways) along with the worst elements of femininity similar to, I'd equate, some rich kid whose never had to work for a living getting to do as he please without responsibility. I’m reminded of the cautionary parenting tales in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory of borgeous parents who indulge their kids including the tragically obese Gloop, MikeTV, Violet, and of course the worst of them all, Veruca Salt who is the embodiment of entitlement womanism. It’s amusing that the sweet actress who portrayed Salt had to be instructed by the director to release her “inner brat” because British children back then were still raised with discipline and values but to find a teenage girl to act like Salt today wouldn’t require much direction.
Anyhoo, my point being that privileged women being raised without moral direction of any kind can create these delusional demands in men that are contradictory and paradoxical like a dangerous amusement park ride that’s fun because it may kill you, but is also perfectly safe. They can dream of thugs because such a thug will impregnate many women, but at the same time she should be safe. They scream at beta males and the Patriarchal corporate oligarchs to make it all real for them while the powers that be just rake in the profits without a care as to the society collapsing (hence, Free Market corporatism is similar to the USSR’s collapse with Chernobyl except the Soviets got lucky that Chernobyl was a lot less harmful!)
Ironically, game only raised the bar and moved the goalposts with women believing that “game” is perfectly real and normal and that magical encounters where there’s now awkwardness before the guy beds her happens and that they can then leverage those later into healthy relationships. My father’s “game” with my mother at a dance in 1958 was that he asked her to dance, she said yes, he danced decently and asked for her phone number and… (back then) she said her name and he had to look her up in the phone book.
That was her shit test. That’s what it took to get her to stay married with him for life.
nicknack 1y ago
The same can be said for femininity as well. Society is also killing that. Try telling a random person that you want a woman who submits to you completely and see the visceral reaction. That’s why the women who role play (lie) as feminine get so much attention and male love because it’s missing today. Literally they hoe out during their best years then at 29 they pretend to be feminine and wife material and guys still buy it and marry them.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I'm chuckling because let's turn this around: For amusement (and material for this site), I scan feminist feeds for them talking and they find men who make such requests to be horrific while Eff Dee Ess commonly calls for men to be slaves to p-sleeve in the form of "happily" "man up" paying for her, protecting her, doing 1/2 of the housechores (equality where it suits her), putting up with her games, and respect her trad-feminism and share all of her political beliefs. They want biological sex robots paid off by transactional sex.
Back in the 1980's, I knew guys who took that deal happily and I found it disgusting. I could not live with being a slave, even one who didn't get divorced and could still see my kids, to a woman dominatrix. I thought I was abnormal but it turns out, I was just sane in an insane society.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
I'll have to give that some thought before I make my post. Since machismo is the over-exaggerated behavior of a man who doesn't know how to be masculine, what would the female equivalent be? I'm thinking the "Madonna / Whore Complex" means that it could go one of two ways: either hyper-sexualized or hyper-submissive. It occurs to me that girls with extremely overbearing fathers might tend toward being hyper-submissive, while girls with no fathers (or weak fathers) would be likely to go the other way and become turbo-sluts.
Our culture (and laws) frown heavily on fathers being stern with their daughters, and girls who are "all gas no brakes" vastly outnumber girls who are "all brakes no gas." That's probably not a coincidence.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
The condition for femininity is submission and obedience by extension. Combativeness is a masculine trait.
It's seems that even the girls that look "hyperfeminine" on the surface have the proclivity to plot and scheme their way into more and more control over a man.
Many women are actually not looking for that great dominant masculine man, they're just looking for a decent sucker.
SSeuSS 1y ago
BPD? can be extremely feminine up to the point where she fucks her way into the brain of the man and then proceeds to destroy it in any possible way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQeEgO8eBOI
Lionsmane8 1y ago
I agree with you on everything. Except maybe for the reason why they are like that.
Why I say that? Because I date almost exclusively girls in the 18-25 range that come from stable families with both parents present (some religious, muslim) typically higher on the socio economic ladder, strong father figure (sometimes over protective) no tattoos or drug problem and very low (if not non-existent) body count and despite all of that, they still exhibit the same tendencies as their broken counterparts (albeit a toned down version of that).
All have a fascination with psychopaths, enjoy being insulted and toyed with, have a strong masochistic streak and only seem to respect you if you are mean to them.
If you're not making them cry, then you are connecting deeply enough with them, and all seem to be aware of how twisted their little minds are.
I think it's a feature, not a bug.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
great observations. I think the issue is getting (has gotten?) way worse. There were always women that were attracted to bounders and cads back in the day. It wasn't a main stream fetish for women. And the consequences of shaking up with a woman hater were pretty severe. In the old days, poverty mean starvation or the work house. For you and your bastard.
Culturally, in mainstream media, we are only allowed to see two versions of men: good guys which are all gay or adopt the stance of gay men OR criminal thugs which are straight.
You can argue all day long about whether David Beckham / Ronaldo / George Clooney are actually gay or not (I think they are) but the thing to remember here is that they may as well be. Men have to go so far over to the gay side these days (if they want to be accepted in Hollywood) that they are basically what I would call 'castrated gays'... as in, they are basically gay, but they're not getting any cock.
The only other kind you can have are usually black, have anger issues, come from the streets, uneducated, rough, violent etc.
So women look at the choices that they have - its gay or violent criminal.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Pop culture and mainstream has really done a number on all of us. Who thougt that some people (and most women) really do take the bullshit they see on a screen at face value
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
truth is stranger than fiction.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
One of the justifications for womanist/chivalry is that "women make babies so they're more valuable" but there's a caveat to that: After they squeeze out their kids, what makes them any less disposable than us men? In pre-civilized times, if a man bred with women and didn't help her support her offspring, it was advantageous to him to be a "deadbeat dad" and particularly if the woman died after raising her children to adulthood, then why would nature care?
Heck, Riddle me this: Cats, for example, remain fertile THEIR ENTIRE LIFETIME. That means that perhaps since women died off naturally after being abandoned by 'bad boys", nature decided to not bother extending their fertility window.
Consider the Praying Mantis where a male who breeds understands he's likely to die. They breed knowing that although their lives end, their DNA heritage goes on. Just as men sacrifice for their kids (as good as that is, I'm a father), women may do the same:
"Sure, my life stinks as a single mom to a hood rat who charmed me, but if he's "cool" he probably bred with dozens like me. But hey, those genes in my male offspring will have several more generations than a "nice guy" who helps raise the child better and takes care of me."
This notion of women wanting a "protector/provider", therefore, is...
100% ROMANTIC BULLSHIT!!!
They LIKE a comfy life and certainly want to demand it from beta-boys but they don't find those men sexually desirable hence the dual-mating strategy. So being a "gentlemen" is something that actually turns women OFF and they only pretend to like this to get the goodies or due to "oppression" in that the "oppressive" society doesn't provide her with welfare state benefits to rut.
Give women free agency to breed in a welfare state is like passing out Heroin and crack on street corners hoping people will be "smart enough" to use it judiciously and still earn a living responsibly.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Actually women were the gatherers of the hunter/gatherer tribal system so they were complementary in terms of nature. They even evolved advanced color sensitivity to help them spot ripe berries and what not. So any guy who wanted a stable place to live and eat stuff that takes all day to collect had to get with a woman and protect her. Any woman who wanted protection and meat had to get with a man.
Under tribalism, men had a hierarchy based on merit and/or dominance. The top dog usually got first choice of a mate and the underlings got what was left. So if you were some beta guy you probably got with the ugly chick nobody else wanted to fuck but at least you got the greater protection of the tribe so long as you were useful and the tribe got an extra set of hands.
See, people think there was some alpha going around impregnating all the women and that's why more women reproduced than men but it's more likely that there were women the alpha didn't want to fuck or didn't have time or resources for and lots of men died before successfully reproducing or their children were killed by another tribe.
Fast forward to today and protection and provisioning is guaranteed by the state and all these women gather anymore is body counts and checks. So there is no need for a man, at least in their mind. Even if they're not on welfare or child support they can still get protection and resources. We, as men, need to come to terms with this. Getting rid of welfare isn't the solution to our reproductive problem.
We need better tools to solve this problem. We have DNA testing to solve it one way. We have internet to solve it another way(hoe-fax). Red pill to solve it another way. I think what we're missing is competition in the sexual marketplace. If we legalize prostitution and let women compete globally with each other for the prostitution dollars, there would be a race to the bottom in which sex would reach an equilibrium price on par with other services. $15/hr for a HB5, $30/hr with an HB10. So then men would have a choice whether to date a housewife for $30 or fuck a hoe for $30. I'd probably try to fuck all the hoes when young and then date a housewife later on.
When you really think about it, it boils down to women having all the power because of how society has been structured. As men, we can just leave and get women elsewhere - both housewives and hoes. We need to make it easier for men to do this as individuals.
So we have both collective and individual goals we could be working towards to rebalance society. I think we will still have the same phenomenon where women are 50/50 hoes/housewives and there will be 50% of women unwed and childless working as prostitutes or spinsters.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I was wondering to myself "What did a King do with all the children of his haram?" I read that many of these boys were killed to keep them from competing with the top pick of the throne. In other cases, they can be sent off to what we considered the "working middle class" such as the clergy, knights, and bureaucrats. Even so, like you said, most of the serf men would get a female if only because if serf men don't reproduce, then whose going to do his work in his place? Would the King send his male sons of his harem into serfdom?
The USA is a perfect storm of a culture that treats its men with disdain similar to that I read how serfs were treated in feudal societies in the 1700's: with utter contempt by entitled nobles. Feminism, corporatism, even most of the religions offer young man little today for his loyalty. It's interesting we have a sort of feudal class: working class women, who enjoy many entitlements similar to, say, a 100th son of a harem would enjoy over a serf.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
The children were broken down into legitimate vs illegitimate. An illegitimate child and it's mother would be sent off to be kept secret. The need to kill off illegitimate males had to do with them competing with the legit male heirs. Sometimes it was the father doing this and sometimes it was the half-brothers. Keep in mind this all came after religion and the claim of rulers to be rulers by divine right. Like they were some kind of line of divine beings and therefore their sons had the same divinity.
Today, we do have a similar class system where women are first-class and men are second-class.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
The way I think "conservatism"/libertarianism worked was this: "You don't need identity groups to get ahead! They limit you! The best geniuses got started in a garage and, with low taxes, became billionaire entrepreneurs and, with low taxes, get to keep all that stuff they earned! So just become alpha!" It's a similar message I've heard from Richard Cooper "Just become Alpha!" And... if you fail, then you're a "loser" and don't deserve pity anyway hence modern white guys get the double message "If you succeed, you're privileged so why should I care about you and if you lose, you're a pathetic loser so the world is better off with you!"
In the meantime, the other groups get special "disenfranchised" privileges along with their groups actually doing things for them. It's like a poker game where the "sucker" is chosen and the other players all play against him to drain him and split up the proceeds afterwards.
Women were the first identity group but the west replaced royal feudalism with mercantilism or the wealthy as a class justified by their wealth. Again, some guy in a garage is sometimes successful which validates ALL the wealthy whose multiple generations got ahead by their connections noting that even Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg didn't come from a trailer park but rather the upper class and Gates' mother got him that meeting with IBM to give him a golden ticket on an operating system monopoly.
Men bought into it with the dream of "striking it rich" and fantasies such as comic book superheroes thinking "If I had magic powers, then I could be a hero and loved AND have everything I want!" In a way, that's as unrealistic as the delusional entitlement schemes that women think up watching Disney Princess movies (ironic that Marvel and Disney have combined for delusional entitlement movies to suit both sexes.)
Being a decent person and earning an honest living is regarded as a sucker game. The women will largely treat you as a barely sub-human beta (or even Omega), the society will replace you with AI or a foreign worker at the drop of a hat, and you're reminded to defend the society because, if you strike it rich, you can keep all your property with lower taxes!
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
So much has changed since women got the vote that it's hard to make sense of things. The best I can come up with is we have a male hierarchical system based on merit/dominance, and a female communal/safety system. Instead of a left vs right thing what we have is an "appeal to women" vs "appeal to men and their female allies/wives". Since women are the majority they have been systematically voting in things that appeal to them such as free preschool, free kindergarten, free day care, free school lunches, abortion, gun bans, etc. Every so often the men get something passed and it will likely be tax cuts, family stuff, smaller gov't, deregulation, etc.
That's how they get the votes. Obviously what they do, once in office, is all corporate interests. The rest is all smoke and mirrors. I just avoid getting caught up in the herd. I try not to get into the us vs them that politicians use. I just go my own way. As the Chinese say, "let it rot".
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
A lot was going on. Here's something I like to point out to "progressives" to blow their minds: Enlightenment was meant to take power away from the elites, such as the royals and well connected, and give it to the people in the form of populist democracy. The founding fathers of the USA feared the popular vote, but somehow also feared the government and hoped for “checks and balances” but instead we got a swamp that was a playground for corruption.
Chivalry, even at that time, undermined the empowerment of the common man as feminism/“suffragettes” formed a voting bloc, but as you point out, men voted for common interests and “raise all boats”. With the under-the-table reparations program of the 1960’s in the form of affirmative action that merely just was a goodie grab for all but white males, working class men and/or white men were transformed openly into serfs in a system that made women voters as useful dupes for corporate interests. Feminism and white male bashing has killed off the kind of working people’s rebellion as epitomized by my coal mining Polish great-grandfathers who would have zilch to do with modern leftists today and vice-versa. I point out to the left that they did more to make the USA, and Sweden for that matter, into a third world corrupt cesspool than they did to make the USA and the third world more like ABBA era Sweden.
Yeah, a “lot going on” as in, what a mess.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah I have Scottish ancestors so a long history of fighting feudal lords and fighting for freedom. Our clan slogan was "deeds, not words" but that got co-opted by feminists and history rewritten. Let it rot.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
People often conflate vulnerable and valuable.
Also the point you make is solid.
What's the use of an aging woman after pumping and raising kids up to their teens?
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Well, historically speaking, a woman would lose several of her children so you'd need to make a lot of babies to get a few to carry on your genes.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You raise an interesting point. The big difference between humans and other complex mammals is the unusually long juvenile period of our young, coupled with the large physical discrepancy between females and males.
For bears, the male is only needed to inseminate the female. Its 30 seconds of thrusting, then adios ...forever. The male is not required. The bear cubs have quite a long juvenile period, but its about 16-17 months and then they go out on their own. The female bear is so large that they can hunt and kill food. It is able to look after 2 or 3 cubs for 17 months by her self.
By contrast, with humans, the 'cubs' are juvenile for at least 10 years, and lone females are at extreme risk of predation and have little to no hunting skills and much reduced physical strength. A lone human female with 2-3 juveniles will not even have to worry about starvation because they won't last long enough in the wild to actually get hungry! They will be the easiest snack any predator has ever encountered.
That is why men are MORE important than women after childbirth. The reality is that men want to pair bond with female humans in order to ensure that our offspring survive into puberty, so that our genes don't die out. That is the origin and cause of our nurturing spirit - its entirely logical. The males that did NOT stick around in our pre-historical times, they are the ones whose blood lines died out. The nurturing protective male gene is the one that survived. The one that wants to rape women, beat the shit out of them, steal all the snacks and then leave...thats the recessive gene.
(an interesting aside - the Victorian proclivity to romanticise everything is the origin of our collective blindness to the 'facts of life' - and modern women twisted it even further. So, they like to think that men want to protect and nurture them (the wife) because they are so special and 'the one', true love and romance etc etc when in reality, its nothing of the sort. Men are literally programmed by our genes to seek out a female and then impregnate them and then look after them (meaning the female and the offspring) as well as we can for as long as we can.)
The reason why modern hip hop / ghetto culture is such a car crash is that it is an inversion of human nature - the ghetto females are reproducing with the males that demonstrate the LEAST ability or desire to stick around and nurture. Which very quickly becomes cyclical - the offspring of a a ghetto slut that had a wife beating wanna be rapper as a babdy daddy,..... how likely are those offspring to transform into a constructive member of society?
the answer is obvious for all to see. The offspring exhibit the traits of their forebearers very quickly - wife beating, drug dealing thugs mating with ghetto sluts produce more criminals and ghetto sluts. Because they reproduce at a higher rate than the educated class, we have the urban decay that is very much in evidence today in any major city.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Being married produces moments that are hilarious. I ask my 7 year old daughter simple questions and she answers them logically but my wife hamster-wheel rationalizes things into something unreasonable.
In the western chivalrous/"equality" society, women can rut with bad boys and then yet both mock the "nice guys" she finds undesirable as loser incels while simultaneously blaming "all men" for "deadbeat dads". In discussion forums, they sometimes alternate between these conflicting narratives but there are rare moments when they're in the same comment and I gleefully point it out to them: "All" men aren't attractive AND deadbeats.
Another aspect of the chivalrous society are the white knights defending the "honor" of the rutting "lady" while attacking men calling out the rutting behavior using the same narrative believing the same conflicting narrative hoping to get some "rescuer action". Such men never get laid and I know 50 year old guys who are still hoping for a white knight payoff. That's a dead end gene pool right there.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yeah white knighting may as well serve as a confession on the part of the man that he has no other options/ability to get laid, which of course women will immediately realize and be sexually repelled by even if outwardly they damsel and flounce to keep the free resources and validation flowing.
I think that one of the most important services the manosphere offers men is the realization that while some men aren't going to be able to rise above omega male status without significant effort, they don't have to accept being a one-sidedly exploited omega male.
Or in other words, if some thot wants her computer fixed, she needs to pay in cash, not hair flips and eyelash flutters. And if her first try is the latter, then it is assured that she belongs to the streets.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
To elaborate, that is a r-selected strategy that is only "sustainable" (in the loosest sense of the word) in an environment with plentiful resources and just enough safety that raw rate of reproduction outpaces infant mortality.
But an r-selected strategy does not create or maintain such an environment, it is strictly parasitical/opportunistic. Allowing such a strategy free reign is a great way to devolve a society to mud huts and tribal warfare.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
excellent point. It's obvious that this underclass is leeching of the surplus created by the law abiding productive classes. They ghetto class survives on a combination of a) welfare b) theft of assets from the productive classes c) tolerance from the productive classes because they want to be seen as liberal / modern / caring / not racist.
When the transfer of value from the productive classes to the ghetto class becomes too great, then you will have "middle class flight" (they used to call it white flight back in the 70s but its been rebranded to be less racist). We're seeing it all over the developed world. Its quite well known to be occuring in places like Seattle and SFC, to lesser extent NY. But its happening at an alarming rate in Sweden, UK and France as well, but its not well known because its basically forbidden to talk about it.
If you think I am being alarmist when I say that its forbidden to talk about it, I'm not. 'Replacement theory' is a key component of ideology that is essentially banned in Europe. Any talk about that is enough to trigger online censorship. If you want to know where the trouble is brewing, pay attention to what you are not allowed to say. Replacement theory is not allowed in any of the political debates in Europe and is enough to have your party classified as domestic terrorism.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Weird. All industrialized countries have to replace their population at this point just due to lack of children. Otherwise they shrink, GDP goes down, deflation sets in, wages stagnate, etc. You can kinda sorta keep the party going with automation like Japan did but then you have 30 years of stagflation.
I don't see why people wouldn't be talking about this. It's not like some anti-white conspiracy. They're not replacing white people, white people aren't having kids... most likely due to social ills created by overpopulation. Personally, I think we should let the population reach equilibrium to the point where everyone has 40 acres, a mansion, and plenty of resources. I'd love to be able to fuck all day and crank out babies if it were economically feasible and I didn't have to worry about lines, crowds, excessive competition, etc.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
It's a very very touchy subject. The MSM and global elitists automatically equate any negative talk about immigration as racism. That is the way it works. You will quickly notice that global elitists (the WEF crowd) are very pro immigration, and for good reason - the higher they can push immigration, the lower wages go. Its very simple - increase the supply of labour, price of labour falls. This is the main an only political show in town in Europe over the last 20 years: the Globalists are trying to increase immigration, the population are protesting against it. The globalists conspire to agree - (the melding of Left and Right wing parties into a singular Neo-Liberal Globalist Monolith) so that the population don't have any choice.
It was worked for a while. Now the population are abandoning the 'centre' (the merged left and right neo-libearl globalist) in favour of more and more 'non standard' political parties - Italy is a great example. The response of the Davos crowd is to make any populist political party the subject of a crack down - they will call them 'far right' or 'extremist'. They are beginning to use the powers that they created for anti terror in order to crack down on non-globalist parties. We're seeing a shift in slow motion towards a destruction of political freedoms, and in effect, a slow motion demolition of democracy.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah I was just reading how red pill is now considered "violent extremism" by the FBI. It doesn't really make sense and how they describe us doesn't make sense but once you put it into context of an elitist agenda it makes sense. Lump the red pill with white nationalists and now you have this group opposing immigration which is bad for business. http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2023/Based%20FBI.pdf
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
yup. Its well known that various national intelligence agencies regard 'incel culture' as a terror threat, which would be hilarious if it weren't so serious. They really think that some geeks and dweebs not getting any action, and talking to each other on the internet is worthy of concern? ffs. And the real issues get ignored, such as NATO countries pouring hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and weapons into the most corrupt country on the planet - Ukraine. They really ought to be having a look at that. the idea that all won't end up being a problem is just stupid.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Oh but it IS a threat to the Sisterhood. Look at the backlash passport bros is getting. I've never seen anything like it before. As soon as something threatens the gynocracy it becomes censored, hate-listed, misogyny, etc. I mean we're all used to this by now but it just goes to show how the system works.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
what is passport bros?
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Black men who go abroad for foreign wives.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Specifically black men? why not all men? I didn't know that it had a racial component. I did realise that lots of men in the west are looking to the east for more suitable women.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
It's specific to them because they have their own set of issues. The entire group of all men who go abroad would have a different name like expats, passport gentlemen, etc. So there might be a group specific to white guys like passport dudes or whatever.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
The ruling classes in those areas don't want people noticing that selective enforcement of laws, mass importation of conflicting cultures, and the welfare state are tools being used in service of Anarcho-Tyranny to implement their desired neo-feudalist outcome where only the most abjectly obedient "vassals" get access to protection and provisioning so that they may rule uncontested.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
...obedient to the gynocracy. Keep that in mind as we proceed into female supremacy.
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DextroShade 1y ago
They never truly heal, they just realize they want a man's resources more than his dick.
wswZtyqNGQ 1y ago
"Healed" means aging out of Cad and Tyrone's market demographics.
reignoferror00 1y ago
Always up for that extra money and status; plus someone has to make real (and pay for) all that travelling they seem to fantasize about (or pay off the debt if she actually has travelled). Someone to take care of real adulting like paying off all those pesky bills that come in every month. Her money should only be for fun things.
When they get a bit longer in the tooth, there is an urgency to find a guy as her now newfound retirement plan.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
They'll still be trying to get some strange a la carte dick on the side though.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
"Dick a la Carte"
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
If she opens her legs for bad boys, she's trash.
Trash women don't stop being trash. Her past choices in men are her present and her future choices in men.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup, and divorce stats bare that out. Sure you’ll find ex-304’s that stay married and virtuous saints who get divorced, but in general, women who chase bad boys don’t just “clean up” and go for the good men. They’re thinking about the bad boys in the same way that the peaked in high school ex jock is thinking about that time he threw for 300 yards against the rival school.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
This is why I laugh whenever a woman admits to having had a "hoe phase".
Just like an addict who has been clean and sober for 20 years is still an addict, or a murderer who hasn't killed in 40 years is still a murderer: once a hoe, always a hoe.
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
"Women who fuck scum, will never gain access to my income".
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
apart from anything else, the women 'rejecting' MBJ on this thread are exhibiting industrial strength copium. The whole thing is a cope. They are rejecting him for being too responsible when in real life, MBJ wouldn't piss on any of these hoes if they were on fire. In real life, he wouldn't even notice them if he walked past them. They're overweight cleaners and other low life min wage NPC's with multiple bastard brats living out an absurd fantasy in which they get to reject HVMs.
I'm really not sure if they believe their own hype. I am truly stunned by the level of delusion that modern women are able to muster.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Oh they believe. I didn't think so either until Kevin Samuels exposed it.
Glitch2082 1y ago
Like that Chris Rock quote, ‘it’s like me boycotting Rihanna’s panties. I wasn’t invited.’
ZZoMBiE13 1y ago
MBJ? Those women likely couldn't get R Kelly to piss on them.
Oddest-One-Here 1y ago
They're too old for a start.
HmoobMikah 1y ago
In their delusional mind, they are pre-rejecting MBJ because they think that they are still in the choosing position. MBJ is a rich successful male with loads of options than every one of these female npcs. Now that they are older and uglier (we all get older and ulgier) they are the ones settling, and you should be grateful that they are picky YOU! Even if MBJ wasn't a famous movie star, but still kept his wealth, he wouldn't even bat an eye at these women because he knows that the same women today wouldn't have given the same time 20 years ago.
There's a clip of MBJ on the red carpet where he confronted his old hs classmate where she and her group of friends used to call him "corny". Now that he grew up, and became successful, these women who used to call him corny, are now giving him attention. Oh he was corny then, but now that he is a purple pill chad, all of a sudden he is wanted? Get out of here.
I don't hate women, and neither should MBJ. What's more sinister than hate, is indifference.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
Indifference is an aphrodidiac to women.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Morlocks and Eloi.
Except in this version the Morlocks are every scrublord dude that gets things done and keeps civilization running, and the Eloi are the spoiled little princesses that think electricity is automatic, heat just 'turns on' in the winter, and food magically appears on the shelves.
At times I don't want things to get super effed up, and we're headed into a pretty severe recession by the looks of things -- but at the same time if it did a total reset to these entitled bitches attitudes I think it could be a good thing in the long run.
Hard to be a instagram model/onlyfans hole plugger when you don't know where your next meal will come from.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
AI is now doing onlyfans modeling far better than real women. It's just a matter of time before the hoepocalypse hits.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
AF/BB in shameless display.
Take note, take note.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
It's strange how we never hear about 'toxic femininity' ....we can all talk about toxic masculinity but any mention of toxic femininity is going to get you banned and cancelled. The truth is probably that the two are intertwined.
If you've ever wondered why black men seem to behave in such anti social way in urban settings (much higher criminality rates) you could point to this conversation thread. It's because black women reward anti social behaviour (they only want criminals for sex) and ignore law abiding black men (he hasn't murdered anyone?? He's an accountant?? EEeeewwww).
It could be that black men in the ghetto are simply responding rationally to signals - black women will drop to their knees and suck them off in the bathroom of the club if they believe that they are violent criminals, but not if they think they are corporate lawyers. You get more sex as a drug dealer, so why bother going to university? This would also explain the 'wannabe gangsta' syndrome, where young black men who are actually at college studying pretend to irresponsible and criminal in order to get action. Its a tricky line for them to walk, because if they 'act gangsta' in front of the cops they get searched (which always has the risk of going south) and it also alienates white friends.
Kevin Samuels was wise to all of this and he held back a little bit, because he was on mainstream platforms and was worried about getting banned, but he more or less said it out loud - black men with their heads screwed on right nearly always stay away from black women because of their preferences.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I remember KS saying that there’s something like 2 million more black men married in America than black women. And given that there’s only, what, 15 million black men and black women of adult age in America, that’s a lot. That’s a lot of black men who have married Becky or Marisol, as Kevin would’ve said.
I refer again to the Ace NH situation. I’ve mentioned it here before, but he has a great dad, who was a disabled vet that grinded hard to provide his family a solid upper middle class life. Ace NH was even attending USF (and i believe finished). But he started running with trouble dudes in college. Ended up gunning down 2 guys in a recording studio and was able to establish enough doubt with a self defense argument (the studio owner was in the studio with them, so it’s plausible that the two guys were about to get violent themselves and Ace NH simply protected himself and the owner). He responded to his second chance at life by mowing down his pregnant gf because he “didn’t want to be a dad”.
Seems like a train wreck, and it is. But if he was simply responding to the signals and seeing that being an aspiring rapper thug is more appealing to women than grinding up to director of sales at age 30, then maybe he acted rationally in that regard. I bet the girlfriend he ended up turning into Swiss cheese wouldn’t have even given him the time of day if he were just a regular college guy.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Word. How are the bitchez gonna know that their baby daddy love them unless he takes handz to them? If you're in a black area and you see a black woman with a swollen eye, thats how you know shes married or in a serious relationship. In ghetto culture, shooting your wife is the most romantic thing you can do. If she survives, she'll defo visit her baby daddy on death row.
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Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago Stickied
This is not the forum to discuss what his shortcomings are or what he could have done better.
Focus on the actual problem here - the wynynZ in question.
nicknack 1y ago
So basically, the only legal age years they are attractive and can be considered girls at all.