Original author: @JP_Whoregan
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JP_Whoregan:
tl/dr - read the damn post
The girls said they knew exactly what they were doing and were planning to “have their fun” (fun= partying, fun=sex, fun=going on spring break etc.) and would “settle down later”. I asked: when are you planning to settle down? They said: “It depends” and “probably around 27, 28” or “maybe sooner it depends”. I really put the girls on the spot. During our exchange they saw I was upset. They told me I should be happy because “nice guys finish first in the end”. I told them you cannot have your cake and eat it to. Then I was told by Kaylene (a young thin super sexy blonde with curves in all the right places (who BTW refused to date me even though we were friends and according to her roommate had sex with almost 30 guys in one semester ) she told me,
“Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”. - Michael’s Story
Justice. Glorious retribution. Suffering the consequences of our wrongdoings, whilst basking in the glory of our righteous deeds and conquests. As men, these are all concepts and ideas that we find noble and right. We recognize and embrace that we cannot live lives completely free of all consequence. Those consequences may be physical; i.e., we don’t give liver transplants to chronic alcoholics. They may be financial; i.e., a bank robber isn’t getting a job in the financial industry anytime soon. Or, they may be social; i.e., if you have a history of behaving like an ass at parties, you may find yourself sitting home alone on Halloween or New Year’s Eve.
However, there seems to be a trend, a pattern in the comment sections of various different discussions here in the men’s locker room we call The Red Pill. It appears to stem from a sort of misunderstanding about “The Wall” from newcomers and assorted anger phasers, and that is this misappropriated idea that once our fluffy, little, acrobatic and beloved vagina operator, rider of the ever present and be-Chadded Cock Carousel hits the wall, that somehow her sexual and social lives are over, and come crashing down around her like a Syrian war zone leveled by ISIS artillery and grenades.
Well, Uncle JP is here to tell you in the best way TRP knows how, and that is with blunt force:
Newbies:
She IS going to get her way. She will ultimately suffer no meaningful retribution for her Ghosts of Sluttiness Past. Dismiss your justice porn revenge fantasies.
And they know it, too. They all know it. Gentlemen, the walking, talking episode of Sex and the City that Michael was talking to above is telling the truth, and here’s why: getting her Beta Bux is just as important to her as getting her Alpha Fux.
Some of us seem to forget that AF/BB isn’t just a catch slogan, it’s an expression of the dualistic nature of the Female Sexual Strategy. AF/BB is a “yin and the yang”. Before modern feminism destroyed the concepts of manhood, it wasn’t uncommon for a woman to successfully consolidated her AF/BB needs in one, singular man. The strong, stoic type of man who tingled her vagina, whom she respected, and whom she gladly devoted herself to in exchange for his caring providership of her and their children.
But alas, 50 years of slow feminist creep, single motherhood, the destruction of the nuclear family, and an overwhelming number of gynocentric social programs and safety nets has all but destroyed this type of man. Women know this. They pushed all of these movements just so they could be strong independent women who go to offices every day and push meaningless paper around in cubicles to make their male bosses wealthy.
So now they have created two different types of men, which we of course now classify as “AF” and “BB”. And when the time comes, she will get her Beta Bux. This is for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is sexual thirst among the latter category. They know they will be able to starfish for thirsty men, who don’t know how good steak tastes when they’re being fed a bowl of dog food a couple of times a month.
I know it sounds logical, because leave it to a man to find the most logical conclusion to a dilemma or conundrum.
”That filthy whore sucked off the lacrosse team and gang banged the basketball team, she doesn’t deserve a good husband!”
your mind tells you.
Well, she’s gonna get one, unless her SMV literally drops to zero by way of getting morbidly obese, becoming a burn victim, or running her face through a cheese grater. Allow me to refer you to a part of /u/Rollo-Tomassi’s SMV Chart that many of us glance over:
https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smv_curve1.jpg
Notice that, for as fast as her SMV starts declining after 23, her SMV is still above a “2” as late as age 38.
And gentlemen, if you don’t think there are men out there who are thirsty, desperate, and willing to bang out a 38 year old 2 or 3, then I’ve got some land in the Florida Everglades I’d like to sell you.
So no, they will not suffer consequences or retribution. Get it out of your head sooner rather than later. No, the Widows of the Alpha Kind will not enjoy fucking their BBs, but that’s not the point. Once she has the ring on her finger, she now holds all the marbles, even if she wants to, and successfully scores, some AF on the side. Conversely, even if she becomes a fat slob who struts around in Victoria Secret sweatpants with the deliciously ironic “SEXY” written on the ass, and drives her husband to find a vagina not surrounded by a gravitational pull, she still holds all the marbles.
And quite honestly, is it any real surprise that women don’t suffer consequences for their slutty actions? Why should they? They are, after all, the Most Responsible Teenager in the House. She’s been living a consequence-free life from the time she was 5 years old and playing with toy princesses to the time she is 25 and insisting she be treated like one. And society will see to it that she isn't about to start suffering them now.
So the lesson to be learned here, gentlemen, is to ditch your revenge porn fantasies. They are no good for your psyche, and they are no good for the process of unplugging. Here at TRP, we prefer to deal in truths and realities, not delusions and fantasies.
She’s gonna get her Beta. Just be glad that now it won’t be you.
polishknight 1mo ago
Minor quibble:
Actually, we do. Larry Hagman drank a bottle of whiskey a day until he got a call from his doctor who told him to throw the glass he had in his hand into the sink because he had cirrhosis of the liver. He managed to luck out and get a liver transplant and chuckled that he thought he was charming because he drank but after he stopped drinking, he was still charming.
Sure, many of them DO stick-the-landing but with this caveat:
Are they mentally able to "settle?"
Yes, with OLD they can land a beta bucks with literally less effort than it takes for us to order a pizza via an app. The Pig Woman experiment shows: https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210744/https://www.hiddendominion.com/the-online-dating-pig-experiment/
But they mentally are incapable of settling or they have bizarre shit tests that even these men can't pass.
I was recently pondering a story told to me by a friend about her husband who knew an aging woman who was considering becoming a "single mother by choice" and put an ad in the paper. She got a sperm donor and chatted with him and...
fell in love with him and married him.
It's an astonishing story and illustrates that many people can have relationships but their dating methodology is broken. She was incapable to courting a man normally but the "sperm donor" route brought about enough intimacy for her to make a connection.
These modern women remind me of the Sheldon Cooper paradigm where someone can be brilliant but socially autistic. Consider: it was WOMEN who were considered a century ago to be the social ones but now they utterly lack "wiles" beyond being a sperm receptacle or boss babe.
So sure, some will stick-the-landing but many won't. And think about it:
Isn't that enough?
In that yes, some will get their cake with sprinkles on top but some won't. And that's something women handle a lot less than us men do: uncertainty.
They're the ones who want to be "led" and "protected and provided" for, yes?!?!
For them, that uncertainty is a living hell and they avoided it, up to now, due to massive social and media campaigns telling them that they can "have it all" or that it's men who have the "loneliness crisis".
But they increasingly see otherwise as they have aunts and friends who wind up alone and childless.
At my work we had a joke about a guy who wanted to quit his job that he complained the boss was abusive and he griped: "yeah, but all the good jobs with decent conditions don't pay as much as this one". It's like Molly Brown griping that none of the Titanic lifeboats had leather covered seats.
In closing, the best revenge fantasy for us is to note that even if they stick the landing, they're settling. And that's punishment enough.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yes, unfortunately many women stick the landing for a beta husband after years of partying and just end up in denial about how haaaapppppyyy they are
And the worst part is that if they are unhaaapppppy enough they can just divorce their husband for alimony and a bailout and then get piped down by hawt 20 years olds with a MILF drive
Then they can try to find their "true husband"
Hell I've seen women post before that their first husband is for the money. It's really disgusting when they go that far
Like JP_Whoregan says, just be glad he isn't YOU
polishknight 1mo ago
It's like hell for Princess and the Pea. "I have to sleep on a mattress that's not PERFECT?"
Reminds me of this College Humor skit of 2nd rate hell: https://youtu.be/-uB4ZVdIX8o
TJMS 1mo ago
I agree that you shouldn't waste time stewing if these ho's don't get their comeuppance, just don't be the one who gets snared by them.
However, judging from recent trends, it seems that a fair number of them are, indeed, suffering consequences. E.g., look at the marriage rates, the number of women posting about WAATGM, etc.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yes, I agree, however it is because they are delaying finding their beta longer and longer.
I don't think that has to do with the post being wrong
But to the broader point, a lot of guys are still stuck in anger phase waiting for their old flames to burn out and they need to accept she has a backup plan still
ogrilla99 1mo ago
Yes, this is the truth. While pretty much all of our posts are about women who don't stick the landing, that's a highly curated sample. The truth is, most women, if they're hot enough to attract fun AF chads in their youth (and that bar isn't very high), can and do stick that landing quite often. Maybe they hit the wall but go for the BB before getting fully run over. Or just by sheer dumb luck, attract a naive thirsty guy who doesn't know his own worth.
The most recent example from my own life, was a hot blonde girl who I knew for about a decade (we've lost touch for the past several years) starting from when she was 23. She was the classic CC rider, and never wanted for male attention, although she professed all the time that she wanted a "real" relationship, while skipping over nice guys and going for the exciting bad boys. She even had a 1-2 year "real" relationship with a bad boy, even moving to a new city for him, and then broke that off when she found out he had been cheating on her with multiple other women. Within a few months, she settled for a BB from their friend circle. A dude who had watched this bad boy rail this girl for a year, while he waited on the sidelines (presumably pining for her from his lonely bedroom). At any rate, they dated for a year, then got married, and now have two kids. We haven't talked in a few years, but I'm assuming she's now a born again virgin, who never liked partying in Vegas and probably tells her husband she "doesn't do that anymore" when he hints that he'd like a BJ.
Maybe in total, the percentage of women able to execute this perfectly has gone down somewhat with the spread of RP thinking, but it's still pretty high. The amount of screeching that women do over it has no correlation with how much it actually affects them (see... well, just about anything in life where women complain while men just suck it up and deal with it).
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
This sort of shit is why sometimes it is best to not date at all within a friend circle - for one, everyone, the BB included, low-key knows who her first choice was, and it wasn't him.
Plus if the relationshit ever detonates, the social fallout is that much more of a pain in the ass to manage. Best to keep a degree or three of separation so that the woman can be cast loose with a quickness and minimal fuss.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Sadly yes. And as JP_Whoregan points out, the ability for women to do this is almost entirely predicated on a sizeable percentage of men who are completely desperate for it or okay getting a hot (or mostly still hot enough former hotty) used and cheap, even if it doesn't come with all its original features
This is also one reason why in TheRedPill I am so focused on helping men improve, so that they don't have to settle for Stacy's - or worse, Becky's or Carol's - crashout beta finding stage
Too bad these women can't learn how to settle sooner. The whole process makes everyone less happy
ogrilla99 1mo ago
Yep. The best you can do is not be that guy. Almost always, someone else will take your place, so you won't be getting any "revenge". The girl will still have a good BB landing, and you just have to be satisfied that at least it wasn't you.
And yes, it boggles my mind that women don't settle sooner. They don't have to be 18-year old virgins. Even if they "had their fun" but settled down in the early post-college years, say mid-twenties, not only would most guys be happier with it, but the women would maximize the type of BB they could get, since they'd still be close to their physical peak.
Guys do this. Their physical peak usually comes around late twenties, then enters a plateau through their thirties, while their financial peak continues to slowly grow. And that's when most guys get married. It's logical to get into the market at your peak.
Women seem hellbent on going the opposite direction: delaying further and further, knowing that the quality of their eventual BB is declining, while risking catastrophic drops in their RMV (like getting a child, or getting fat). They're literally freezing their eggs because they don't even want to acknowledge biological realities. All for the chance to hop on just a few more Alpha dicks.
Dismissing it as women just "sowing their oats" is inaccurate, because the whole point was that phase is supposed to end. Women are showing they will claw themselves back on that carousel no matter what. And I guess as long as they land on a BB, any BB, when they finally get tossed off, then they'll still be okay.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I think the difference between alpha cack and beta boinking is just so night and day for women than any extra years getting the alpha dick is probably worth the extra delusion and risk that they carry delaying for a beta
Women would probably take it more seriously if they didn't have their own income and resources nowadays
Oh well. Like we are all saying, it's best to just NOT be that guy in the end. That's all you can really do
GeorgeIII 1mo ago
I think that experiencing all that attention their first 30 years of life just inflates their egos. That they don’t think it will be hard to find a BB whenever they get tired of the CC.
Most girls don’t have to try hard to get that attention, and start with it automatically. So they don’t value how fleeting that life is. While most of us men have to build a lot for a long time, enduring hours of rejection, gym, and financial grind. We know it takes a while to develop, and that it can all be taken away very quickly.
And I absolutely wish that women did realize it would get hard before it’s too late. In a way, everyone is a loser in the long term. The men have fewer actually good choices for wives and families, while the women waiting too long eventually end up miserable cat ladies or with a BB they hate deep down. The only winners are women who enjoy the CC short term and the few chads who get to be flesh dildos. Everyone else is a net loser in this system.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
It doesn't help that most women are fat and a ton of men are lazy
It would be a lot easier for men and women to looksmatch and mate pair if most people gave a shit
GeorgeIII 1mo ago
If people really only had the chance of getting with their looksmatch (as in not doing better), there would be many fewer relationships.
…which is exactly what we see today.
I really hate to see morbidly obese guys so commonly today. No pride, no discipline, no testosterone. That is its own sadness.
But when I see an obese woman, I am truly stunned. Women know that their appearance matters THE MOST, that’s why they all put on make up. So it’s damning when they let themselves get fat. Instead of spending 30 minutes on make up, they could spend 30 minutes on meal prep and fix most of their shit.
Instead we get fat acceptance, ”unrealistic beauty standards”, and ozempic gymnastics. Literally anything other than actually being less fat.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Right, getting fat is worse than being a bitch or a slut and they won't stay slim
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
Besides, the best revenge is becoming successful and not letting her or women like her leech off of you. Regardless of what sucker they manage to lock in, it will gnaw at them like nothing else if you became the better option and also got away.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yup, precisely