Last week this HB8 self proclaimed lesbian girl (a bad one though as she’s feminine, doesn't act, talk, or dress like a one. It’s starting to seem she’s bisexual. She's probably tired of weak men / toxic exes) and I were playing ping-pong and bantering so hard. I also ensued with tons of teasing. There was also some shit tests and generic insults I passed. She was showing some IOIs and I also recall she said she had a girlfriend last week.
Saw her again today, and she immediately waved hello. Didn't immediately talk to her, but I'd catch her looking my direction. I eventually started to play ping-pong and she joined. More banter, followed my teasing and she probably got the tingles. Here are some IOIs I saw, looking away smiling and playing with her hair or I'd catch her looking at me with a smile. It was all non-sexual though. As we were playing cards, another girl (HB3.5) who's interested in me showed up and was playing with us. Cards were great because that allowed for lots of kino (we played slap jack for reference). To show off my social charm, HB8 and I walked around asking random people to join us. I also got a good tease in.
Before we left for culvers, she flashed me her bra after she stood up. She only had a sweater on over, and flashed me while she was putting on her deodorant. We were facing each other when she caught me looking. I can't identify her tone, but it was like a mix of being playful and "I caught you looking" when she said ""sorry I'm just putting on my deodorant." I just treated it as a thirst / shit test so I ignored her comment and looking when she did the other side.
At culvers, three girls (HB8, HB3.5 and an HB6 demoic/goth girl and I were talking): They kept asking me about my horoscope and I kept up the teasing of this HB8 who was clearly interested because all of her exes "were leos." She'd say things about how I'm an asshole, and can say the right things to trigger her because I'm a leo and blah blah blah. But would show IOIs after that by looking at me with a smile or giggling when I'd eat a singular french fry. This really proves what women say and do are two different things. I think she's having tons of fun around me and I'm not actually toxic. Our feet would touch at times and she'd hold it, so some light kino there. Throughout the conversation I seemed to have the right balance of playful, mysterious and attentive listening. At one point, something was said which caused HB 3.5 to loudly blurt out something about my "dirty cock." Not the first time she's done that, but that definitely meant sex was on at least her mind. Had fun, held frame and passed the few shit tests that flew my way.
I may make this a separate asktrp question: Is banter between a girl a form of flirtatious exchange? I can't seem to understand the two of them and may be wrong thinking they're seperate. I overthink this shit.
Also spoke with 3 girls earlier that day and got them to follow my Instagram. HB 7 (had a bf), HB 5 (who my friend said "wanted me badly" because he claimed she was eyeing me up and down while I was typing in my IG, and a girl who just works at the local coffee shop and does porn full time (HB 5.5). I'm starting to work out my strategy: for girls who are under HB6 or have boyfriends, I get them to follow me. Single HB 6s and up, I depart with the number.
Good day today, and wasn't even trying to game. It just happened striking up conversation and being chill / listening more. Dress, hair and attitude were all on point even though I was feeling a little sick.
Thanks.
qfqads 1y ago
IOIs mean nothing. You basically wasted a ton of time and did not get laid. Then wrote a novel about it and still did not get laid. Then you got some random weird advice and still not get laid.
You are imagining most of these IOIs, they are only in your mind. You were spying on that girls breasts while she was using deodorant and feeling uncomfortable. Go visit and escort, your sexual thirst is making you misinterpret reality.
Also HB 3.5 says something about "dirty cock" and you feel happy she is considering sex. This is proof you are very desperate, average men run away from HB 3.5.
Stop doing PUA, it only gives you the illusion of improving your chances while making you desperate and acting like a weirdo.
hannulv 1y ago
Lesbians... have more teen pregnancies than straight girls. I know a guy who was semi-raped by a (full butch) lesbian in high school. They were doing meth, and she just grabbed him by the throat, told him to shut the fuck up and power drilled herself with his dick in the front seat of her car.
qfqads 1y ago
link to the study ? where did you get the information that lesbians "have more teen pregnancies than straight girls" ? Was it your own behind ?
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
The lesbian thing is a non-issue, just assume it's bullshit. Like you said, look at what she does, not what she says. Girls who claim to be lesbian are usually very immature or carrying some emotional baggage so just take that as a big red flag LTR-wise.
Tons of IOI's from this girl, so it's up to you to isolate and escalate. You talk a lot about banter and teasing, and it's a good start, but you're still not describing any kino-escalation. I've made this point before and you said you were going to work on it. What's the deal? This sounds like your sticking point for now.
imtranscending 1y ago
You caught me man, I've been cautious to escalate. There's definitely more I could've done, but I've been taking it slow, giving her compliance tests and building chemistry. I wasn't trying to rush or fumble this because we've only seen each other 3 times (and in those larger groups which have feminists etc). There's been lots of accidental touch, and when we play cards she's always trying to yank the cards away from me, so that's a little intentional.
The first 2-3 encounters were about feeling things out because she said she's a lesbian and whatever (which now I know is false). I can see her spicing up my life so I wanna keep her around, but you're right I should isolate and escalate. Deadass thought she said she had a girlfriend though.. She has a Halloween party coming up which may be a good opportunity, I just gotta get myself an invitation.