So I have been on a second date with this girl I asked to watch a movie at my place on the 2nd date..We were kissing, hugging grinding, I got too second base but we didn't have sex and she got LMR and said not tonight as I was about to lead her to the bedroom. We just continued what we were doing until she had left.
The next morning we had a discussion about it. She tells me that she likes me and that she says don't get me wrong I want sex too but she needs 'more time'. I told her that I do want the sex too and maybe we move at different pace to eachother and we should probably stop seeing eachother. She then tells me she does like me and all she is saying she needs 'more time'
How should I respond to this? Should I just end it and move on like iron rule of tomassi 3? How should I end it in this case? Do I just stand my ground and say, that I still need the sex so I don't think it will work out?
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Reward good behaviour and punish bad. Sex is good behaviour, no sex is bad. Punish her. Tell her to hit you up when she's ready for sex. Until then, soft next.
MrSupreme 2y ago
hells yeah, sex is never off the negotiation table, not even for a bit
Temerity18 2y ago
Not a good idea to say you need sex. You don't. You might feel like it. But you don't need it.
Cancelcancelculture 2y ago
Its a funny thing right, because I would say guys do need sex, but its also not sexy to appear to need it... primarily because those who dont need it are getting it, so biologically shes attracted to the fact that you've got abundance... youve got options... which is powerful
Bulba 2y ago
Did you talk dirty to her? What do you tell this girl while you are both kissing and grinding and so on?
va2000 2y ago
In my experience iron rule 3 is usually taken too literally or implemented too desperately. The truth is that maybe if you were a perfect god of a man you could experience 1st night lays consistently, but I think what most guys won't tell you is that most there are just way too many factors for you to realize this dynamic in every pull attempt. Even if you are literally brad pitt you're going to run into women who are not in the mood, have peer pressure issues, logistically unavailable, etc.
Sure, if you game well and pick the right girl with the right iois, you have a good chance of closing quickly, but the reality is there are many levels to hesitation. What Rollo is trying to drive home is that you need to learn to identify quickly when she clearly thinks she has the power and believes she can do better than you because in those cases its nearly impossible to reverse that kind of first impression. The example of her pushing for dates and meetups without sex is for the bulk of us spergs to identify it more easily.