I have twice charged chicks for wasting my time.
First 1 I let her to have closure (so like transaction)
Second 1 I charged for every single bulshit message sent to me and charged for my reminder mesage of what she owes (no unnecessary talk) - up to the point she did what I wanted. I started to think Im overinvesting but the lump sum was significant.
I don't feel negative about it, nor do it on regular basis but maybe someone has different view.
I listen
Tooktheredpill 2y ago
Jesus, I thought I had heard it all.
Pedal_Moonpower 2y ago
I take all comments aboard, I will reevaluate as time.passes and will get more feedback and.exp.
I.cant reply to.some. vrx comments as I cant be subjective enough on myself with fine details.
Surely I wasnt angry in both instances, second time was more funNY to play with. I translate some TRP rules into even more wide repertoire of actions (here charging and ghosting simultaneously).
Yes I agree Im not the top tier alpha. I was always very openminded to experiments.
Although I sense myself when being cringy (needy, low value) here I don't. I just don't give a shit. Also don't charge for bad experience as I.don't charge back. I set the rules and 'they' have 2 ways of not complying. Shuutting up or not paying.
I have run it twice and got it twice wrapped.
When 2nd brought a topic of refund. I just said no in relaxed way.
Wytehorse I would like to know when girl is timid etc and when only playing. My initial thought in charging was the thought of transactional feel to partnership from all the sidebar reading, I decided to explore how it goes indeed. Risk is rather non existant. She was already invested I would never do cRAZy move on uninvested. I simply drop this kind.
Matty I just set the rules (I write procedures so have a hang of.details), level of charge between possible and crazy. There is hunch to the process, cant explain all. And every one feels entitled to.waste time differently so need adjustement.
And I.don't make them. There is a.choice to split or do it my way. I cut any other talk apart from rules of the game and setting new limits, including shutting communication completly at some point as im not crasy to think that someone wasting my time more and more will pay once.the lump.sums reaches ie 10k. Thats what I did here. At certain level I shut it and only waited for my bank to send me auto message of transfer.
I have also used and use rewards as apparently they work better.
BTW I wouldn't call myself dark triad at all
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I was just simply saying how it sounded based on the text of the original post. General TRP protocol is to manage the bad behaviors of women in a certain way and next women who continue to not be worth it.
I've never heard of a guy charging women before financially for poor behaviors
Pedal_Moonpower 2y ago
I don't take it personally.
I try to answer best to my perception as TRP is all built on it. Without guys in the past I would miss a lot and I realise I still have a lot to improve.
I probably should mention that 'charge' was not the last stage and still was followed by chores as I felt it was indeed shalow for a punishment (but l consider it investment).
As for the first one I knew its done and dusted so it was one off payment for45 min of.my.time.
Back.then it.was.experiment. from TRP I know she wanted closure. But I ddnt care if.she gets one. Just not at my time expense.
I guess she didnt get closure as she was testing me recently after 1y of silence. She lives abroad and texted is visiting.
Also I have read 24h ago post here about not giving stuff.for free that blew my mind and inspired me to write this story. Gave it 1point and comment if you want to read it.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
How the fuck did you get them to actually pay up for sending you bullshit messages? I'm genuinely curious.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Everything has become transactional. Attention for sex is the transaction. It's no longer about 2 people merging their lives. When women talk about being "partners" it really is fundamentally about transactions. I would just throw out nuclear shit tests on women who waste my time.
Ridicule Reframe – This is major asshole game or what I personally refer to as “Patrice O’Neal Game.” You use this kind of game to bring incredibly narcissistic and angry women off the ego pedestal. Don’t use this on timid sheltered women if you ever want to sleep with them, they’ll get too intimidated to act upon their attraction. Ridicule reframes are particularly helpful in bantering with other guys, who relish in the verbal violence and ensuing laughter it can inspire. In relation to the shit test at the beginning of this section: “I bet you’re single because your face looks like a 9/11 crash site “
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
You sound butthurt by charging and being unable to just simply move on like a guy who has bigger and better prospects to focus on.
"charged for every single bulshit message sent"
That is 100% your fault for not either nexting them at the first signs they're gonna be a time waste, or not developing the frame or value or both to discourage their poor behaviors.
"I started to think I'm overinvesting"
It's because you are. Instead of moving on, you're sinking even more time into women who clearly keep 'wasting' it for you. That is your fault. Charging them money sounds low value and needy.
It sounds like you need validation or something by them paying you. The mere act that they pay for wasted time is like them giving you closure for a bad experience. Chad would just move on to new chicks