Why y’all didn’t want to gate keep the red pill? Didn’t the red pill teach you about human nature too? The red pill thought me that life is survival of the fittest and that other men are my competition not only for woman but money as well. I asked this question because and the response was either y’all getting angry or say something stupid like “other men need to know” like y’all still have that blue pill superhero view. It’s too late now since the red pill is mainstream, me bitching isn’t going to change anything, how do you stand out now? Because I use to be a fat guy that was red pill aware which was rare 5-6 years ago and still was able to get woman, now being into self improvement and only barely getting anything. How am I supposed to stand out now? It’s like I’m the same spot before I found the red pill in 2019.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago Stickied
Because we were trading notes on r/TheRedPill and figuring it all out in real time????
It's clear you are stuck/fixated on misconceptions and overthinking it. Work on your social skills and get in shape
Read the sidebar
Warrior641 1mo ago
What are you talking about ? Most men are red pill aware now which isn’t a good thing. There’s a lot of red pill on social media not just on this forum. The red pill isn’t niche anymore, most men know about it now
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
This is not true. Tell me you don't interact with that many people
Even the average guy who fucks isn't red pilled
Even if they were why would you care. Acting like it's a zero sum game that benefits no one
"other people are red pill aware so I'm missing out"
Baron 1mo ago
LMFAO actually in fact most still haven't remotely read half of the sidebar and redpill still isn't truthfully stationary, the still fundamentally core principles of them are still very unchanging because they're still validly true experience and still objectively true facts.
Especially Gen Z still most deeply suffers from advanced attention/concetration deficit and can't read properly.
Warrior641 1mo ago
I want to add that a lot of men can’t win, that why I don’t want red pill to be popular. Now even celebrities and pro athlete are red pill aware (that was the advantage we had over them) that’s why the dating market is worst it’s ever been. You dumbasses think that everyone can be a winner, no the fuck they can’t.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
"Waaaaaaahhhh I think poorly of this community but want it to help me too waaahhh"
Stop telling on yourself while also shitting on us
You are going to be banned shortly. Stop bitching you ingrate
Warrior641 1mo ago
I’m saying the red pill should go back to being an underground niche. Most men under 35 are red pilled, I don’t see how you can stand out for being red pill anymore, that’s what I’m saying
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yeah, no.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
How do you expect to improve when you're stuck in ideals instead of pragmatism?
How delusional.
Baron 1mo ago
Besides we wanted him to find it, it's not some secret cult lol
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Well bro thinks he can make people stop talking about so that he stops having competition
What a joke.
Baron 1mo ago
The main reason this community actually exists and you're actually here is still because we wanted you to find it. It's in fact still relatively underground niche (the true redpill) not the in fact still awfully distorted half-assed version of it that Myron Gaines and others such as Andrew Tate still propagate.
Warrior641 1mo ago
So you agree there is a difference between red pill and whatever Myron, Tate and pearl says
Baron 1mo ago
Mostly yes, I think. I still didn't watch every single content of these individuals but Tate is still actually in fact always haphazardly distorting redpill and Myron still in fact isn't always displaying frame and gets still really emotional and in fact still always pathetically says really cringy extremist things such as "women should be in kitchen always and all to quit jobs and make sandwiches" which can still genuinely pass as real misogyny. You shouldn't verbalize your contempt for women loudly and too angrily. It's like showing all your cards in poker (unironically, a woman indirectly taught me that without knowing. it's her feminism leaked out as liked posts on facebook).
The contempt is actually in the behaviour towards them but still you and I still must masterfully manipulate and play games. Hence the game.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Cc: @Typo-MAGAshiv
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
I don't have the mental energy to deal with this retard at the moment.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I'll just ban him when my leisure later then
Warrior641 1mo ago
I can tell that you’re just like Myron Gaines. Claims to be red pilled but say and do blue pill shit.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I don't even like him much. I've seen him crumble in debates and not practice what he preaches too much. I'm not sure why he is so popular except for that he thrives on anger and bargaining phase content.
I'm glad he helps make men aware but he isn't exactly a paragon of help. He just makes people upset and aware
What do you want me to do while you trash this community, validate you?
Grow up. I'm just entertaining this little more till Typo weighs in
What did I say that was blue pill (not that I care about your opinion)
Warrior641 1mo ago
Btw, I said y’all not gate keeping the red pill is dumb, not the community as a whole
Warrior641 1mo ago
Because you want other men to be red pill, why not just keep this knowledge to yourself, and excel in life? Red pill has taught me that life is survival of the fittest and taught me about human nature. I compared you to Myron because both of you want other men to be red pill because y’all both have this blue pilled superhero complex and think every one can win. The red pill said woman only like the top men, if all men improve, they still like the top men, so you’re making it harder for no reason if the red pill is mainstream which it’s already is , that’s one the dating market is the worth it has ever been.
Warrior641 1mo ago
The fact that you have to tell me that you don’t care about my opinion shows that you do. Btw, seeking validation is blue pill af
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I'm not seeking validation, I'm just giving you shit before I likely ban you
You are not listening to anything being said and occasionally I just like to duke it out before smacking ban
Baron 1mo ago
You still delusionally think it's "blue pilled supehero complex" because you're still autistically treating redpill like some really arcane lightning-in-the-bottle knowledge while it's just something actually inevitable to be thoroughly compliled sooner or later + common sense and human evolutionary psychology and still truthfully objective observation. And as Bruce Lee still objectively said:
"Knowledge is still not enough. You must do."
We don't sell bunnies in hats, calm down, bro. Read the sidebar, which is still the very beginning step and still easiest part. Redpill doesn't still sell you the ultimate cure, you do that yourself.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
It looks like things are starting to click for you. I'm genuinely glad to see that.
You are finally starting to go well!
But OP doesn't go well!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I never said everyone can win
You're putting words in my mouth
And secondo, red pilling other men doesn't take away from my own success. Women love me (at least most of them really love me) and telling other men how to succeed doesn't erase my own options
Thirdly, I want men to be red pilled en masse. I want feminsm to be dismantled and want men to have power
Warrior641 1mo ago
Why do you still have the us against them mentality? Do you not understand when I said that life is survival of the fittest?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I'm done replying to you.
Use the site as intended or gtfo.
You're time trolling with unreasonable concerns
Address the community properly and no concern trolling.
You will be banned from the forums and will just have to post your concerns elsewhere on our site
This is beyond annoying. Knock it off
Warrior641 1mo ago
I made this post because I’m looking for a solution and this is a concern, this is not the same red pill as the red pill that found from 2019. There needs to be a red pill 2.0 or something
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
This is the same red pill and it was founded in 2011-2012
Get your facts right
And you're not going to put the genie back in the bottle. Stop sperging it's ridiculous
Warrior641 1mo ago
I meant 2019 as the year I founded the red pill
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Found*
Founded means you made something.
You know, coming on here asking for advice and clarification is okay. Coming on here and tearing down the heads of a community and being obstinate are not
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ncstaterepted 1mo ago
race to the bottom devaluation. guru after guru repurposing, writing a new book, doing new workshops, dropping new video lessons, capturing everybody with a pulse in their sales funnel, etc.
nobody wants to read a book so they don't read rational male and a neo-guru condenses the book into a short form video. so there's tons of people persisting on base level condensed RP knowledge like work out, get money, stoicism, monk mode, pua, whatever.
so the information out there is cheap and everywhere and many people know about it. i date college girls and they use terms like mogging, red pilled, lil bro'd (dont worry they all love me but i little bro them all because you're so hot). they say shit like "ARE YOU PUSH PULLING ME?!?!?" and "dude do you think you're just going to neg me and i'll like it?" etc
when a woman is obsessing over a top man she resorts to reading manosphere material to try to understand him even if he may not be reading it at all.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
Some of that shit was happening with PUA back in the early 2000s.
"Nice DHV. are you going to neg me next?"
I found it best to look confused and amused and say "what's that?"
Treadmill 1mo ago
So this bothered me enough to create an account...
You are missing the obvious. It doesn't matter that the red pill is not being actively gatekept. Most men choose not to follow it regardless. Just look at how many men are obese today. According to the red pill, they should be shredded. They know this; They don't even need to be red pilled to know. Yet they don't act.
How many men are actually capable of plating multiple girls at once? Most will fold when she pushes for a relationship.
Not long ago, a story popped up on this very site about someone actively trying to teach a friend about the red pill and it didn't work. The overwhelming consensus was that it was an exercise in futility. Everyone had the same experience.
It does not matter. Read the sidebar, follow the advice and you are way ahead of the average man, because even amongst those trying to be redpilled very few actually put in the effort.
Warrior641 1mo ago
There’s more people than ever before at the gym. Why you think there’s all this high protein now? Less people are drink alcohol and I see a lot of masculinity improvement accounts on instagram that and a lot of cold approach accounts as well
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Oh wow that sounds horrible. How dare men self improve in large quantities
Fuck us right? How terrible
Warrior641 1mo ago
I’m proving my point that there is too many competition and it’s very hard to stand out
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Boooooo hoooooooo
How sad. What shit frame
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yup, most people who swallow it either spit it back up, don't actually digest it, or get mad at the aftertaste enough to dismiss whatever they swallowed
OP is just spinning his gears because he can't personally succeed after reading TheRedPill
Warrior641 1mo ago
You’re right, I can’t because there is too many competition
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
So self improve or gtfo
You will be banned from here if you can't bother to stop whining and start trying
Edit: you know what, you just keep downvoting the admin like a fucking little bitch, you will be banned at end of day after I let typo get his dunks in
Thanks for the catharsis
Warrior641 1mo ago
lol, I never once insulted you and you insulted me thoughout this whole thread. You were talking about frame but you can’t even control your emotions. Plus if I down voted you? Why you down voted me back? That’s not masculine frame. That’s pettiness. I’m not trolling. If you think I’m trolling because you can’t understand my concern than that’s your problem, not mine. I want to speak to the leader of this forum.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
You're effectively talking to the person who is actively leading it day in and day out.
@redpillschool owns it, is the head mod and has final say on everything
He is also going to tell you you are whining and that he wanted TheRedPill to spread
I can control my emotions, I just like occasionally dunking on whiney users who come in swinging complaining about TheRedPill and don't want to put in the constructive effort to do anything about their life
You're welcome to whine and complain to @redpillschool, it won't change the fact you don't want to do anything constructive
First-light 2 1mo ago
I always wanted the red pill to become more mainstream. Actually in the long term all men can be winners if they change the market place. We want less slutty women -yes women who do not put out so easily just because a guy acts a bit chadly. We want more respect, less expectation of simping, more rights for men in law and less tolerance of bad female behaviour in wester culture. All that can only happen with men being more red pilled.
Of course the darting market will react to it -both women and men. What it is important to see is that the late 20th/ very early 21st century dating market was an outlier. It was a freak show. Women were mega sluts who almost defied Briffault's law in that they were sleeping with men from whom almost no benefit was derived except the girl felt affirmed. This was only possible in a market in which the value of women was plummeting. Older women were actually telling younger women this was good for them and empowering. This could only ever be short lived.
These women were very easy to game short term. but recently there have been a few re-setting factors in the market. Men treating women as lower value, shorter term things that are more easily manipulated and deserving of less simping is one thing. This could be called red pilled.
Men actually being honest about what they want is another thing that is certainly red pilled -they want pleasant natured women, submissive and low body count. This flies in the face of the feminism. Feminism was a big driver of the explosion in sluts that were easy to access by pretending to be a bit "alpha". If women are reacting to this even in a very limited way, they will be becoming less slutty, less attitude filled, harder to game short term. If it is just starting to happen -well good.
It is true that it is a zero sum game in some ways. Men are in competition at least in how they drive the market, just as when we buy gold we are all basically in competition. If no one else wanted the stuff you could pick it up for the price per pond of scrap lead. If men are content to let women slut around, absolve them of responsibility even for their own upkeep and still simp out on them, then women will be easy to pick up short term for fake alpha types.
But women are not gold. They are not incorruptible and every young. They are not fungible like 1 ounce gold eagles -one woman is not as good as another. Women will be as incorruptible and valuable as the market asks them to be (well a bit less actually because they are good at pretending and manipulating). Men are becoming more savvy. Women are reacting. Well good because they were trash. 95% of them are certainly not what a man actually wants long term. Its about time they get less easy and less entitled.
Warrior641 1mo ago
I don’t think woman are easy short term. Male virginity is highest it’s ever been
First-light 2 1mo ago
Good point about male virginity.
I think its a case of the threshold of what women want having risen, while men have at the same time dropped their level of engagement and effort and many men also have not got as many social skills as previous generations. Women remain generally easier than at almost any other time in history but only for guys who meet the threshold. Its that 80:20 thing.
The threshold has risen because it can. Women can access men a lot easier through social media and OLD. Any woman who is not bottom 20% can get banged casually by a top 20% guy. That is the situation. So naturally they all want high value guys.
Musicgoon78 3 1mo ago
What??
You develop a personality and a life instead of coming on here larping and bitching. These tools aren't someone's personality. FFS...
mattyanon Admin 1mo ago
Something that you wouldn't have been able to do if the gatekeeping had happened like you said it should
Yeah... you can't be the fat guy any more. Sorry :)
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1mo ago
If you spent even a fraction of the energy doing the things that you should be doing instead of coming here to whine like a woman, you'd not be having so many issues and would be far ahead of any competition.
I mean fuck's sake, we got dudes that keep coming back here still having issues after months of us telling them to get out there and do the fucking work instead of expecting a Pussy Puzzle Password. Those are your competition.
You can't figure out how to surpass them then you're just being a lazy pud.
No-Stress-Cat 2 1mo ago
Who let the femboy in?
Jesus, dude, grow a pair. This isn't a competition, it's shared knowledge. There's a fuck ton of undiscovered money out there to be made. There's a fuck ton more women than men on this planet. You just gotta have the balls to go out and get it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I already told you the genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's delusional. And doing what you ask would mean shutting down the site
Either use it for advice like a normal person or gtfo. You're breaking our "address the community properly" ethos
Participate in good faith or find somewhere else to get help