I'm at a point in my life where I would want to start a family and meet the right woman. One of my plates that I've been seeing for about 6 months treats me like a god. She naturally just does everything for me. She's been pressuring me for commitment / establishing exclusivity since month 1, but I of course haven't given it to her. She's asked me for this multiple times to commit after this point, but around month 4, I asked her to give me time and she agreed. I can see it affects her, but I still want to vet her longer before fully committing. She has already told me she loves me, I have not reciprocated.
My biggest fear / hesitation is not knowing about her sexual past. I know she had a long term relationship of 6 years (she's 25 now), but that's about it (for reference, I'm 30). I've tried to casually scope it, but I still don't have a clear idea. When it comes up, she remarks that she knows I have more experience than she does (because of how I fuck), but I also don't want to forthright ask her for her n-count since she can obviously lie and I think she gets the sense that I would never be exclusive with a hoe, which of course gives her more incentive to lie.
Everything about her (so far) is positive. I can see this progressing, but I don't want to marry a slut, regardless of how she treats me now.
Any insight? Thanks.
derdeutscher 1w ago
IMO worrying about her past is insecurity and looking for problems. If you like her, you like her. What matters is now and future.
About you not marrying a slut is naive, because almost every woman was slut at least at one point in time. If thats your mindset, just go and buy a virgin somewhere in Indonesia or wherever they sell them.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
Dumb. All you're looking for is a problem. You're going to find it. You can judge the quality of the relationship from when your first met to the present. Digging into the past is a great way to torch the relationship.
Your need to know notch count is severe insecurity.
ChadifiedAsian 1w ago
Insecurity? Please expand. Why do you think a woman's past affect the present relationship?
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
I don't think that. What the hell are you talking about about?
You snooping into her past to look for problems will guarantee that you find one or make yourself sick trying to find out something that doesn't reflect the quality of the relationship that you currently hold.
ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
Sorry - meant to ask "Why do you think a woman's past DOES NOT affect the present relationship?"
But thank you for your response. I concede that it has been building in my mind. It sounds like you're suggesting to let bygones be bygones and evaluate LTR potential based on the here and now.
Musicgoon78 2 6d ago
Her past cannot change. If you care more about her past than the actual woman itself, you're on a path to breakup.
This girl is someone you really like. Whatever her past was was, it made her into the person you feel is good for a relationship. If you find out about her past and punish her for it, all you've done is gone out of your way to torch things. She can't change the past and if you ditch her she will simply find another man that will accept her as is. Don't let your ego get in the way of something good.
cundardunfinished 1w ago
You're never going to know so better not to think about it, in fact you should try to avoid knowing absent any red flags that she is a stripper or some such (the dynamic here should be her trying to find out about you, not vice versa . . her dismissing 'when it comes up' is reversed). You might find this enlightening: https://rationalmale.substack.com/p/guys-who-dont-fuck
If you are going to make the mistake of marrying a woman, in your prime earning years, then what you should really be worried about is her capacity vs yours in earning a living, her family quality, her intelligence. Marrying a 25 year old who only fucked one guy but works at Walmart with a mother late on rent while you make $200k/year is a recipe to get absolutely annihilated in divorce in 10 years while she takes your 2 kids. Her intelligence matters because that's what you pass onto your kids, ditto family they will be your kids' relatives. The smartest move my married friends and family have made is marrying women with rich families, that doesn't protect you completely but it starts to when they are gifting big down payments and college funds and the like.
ChadifiedAsian 1w ago
Fair - she's a smart girl and will make around $130k after finishing her master's. She's even willing to financially support me financially when I go to get my PhD to further specialize in my engineering field next year. From what I know, her family's middle class, but they have assets that she could leverage in the future.
Thanks for the read, brother.
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ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
Thank you for your response. I don't think getting her a gift would do much since I already know she wants me.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Bruh wtf. You got god treatment after 6 months and won't entertain exclusivity without a title yet you're wondering about relationships
Slow your fucking horses down
The problem is you guys embark on sheer autism with this alpha shit. You could have
1) gone exclusive at this point if she's that good to you and you want to see more 2) let her yap and she would have told you more of her past. They always tell on themselves are you cutting this short/being judgemental in the moment? 3) you don't need to be this anal about it. If you're even entertaining the relationship question after half a year you could at least be exclusive. If you don't give a shit about that why do you care
This is alpha autism honestly
If you don't care about relationships than wondering about her past is useless. Clearly you do. Secondly, I've had hoes of 2 weeks tell me more than this. Are you stopping her from sharing her shit/judgemental?
ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
The reason I'm wondering about relationships is because I would want to give her exclusivity if she checks off the foundational boxes if that makes sense. She treats me well, but again, I wouldn't want to wife up someone that's been tossed around - personal preference.
I don't think I come off as judgemental when these things come up, I even try to egg her on to get more, but it doesn't really go anywhere. I'm not saying I want to marry HER per se, just that I'm at a point where I can start thinking about forming a monogamous relationship with the intention of marriage.
SwarmShawarma 5d ago
Sounds shaky.
Once she'll hear about a marriage she'll be all over it. Do you want to form a relationship based on a lie?
Or do you want to tell her about marriage to keep her around based on the promisees and based on her liking you. She might stay just because you promissed the cash and prizes. She could be calculated even if she dislikes you sticking it up and then go fuck on a sidetill the cash and prizes day.
Or do you want to string her along for several years and her feeling cheated so you 'll have to start over in a few years.
If you actually 'plan to ' get married look below, it will work.
ChadifiedAsian 2d ago
I haven't brought up marriage to her. She brings it up to me, but I don't engage. I usually say "let's take it slow". I don't want to lead anyone on, but my intention is to leave the short-term relationship scene for something more meaningful - with her or someone else. Thanks for your comments
Mofreer 6d ago
Women definitely reveal things about themselves. I've even noticed that they sometimes exaggerate their experiences if they feel the reality was too boring.
It's like they instinctively know the past matters to some extent, so they subtly reveal details to communicate their value.
With that in mind, digging into a woman's past only leads to headaches. I used to live in a very religious country where virginity was a given, yet women were acting just as slutty, if not more, than Western women. My conclusion is that present behavior is the only real deterrent to honest intentions.
ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
Thank you for your insight
redhawkes 2 6d ago
Lmaoo fucking a hoe for a 6 months and already thinking about marriage.
Of course past matters for anything serious, unless you're one of those dry dicks who marry to touch a tit. Masks fall sooner or later it's just a matter of time.
Search theredarchive on the topic, you'll get more insight.
ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
Yes exactly, I am thinking of becoming more serious which is why I posed this question. If I wanted to remain casual with her, I wouldn't care if she's been hoeing around.
Thanks for the theredarchive suggestion. I'll take a look.
SwarmShawarma 6d ago
You should marry her ASAP.
By 35/38 you should be after a divorce with some invaluable experience. Its worth paying for that exp with the divorce money.
ChadifiedAsian 6d ago
thanks for the laugh haha
mattyanon Admin 2d ago
Treats you like a god when she doesn't have commitment.
How will she treat you after it?
The situation MATTERS.
Don't marry ANYONE.
Jeez you people.
ChadifiedAsian 2d ago
Yes - of course that's top of mind. If I were to give her exclusivity and the behavior changes, I'm out. I know most people on here are pretty anti-marriage, but I want children and to raise them in a healthy nuclear family dynamic. Call me still matrix-driven, but it is what it is