So I’ve wondered at times, if following TRP leads people to believe some things that aren’t true. Namely that all women will cheat with the right guy, or that all women sleep around or have slept around.
But when I read blue pill posts back in the day, instead of saying that women aren’t all sleeping around, they said that it’s somehow a good thing for girls to be raging sluts.
So I’m wondering if there’s any group that doesn’t think that all women are whores but that agrees that many are whores and that being a whore is bad.
Edit: my main point here is that you see a lot of TRP stuff about girls all being sluts and everything. I saw a Rich Cooper YouTube short about how all women are sluts. I saw an alpha male strategies post about how if a girl isn’t texting you she’s busy getting fucked. Yet that same guy once said “some girls don’t kiss on da furs date so das jus how it go”. How can this guy think that all girls are constantly getting fucked yet believe that some genuinely don’t kiss on the first date?
Intrepid_Place53900 2 months ago
Well, I think it comes down to each persons definition of what is a "slut/whore"?
I'm an old guy, I'll give you my view of what "most" girls do and have done since I was young in the 80's.
most women will have what you call a ho phase, usually high school, college aged, they will hook up with a few guys to try things out. They will test their power, how high a guy they can get, then see if t hey can keep him,etc.
they get burned, they try some more, etc.
some girls learn quick, some don't.
Most girls, learn that , it's easy to get a good looking guy to F you, not so easy to keep him. Most girls want a "relationship", of course with a guy above her. Now many of these relationships may only last a few month and may have only been a "relationship" in her mind, but hey the hamster is powerful and they want to "feel" good about how it was just a hookup for that good looking asshole ;) but she wanted more.
so, I think most girls have a bunch of relationships, that vary from a few months to year or so.
Your typical 25 yo girl, will probably have been in 3-5 "relationships, and in a few quick hookup type situations and so on. Is this girl a slut/whore? Up to you to decide.
Then, some girls just want to feel "desired" and that they can get good looking guys to F them,etc. I"m "empowered", blah.
those girls are damaged, high maintenance,etc. They've probably had "many" hookups, ONS, probably with guys way above them and where Pumped and really dumped.
You should probably be able to tell the difference between these 2 types of girls very quickly.
I'll add a 3rd type, which has become more common than in my day.
The ambitious professional girl, going for advanced degree,etc.
She's looking for fun , but doesn't have a lot of time due to studying and work.
so, she selectively picks hot guys to "have fun" with. Her aim is that , when I'm set in my profession,etc, I'll find a nice guy to settle down with, but he has to make as much as I do, or , hee hee, twice as much would be nice.
that girl is a dead bedroom , as soon as the kids come along and she's got what she wants.
timmytaliban 2 months ago
When you are in an enlightened state, that’s what TRP is all about.
It’s just a lot of bro comedy that feminists/betas like to always blow out of proportion. Like Donald Trump and “grab her by the pussy”, or Andrew Tate and the sparkling water.
It’s easy to get trapped in that mentality however.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2 months ago
I'm one of those guys that doesn't think women are getting fucked all the time.
The more i keep telling women I'm not looking and just want to fuck (I just want to avoid problems) and the more female friends i hang out with, etc. A lot of them just do not seem like they are just getting railed repeat.
There are definitely sluts out there and girls having back to back casual flings with one guy at a time as as well, don't get me wrong, and I don't know what the percentage of girls getting monthly/weekly dick is prevalent, but a lot of girls are NOT going all the way with guys unless he's right time right guy right place.
I think most women will make out or have a guy feel them up but i don't think most women are getting dicked repeatedly despite enjoying sex
A lot of women will put out for the right guy at the right time at the replace or a guy who is "good enough" and throws some commitment bones her way. But I actually don't think most women are just getting dicked
I think TRP has a skewed overrepresentation of these women because they're the easiest to fuck and thus in game there is more of a data pool to draw from on men's experience with hoes. Plus a lot of hoes end up getting men to the red pill to begin with
I genuinely do think most women are going months at a time without sex and primarily having sex with guys that show more commitment promise. I do think some women who otherwise wouldn't fall off every now and then and need a rebound or are sluttier than they otherwise would be because of something going on in their life but i just don't think most women are getting dicked down relentlessly
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Red_dead 2 months ago
Oh you didn’t say you lived in the UK yea they’re actually just hoes over there. Heavy drinking culture plus mid tier women.
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Red_dead 2 months ago
Yea I’ve been to London twice the women there are nice. I moreso meant the other places. In Uk at least from what I’ve seen. Get off the internet its skewing your perception. Ofc ppl are going to focus more on higher body count stories than lower.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
Idk who is saying 20 is acceptable.
You hear a lot of claims that some men are using RP to fulfill bluepill fantasies. In the same vein, there are some RP guys who are doing bluepilled hamstering to justify shitty women being shitty.
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Red_dead 2 months ago
Yea I don’t think every women is a slut. Its more online shit and personalities that make you believe that. Its funny because if you spend to much time online and listening to that crap you almost find yourself hating women a bit. Then you go out and actually talk to them an youre like wait theyre not bad.
I mean I’ve seen it in first hand experience even in my fraternity days, most women are not slutting it out every weekend especially the sorority girls, they care way too much about reputation to be labeled a slut. All the stories and shit are usually just from one guy their consistently fucking or a one off in between boyfriends or fuckbuddies. Maybe young girls in college bc of the sudden amount of choice /freedom but they eventually realize it has consequences and slow down. Also Ive found the more attractive the less likely she is to be a slut barring some mental or self esteem issue, because she can choose. Why fuck 100 guys when you can pick from the best. Mid tier girls with self esteem issues seem to be the sluttiest imo. The one that can’t seem to find a boyfriend while all of her friends are coupled up.
The best quote I heard I think it was somewhere here is that girls will fuck as many guys as they can without incurring social consequences. Sure they all want to be sluts and fuck like we do but it doesn’t mean theyre going to. But this also is the reason why people say certain things are red flags. Having slutty friends, going on girls trips, lots of guy friends, shes way less likely to get judged for being a slut.
I go out with my female friends and they’re not going home every night with some guy, they prefer to meet guys in their circle so theyll wait rather than fuck a random who they don’t know.
TRPDuryodhana 2 months ago
Facts. Have experienced this myself.
I will use TRP principles on some chick and she will start warming up; but then I will remember all those TRP shorts and I can notice anger boiling up in me. Some of these TRP guys just flirt with black pill and that stuff is unhealthy AF.
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Red_dead 2 months ago
Perspective I guess. Also what do you define as a slut every guys different.
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Red_dead 2 months ago
Lol how old are you? Most women are gonna have more than 3-4. I personally think you’re being a little unrealistic, im not saying I want a partner with a high N count but girls are going to fuck. As for my definition its more about intention and accountability for me. Is she fucking every guy that gives her the slighest bit of attention after 10mins or is she going from ltr to ltr, or at the very least a fuckbuddy. Two girls with the same body count can be very different one can have 7 all one night stands within a couple months, one could have 7 with 3 relationships and one fwb in between each. So I guess the quality of their relationships. You can maybe find a girl with 3-4 but that’s uncommon I doubt its ever been common. If I had to put a number around 10. If a girl fucks 1 guy from 16 to 25 it’s around that anything else is unrealistic
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
What do you define as a slut?
Red_dead 2 months ago
See above.
IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
My criteria for what is a slut is basically that she’s a slut if she’s ever had casual sex, FWB included. So 3-4 sounds like a reasonable number to me. But regardless, even if it is a bit higher, it’s still not the picture that alpha male strategies is painting.
I myself have fucked 9 girls in 3 years. I would consider that too slutty for a girl to do but I can say that that is STILL much less fucking than what alpha male strategies is suggesting women are doing.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
Honestly if you don’t know more than one girl who wasn’t a virgin past fifteen I would indeed say that you’re just in a location with a ton of sluts. It seems to me that many girls remained virgins till at least 16 here. Some later.
And I don’t see serial monogamy as being a slut. If a girl has 3 2 year relationships and never has any casual sex I don’t consider her a slut.
Lastly, most young girls here don’t have lip filler. It’s actually not that common from what I can tell. Even the sluts don’t usually have lip filler, it’s only the mega vain girls that do.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
Because when you’re 18 and your LTR wants to go to U of Poo while you’re going to U of KinFucky, the relationship won’t work.
Not to mention that it could also be the guy’s fault if a relationship breaks up. Could be a promising young guy who ended up being an alcoholic or a drug addict.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
We’re speaking hypothetically about girls we haven’t met yet. Maybe she did try an LDR and he died at a frat hazing. We don’t know.
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wswZtyqNGQ 2 months ago
The implication is that the girl is busy fucking Chad while refusing to kiss Billy Beta on a date, so it's logically consistent.
IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
Nah, that was not the implication. This was a video where he was teaching guys what to do on a date. Then he said if they don’t kiss it’s because some girls “just don’t kiss on the first date.” So what you’re saying wasn’t the implication at all. He also said that he doesn’t kiss on the first date because then he’s shit testing them so they don’t know if he likes them.
The video where he said all girls are busy getting fucked is a different video.
Testme 2 months ago
I agree with Vermillion when he writes "A lot of women will put out for the right guy at the right time at the place...". But would probably change that to nearly all women. Of course, the problem is right guy, right time, right place, which is a very tall order in some cases.
First of all, there are girls who have strict principles, either religious or otherwise. There was a very hot girl who was the girlfriend of my close buddy in college and he told me that she refused to have sex with him because she was "saving it for marriage". She would do everything else, fellatio etc, she just would not have sex because she wanted to be a virgin for her husband. There are plenty like her.
Secondly, a girl has to learn to have to sex. It doesn't come naturally. So, if for one reason or other, a woman does not become acclimated to it, she will be reticent. I knew a nun who told me she did not have sex until she was 27 years old because, well, she was a nun. She told me that there were a number of different men who tried to seduce her when she was a nun, but she submitted to none of them.
I know in the case of my sister that she did not just fuck the first guy she dated. She had several boyfriends first over several years, but it was not until she was 18 and had a very serious boyfriend that she crossed the line and started having sex.
So, don't just read the RP stuff and assuming that every girl is a raging whore fucking chads every other day. That is a false idea.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
Lol dude wtf
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
So is that what it is, that men literally think most women are classy, and so people have to say “women are all whores” to suggest that most women are whores but they don’t literally mean all? Because I always figured that most women were whores. It’s only when I joined TRP that I began to think that literally all, or at least 99.9% were whores.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
My point is though that I now think TRP is over expressing what kind of sluts they are. TRP is making it sound like they’re all gigasluts. I don’t think many are virgin mary but I don’t think all of them have an n count of 50 either. And of course I think there are some who are low n count like 2-4.
You’re 22 man go talk to some women, get off of these forums.
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dongking 2 months ago
Def. I'm from Scandinavia. Pretty similar to UK in terms of hoes. Girls start partying (and fucking) at like age 13. It's crazy.
A typical body count for a 20-23 year old girl is like 20-30. Sometimes way more. I've met tinder hoes with 100+ bodies. Obviously didn't stick my cock in that pinky.
This is all great when you want to be a playboy and fuck alot, if you have high SMV. To settle down with a gf/babymama is pretty much impossible though.
IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
I’m 26. I’ve never fucked a virgin either. I’d have liked to and still wish I could, but I’m not holding out hope because it’s a bit crazy to.
The thing that comforts me is that MOST guys are not marrying a virgin. Even if they fucked a virgin, chances are that their wife won’t be a virgin when they meet. So what can really be done?
You’re at the age though where possibly you could still find a virgin. But again, don’t hold out hope. I didn’t lose my virginity till 23 so I don’t care THAT much about a girl being a virgin because before I was even having sex most girls were not virgins.
I could possibly find a virgin if I made it my life’s mission but if you go searching for a needle in a haystack you can drive yourself crazy.
You should just hop off these forums and spend time with women in real life. Only come here to ask productive questions, not to analyze everything and mourne the fairy tale’s death.
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Ibanez 2 months ago
You are asking to be lied to. All women sleep around. Every woman born after '95 sleeps around. Whether she sleeps with 15 guys in a month or 3, does not really matter. It adds up over the years.
The average body count of a woman in 2023 that is 22-24 is 30-60 at least. Deal with it or don't or go blue pill again.
Red pill should have never gotten out to the mainstream. It is a mistake to enlighten and help others, as people are dumb as fuck and deserve to be put in their places. Only those who seek truth should've found red pill by truly seeking it, like the good ol' days.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2 months ago
I don't believe this either.
Maybe if we're looking at hard statsical averages women are 15+ but the serial monogamists with multi year relationships are not sitting at high bodies unless they had a slut phase in the middle
It's not accurate to be saying every woman has been ran through. A lot have but you should be avoiding such women. There are women that haven't been ran through
IBelieveInTheFallen 2 months ago
I don’t think the average n count of a 22-24 year old is 30-60. Where are you getting these numbers?