why are there men who not know red pill but have success? why ?
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whytehorse2021 1y ago
I was blue pill when I got married. My wife viewed me as her hypergamous best option. I have better genetics than the guys she could get, had status as an American abroad, and made relatively good money. My major downfall was developing oneitis and pedestalizing her. Then she got fat and the sex was pretty lame. Due to her upbringing she viewed this as normal and we were heading into a sexless marriage where both people get fat and lose all interest but because of the children and time invested they just stick it out to the end. You know the type, you see them all the time.
Then I learned red pill and got her into the gym along with myself and it improved things. Tried some sex god method stuff and now she's the one wanting sex all the time. Still dealing with career BS but making progress.
ESPN 1y ago
My brother is a perfect example. He had a flawless reputation and a HUGE friendship circle and network of "high value" friends. Friends that are flawless in character and highly successful (lawyers, MBA's, doctors, etc...) and they all have sisters and nieces and daughters.
Well, he met his wife through his outer friendship circle who wanted his sister to have a great husband. They both work and make great money and live in a major city.
TRP is for genetic losers (non-Chads) who cannot "win" in life without cheat-codes. Some guys literally are pre-destined to become "winners" and my younger brother was like that. Even though he is scrawny and doesn't lift -- he has a magnetic personality and is genuinely a saint.
Not me though -- I fucked around with drugs and dropped outta college and only discovered TRP because I spend way too much fucking time on the internet.
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Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
Why are you even here then? You guys have your own forums.
Here:
https://incels.is/
Now sod off.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
The number one factor that red pills men isn't the internet, but women themselves. And I don't know a single somewhat sex-having married guy who isn't red pilled through experience.
They may not use the internet lingo, but when they talk about their marriages, their sexlife, what works and what doesn't, what you can expect and what you can't, it's the exact same concepts with a different lingo.
And trust me, a lot of them would've had a much better time for years if they didn't have to figure it out as they went along, but in stead established certain things from the very beginning of their marriages. Wheeling things back in once you start getting it is much harder.
Also, most guys who take their "red pill journey" to the internet and the manosphere are just regular dudes. They don't start from the point of being totally green. Probably 50% of it they already figured out on their own. That's why jumping down the rabbit hole is so appealing - because it's already vaguely familiar.
Something like TRP doesn't appear out of the blue through magic. It's the result of men from all kinds of different starting points (fucking on the regular to not fucking at all), comparing what's worked for them and what hasn't, and within loads of different contexts (anything from pick-up to marriage).
Together, these experiences form the basis of what is now a comprehensive theoretical framework (of varying quality) on what really drives intersexual dynamics. And any man who wants to claim that he doesn't have a keen interest in the theory of sexual dynamics, I'm telling you right now is a lying sack of shit. Because the minute you get some alcohol in them, they'll start talking about this stuff themselves. Sex - how to get it and how to maintain it - is a basic, common interest for all men who don't have a serious hormonal imbalance.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1y ago
Well said.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
No.
TRP is depgrogramming men who have been duped by society. We tell people the truth that has been hidden from them.
ESPN 1y ago
I should have spent more time writing my argument. Some men do fine in life without TRP. Maybe they could benefit from TRP anyways but they probably don't spend their time looking for it.
TRP exists for men who are looking to discover helpful information about dating, sex, and relationships. It is not for men who aren't looking for it.
(I hope I explained myself better today than yesterday)
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Well, that reads a lot better than "genetic losers" :)
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1y ago
Fucker beat me to it!
This is probably the most garbage-ass bullshit I've read on here, ever.
Learning how the world actually works is a "cheat code"? WTF?
@ESPN, you're as retarded as the network you named yourself after.
ESPN 1y ago
TRP isn't mainstream. In fact it is actively suppressed and can get you banned from other forums if you mention stuff that identifies you as redpilled.
Either way though -- I didn't articulate my thoughts well yesterday. Sorry about that.
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Positive-Lifeguard80 1y ago
There was a global transformation of society happening in the 1960s and "Pickup Artists" (PUA) and "Female Dating Strategy" (FDS) are just coping techniques to deal with the results and the fallout of that transformation.
The "Red Pill" itself is a term for unplugging from the matrix and recognizing that what actually happened there. It's not a method to have sex.
Of course, you don't have to cope with anything if your social environment is not affected by that transformation and still intact. If you're part of a native tribe living on a protected island in the Indian ocean, you don't need any of this or even know about it.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Because they are very attractive
Intrepid_Place53900 1y ago
(why are their men who are not red pill, but are successful with women)?
Are they really not red pill? How do you know?
Are they really successful? Let me explain. You can have a guy who's married to a hot girl, or has hot girl friends constantly. but, is he paying them money for that? Is he married to a hot girl but has starfish sex a couple of times a year? Is that success to you?
You mention your brother, who has a big money friend group, lawyers, doctors,etc. He makes big money and his wife makes big money,etc. So, why is he not red pill? He makes big money, has a big group of successful guys. So, he's not RP, why?
Also, again, they may have a marriage of convenience, people who both make big $$,etc. But is she sucking his cock at 5am before he goes to work? Or does he get starfish sex when she feels it's duty time? How do you know?