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I'm 25 and she's 31, we've been together for 6 months. -After 3 months of talking, I made her my LTR. I was serious with her and she seemed to have it all: intelligent (PhD), her own place, a retirement, no kids, no drugs, not a party animal, conservative, and she's Asian. She DID try to tell me about her past on the VERY FIRST DATE, but I stopped her and told her I didn't want to know because no good could come out of it. That was my major fuck up, and this was before I knew the RP existed. Now i know when hoes talk, let them talk.
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She has told me she is looking for marriage and has already determined that she wants it with me. I wasn't committed to the idea, but didn't exactly reject it. I had oneitis with her big tie.
- Last week, she left to asia for a business trip for 1 month. On a video call with me, she confessed her past to me. She had 4 sexual partners, 3 LTRs and 1 FWB. Her hoe phase starting when she was 16 with a 22 year old for 3 years. Next guy lasted for 3 years, next guy lasted for 2 years. These were all LTR.
- Her most recent was a guy in 2016, whom she was fuckbuddies with for a year.
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She told me she used to frequent hotels, get pounded, and get dropped at the curb. She lived with the third guy and slobbed that knob every morning. With her fuck-buddy, she'd walk to his place after class, get pounded, then leave.
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After she told me, I broke it off. She convinced me to stay because before I knew all this i was definitely hooked on oneitis with her. She is great, really pampers me and makes me not look at other women. She tried convincing me that this was all in her past and that she's changed AWALT.
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She said she wouldn't fuck every day with any of these guys. She said the guy she lived with they slept in separate beds. The first guy was statutory rape but she enjoyed it so she kept up with it. She doesn't tell me about the second guy.
- She kept two on her facebook. I made her delete her facebook when we had the fight, and delete their contact information.
My question is: Where do I go from here? She's made all the changes I have asked for. She tossed all of the belongings from these exes, she's cut off all contact, she's done some drastic shit that's hard to explain here that shows me she's committed to keeping me around with her.
I can't get her nasty past outta my head though. The FWB is a turn off. She told me she won't tell me any more details of any of this past, yet I'm still very curious because I want to know. I told her I cant marry someone that used to sleep around, and cant marry a whore that will let a guy come inside her without committing to a LTR.
Am I acting like a giant pussy? Should I keep her around or just break it off? Not interested in making her a plate, as I am genuinely grossed out by her past at this point in time. It comes/goes, some night i am turned off and actively grossed out by her, others I remember the great times we had and really just want to be with her.

gosuckyourself 4y ago
Stopped right there.
Skev77 4y ago
Bros about to get hit w the baby rabies
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abitofmemory 4y ago
thanks for reminding me that my life is more important than having a nice girl to cum in beside me
aj14 4y ago
just picturing her with other dicks in her mouth turns me off extremely. I dont want to be that fucken chump. Thanks for pointing out that last paragraph.
gosuckyourself 4y ago
Bro my ex admitted to 25+. Listen to your gut.
Impressive-Cricket-8 4y ago
Do you think she'd have done all that if she was still 24 years old and hanging out with that crowd? Do you think she'd be with you if any of those guys would've commited to her?
So she doesn't want to get married to you, she just wants to get married and you were available.
While I get that a woman's past is like a restaurant's kitchen (if you look too closely, you'll give up the meal), if you want an actual relationship, you have to know to whom you're getting married. Would you marry her if she had traded blow jobs for crack in her teens? Or if she was a prostitute in her twenties? Or if she had a history of cheating every single boyfriend? You're the one who chooses what to accept in a woman's past, but being a mobile sex doll is not really my personal idea of what I want in a wife.
Besides, you're dating for 6 months - I wouldn't consider marriage before 2 years. Six months is not enough time to know how she deals with money, what's her relationship with family and friends, how she acts on a bad day, how you solve relationship problems together, who she is after a bad week at the job, what she actually looks like once the rose colored lenses of the beginning of the relationship are off. If she's already pushing for marriage, she's either trying to snatch you while you're wearing said lenses or wants her family off her case. Either way, be careful with your condoms.
aj14 4y ago
This is spot on and what I needed to hear. It totally sucks and I'm feeling down, but you bring up points that my oneitis wasn't really letting me see. Thank you.
Edit: Seriously this is golden advice. Without being insulting, without being degrading or immature you stated facts that I didn't want to consider. Thank you.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
Can't turn a hoe into a housewife, what are you trying to fix?
aj14 4y ago
She apparently made these changes before I was even in the picture. Her last fuck before meeting me was when she was 25. Still...you make a good point. She's a hoe and always will be.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
Why do you believe this? Why would a "former" (/s) hoe go 6 years without fucking even at least one giga Chad from the club?
Women have ever incentive to lie about their sexuality. The truth is, probably only her closest chick friends know the truth here. Maybe she was honest about it it, but I highly doubt that.
I'm in a singles group where every girl's last fuck was last week.
I'm certainly not the first to touch on this, this advice has been passed around the TRP forums for years
aj14 4y ago
[Her last fuck before meeting me was when she was 25.]
She apparently found religion or something and turned her whole life around. One of her friends attested to this, saying she'd been pretty fucked up mentally from her hoe life.
Still. Once a hoe...always.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4y ago
I would not trust either girl in that. This just sounds like straight bullshit. That girl is your LTR's friend, not yours. She's gonna say what helps her friend not you.
I do not believe either
Durek_The_Bald 4y ago
Yeah, I'm gonna stop right there.
bymxco 4y ago
Doesnt sound any different from the average girl. A girl with a 5-10 n-count by 30 by all means is actually not as promiscuous. Obviously shes lying. All girls have been fuckbuddies before man. Whats the point of your post?
Also shes 31, alpha career woman, and asian. All those are dealbreakers for me. Asian women are ugly to me and they frequently think theyre hot shit all because theyre fetishized by low smv white men.
aj14 4y ago
elitealphc commented it perfectly: i feel like a chump because im the one marrying a girl that used to give it up to dudes for free basically. now that she's hit the wall and wants to settle, im the only chump that'll look at her.
bymxco 4y ago
Dont say that, this girl may very well have fucked you at 20 years old, in another alternate timeline. Thats literally out of her control, and out of yours. Shes 31 youre 25, it is what it is.
Are you settling? Do you have abundance? I dont mind cuffing a girl if she is worth my time, and the baggage usually comes with that. OBviously I vet to make sure theres little to no baggage before even considering LTR.
The question isnt why she is settling for you, its why you are settling for a 31 year old.
aj14 4y ago
How far out of line is it to ask about these prior 4? She told me before that she had wanted to explain why she did what she did and explain what she had done with each of these, but I reacted explosively. Now she says ive traumatized her into wanting to look into that part of her life and she wont share it with me because of the ptsd I gave her. I dont believe it for a second but theres that possibility.
bymxco 4y ago
That might have been the worst reaction you couldve given her. You managed to let her know that you are both jealous and judgmental. She will now hide these things from you and its going to be harder to unlock her sexuality. She will now avoid slutty sex or dialogue with you in fear that you have labeled her a slut, she will overcompensate to "im a good girl" and punish you with "im not that type of girl"
Generally you should never ask n-count. They wont tell you the truth anyways. After that you should never ask detailed questions like if they were bigger than you, better than you in bed, does she still love one of them, are you the most attractive one, etc
The correct way is she tells you her n-count somehow without you asking, and you being nonchalant about it, not even digging deeper. Then never bring it up again. Thats big dick energy (read: alpha male).
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bymxco 4y ago
Yeah just dont show it.
travel-bound 4y ago
You're 26, in a LTR with an older woman, believe she's only had sex with four men, and even though you believe that, you find it too icky she basically isn't a virgin.
Yes, you're beta as fuck. As a general rule, you have to ask if you're beta, you are beta.
Stop getting serious about older women. Who gives a shit if she is asian? Race is irrelevant unless her being asian is the only reason she doesn't look as haggard as most 31 year old women. That will catch up to her shortly. Are you interested in being the beta husband to an alpha female? Go for it. You'll be her bitch. She'll continue fucking other men like she is currently doing behind your back.
Or, realize what you are, and fix yourself.
aj14 4y ago
She initially told me it was 3 before breaking down and confessing it was 4 (well 5 if you include a girl). i really don't know if she's lying she seemed so positive about it being 4-5 when she could've just given the full truth. Although I did react explosively when she confessed to me the 4th.
"That will catch up to her shortly. Are you interested in being the beta husband to an alpha female? Go for it. You'll be her bitch. She'll continue fucking other men like she is currently doing behind your back." Fuck that shit. I need to break it off with her. How possible is it to keep her as a plate now that I consider it? Would it be too fucked up to pretend to be about marriage without ever actually moving forward on that?
travel-bound 4y ago
In some circumstances, turning a LTR into a plate can be fine, if you were already the alpha in the situation to begin with. In this circumstance, because of the dynamic there already was, it would be stupid. She wouldn't be your plate, you'd be hers.
Go fuck other women, you'll stop thinking about this afterwards. You're 26, and still in beta mode, but clearly don't want to be. Enjoy being a single young dude. Work on yourself. Improve. Make money. As you get older, things get easier and easier for men as long as you don't fall into the beta marriage trap. Marriage can only ever have a chance of working if you're genuinely an alpha male with a woman who understands the role of a woman and aspires to it.
travel-bound 4y ago
PS: This might sound crazy, but is she Malaysian and her name starts with an L? I doubt it, she just sounds a lot like my ex I had to drop a few years ago because she was secretly a bit psychotic. Haha.
aj14 4y ago
Nah she's chinese and her name starts with an X. Thanks for the advice! I would totally end up being her plate I think.
travel-bound 4y ago
Haha I knew it was a long shot, lots of Asians have PhDs. You'll be fine man. Focus on u ourself more than women and there will always be better women waiting.
coolsocks00 1 4y ago
It's a trap. Dont be stupid
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
That's not a hoe phase, that's normal dating. IF TRUE then it's pretty good. IF TRUE. Likely there are a lot of one night stands that "don't count".
You won't find less slutty than this.
The problem with "it's all in my past" is that .......... how sexual is she with you? Do you get the best of her?
THIS IS NOT THAT NASTY!
This (IF TRUE) is as virginal as you'll ever get in .
Scorpion69_ 4y ago
op here u have ur answer
aj14 4y ago
She had initially tried to tell me her past so i told her as long as it was a body count of 2 i wouldnt leave her. She said 3 and i said ok.
She revealed that its 4 to 5 earlier this week, with 5 being a girl.
She for sure gives me her best. So to say. She insists that shes never been raw and has never swallowed come--for me ive finished inside her mouth a few times.
The thing is deep down I'm just not happy knowing that other guys finished inside her, even though they finished inside a condom. I dont like that she was pathetic enough to fwb a guy.
Thanks for the advice. Is 4 really that virginal?
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
This was a dumb move on your part, you gotta admit. You basically told her to lie, and she did.
You will not find a girl over the age of 20 with a shorter sexual history than this.
4 is low.
Get used to it.
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
PS marriage is dumb as fuck, don't do it
Scorpion69_ 4y ago
btw guys downvoting ur comment are gay as fuck lol
mattyanon Admin 4y ago
You'll notice they downvote but don't provide any cogent well reasoned argument.
I think it's "I DO NOT LIKE THIS" rather than "I disagree because...."
whytehorse2021 4y ago
OMFG I think I pounded your future wife. Anyway, she did try to tell you about me and the other 6 or 5 or 12 guys(it was a party and we were all really drunk and a lot of guys went into that room where she was getting gang banged so not sure). Did she show you the video? God she was so enthusiastic and screaming when I came in her ass. I've never seen a woman take so much dick at one time. She even fucked the linebacker with a 9" cock. He claimed he got all the way in and his balls were slapping on her pubic bone.
Anyway, AWALT. My wife got fucked before I fucked her. Everyone's mom got fucked. It's just a fact of life. I'd say go get the Sex God Method and rock her world to remove any alpha widow BS. Get married and knock her up and then go poly. If she cheats get a divorce and take half her shit. If not, have a 2nd wife after she ages out to zero SMV. Meanwhile enjoy having your balls drained constantly.