I'd say a lot of men who complain of women not being LTR material still themselves aren't. We talk about what a woman has to offer, such as cooking, cleaning, emtotional value, personal values and character etc. and say most of them don't measure up. But what do most men have to offer to women? A lot of men here's emotional depth goes about as far as distrust and contempt towards women. Do you have skills in life to attract these types of women? Are you a light that people are drawn to and that people enjoy being around and love? Can you offer anything other than emotional manipulation and a self-aggrandizing ego?

A lot of men seem to use "being traditional" to attract the types of women who they consider LTR material into their lives, while putting the pressure to be traditional on the woman, as far as cooking, cleaning, expectations of submission, rather than being a traditional strong man that a traditional submissive woman would want to be with. If you are to be a leader in a relationship, you also have to lead by example, and be as or more capable than your woman.

I don't ever see men here actually having quality LTRs, and usually try to attract low quality women for quick and short term lays. While complaining about the lack of quality women. What steps do you think one needs to take to truly attract a high quality LTR material woman, or what characteristics and traits does he embody?