I view the Red Pill talk as I do the birds and the bees, drugs and alcohol, finance, etc. I've got a very mature 16 year old that will most likely fly the coop once he graduates from HS in two years.
How do I best prepare him now with the skills to not be taken advantage of out in the big wide world?
If its relevant, he and I are very close. Even though he's challenging me a bit more these days (normal adolescent shit), he listens to me. I don't want him wasting 20 years of his adult life driving the wrong direction, due to the faulty roadmap I was handed at his age.
Zackcid 10y ago
It doesn't have to be a big "Talk". With my younger brother, I'd subtly rant, or tell him stats, or point out sexism, bullshit, etc. on a regular or daily basis. I feed him little bits and pieces and allow him to see the proof through his own eyes: "Hey, this shop has 20 employees and they're ALL females, I guess Zackcid was right about sexism against males", etc.
Nowadays, he's evolved really nicely and I can tell his life is getting better. If you don't want to shock him, give him subtle little pieces on a regular basis until he sees the big picture on his own.
Stayinghereforreal 10y ago
All you can do is drop the right advice in his ear, and let it take hold.
For example, my old man once told me "If you are lucky, you will be able to count on your close family and one or two friends. Everyone else you meet in your whole life is just passing through, and you cannot count on them, so don't."
Another time he told me that women don't want an equal partner, they want to be dominated and led, to a greater or lesser extent.
I was a teenager at the time, and I didn't get the full meaning, but it stuck. Later life lessons drove his points home. Hard.
I always thought that was probably the best you can do. That and live your life in such a way that it serves as an example. When he sees you deal with people and situations with a reserved coolness, and a sense of ironic detachment and competence, he will likely model the behavior.
Opioidus 10y ago
The ''only'' way you can introduce your son into the ''real'' world is through Game. Boys will pay extra-ultra attention if you tell them things on how to get more/better girls easier. He will listen to you, and he will remember. Make a guy to guy tradition out of it.
I took my sister's son to the lake one weekend and talked to him about how to approach women, what kind of men women are generally attracted to, how not to be a loser with them and in the heat of the conversation, I threw bits and pieces of info about false rape, forced fatherhood, protecting himself against female manipulation, fucked-up legal system, reading between the lines and stuff like that. He's been coming back and trying to find me alone to ask more ever since, and I've never seen him happier!
footballtrav89 10y ago
You know how before taking the redpill it seemed like society had brainwashed you into being bluepill? Well in this case you just need to counter the brainwashing with your own opinions. Watch tons of movies and tv shows with your son and point out examples of shame tactics and other BS that you see.
TL;DR: shove the redpill down his throat.
[deleted] 10y ago
So in other words- brainwash them to take the redpill, because this isn't hypocritical at all
[deleted] 10y ago
No. Brainwashing is letting everyone believe there's only one way (blue pill).
footballtrav89 10y ago
If telling someone your own opinions constitutes brainwashing then yes. My dad brainwashed me with his views of killing people. I can attest every one of my zero total kills so far to his brainwashing.
SolluxCaptor2 10y ago
To some extent, everyone is brainwashed, especially in their youth. Parents will teach children their methods of living in larger societies, and this is technically brainwashing them. For example, 90% of the subscribers to the Red Pill had absent or crazy mothers, leading them to be brainwashed by bitter or abusive fathers into distrusting women and treating them like aliens instead of people.
footballtrav89 10y ago
In a study conducted at a very prestigious university, it was found that 99.9% of people who use the username "SolluxCaptor2" are full of crap.
SolluxCaptor2 10y ago
Ooh, scathing.
SolluxCaptor2 10y ago
Also, that must make me the 0.1% then.
footballtrav89 10y ago
I like that attitude...haha
[deleted] 10y ago
"Shove the redpill down his throat" doesn't equal telling someone your opinions. That's brainwashing
soapjackal 10y ago
Showing where there is shaming on TV doesn't constitute any of that. Shoving TRP down someone's throat could be seen as that, but TRP is just a search for truth. The most effective TRP teaching method is giving someone the tools of logic and skepticism so they may find the truth themselves.
footballtrav89 10y ago
Aggressively telling someone your opinions is still not brainwashing...go ahead and add the word "aggressively" before brainwashing in my reply above. If word choices i made have nothing to do with the validity of my advice.
HumanSockPuppet 10y ago
Show them this link - it's a catalogue of feminist shaming tactics, along with descriptions of the underlying fallacy and effective rational responses:
Exposing Feminism: Shaming Tactics
Beyond that, raise them to pursue their own goals without shame, and to seriously scrutinize anyone who tries to use platitudes rather than sound reasoning to oppose their ambitions.
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RedHonest 10y ago
The best advice that I give is to not take a girl seriously until she goes out of her way for you. In game terminology, that's basically compliance testing.
But your sons are going to have to figure out women for themselves for the most part.
TRPstudent 10y ago
You're right. I'm hoping to give them a foundation outside of the "Yes, dear", sitcom horseshit boys are flooded with these days. I like your recommendation about having a woman demonstrate her seriousness.
[deleted] 10y ago
Can a girl test you to see if you'll go out of your way for her?
RedHonest 10y ago
It's a general rule, more universal than the red pill.
[deleted] 10y ago
That doesn't really answer my question.