Okay, I must say that the whole “narcissism” thing seemed like bullshit to me, because of the fact that Reddit is gay and Reddit constantly talks about narcissists and how everyone is a narcissist.
But I saw a post where someone said something about narcissists that made sense.
Also, when I used Reddit to ask about my situation with oneitis before I found TRP, all of the advice from relationship advice and dating advice subreddits said I couldn’t take a hint and blamed me, but the one subreddit that blamed the girl (the girl laid it on thick) was r/narcissists or whatever.
Which suggests that MAYBE the narcissist subreddit is different from the rest of Reddit, meaning that perhaps narcissism is a real issue with women (and people in general), because the rest of Reddit is retarded so anything that isn’t like most of Reddit is likely more valid.
So I wonder if narcissism is a real and common thing?
I don’t have feelings for oneitis these days but I do think she’s a cunt, and part of my disdain towards women in general comes from the fact that they all lead people on (I gathered this opinion after all the retards on Reddit said it’s fine for a girl to go out of her way and to pretend to be interested and pull someone in, claiming that it’s the guy’s fault because “guys like you make girls uncomfortable so they lie to be safe”, which makes no sense because I had taken the presumed hint before oneitis lied and laid it on thick to pull me in, and I did nothing wrong at all between meeting and asking out).
So my point is, IF leading people on is a narcissistic trait, that means that it is possible that not every girl is a piece of shit, just as long as you can find a girl who isn’t a narcissist.
I read that narcissists say shit to pull people in, called lovebombing, but it’s only for their ego.
This was a huge issue with oneitis, so if it’s an actual condition she had and not just how women behave, then it’s compelling evidence that women aren’t all total heartless cunts, only the narcissistic ones.
I’ve even heard people here, however, say leading people on isn’t treating the person being led on like shit, but I’ve thought about it and I disagree.
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IBelieveInTheFallen 4 months ago
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IBelieveInTheFallen 4 months ago
Yeah idk, it was mostly just hardcore leading me on and if I said something about it she’d go on and on about how she is sorry she can’t hangout but that we will hangout and never changed her actions. So it was really fake. I literally would try to give her the opportunity to tell me she didn’t want to hangout and she’d assure me we would then never do it.
To be clear, I would say something like, “I don’t expect you to let me know so I’ll just wait to hear from you”. And she’d go, “that doesn’t mean I won’t let you know, I’m sorry I keep saying that ____” and go on and on.
So if that’s acceptable then yeah I’m back to thinking bitches are trash. I myself would refrain from telling someone I wasn’t interested when I was younger and not be straightforward with them but also not give them false hope, but just for a day, like if I accidentally matched on tinder without being interested in a girl and she was overeager I’d play along for a few messages and then find a way out without stating that I wasn’t interested, but if a girl communicated about whether or not I was interested I’d tell her.
So idk if that girl was a narcissist or not. She was a little cunt though. But I’d prefer if she was an actual narcissist so then I know it’s not normal behavior and I don’t have to think every woman is a cunt.
whytehorse2021 4 months ago
Narcissism is increasing and it is caused by society becoming more individualized. I have a narcissistic ex-mother and ex-business partner. More men are narcissists than women. More women are BPD than men. A hallmark trait of narcissists is they constantly need praise: "See what I did for you? Wasn't that nice of me?". Another trait is belittling others: "Wow, you can't even do THAT right". And one last trait is they will start arguments so they can tell you how great they are: "You asshole. I cook, clean, do everything around here".
What's really funny is they have an insecurity. My mom was the fat girl with a skinny sister. My partner was beaten by his father. Once you uncover their insecurity they unleash narcissistic rage. When you stop giving them praise it's just constant fighting which is usually when people end the relationship with the narcissist.
IBelieveInTheFallen 4 months ago
Yeah so idk if that girl in the OP was a narcissist. Some of the trademarks like having no empathy and stuff were there, but she didn’t ever attack me by starting arguments. It did seem like she was there to piss me off but in a passive way.
So I wonder if I have to conclude that they are all like that.
whytehorse2021 4 months ago
Yeah women are wired to care for babies which is a totally different neurology. A woman will never love you the way that you think she should. Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically. You are a success object to women. They are attracted to what you are, not who you are. Later on they "catch feelings" which is more akin to adopting you as her hypergamous best opportunity.
I've been with my wife 17 years and she's been very consistent in this. It's just something you have to learn to accept if you want a woman in your life. When my wife starts pissing me off it means I need to cum in her. Semen is an antidepressant and she gets all irritable when she doesn't get her man-juice.
User4566 4 months ago
Yes and whenever I come across them, I turn the tables and carry on with my life as if they don't exist. Sometimes, I get some good reactions out of them and they basically beg me to talk to them whenever I see them in person.
Other times, I get nothing. Which is fine.
mattyanon 4 months ago
It's more of a problem with women.
it is
They do. Instinctive, easy, and they plan for it and maintain it, including instant excuses for when they are called on it. They know what they're doing and they make it happen.
reddit is full of women and betas.
Our gynocentric society blame men for everything (including female behviour) and absolves women of all responsibility (see above about it being a man's fault).
The whole "they lie to be safe" is just an excuse, because the same behaviour happens online where safety is not a concern.
Some are better than others, but there are no unicorns.
BPD people does this too.
Most are somewhat narcissistic, selfish. Women are mostly sponges, men mostly givers. They vary, but it's not like women have protective instincts towards men.
It's treating people like shit, and anyone who says otherwise is purely pro-female and fuck men. Which is most people.
IBelieveInTheFallen 4 months ago
Of course not, but there’s degrees. For instance, if a girl was interested in me but I wasn’t interested back, I might talk for a few minutes to be nice but I sure as hell am not going to go throwing out anything over the top that suggests I’m interested when I’m not. So that’s my point. Also, ghosting is actually an acceptable thing in my opinion (early on - don’t get someone attached them ghost). So either a person can admit they’re not interested without being called out first, or she can ghost. Ghosting accomplished the same thing - ambiguity and avoiding confrontation - without giving false hope and making someone have to feel lied to and wonder why someone said certain things when they were meaningless. Every time a girl ghosts me, I don’t care that much. So that’s the better thing to do, but it is a bit more overt, so I think the ones who refuse to be overt through means of ghosting are narcissists who want everyone to think they’re great people.
Very good point.
I’ll look into that.
Yes, it is fucked up. Women deserve no respect until they earn it, and beta men who defend women as a whole deserve no respect.
mattyanon 4 months ago
Understand that this is 95% of men.
IBelieveInTheFallen 4 months ago
I understand, and I have said many times that it’s hard to even find good guys to be friends with.
Usually I’ve said it about the fact that most are not trustworthy but it goes hand in hand.
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Lol I’m not a teen but thanks.