I need some help right now. I'm painfully depressed. Last week, I came to school in a but of a pissy mood and a girl I knew opened up her emotions to me and also made it very clear that she cares about me. She was rubbing my hand and hugged me a bunch of times. I felt something that I haven't felt in years. Affection. I've always looked at girls as emotionally unstable whores but this one sparked something in me that I hate to admit I have.
Today, I see her and she's hugging EVERY guy we know and she's acting like a crazy little child. I then felt... empty. Like it was all just for fun in her eyes. I should have known better. It is 100% my fault to even consider her something other than a crazy bitch for 5 seconds. I'm going to continue to ignore her even after she told me some very personal things.
I've also had it pretty bad with cold approaches. Girls always act interested and give me their number, but that's always as good as it gets. I feel like they are just giving me it just to get me the fuck out of their face. When I call them or try to arrange a coffee date, I always get a "maybe" or no response at all. Is cold approaching even worth it anymore? I mean, I find it pretty fucking far fetched that a girl would be willing to make time to meet a guy to hang out that she only knew for 5 minutes unless he was a moviestar. Especially 7's and above, they already HAVE plenty of dick and their own little rotation. I think I'm a good looking guy, I go to the gym and am 6'4" 205 pounds with abs.
I'm lost. I'm sorry but I'm in serious emotional pain. But I AM CHANGING! I just need some guidance right now. Thanks for reading my word vommit. In all seriousness, it means a lot to me that people on here are willing to listen and tell me what I need to hear. There's not many people I can count on for that in my real life.
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Stop the oneitis thing for a start. Make a move next time also, maybe... I dunno about that situation it might have been a friendzone thing. Never done cold approaches really, dunno about those. I've mostly met girls at college, work or the gym. And never cold, always only after I get some sort of relatively strong IOI from them. A lot of girls will meet a guy they've only talked with for a short time though, as long as it's a public venue ime. Been doing OLD lately myself and if you seem cool and make them feel comfortable with you, they will want to meet you pretty quick a lot of the time.
If you want to try OLD I can help ya, if you'd like. pm me.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I cold approach at country dance bars. It's not 100% cold like at a grocery store where it's completely unexpected, but it's still 100% cold in that I don't know them at all.
As I've mentioned before to your posts, whether they ask you personal questions or not is a big indicator of interest. If they're just shooting the shit without personal questions, then they are probably not interested. Doesn't matter if they smile or laugh. They need to be interested enough to want to know who you are.
That means no causally dropping what you do for work, hobbies etc (apart from some small bait crumbs) until they ask. I won't even tell the girl my name first, because her asking for it is such a big sign of interest in of itself. She doesn't know you at all, any semblance of trying to know who you are instead of running out the clock is pure gold.
Also, you mention in your post that you call or text them to go out for coffee. This should be asked BEFORE you get the number. It filters out the girls who won't go on a date with you before you even ask for the number. Hell, I even set up the time and day, because fuck it why not.
A lot of this info is in "Day Bang" by Roosh V, but he became Christian and stopped selling his books, even digitally.
And you have to realize 60% of women minimum will just not go out with you. It doesn't matter who you are, 60% of women MINIMUM will be taken, PMSing, not looking, not expecting a random guy to date, having a shit day etc. It's a numbers game, even the best pickup artists are not scoring half the women they approach.
You don't need to be a GigaChad in your casual approaches, just be a normal (but not boring) guy. Save the cocky shit for social situations where people are expecting for there to be a certain energy. Don't ask what she does etc until she asks you, sucks out the ability for you to know if she's interested
Edit: also, it constantly sounds like these few girls in your social group are weighing you down. Seriously do a cost-benefit ratio of being around them. You keep posting about them, something's obviously not going well
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
My bad man, I said that somewhat loosely and short-handed. I don't "ask" them per se. I say whatever comes off my tongue in the moment, but never asking, stuff like:
"that sounds good, we should trade contact info"
"Cool, I can give you my number so we can plan further"
Some variation
Unless I misunderstood your question, my thoughts on giving the number with seeing if she'll reach out just adds some extra steps.
1) seems girls are afraid of rejection, probably moreso than guys. Hit or miss if she ends up self-rejecting herself having to make the first move
2) girls don't text for logistics, chances of having to deal with inane small talk increases when she makes the first move.
I personally think it's easier to just suggest a date, if she says anything other than "yes!" you already know it's going to be a likely time waste. I like your approach, I just don't like to leave my cards to fate
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Good to see that that strategy has success as well. It's definitely the most time effectient for sure, just comes down to preference
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berttbarnes94 2y ago
Sounds like you just need to level up bro. You’re 6’4 and in shape? Somethings missing then because you should have plenty of options. How’s your sense of style/fashion? What’s your haircut look like? Hygiene?
From a dating app perspective you should be killing it. I’d say retake your photos to get some high quality ones.
Your texting game might be off too.
My favorite guys on YouTube are ams, StephIsCold, and austin Dunham. Study up their videos
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Don't fall for this. She doesn't care for you, it's a temporary fixation thing.
Take girls on instadates, hang out with them more at the time.
Girls will hang out with a guy they know for less than 5 mins.
But if this is a blocker for you: hang out for more than 5 mins.
Try different stuff. see what works for you.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Women love opportunistically, men love idealistically. We are lied to and told women are romantic, they want romance, they like nice guys, yadda yadda It's actually us men who are romantic. There's a reason why you get a dog when you're a man. A dog will love you they way you think a woman should love you. A dog will give you affection. A woman will just see you as an opportunity.