As title says im looking for some tips on proceeding with dating and vetting for possible (o)LTRs, and how (if?) you think that process should differ from plating.
If any existing resource covers this more please point me in the right direction.
Im not looking for an LTR specifically but i sometimes want to invest more than others. Current example i have is a chick who might be a good prospect just judging from first date; great sex, submissive, hot as hell, relatively conservative, fun.
She enjoyed it a lot but after the date ive been having some analysis paralysis just thinking of whether i should angle further dates differently than my normal routine (lower value girls usually, no interest in more than sex).
Just try to plate and then upgrade in time? Or invest more in the dates from the get go to potentially show some higher value?
natural-order 2y ago
Invest more in dates but keep the sexual dynamic as "wild alpha" so she is more inclined to be open and transparent about her sexual history.
Over time give the impression that you're seeing whether she's worth it or not rather than looking like you want to blindly push for commitment
Don't get caught up in the madonna-whore complex. You want her to be both your madonna and whore.
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
Thanks, this is what i have in mind. I'm usually pretty cold and aloof when it comes to plates, which makes it more obvious what my intent is. This has not worked well in the past with girls of a higher caliber, that just seem to require a bit more comfort up front in order to rationalise their own actions.
Hooked up with a girl on thursday that was a great lay, texted briefly day after and i ended up telling her to text me when she wants to meet again. I usually just see what sticks after that. But im planning to hit this one up either way. I know that's going back on what i said about her texting me but at the same time i feel such things are minor and im just taking charge by doing what i want.
Thoughts?
unplugged69 2y ago
Text them when you want and don't overthink it, however under no circumstances should you change your game.
If you start investing more in dates after your first date you give off beta bux signals and her snatch will be drier that the Sahara desert.
You need to read the Humansockpuppet guides on managing bitches, teasing bitches and getting for LTR.
In summary go spin plates, eventually some plates will get attached to you and want to see you more and do non-sexual favours and try to have the "what are we" talk. If you are hot shit you will experience this with a lot of plates.
If you don't get this and you feel like you need to put in the work and invest to keep the relationship going, then either you are acting too beta in which case acting more beta will not help, or your SVM is not high enough in which case go lift, eat right, become more interesting, improve your social proof and improve your inner game and keep at it.
Eventually you'll have 4 plates and at any given time 2 or more are trying to lock you down, once you are there you may proceed to the next stage of vetting for LTR.
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
Good take. I will just improve my game in general instead of changing anything up and complicating it. Still have a lot to work on with SMV but its improving quickly.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Let the woman bring it up. Personally, I would go for an exclusive relationship with non-exclusive sex. That way she can't use sex to control you and the relationship has to be based on merit.
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
How does that differ from an open relationship?
Preferrably i would go for an LTR thats open on my end and closed on hers, but i dont think my frame is close to being good enough to keep that up at this point.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Well, I would set the frame by telling the woman that I am considering her for a wife/mother and that she is also free to have sex with other men but I am not interested in marrying a promiscuous woman. I would also mention that I probably wouldn't even bother with having sex with other women if she steps up her sex game and takes the fire out of me.
An open relationship is what women call plates. Totally different from what we're talking about here.
YourOwnDisaster 2y ago
Please give this a read. A LTR is not a good goal to go into dating with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3pltm2/humansockpuppets_guide_to_managing_your_bitches/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
Was looking for that post. Thanks