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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Public service message: If you enjoy the content, please consider posting this link to the Reddit version of WAATGM since I cannot. It drives more traffic to this site, such as myself, and that's how the content creation happens. Please do your part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlC5DEp2EOQ
@Typo-MAGAshiv flaired as gold digger as discussed.
All of you! You heard her! Don’t judge her for being tired and giving up by going online and allowing someone to wife up a 35 year old woman wanting to retire in luxury. She doesn’t want to become a CEO anymore!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That cuts both ways, sweaty.
I absolutely love how many of these "strong, independent women" (btw @polishknight - I'm going to do a quick review of the flair guide and maybe reflair to that one depending on what each says) realize that working like a man actually sucks. What's even sadder is that most of them don't even work as hard. Yes, I've known a few who do, but they're the exceptions and not the norm. Yet at 35, which is way too old for a woman to say "I'm ready to start a family" but still young enough that she's not even halfway to retirement yet, she's already sick of working.
LMAO, when I was 36, I got into what was a brand new trade and career for me. It was my second career change, and I was a year older than her and just starting back out. Yes, I'm sick of working too at 46 now, but I've been doing shit-tons of overtime for the past decade. I could easily do 40 hour weeks until my mid-50s or early 60s. I'm mostly just sick of 50, 60+ hour weeks.
So when I hear a 35 year old, who probably only has only ever worked 40 hours per week, and most likely in an air conditioned office environment, whining like she is in the video, allow me a little "too fucking bad, sweaty! this is what your sisterhood fought so hard for! NOW GET BACK TO WORK!"
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
The entitlement is delicious. Why, she's ready for a man to gift her the keys to a NEW car. Why? Because, like work work, cars quickly become work so it's nice to have a new car under warranty and, as a Princess with a va-jay-jay, that entitles her to a patriarchal oppression of living in luxury in exchange for occasional transactional sex (when she's in the mood, of course!).
Gee, apparently not. ALL career women are CEO's or boss-babes hanging out the club to play golf and cut billion dollar business deals. Can you believe it?
"What would you do if you had a million dollars?" https://youtu.be/Wu2HhlTEHMc
Perhaps THIS might clear your approval for WATGMA, but I'll tell the story of the Denny's waitress who wanted me to wife her up and buy her a new car and home.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
What she fails to grasp is the man that can afford to do that can also just afford a "new" woman instead. Less repairs needed and a better ride, as it were.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Less repairs needed and a better ride and no leaks.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1mo ago
"Pat on the back, you did it for a long time girl"....... fuck, she's 35, she's been in the workforce for 15 years as a privileged white woman and she doesn't look like she's had a hard life.
Come back at 65 when you've worked down the mines all your fucking life.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
"But being the DEI coordinator at my woke company's HR department is HaAaAaArD! Ever since covid I've had to work from home every day, and I only have 30 days paid vacation a year with a full benefits package! I'm so oppressed!"
Treadmill Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Yes, living on your own is hard. Humans are not designed to be high-agency individuals all the time. We need a group and people to belong to. The strong, independent girlboss lifestyle will never make you happy.
So as a woman who has now seen the light, what are you going to do about it? Will you tell the youngsters to not waste time partying? To not fuck guys they barely know while also going on traditional dates with the romantics? To prioritize building a good relationship early on so they don't end up in your shoes, desperate and alone?
Of course not. Who are you to tell them what to do with their bodies? They should be allowed to just have fun and enjoy their youth being "single". Then they too can turn 35 and wonder why they feel so unhappy, just like you.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Women failing at feminism. Too late, boss babe, you missed the boat almost two decades ago.
Maybe you can find yourself a nice fluffy bear to settle down with. Grizzle Grizzle.
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
grizzle grizzle. I love it!!!
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Okay girl, so just go to the billionaire playboy CEO store and pick out a nice one for you, there's so many to choose from! They're all dying to be the wallet to a 35-year old retired girlboss with a princess complex, nothing would bring them more joy I assure you.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I almost imagine women such as this deciding on a whim, almost as if they think they're the first person or a genius for doing so, that they'll get on a dating app and "ask the computer" "Hey! I decided I want a hot CEO who wants a high maintenance trad wife! He should also enjoy complimenting me every 10 seconds!" thinking that she'll be presented with about 100 different guys to choose from. Sort of like The Pig Woman experiment in reverse.
There's some guys on here that belong to the millionaire-club dating apps and they no doubt see a lot of women like this on them. We need more of those profiles here to laugh at.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Almost? Of course they think they are the first/only woman to think of this clever plan, doing otherwise would require realizing and accepting that there are other people in the world with wants and needs of their own, and who can say "No". Being mentally stuck in adolescence like that is how they ended up a post wall hag that men don't want to marry to begin with.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 1mo ago
She is asking for this at 35. Not only is she in the wrong period of time to be asking for this, but she is also the wrong age to be able to expect this. What you want and what you expect are often different, and it is best to operate based on what you expect than what you want, since wants are basically just wishes, only there is no magic genie to grant them. And as for expectations, they also must be realistic for this to work.
Another thing, she better have her homemaking skills on point if she wants "someone to take care of her." Because marriage is already a distasteful prospect for many men in ideal circumstances. With a 35 year old woman, you will be lucky if you can have 1 or 2 naturally born children without IVF. So at bare minimum she better be able to offer a man the ability to make a home cooked meal and keep the place tidy. And by "home-cooked", I don't mean something you take directly from the freezer section of the grocery store and pop in the oven. I mean meals from scratch with ingredients that need some peeling, cutting, and cooking. She would not need to be a master chef, but things like soups, roasted meat with various vegetables, pasta, or any other equivalent effort meal should be done.
But based on the "take care of me" mindset, I don't think she is thinking about that side of the equation. And I doubt a lifetime of being a "boss-bitch" has properly prepared her for what she would need to do to get a man she is thinking of. And such a man who would provide that is most likely going to look elsewhere than a 35 year old. Or perhaps she better be fine with older men, who might accept a relatively younger woman.
Everpax Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
The man she is envisioning is one that already has a personal chef and maids. Where her fantasy falls apart isn't even on her inability to cook or clean, it's in failing to realize how disposable she would be to the type of man she is thinking of.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Yeah this sort of thing is only viable to pull off if she comes from an Old Money family with the requisite socioeconomic connections that makes it worth it for a successful man to put up with a perimenopausal hag. And even then he's likely to fuck some ugly maid that at least treats him decent. (example: Ahh-nold Schwarzenegger)
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
To me its the patting herself on the back for making it to 35 bit that educates and entertains most.
She knows she has been a good girl and done something she found hard and against her nature. She did what her teachers and parents and Cosmo and Oprah all told her to do. She done good. She tried her best at a hard game. I think we should take her at face value here. There are so many more like her -miseducated young women trying to make careers in a world that hands them advantages and opportunities to try to push them in this direction so they can pay tax to the big state and break the family up. Women do need all those leg ups to get out in the world of men. Its not natural for them.
The problem is education. You can educate a girl till she is mid 20's and has a second or third degree in sociology but it actually gives her very little benefit past a lot of feel good experiences when she was young, energetic and the centre of attention.
The problem is with women's education. Having more money than a young man of similar age because women get hired and promoted easier then leads to expectations of having so much in life. Hypergamy won't go into reverse. She has about zero hope of getting what she wants and it working out. She is ruined by the system.
Where I am from the gypsies take their daughters out of school at 11. Cleaning caravans doesn't need much book learning. My lady looks at it and says "Good for them". My lady suffers from the problem of having had a career and then settled with a man with a low income. She does a little work and never pays a penny into the home. She tells her own daughter to work hard at school so as not to be dependent on a man like her but then she admires the gypsies who get married young to blue pill trad cons before they get huge expectations. Married to a blue pill trad con who has more money than you can want to spend is the real female dream. It has been since forever - look at all the fairy tales of hot girls marrying princes.
The problem is a huge system that indoctrinates and miseducates girls to make them useful to the state and to make the state responsible for families not men and women.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1mo ago
I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that the problem is less with education itself and more with the hopelessly skewed priorities of the "education" system in most western nations. If I'm working to support my family I'm likely going to be doing so outside the home, so I'd want my children's mother to know enough about the world to be capable of answering their questions as they're growing, or at least capable of guiding them in the appropriate direction to learn the answers themselves.
Not really a counter to your point, of course, but I thought it worth highlighting as an additional angle.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Or for example knowing enough math to be able to balance a checkbook or whatever the current equivalent happens to be. A SAHM needs to be able to keep the household from falling apart while the man is away doing the shit naturally foisted upon men to so. And know how to budget money instead of just blowing it all on fripperies the second the man is distracted. AND FOR FUCKS SAKE A SAHM NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO FUCKING COOK INSTEAD OF DOORDASH OR MAKE SHIT FROM A BOX!
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as women's education. I honestly think burning the entire system down and not letting the State near our kids is the best course of action.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Happy Monday.
I get mental tingles when I see men refer to women as "ladies" because it reminds me of my pseudonym where ladies and "gentlemen" were literal titles reserved for the nobles whose feudal authority guaranteed them a genteel lifestyle rather than actual merit.
Knights were the exception to this rule in that if a young man who was otherwise cash poor for some reason was an officer and well decorated, the noblemen would offer him her daughter with huge tracts of land for a dowry to curry favor with The King. Sometimes daughters would be married off to the man best able to take care of them even if the daughter found the union distasteful such as the Butcher in the classic musical Fiddler on the Roof. What are fathers supposed to do with spinsters? Let her eat him out of house and home? The primary value that women, er, Ladies offer (and some of them are blunt enough to tell us) is their womb and sexual assets and a father cannot utilize those although in the era of aging career women needing surrogate mothers, perhaps enterprising fathers could rent out his daughters' womb...
It's an utter guess for me, of course, but I suspect that this notion of women as default "ladies", or nobility, arose from a romanticization of the period expressed in Don Quixote and future novels to justify the nobility's entitlements. To paraphrase Monty Python's Holy Grail: "How do you know he's The King?" "He doesn't have shit all over him." They have courtly mannerisms and behaviors to illustrate their moral superiority to a peasant who literally doesn't have a bucket to piss in.
And this USED to be what was meant by the virtue signaling middle class to try to appear noble by telling "ladies" to sit up straight, to not fart at the dinner table, to think before speaking, and so on. Feminism appears to track with a degradation of women's manners and dress as they appear more like peasants with face piercings and tattoos. So in that regard, "Lady" wasn't a bad thing to say.
But sheesh, if they don't have huge tracts of land, they're just LARPING aren't they?
One addition: Does anyone actually read Cosmo anymore? I recall them piled up in my sister's room but I looked at the newsstand and, yikes, they're like $12 an issue now?!?!
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Sorry just showing my age with Cosmo. We used to read them as teenage boys in the hope of finding out how to give women orgasms as there was always something about that it seemed.
Where I am from Lady can be a title but usually it is just her job (or rather lack thereof). A woman with a real job cannot be a lady, just as a man who works cannot really be a gentleman unless he has sufficient independent means to mean that his work is only for fun and self improvement.
I think they all want to be ladies. They all want to be a gentleman's wife.
Do you like the old British TV show Keeping up appearances? Mrs Bucket is modelled after a type of woman they used to call "Mrs Lady" She wants to be a lady but really she is just a housewife. This is not a dissimilar position to my lady's except I think her regret is that she is with a man who was educated to be a gentleman but ended up a peasant who actually thinks that moderation and parsimony are virtues.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
BOOKAY RESIDENCE, LADY OF THE HOUSE SPEAKING!
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1mo ago
the best advice is still that of Kevin..... 'go and find a time machine'
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Time machine not needed but building a time machine would be preferable to them.
Actual effort. The stuff they say they want from men.
Approach men, deal with crushing rejection, self-improvement such as learning how to be pleasant at a dinner table instead of critical, actual empathy with men where instead of projecting her demands onto men as "standards", knowing what in-demand top-tier men are looking for.
These USED to be traits women had a mere century ago and now is regarded by feminists as a sign of "oppression". "Women HAD to be pleasant and think about what men want because she NEEDED him to support her! Now we just want his money to ADD to our lives so we don't have to respect him!"
In a way that's true, but that doesn't necessarily make having a work ethic a bad thing even if someone usually MUST work.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I'll tell you what lady. You find a man like that, I'll fuck him. I would like to know someone like that myself.
What I think caused the new direction in her life was imposed by life. She was aging out and losing out to younger women in the dating game, so she quit the game. She quit a game she could not win. So she is trying to play another game called the Trad Wife. Good Luck with that.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Dear Hoe,
After careful consideration, we have unfortunately decided to deny your request. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors!
Love, the Patriarchs