Honestly I haven''t been this disgusted in a good long while, these females are mental.

Everything I read just made me celebrate being MGTOW Monk even more.

As much as the FDS crowd wants to appear special and show off that they have achieved a higher outcome, their “strategies”, or rather tactics are unfortunately lagging instead of leading.

1. For those women below 24 (the highest attraction years), the awakening to FDS is precipitated by repeated pump n dumps, not by a desire to settle down. The N count reported is high, the alphas that ran through her never consider her for main b*tch status, and she’s simply out to reject them in spite. She desires a high value man, as long as that character can be swiped right on.

2. Women at the tail end of their fertility window that are setting themselves up for the largest divorce settlement possible. FDS appears to be a simp sorting system, which for the women means they get to single mom status a bit slower.

Where FDS completely lags is the public nature of their tactics. Any smart tactician wouldn’t reveal the secret sauce, instead tailoring themselves to the social group they move in. On too, several of the 48 laws of power were violated, the most severe one being law 1: never upstage the king (the mother in law). Rich men tend to have mothers that see through a GF’s motives in a snap.

Those aren't women. They are more like hyenas. I have no doubt such women exist, but most men can see them a mile out if they don't let themselves get blind.

The only good advice for women can come from:

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-An ugly/average woman

-Who locked and alpha (a true alpha, not just somebody rich/high status/famous)

-Has been married to him for at least a decade

-Still loves his husband

-His husband has lot of options, but decides to remain with her.

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That woman should really know how to treat a man.

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But most advice on that subreddit comes from woman who completely failed at relationships, and still have the narcissism of pretending that they can give romantic advice to other women.

It's over for humanity rip

Lol, well they are welcome to behave any way they want. As for me, I’m going fishing.

Honestly this post just sounds like trollxers complaining about the redpill.

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These girls came up with a simlar sexual strategy and you are all know bitching about it?

These strategies work with betas, not with alfas or redpilled alfas in the way.

I got a similar situation with a snob thot that was already post-wall woman. She wanted me to stop having sex, to cut it out because she was tired and she didn't wanted me to finish. That relationship ended right there.

Now she's the same frustrated thot thinking she can have valuable men and dominate them with such stupid tactics.

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If he actually offered exclusivity, and you guys were confirmed bf/gf, but you were still dating other men on the side, then you have two options: 1.) Lie about seeing other men and paint it as a misunderstanding on his part

I have actually had a girl try to pull this stunt (although she initiated the "Are you seeing other people" talk). She tried to pass it off as a misunderstanding at first, then wanted to go to couples therapy and then offered a 1 sided open relationship so I could "get even". Even blue pilled me back then walked away and I ended up with messages from her friend saying she was self harming and asking why I wouldn't give her another chance.

It's truly awful advice. They don't realize that they may eventually meet a decent guy, catch feelings and then feel guilty or be found out and dumped. I feel sorry for them, such a short sighted tactic.

As far as this whole strategy goes, it looks to be another case of women piggybacking on something men created (PUA). Except they are stuck in the early 2000's, when these pick-up artists were all the rage and the advice was mainly to deceive the other sex into thinking that you were alpha. So too are these women deceiving men, by claiming they're high value but offering nothing but sloppy seconds (thirds, etc.) of their body. Whereas men have since learned that improving yourself for real is the best way to attract women, these women are stuck still trying to deceive men for their own personal gain.

I wouldn't be too concerned though; just avoid women like this and they'll concern themselves more with cat adoption and wine drinking once they age out of the dating pool. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, true, but men are the gatekeepers of relationships. And while men can always improve themselves in an effort to get laid (money, status, etc.), women can't reverse what time does to their body and beauty. And if their body is their only asset, women like this may wake up one day to find out that the window to find a quality relationship is closed forever..

Reminds me of something I read recently.

Ladies love to take their anger at attractive men and direct it at men they see as low value.

To sum up, these women want money. That's it. Mind you, it's just a troll subreddit, but lets say some women actually buy into it.

Women don't care about sex, and before you argue, women don't enter relationships for sex. Sex is easy to get. even with "hawt guys". This is about relationships. And women do not form relationships with men unless they're getting something out of it. I know this sounds rational for all humans, the problem is women do it too and that needs to be known.

So these ladies think these are some sort of strategies. It's merely tactics. It'll work on some stupid guy with an inherence or some recently drafted sports guy, but that's it.

there are no "high value" women. Unless you're a virgin and a 10, you're not "high value". No one gives a shit about education and career in looking for a mate and mother of children. Sorry.

However, I support their message 100%, and hope all women follow these "strategies".

One of the questions I have is what a reasonable time to wait before sex is. If a woman gives it up to me the same night she meets me, she's probably done that with other guys as well, and therefore has a high partner count and isn't good for a relationship. On the other hand, you don't want to waste time on one of these bitches who's just stringing you along. So how much time/effort should you be willing to invest in a woman before moving on?

I hate and love that sub. It's partly like joker a decent into the mad mind (of a lonely cat lady).

These are older, lonely women who has so much hatred (probably about their life choices) towards men. Circle jerking trying to convince themselves they don't need a man.

I'm willing to bet they've been fuckzoned for ages without understanding why a man would fuck them with no thoughts of committing.

Most of the argument I've seen is basically gender swapped from male red pill communities or some weird hamster "logic".

Like the idea of a male wall seems to be something women truly want to believe in. And sure, purely pretty boys might hit the wall, but it's a rare exception for a man to be popular just by existing.

Men start their lives trying to climb the wall and gain value while women start valued since their fertility is their biggest treasure. And it's finite.

But what makes that sub truly sad is that they are unhappy about their lives trying to convince others to choose the same path. It's beyond evil, the kind of evil women shows towards each other.

Comparing it to say MGTOW, where there are plenty of TRP-rage aimed towards women, it's like that movie quote "men without accountability and reason".

Because in MGTOW men are trying to help other men to avoid the same misstake (marriage), while the people on FDS just hate on men without acknowledging their personal mistakes and promotes a life style that has left them hateful, bitter and barren.

Some clearly has just read on MGTOW/TRP and swapped the gender because the alternative would be realizing their own misstakes.

Another key difference lies in the female manipulation. Especially somewhat pretty girls will be so used to men putting up with their awful behavior that they don't see any wrong in pure manipulation.

Also, the herd mentality works like an echo chamber where women won't act independently and care about the opinions and actions of others to justify their own.

That sub is so red pill it's scary, they are open about how shitty they are and anything flies because, hurting men means nothing...

Thanks for posting this. I'd add one thing I've seen on that subreddit (note that I have never commented or engaged with any of them). They encourage women to pursue their careers and then milk men for further resources on the side. IOW, both women and men have careers, women take money and resources from men while giving nothing back, thus furthering their own financial well being and getting ahead of everyone else as a result.

Women know how to behave well with men they want. 

This is the natural dynamic that damaged women like this tend to belittle, mock and try to destroy. Damaged women want to have their egos protected after a life full of mistakes and their preferred way of going about it is to normalize behavior like this and to make it the new normal so that they would not stand out.

Women will submit to a man they are attracted to. While men are attracted to innocence in women, women are attracted to mastery in men. Men and women try to win over their loved ones by catering to this very natural dynamic. This is why men try to one-up/amog each other or try to impress women in other ways and women try to be very submissive and compliant while trying to attract the attention of the guy she likes.

This mastery predominantly involves the ability of said man to gain respect from men and women surrounding him. Damaged women who go after fuckboys substitute rule breaking for this aspect, since they are damaged themselves and have a grudge against the system.

Behaviors that are encouraged by these women are only good at attracting such damaged men over the short term or naive and easily manipulable men over the relative long term. Either way, this does not last.

A high relationship value woman is honest, faithful, loyal, attentive, a clear communicator, reliable, giving, compassionate, practices good physical and mental self-care, does what she says she'll do, and does what her man asks of her. It is true that all women have it in them not to be these things. But a high relationship value woman at least tries to do these things.

Any woman who deems you high value and is interested in a relationship will do the same. Average women have the capability to be like this to at least some men. The damaged women under discussion have lost their ability to be this to a vast majority of men. This is why they have to expressly rely on deceit and manipulation to achieve their objectives. They only know how to be used or how to use. They do not know what a symbiotic relationship looks like.

This is nothing but a desperate attempt to retain the power women have abused. TRP and MGTOW teaches men how to have power over themselves. They do not teach men to manipulate women. It is often repeated in both ideologies that the only one you can control is yourself. This is the opposite of that. This is women, as usual, attempting to control others so that they don't have to improve (Refer the passage about making a guy stop just before cumming).

What this will help do is to wake up a lot of people to the despicable strategies that women already employ.

There is a quote by Truman Capote that relates to what we're seeing here: "The problem with living outside the law is that you no longer have its protection". The fundamental defining characteristic of feminism is defiance: defiance to men, defiance to the system, defiance to heterosexuality, defiance to families, defiance to order etc. While some women pretend to be cooperating when time comes for them to face the rap, these specific women are doubling down. This escalation will only result in a similar escalation from the other side. In typical fashion, these women have not thought the long term implications of what they will eventually propagate (if they're successful which is doubtful these days) and are only interested in their own selfish, short term success.

There is no need to do anything special with regards to these women. Treat them like every other woman and do not let them take advantage of you. Remember that hate is the same thing as love to women. They don't care if you hate them or love them. Indifference is what they're afraid of. Observe what they do and guard yourself against it. Do not engage.

Be aware and stay safe.

So, it's basically TheRedPill, but for women. Amoral strategies to manipulate your way to your goal. But, for women the goal is "commitment" instead of "sex."

I subscribed to that subreddit. Then i got autobanned for posting in TRP, go figure

It makes for chilling read. Not because of the content in itself. But because if you were to read the content without thinking of the origin, you'd never in a million years believe if someone told you TRP is "controversal", "shocking" and quaranteened and FDS is not

You hit the nail on the head perfectly with the fact that their championed "strategies" fail to get them what they really want, since it works in the opposite of what they really want.

One thing I have noticed about r-femaledatingstrategy is that they simply proclaim that they are the ultimate prize (queens) and never really press for any introspection for whether or not they are as great as the profess. This is different from theredpill, which tells men that they need to ascend to a better standing rather than just declaring that they are already there (I am not a fan of much of the hedonism that is often championed there, but I recognize differences). Since r-femaledatingstrategy advises women to see themselves as already on top, that will lead them to overestimate what they should really expect to get for a man (not unique to that subreddit, but certainly taken to the extreme). This as well will lead them to not getting what they want in the end.

The reason they assert that they are already on top comes down to the fact that they do not want to actually work towards being a high quality woman. They are simply too lazy to put in the work, as well as lacking in moral fiber. It is just easier to claim to be high quality than to actually be high quality.

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fds is easily one of the worst hate filled subs here

tesla had it right a hundred years or so ago, when he noted that then nascent (women's "rights") movement was most harmful to women themselves.

They seriously think lies are forever? Jesus, they get dumber every second.

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Tl;dr Be the guy she fucks without commitment.

Nothing really new in that sub. It seems that they read TRP, interpreted it in the most spergy way possible, and then tried to apply it to the standard female manipulative tactics that have been around as long as humanity (weaponizing sex, extracting resources, infidelity, the betaization process, and the optimization of hypergamy). As it's always been, the type of guy that's either dumb or desperate enough to fall for it isn't a guy that they really want anyway.

Of course, their strategy completely ignores the other side of the coin. For male strategies, rule 1 and rule 2 are paramount. We tell you to lift weights, learn game, take ownership of your life, get your financial house in order, dress well, lead, and to be socially engaging, interesting, and well read. You do all of that to increase your value before you worry about women. What are these women doing to increase their value?

The bottom line is that whatever strategy she chooses to employ doesn't matter if you control the frame. There's a reason Rollo put this at the top of the list. My frame is that my time is too valuable to give away indiscriminately, that my commitment (to the extent that I'm willing to give it) must be earned, my boundaries are nonnegotiable, and that all women are replaceable. As far as I'm concerned, an FDS woman can either abandon her silly games, we can go our separate ways, or I'll be the guy she fucks between "relationship guys." Doesn't really matter which one...

Let me guess, these cunts think that a "high value woman" is a woman who is a stuck up bitch, doesn't put out, is entitled, a narcissist and plays hard to get?

Lol, no cunts. A high value woman brings something to the table other than their vagina, isn't older than 22, isn't a slut and puts as much effort into a relationship, including the courtship phase as her partner. Oh, and also isn't a fat fuck. If you fail to meet any of these, you aren't a high value woman and men know it.