So, awhile back I posted about Confessions of an Alpha Widow/Branch Swinger
Here's an update on the scenario involving Woman A that I think the community may appreciate.
Her boyfriend broke frame. Despite being good looking, charming, masculine and having his shit together, he went through job loss and started to go through a depression. He opened up to her and she started to do more and more power play moves in regards to calling the shots in the relationship. What I found interesting was that the more she gained control the less she started to respect him and challenge him.
I kept quiet and just watched the show.
Eventually, she pushed a bit too hard and he started to apply dread. It was with minor things, like spending less time with her and also liking this really hot girl that he has as a close friend. This caused Woman A to get super jealous and insecure. When she demanded that he stop, he called her shit out and told her that she needed a break.
Guys, if you ever wonder what happens from a woman's perspective here's how it played out.
We went out for drinks. I had ZERO intention of doing anything but was bored and had some time to kill.
We started to share stories and she would tell me about all the guys that she has hooked up with, other stories about how wild she was, and occasionally compare her bf with her alpha widow ex.
While she was on her rants about all the big D and the crazy sex sessions and coke fueled orgies, she'd be casually dropping hits about hooking up. Some were subtle like body languages and kino escalations. Others were more overt like telling me about how she enjoys anal and she's got a cute pussy.
I just kept drinking and smiling as I kept edging her on. She would go through a story, remember a guy she banged and then text him to see if he's free. This went on with various guys saying how they wish they could. Saw her reach out to her true Alpha and him play her off like a hooker looking for $100 loan. This made her even more turned on.
Two beers in, we decided to have a joint and relax in my car. At this point, I still had no interest in sleeping with her but I got a bit curious. I decided to escalate and was met with no resistance.
After proceeding to go through the bases in record time, I stopped with a wet 3rd base. She kept pushing for me to come over but I told her that I had shit to do and wished her luck on her adventures to get laid.
I have no doubt that if I wanted to I could've fucked her in every hole and done anything I wanted I have no doubt that she wouldn't have told her bf.
After that fiasco, I went home and didn't really engage in anything for almost a week. She gave me a run down the next time I saw her. She was an emotional wreck as her bf put radio silence . She played every trick in the book from bargaining, seducing, bribing, guilt, reaching out to his family, trying to make him jealous. If you can think it, she'd done it.
I'm not sure what happened but he's agreed to meet her for food but states that he'd like to keep things casual. My guess (hope) is that he demoted her to a plate from a LTR.
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PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
This. What the fuck is that title
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420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Do people like her ever just stop for a second and reflect about themselves? All the coke fueled orgies, manipulation, meaningless sex, desperation. Damn that's definitely going to rot someone's soul
voxiqs 5y ago
No, they hamster and justify every shitty decision. You just recognize and accept they are out there and cannot be reformed or changed
PM_me_youre_emotions 6y ago
Is'nt it AWALT or some shit like that.
thefisherman1961 6y ago
Her soul was already rotten from the daddy issues she had growing up. No woman with a red pilled father grows up to be like that
Your_Coke_Dealer 6y ago
Yes, and it's not pretty when it happens. Don't be with a woman at the time she looks at her soul in the mirror per se. But also, lots of women do crazy shit because they all have the capacity to (AWALT)
Trooper_1868 6y ago
After all of that, its still our fault :P
PreOrgasmGroanLness 6y ago
When is sex meaningful and when is it meaningless?
HS-Thompson 6y ago
I spent a couple years rotting my soul in this way, and though it's definitely something I needed to move on from it sure is fun while it lasts I have to say.
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RedPillHanSolo 6y ago
Does not compute. How come he never vetted "his" girl? She's a slut, quite literally.
[deleted] 6y ago
anyone else read this and think HIV?
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
You know what else spells with 3 letters?
F-U-N
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ex_addict_bro 6y ago
Hi guys I'm a big gaping vagina and I love to listen to women. Sometimes I do a post on TRP and masturbate reading comments. Come visit my other subreddit called r slash friendzoned_tampons.
0kool74 6y ago
And people keep asking me why I've never been married LOL :-) she is on her way to becoming one of those reformed Jesus sluts
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SirKolbath 6y ago
This. The whole read I was thinking, "Fuck, boyfriend dodged a bullet with this psycho. This isn't dread game, this is the goddamn Hunger Games."
Auvergnat 6y ago
Ahh the tired old "Game only works on women with low self-esteem!"
Inchado 6y ago
Dread game works with any girl, it just doesn't have the same ramifications with every one of them.
BleedingAnus1 6y ago
Don't forget the "High Quality Women".
yomo86 6y ago
He said scope of dread. Not no effect. And, quite frankly he is right. A high-quality women can easily get another comittment-ready Chad in no time. Female dread loses its luster the very same way. You, as a TRP man, would just call it drama and spin the wheel of plates again.
Kommanderdude 6y ago
What I learned is that OP is an emotional tampon orbiter to this chick. She most certainly would have told her bf about everything you did in a attempt to make make him jealous. Doubt you would have actually got pussy from her. You’re just her useful beta boy toy.
319Skew 6y ago
Shit. You got me. Nothing gets past you huh. Tell me something. Are you a detective? Because you have the potential and you are wasting your talents here. You could be big like Sherlock Homes big. Travelling all over the world solving mysterious cases. I'm curious about something though, how many women try to get BACK INTO a relationship by telling the boyfriend that another man was inside her while they were fighting ? I've never heard of that but I'm not a detective.
Poochysnooch 6y ago
You're not a detective.
You also didn't get the bang.
And also wasted time
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Don't let him bother you, it was an interesting story. Men who aren't getting any are always shocked at how easy it is to turn down sex when you know you can get laid anytime you want.
It's been my experience that guys who give you crap about passing on sex are usually incels. Those of us who know real abundance know that there are plenty of times the pussy just isn't worth the hassle.
Kommanderdude 6y ago
I know plenty of beta men who’s wife/gf cheated then turned it around and put the blame on him for the way he was acting and guilted then into continuing the relationship. Remember it doesn’t sound logical but women aren’t logical beings and this shit happens.
You clearly lack any real world experience with women.
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LiteraIIyJesus 6y ago
This sub exists to make you aware of your reality and the rules at play. It's up to you to give it a use.
SKRedPill 6y ago
To tell you the truth, contraception, porn, addictions and the like aren't part of our natural instincts. They're recent inventions. Many aspects of modern culture and lifestyle are simply not natural, that's why we're deteriorating. If you read Illimitable Man's essay on feeling depressed all the time, it's because fundamentally we need to evolve.
I am absolutely sure our ancestors could never get hooked on fleeting sexual relationships like we do today - because of survival. Men were meant to have high sex drives and impregnate many women because of the time and commitment it took to raise just one child that starts out totally helpless at birth where mortality was super high and life expectancy low. Women I'm sure couldn't ride the cock carousel anywhere near the way they do now.
Contraception and porn has turned sex into a degenerative addiction as our instincts are still the same in an age that they were totally not designed for. It made sex easy, but also cheap. Feminism has made commitment cheap. The net result is that relationships have become cheap.
dking168 6y ago
It's contraception in women that's the problem. If the big pharm had decided to make the pill for guys, it would a different world/story
319Skew 6y ago
I choose to find purpose through finding happiness from inside and through experience. Don't need a woman for that.
SKRedPill 6y ago
I thought long and hard about what I need from women as such. The list goes like this
1) Beauty & Sex - Yes, we need you for this first.
Now in the LTR / marriage context, by beauty I mean both sex as well as around the home. Artistry is definitely a plus. A man as such is ok with the essentials and is more bothered with his main mission. It is femininity that brings beauty to the house (although the side effects are clear when you shop). In our country, when we went bride hunting, they'd look at how artistic a girl was. And you cannot be artistically beautiful if you're lazy and a slob.
2) Receptivity - yes, an extension of the basic sexual principle to everything. Without it, we can't give and they can't receive. But I'm not talking about it in the context where betas / nice guys get sucked and dumped - that's just exploitation. It's very important for sex and the flow of love. 3) Respect - tell ya, nothing on this list will matter after a while if this ain't there. Not even sex. 4) Kids - feminine women love kids. However this is after the sexy part. 5) Sweetness - Being sweet and loving is not only very attractive, it will keep you beautiful long after you're old and wrinkled and your hair's grey. My grandmothers were like that. When they died, that's what we remember about them. 5) Love, Trust, Loyalty and Devotion - My mind's instincts are forever old school. I feel a woman should conquer with her feminine love - those girls get everything and more and are desired by their men. Overly bitchy 'alpha women' who actually have no alpha game in a feminine sense are just brutes. However, point #5 isn't just for sex, but it will matter in marriages and LTR. This keeps hypergamy from going out of control.
6) Submission - that's tied to receptivity. I'm not saying girls don't have all sorts of desires. But how can you even feel like giving if they keep trying to repel you?
7) How I am treated is more important than what you do in the name of choreplay. I see wives always complaining that their beta game never works -- the husband's turned off from giving because their 'alpha game' basically consists of being bitchy and disrespectful, and non-receptive as such.
Now about women's beta game.
8) Companionship - but do note that they can't be a substitute for male friends with shared interests. If you need someone to discuss soccer and Indy car with, find a male buddy. 9) Regarding housework - choreplay is your beta game, but do note that it means you do care and you're a good nurturer and you see this as your home. That part is important in a marriage or an LTR.
10) Supportive. Ok, that's again beta game, so it won't make turn me on by itself. But I'll be grateful.
A single man with his own drive and passion doesn't need a woman's beta game. These are things his parents, siblings, cousins, grown up children and male friends can also give him.
Your beta game doesn't make me aroused directly, but it's absence is very closely correlated to your lack of alpha game (by which I mean feminine attractive characteristics) and your value in a marriage or an LTR. If you're alpha game as a woman isn't there, your beta game isn't going to come either - that is different from men, who can bring in exclusive beta game to the table.
At the same time, your beta game won't matter a damn if your alpha game sucks (by which I mean if you're rude, condescending, arrogant and disrespectful, etc..etc..)
Beyond this, the traditional culture in my country also has another role that's related to growing spiritually and having the strength to deal with ups and downs (including death). But let's put that in another locker. But spirituality is something you can do on your own too. You don't need a woman for that.
SKRedPill 6y ago
My gut ain't interested in how much money they make or all that. That's purely economic / those are things you do for yourself.
Now as to what I explicitly don't need 1) Overly slim isn't healthy. Fat isn't either. Plus all the fat chicks are lazy slobs with terrible attitudes and hamsters to support it. I have never seen an exception, not even in my own family.
2) No, choreplay isn't sex game (what might turn me on is seeing some curves or lingerie as you bend), but it's absence and unwillingness means a whole number of other red flags.
3) I get totally turned off by women with drugs and alcohol and the like. They just deteriorate in every dimension. I had women with good habits in my family and their hair never turned grey till their 60s among other things. I've seen families ruined when women go down that line. A high value man doesn't entertain addictions, neither should he tolerate it in his woman.
4) Women riding the cock carousel for years lose the stability you need for family life. They get entangled too much and can't stop their hypergamy - in fact even alphas can't keep 'em. That's also another reason why I'm not fond of pump and dump. Our instincts came from a time before contraception and condoms and porn - so not all aspects of modern sexual culture are natural.
5) Way too much insecurity and extreme emotionality. Yes femininity by nature is waves, but when it goes rampant, we are talking BPD and what not here. Just stay far away from these. The Yin and Yang symbol has a dot of yin in the yang and a dot of yang in the yin (but not more). Rampant masculinity is ruthlessness and autistic, and rampant femininity is destructive madness.
Now it must be amply clear that men can in fact live without women and get all their other needs met (much to the outrage of feminist hamsters) on their own or with relatives or other men. And that list is huge, and very different to what women need men for.
Sir_Distic 6y ago
If a girl tells you "I have a cute pussy" guess what? Go ahead...guess.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
As he just published his "red pill example" on "how to friendzone like a boss", I think chances of him guessing that are close to negative.