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- Hide Preview | 396 Comments | submitted about a year ago by chuckthundercock [Post Locked]

Well, given the last 25 years of my career, it’s only a matter of time until the harpies start coming out to dissect my body and carve up the pieces.

I’ve deeply hugged, kissed on cheek, even kissed on lips colleagues or clients. Been with business associates to strip clubs, ktv in China, it was all part of the job in high finance.

This wasn’t something you couldn’t weaponize until this year. “I’ve always been a fuck it, do what I want sort of guy.” Well, I’m going to pay for that.

That worked in the old world, but in the new world, you will be convinced in the court of public opinion for any indiscretion or post drinks snafu by any woman whose hamster has decided she can use you to better her position. Briffaults law comes back to haunt us. Just when you think she threw you away, women in industry are going through their grab bag and digging out whatever they can to virtue signal and destroy careers or extort.

There are now even lawyers and PR firms that are advertising to leverage this and build a client base.

I’m just powerful and public enough that I’m a likely target. As this whole movement has escalated I was hopeful but my wife has basically told me I should start on an exit strategy now because I’m fucked.

Couple guys in my office have already gotten legal counsel and advice. In finance it’s a party hard with super high net worth clients and part of my duties have involved circumstances with colleagues that could be in the wolf of Wall Street.

The mrs is already looking at places for us to relocate too where you can still be a man. Note: not the United States or Europe.

I’m fortunate enough that the Mrs is RP enough and ride or die enough to help plan my damage control and inevitable exit. I think the 50 or 60 cases you are seeing in the news will end up being in the thousands. I know some of these headline holders and have watched women throw themselves at them. Women have open season to craft whatever narrative they want now though.

My advice is, if your still young, unimportant, and new to the sub, Avoid working with women period. If you can’t afford to, stay isolated and vigilant. Stick to hookers and sugar babies, as I can predict this creeping further beyond industry but dating as well.

I’m not a huge fan of mgtow but if there is a version of mgtow that includes whores and sugar babies, I’d advocate for that.

Always appreciate any advice for others who are in the same situation and looking over your shoulders.

[-] wayneinthegame 293 Points about a year ago

You are viewing the situation like masculinity is a stock that is crashing and you need to SELL!

Don't run on the bank yet, we need cool dudes to hold their position. The whole world hasnt gone mad, the media only portrays it that way.

Being a man is living your truth. Don't sell it out of fear.

[-] empatheticapathetic 80 Points about a year ago

Lol yeah OP take the risk and stay because you're a MAN.

[-] BonelessSkinless 60 Points about a year ago

Smart to have an exit strategy... stay until you feel the axe at your neck and RUN

[-] Fryguy48 16 Points about a year ago

Pre-emptive maneuvers are a safe bet.

[-] p3n1x 1 Point about a year ago

"Safe bets" don't always hold up in the long game. One can only run and hide for so long.

[-] Fryguy48 0 Points about a year ago

Then we are all fucked already.

[-] max_peenor 44 Points about a year ago

It's going to burn. The Enlightenment is over and the consequence is unavoidable--the end of a civil order that overtook the world and created skyscrapers and iPhones. You can't hold the line when the ground beneath you is giving way. I can only speculate what will replace the old order, which does us little good. Build yourself and be ready. Truth be told, most of us will be old or dead when the new order takes form. So.... enjoy the decline.

[-] unpluggedoasis 13 Points about a year ago

WW3 - no countries involved. It will be a mass civil war within western nations. Nationalists vs. Globalists, traditionalists vs. regressives (they call themselves progressive) etc.

I am convinced it is unavoidable now.

[-] Wraithwain 4 Points about a year ago

The way things are going, I sometimes begin to think the conspiracy subreddit might actually be on to something, underneath all that paranoia.

[-] COORDOORS 1 Point about a year ago

"paranoia". wake up and smell the ashes, bitch nigga. the world is fucked and has been fucked!

[-] Buncha_Cunts 3 Points about a year ago

I feel selfish sometimes for having a child whose soul will inevitably be crushed by the weight of this world.

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[-] Alathon 12 Points about a year ago

Amusingly, such a decline does promise an end to this budding era of accusations for profit and glory. These accusation-games are utterly dependent on the willingness of the targets to engage with the accusers strictly through lawful channels. To spend money on lawyers, publicists, to make statements to media outlets.

At some point, some bright spark is going to come to the conclusion that, "my life is ruined, everything I worked for is dust... so I'll murder those who ruined it and commit suicide by cop". The murder of accusers, lawyers, and whoever else, and the follow-up execution at the hands of a twitchy LEO, will be broadcast on all the channels. There will be all manner of boo-hoo-hooing over it and then there will be copycats. Society will be less peaceful, less lawful, less trusting.

Which it is already doing for many reasons. As rule of law fails, it will become increasingly practical for the wealthy and powerful, such as the OP alleges himself to be, to make like the Clintons and lead a life full of fortunate accidents and suicides. This will of course go far beyond allegations of sexual misconduct, spreading to all types of conflict. Law officers, beleaguered in leftist population centers, will mutter "twenty and done", keep their eyes down and mouths shut.

Now is a fine time for one to make some bank, so as to have the option of providing for ones safety and security in the decades to come.

[-] Dmva100 3 Points about a year ago

True many women would think twice if the town bike lied about rape, bragged about it over drinks on Friday, and then got her neck snapped by some angry dudes father or even angry GF/wife.

Hell even that guy in Ohio tried to shoot a judge who fucked his kids life up over a rape charge.

[-] nikosteamer 2 Points about a year ago

Tbh if shit goes down as bad as you say it will -you can just take it at the time enjoy the good life now

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point about a year ago

Violence is looking like it may be the only answer at this point. Men who have their lives ruined in this fashion should find the accusers and go cartel on their bitch asses. A few Colombian neckties and severed heads on stakes later and these cunts will twice about doing this shit when it could actually have deadly consequences for them and their families.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

"The Enlightenment is over..."

Damn that is deep, but I have to agree that it really is over. And women killed it.

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[-] Marsupian 18 Points about a year ago

The stakes are pretty fucking high at the moment. If you are a traditional masculine man in a top function you either need to play it hard or stop working with women.

I'm talking cameras, recording every movement, leverage on everyone, machiavellian like social manipulation, exit strategies, etc.

When some random office chick decides to create a fancy story to rake in some cash you need cold hard evidence that you weren't at that location at that time, have audio/video/witness evidence of all your interactions, have her friends, her boss, your boss, hr and her mom in your pocket and manage your reputation like there is a fucking PR firm on that shit. Even then you are one viral social media post away from eating shit.

I'd encourage any man in that position to go for it but if you do you have to be all in and be proactively managing the risk.

[-] An_All-Beef_Engineer 6 Points about a year ago

cold hard evidence that you weren't at that location at that time, have audio/video/witness evidence of all your interactions

How the FUCK are you going to keep a record of where you were AT ALL TIMES, 25 YEARS AGO? This is insane...

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[-] [deleted] 15 Points about a year ago

Exactly. Op seems like he's tucking tail and running out the back door because he might get pinned for harassment? Gtfo of here.

This is exactly buying into the fear and manipulation the mainstream is pressing down everyone's throat. Be a fucking man and stop giving a fuck about the opinions of shit women and fagget beta men. Which, btw is the majority of the population.

Sure, be aware of the risk, but by God, don't come to trp, pretend to be in control of your life, then run away like a fucking bitch at the first sign of possible defamation to the perception of your character.

Shaming tactics are for beta men to continue behaving the way they should. Real men do, think and feel the way they want to. Lead by example and fuck society and its warn out, fear mongering, half cocked opinions.

This is societies 2017 shit test. And women only shit test men who display a lack of congruence in who they say they are vs how they behave. Society only shit tests men who are acting like alphas but are extremely beta in reality.

[-] BokehClasses 4 Points about a year ago

don't come to trp, pretend to be in control of your life

I almost envy your naivete. Ah, it must be nice to think you are in control. How many men do you think thought like you and still got fucked?

Looks like you are someone that needs to learn the hard way, but I hope for your sake you end up waking up to reality before it's too late. There is only so much you can do to be in control, but at the end of the day you are at the mercy of society.

Shaming tactics are for beta men to continue behaving the way they should. Real men do, think and feel the way they want to. Lead by example and fuck society and its warn out, fear mongering, half cocked opinions.

And now you yourself use those shaming tactics to get us to man up? Well, ok. Fair enough. But remember that shaming only works when there is the is the infrastructure in society for it. Shaming men into being alphas doesn't work effectively anymore.

Is being a "real man" is worth it when you end up losing your job or getting sent to prison? At least you ended up holding frame and being an alpha bro?

This is societies 2017 shit test.

That's very naive. How can you deny that there is a legitimate targeting and threatening of masculinity. It's moved beyond the point of just being a shit test, your very life is on the line now. You need to blend into the background if you want to survive as a man. And yes, that involves knowing when to control your alpha side and not show it off.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

First, I'm not shaming anyone. I want each individual to think for himself and make his own mind up.

I want men to realize that this entire charade is due to men following suit. It is beta conformity that has allowed it to grow into a fucking epidemic.

Yes, it is a trying time, but to begin the battle with a defeatist attitude is exactly how you remain a trampled on beta fag.

Nieve? Sure. Certainly. Of course. If I found myself under the microscope I would be writing a different comment. But, I'm not. So many men aren't being targeted. These are the men who make up the bulk of the popular opinion. The opinion that will dictate where our future resides.

This shit test is exactly like any other. Our forefathers fought tyranny with guns and grenades. Have we become so emasculated we can't even stand up to sjws and beta fags in the face of unpopular opinion?

It is a slippery fucking slope we're on and perspectives like yours are exactly the ones which allow a complete overthrow of rational society.

Grow a pair, risk your reputation and do something about it instead running, hiding and complaining.

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[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

Society only shit tests men who are acting like alphas but are extremely beta in reality.

This is wrong. Women Shit Test Alphas all the time. Society is constantly testing all men at all times.

[-] BokehClasses 11 Points about a year ago

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This society cannot be saved. In fact, this sub is proof of this claim. If this sub really wanted to save society, they would be working towards re-implementing patriarchy and taking away female privileges. But this sub doesn't care about that (rightly so, because it's a lost cause). This sub advocates for living a degenerate lifestyle, with the chase of pussy and other forms of casual relationships.

How does this degenerate lifestyle help society? The answer is, it doesn't. In fact, it helps destroy society even faster. So please, stop pretending that this sub actually cares about the long term future. Most men have basically realized that we are fucked, and the best path in life is to pursue our own self interests while society is collapsing.

We men are losing, and we are losing fast and hard. No point fighting and dying for a lost cause. Let it all burn down and let the new men build something new and better.

[-] johngalt1234 2 Points about a year ago

That involves holding women accountable and showing no mercy to the wicked among them.

[-] gELSK 6 Points about a year ago

// , I wonder if the Jews had similar conversations with themselves in Weimar Germany.

[-] BluepillProfessor 2 Points about a year ago

Sure except ALL women were not clamoring to destroy the Jews in Weimar Germany. Neither was the great weight of society trying to destroy Judaism at that time.

Today's society vis-a-vis men is well past the point of the Weimar Jews. Today men have already lost power. We are already (metaphorically) in the streets cleaning up broken glass. The Night of the Long Knives was Bill Cosby.

This is Kristallnacht not Weimar Germany and it is already way too late.

The cattle cars are already requisitioned, the plans for the death chambers are already drawn up, and the Zyklon B is on order.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , You are correct about it not being Weimar germany. I looked it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jews_in_Weimar_Germany

But do you propose that men will be hauled off in boxcars, or some human rights violation equivalent, in the near future?

[-] BluepillProfessor 3 Points about a year ago

I believe it is inevitable unless the adults take back control of this culture. Men are already forced into involuntary servitude by family court orders and there is barely a peep raised. What would it take to force the adults to take action? Boxcars? Mass murder? Maybe. Stay tuned.

[-] vengefully_yours 1 Point about a year ago

If they hadn't invaded everyone around them starting in 39, and instead had done what they wanted within their own country, they would have eradicated everyone they disliked. That is what we face here, not exporting it via force, but by subversion. What you do in your own country isn't going to cause a stir, unless there is oil there, and if it's within the US, who in their right mind would ever get involved? Better to let it implode and break apart than to invade and go all WWIII.

People learned from Hitler, this way takes longer but chances are you don't get hanged our have to shoot yourself when the enemy army arrives, because they don't bother coming in.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

I agree with the last line. The Home Guard Feminists destroy the culture so horribly the invading armies and hordes of barbarians are stopped at the border. Not by any patrol or police or army but by virtue of the fact the armies look ahead and see the wasteland and the violent cesspool that remains of a once great civilization.

The fierce armies make it to the border, look across...and they say...Nope. We are going home.

This type of destructive behavior is common among womenthink. Once I read a feminist tract advising women to shit and piss themselves when confronted by a rapist.

today we see feminists using the same anti-rape strategy to deter aggressors. Just shit all over the culture and create a fetid mess that nobody wants to fuck with.

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[-] juliman17 4 Points about a year ago

Good fucking point.

If the real men left start running away. Then they win. No more opposition= free access to destroy what´s left of society.

Unfortunately there will be casualties. But if it wasn´t for people like James Damore, what would be left of this fucking world.

We don´t know OP´s position exactly but if we all just chickened out. Then we are just a bunch of betas that for defending our personal interests we give a shit about the big picture.

Must be a hell of a tough choice though, when defending our personal interests means trying not to get crucified in every single goddamn aspect of our fucking lives.

[-] wayneinthegame 1 Point about a year ago

Well, since you mentioned the word crucified it might be apt to point out the kind of persecution that Jesus suffered without backing down. I don't believe in his literal divinity but that makes his strength of frame that much stronger.

Being a man is more than just scoring mad bitches.

[-] juliman17 3 Points about a year ago

Exactly. Most of us came across TRP in a search for guidance towards the opposite sex. But most of us stayed for the bigger picture, the self-improvement and the forging of one´s path and all the responsabilities that come along.

I think defending our interests as men and trying to make a better place for our children ranks above any plate spinning.

But all in all, it´s a matter of circumstances. I like to think about it as a Maslow pyramid. As you go fullfilling the hierarchy basics, your weighing of different subjects changes

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point about a year ago

If they chase the successful Western Men away the Muslims will take their place, and if a woman make a sexual harassment claim against one of the Muslim men she will be stoned to death for adultery regardless of the validity of the claim. They made their bed, they can lie in it.

[-] El_Ejcovero 2 Points about a year ago

The media is only panicking because their "men" turned out to be pedophiles and "abusers." So I agree there is no need for any of us to panic, especially because their "men" weren't even remotely masculine to begin with.

[-] 42-AX 1 Point about a year ago

If the masculine stock is crashing then BUY BUY BUY

[-] SlightlyCyborg 4 Points about a year ago

Sell your bitcoin and buy into masculinity.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , Buying bitcoin IS buying into masculinity. It's femstribution-proof money.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 1 Point about a year ago

Shortsell masculinity and ramp up the market for soy products. You'll both fuck bitches and get money

[-] deadassfinna 98 Points about a year ago

What about recording audio on your phone each time you encounter or sleep with a women so you have proof of consent etc. Thats what Gabble Tootsie did

[-] [deleted] 88 Points about a year ago

you can look around online... there are all sorts of disguised security cams. i have one over my bed and another in my living room that's a fake smoke detector. download every single sex session.

if any girl ever tried to pull shit, i'd come back swinging hard. defamation lawsuits, and post her shit on the internet. when women start getting wrecked for lying, they'll stop.

[-] allrandomworldnews 71 Points about a year ago

If you post it on the net she can definitly find a way to fuck you up. Dont do that. Just show it in court infront of her friends and family.

Esit: bonus point for dragging the process out as far as possible and suing her for your costs. Thus ruining a liars life.

[-] DrankOfSmell 19 Points about a year ago

That definently doesn't sound legal. Posting the footage anywhere when the participant wasn't aware they were being recorded.

[-] [deleted] 12 Points about a year ago

only audio recording is illegal without the consent of all parties and even then that's only in some states.

and what's she going to do, testify that she commit perjury and filed false police reports by admitting it's her? it's like going to the cops to claim someone stole your cocaine.

[-] lookdeepintomyeyes 35 Points about a year ago

Better a wiretapping charge than a rape charge.

[-] [deleted] 10 Points about a year ago

I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure you could get slapped with both since the recording might get thrown out since it was obtained illegally

[-] TomHicks 1 Point about a year ago

Can exculpatory evidence ever be thrown out?

[-] BluepillProfessor 7 Points about a year ago

If you put signs in your house "By entering these premises you consent to being recorded" then this should protect you from any criminal charge.

[-] Phunkyave 6 Points about a year ago

Can’t see how that would have any drawbacks.

[-] LeftHookTKD 1 Point about a year ago

Does it have to be on the door or can it be anywhere on the house?

[-] underrainow 7 Points about a year ago

Crap. Well if anyone lives in California, it is a two-person consent state. An illegal recording without the consent of all parties results in Punishments for Violating Penal Code 631.

"Wiretapping is a “wobbler” crime; meaning that it may be charged either as a misdemeanor or a felony. Misdemeanor violations are punishable by a maximum fine of $2,500, or imprisonment in the county jail for up to 364 days, or both"

So possibly up to one year in a county jail.

Crap... Still better than a rape charge though.

[-] DrankOfSmell 3 Points about a year ago

Can't argue that. Just want to clarify that it was the posting I was concerned about, not the recording itself but I don't have enough legal knowledge to say anything

[-] FTFSM 3 Points about a year ago

Well if anyone lives in California, it is a two-person consent state. An illegal recording without the consent of all parties results in Punishments for Violating Penal Code 631.

Not a lawyer and could be wrong, but from my understanding, this does not apply to private residences. If you happen to have a security camera in your house for security reasons and it catches something that exonerates you, I believe that is legal.

[-] underrainow 1 Point about a year ago

I wish... but this includes private conversations as well.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

didn't the girl who secretly recorded Mel Gibson using the "N" word get in legal trouble?

[-] MisterMarbles1988 1 Point about a year ago

Wasn't Harvey Weinstein recorded without his knowledge in California? Unless they were in a different state.

[-] Marsupian 50 Points about a year ago

In a he said, she said situation you are fucked. Either you are always recording or you can get fucked.

[-] Omnibrad 16 Points about a year ago

Make sure your country/state laws allow audio recordings in court. Some are inadmissible without consent of being recorded by both parties.

I have seen paternity tests, DNA evidence, prenups, and all sorts of other stuff get thrown out of a court.

Point is you can still get fucked with a recording, though not to detract from the value of a recording in general.

[-] deadassfinna 7 Points about a year ago

My country you can if you are involved in the conversation in the recording. But yea you may have to do what telemarketers do and state before being alone with her "this interaction is recorded for legal purposes" lol "Do you consent to sex?" "Yea" "Sorry I need a clear YES" "YES!" Sex is going to be treated like sales calls in the future haha

[-] Entropy-7 2 Points about a year ago

"This sexual interaction is being recorded for quality control purposes."

[-] OneRedYear 1 Point about a year ago

You're only fucked in the court of public opinion if you admit guilt. How do you admit guilt? Apologizing. Explaining. Defending. Rationalizing. The only winning move is to DENY DENY DENY. unless they have proof then you can't lose by denying it. So far it's worked for Donald Trump. Roy Moore. George Takai and Russell Simmons, Ryan Seacrest and a few others.

Everyone who fought the he said she said war with an apology got their asses handed to them. It was not super effective.

[-] [deleted] 0 Points about a year ago

Its the modern prenup. A lot of recordings now need the other party consent because of that reason they get thrown out in court.

[-] SolomonPierce 24 Points about a year ago

And Dennis Reynolds. He's a 5 star man!

[-] MattyAnon 9 Points about a year ago

This won't solve everything - she can say "that was a different event"

[-] Purplefilth22 3 Points about a year ago

Thats why you don't just play your video tape card right out in front. You get her to explain the details of the encounter. The time, what both parties were wearing, how the encounter went down before the "act". People tend to sprinkle truth into their lies. The video tape isn't the end all be all its too help discredit her.

[-] MattyAnon 1 Point about a year ago

If this is legally viable, then yes. You'll likely find the law courts will let her change her mind. "Oh wait..... no..... THAT was another night.... I err..... can't remember the details of the night I am talking about.... because I was blackout drunk".

[-] Purplefilth22 1 Point about a year ago

Then any lawyer worth their salt rebuttals with "if you, by your own definition, were heavily intoxicated. How can you know that the rape took place? did you call the police in the morning or when you sobered up? did you go to a hospital to have a rape kit administered?" Then he follows up with any recorded texts/conversations between the two at the time or testimonies from witnesses from the night she claims the event took place/the morning after.

A buddy of mine faced rape charges in college. He got off because the girls roommate came home at the time and had a conversation with her before she left so they could use their dorm. Her testimony alone was enough to discredit his accuser. The fact that they went out for breakfast together the morning after was just the cherry ontop. What rapist/rape victim go get bacon and eggs after a traumatic incident? An actual recording from the event would be more than enough to sway any judge/jury with a brain stem.

[-] Dmva100 9 Points about a year ago

All women lie about sexual assault unless due process reveals otherwise

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[-] jackandjill22 7 Points about a year ago

Women are tricky dude. If you've ever seriously interacted with girls you know how they finesse & attempt to con you into a situation in which you can unknowingly, be seriously Fucked.

[-] allrandomworldnews 4 Points about a year ago

Put video surveillance in your house and always take them back to your place. If needed put a sign in your yard/ on your front door or whatever. Record on nas and upload encounters to a second location. Cloud or fileserver so you cant get wrecked by cops taking your pc or failing harddrives.

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[-] coco5440 1 Point about a year ago

That's illegal in two party consent states.

[-] Buncha_Cunts 1 Point about a year ago

Just make sure you're in a state that allows you to record conversations with only one party's consent. Some require both parties to be aware of the recording. So just let any prospective sexual partners know you'll be recording the interaction for quality assurance and training purposes.

[-] EPArt 53 Points about a year ago

I have never understood this shit of late is their no option to say fuck off or rather not deny or confirm just say nothing and completely stone wall it. All I ever see are admissions and apologizes that aren't even accepted. Being apologetic and scared just makes people seem guilty like they know they have done wrong. Whats it called holding frame??

[-] [deleted] 14 Points about a year ago

I'm with you.

Besides getting canned and being prevented from holding high positions in your industry, what can the witch hunt really produce?

By definiton, an alpha man shouldn't necessarily give a shit what the main stream thinks of him. He'll have those who love him and know him, in his inner circle and that is fine.

I do suppose if my entire career and success hinged on hr departments and public perception, I'd be singing a different tune.

[-] BluepillProfessor 2 Points about a year ago

Besides getting canned and being prevented from holding high positions in your industry, what can the witch hunt really produce?

A job is a man's life. So what can they do besides destroy your life? This is a ridiculous argument.

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[-] WhoWasBlowjob 0 Points about a year ago

Man you spew fuckin nonsense all over this thread.

[-] gELSK 45 Points about a year ago

// , I understand you have to take this much more seriously, since you are "lightning rod" men, or at least in their environs.

It's worth taking the example of our "canaries in the coal mine" seriously, and thanks for the warning.

Edit: Why do so many of the other comments call this post an exaggeration without any evidence?

Hint: "It's not that bad" doesn't add to the discussion. This post has discussed actual experiences by OP. At least give him the same level of respect he gave you. You're not consumers of entertainment or education offering a product review, you're part of a goddamn discussion that is important. Imagine that, for posts like this, the word "comment" on this page is replaced with the word "answer". Gives it a bit of a different feel.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

I guess the burden of proof is on OP and not on the people commenting. Although there couldn't be enough warnings not to mess around at the workplace, this post still seems like an exaggeration.

Yes, women have always been using men to advance in their careers, it's a perfectly valid point, but I don't see how it justifies mgtow with sugar babies or similar way of thinking.

If things are really that bad no amount of mgtow will help, wyman with a layer will come and screw you even if you dindu nuffin. But apparently things really aren't so bad and if you simply follow general trp guidelines and don't shit where you eat you'll be fine.

[-] chuckthundercock 11 Points about a year ago

Women are coming forward with 20 year old inappropriate hugs. How do you defend against that?

[-] OneRedYear 3 Points about a year ago

DENY. Everyone who denies survives. Everyone who apologizes loses the shit fight.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , To this game there are rules.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

With a firm handshake! Think Trump

Depends on the context really.

Are things really that bad in your industry that a hug can get you in trouble?

[-] gELSK 4 Points about a year ago

// , In a word, YES. Yes they are.

Also, despite the constant complaints about the "target audience" consisting of self-righteous neckbeards, consider that the controversial, unique aspects* of a forum like this mean it has a higher than usual sprinkling of well functioning men with something to lose.

*meaning there's not really anyone else you can talk to about this, even psychotherapists

[-] [deleted] -1 Point about a year ago

Can you provide some verifiable examples? Forgive me my lack of faith, I sympathize deeply with you and other men if it's true, but it's difficult to believe that a simple hug initiated by a girl can get you fired or sued. If you initiate, it's way easier to believe that she can use it later to her advance, but it's also easier to refrain from hugging random girls at work.

[-] chuckthundercock 4 Points about a year ago

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-al-franken-accuser-lindsay-menz-public-story/story?id=51320842

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

Okay. You're right. I missed the story since I'm not in the US and it doesn't make headlines. So the US is probably fucked up. Means we're next. Sad.

Also interesting that all the recents "rapists" from Weinstein to Franken are liberal cucks with no exception. Always been wondering why.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , First off, "a simple hug" or even being within 1km of the accused is not a necessary condition for making a false accusation. Refraining from "hugging random girls at work" will protect you and me for now. We aren't as valuable or vulnerable targets, yet. But consider why Pence keeps the door open for meetings involving women.

I'm tempted to just link back to the examples on this forum of people getting canned for asking a girl, literally, "Would you like to go out for coffee sometime" at work. No indication of sexual interest. Search for the following two search terms on the forum, "allegations", and "sexual misconduct".

Last month, we had a report of an Uber driver who recorded his interactions with an attorney general who tried to get him fired for sexual assault or sexualized misconduct. Luckily, it backfired on her, since he had recorded the whole thing.

Consider how old the Al Franken thing is.

As far as verification, you could PM the authors to send time destructing pictures of emails or documents alleging stuff.

As for me, in response to a blithe implication of mis-operation from a woman, I dressed her down in a meeting, once, for failing to meet a test specification that she had agreed to, which lead to some of the longest downtime for our software service in years.

Immediate emotional reaction and reports to HR for my harsh, though entirely professional and polite language.

This lead to some interesting decisions by others about my career.

I then, two months later, received an even harsher dressing down IN PUBLIC in front of all of my co-workers for a bone-headed mistake of mine which caused no downtime, and no one gave a shit.

Also, you might not think this is transferable, but TMZ saved a video reel of a dog in water for 'A Dog's Purpose' for YEARS, edited it to not show the men leaping into the water to save the dog, and trotted it out as animal abuse years later once production had finished.

Consider how old the Trump trailer conversation was before they released it.

Finally, I ask you to consider this scientifically. Why is your standard of evidence so high for the hypothesis "Women now have the ability to dredge up 10-year old, unverifiable sexual misconduct or sexualized language as a way to discredit or apply legal pressure to men.", but not for the null hypothesis, "Women do not now have the ability to dredge up 10-year old, unverifiable sexual misconduct or sexualized language as a way to discredit or apply legal pressure to men."?

Why do you not provide examples of failed attempts at accusations to support this null hypothesis? As for me, I don't need multiple verifiable examples, just one case of "he touched me inappropriately 10 years ago" not being taken seriously enough to cause lasting damage to a man.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

It turns out that we actually agree on pretty much everything. Sorry for what you've been through, can relate (sorta).

The story about A Dog's Purpose is pure gold, thanks, saved.

[-] Entropy-7 2 Points about a year ago

When I was an attorney I had three professional misconduct allegations over 4 years, all from women: one opposing counsel and two clients on the other side. Nothing sexual but I was accused of being "intimidating" when I was just doing my job: advocating for my client. The complaints went through the process but as soon as they landed in front of a male in the administration, they were promptly thrown out. In one case I got a slap on the wrist.

AFAIK, there is no statute of limitations on this and you get the "me too" types who come out of the woodwork years after the fact when one accusation comes forward in the present.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Interesting that you got the "intimidating" line.

At one particularly high status position I held, I actually had 3 women invite me to a meeting which turned into a kind of "body language intervention".

I called them out on how pointless it was, and described how they ought to be ashamed of their attention to such petty nonsense rather than my actual performance, or, for that matter, their own.

If they could not handle confident body language, good posture, and eye contact, especially when it resulted in no actual inconvenience to them, I would happily spare them the torment of my presence.

[-] Entropy-7 2 Points about a year ago

I suppose if you want to be a good divorce attorney you have to be "intimidating" to a certain extent. You need to bend the other lawyer and their client to your will to get what is right for your client.

I spent a decade in the military and left as a sergeant before going to law school. I sported a shaved head and goatee, so maybe ya, a bit of intimidation going on there when dealing with civies.

It worked to my advantage at least once. Had a female client who had two kids with a full patch Hell's Angel. His drug money had two top lawyers on retainer and there was suspicion of witness bribes but the one thing they could not do was intimidate me.

They were smart enough to know they couldn't go after the lawyer, and they also clued into the fact that my friends had more and bigger guns than their friends.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

it's difficult to believe that a simple hug initiated by a girl can get you fired or sued.

If the girl complains? Are you serious? Are you conscious?

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , They're *sniff* so brave.

"Becky, you're amazing, don't let anyone make you think otherwise."

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[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

I guess the burden of proof

You guess? I don't buy it.

This idea that the peanut gallery is not responsible for contributing to the discussion reflects the entitled "consumer" mindset, that treats these comments as some kind of "product rating", rather than points and counter-points in their own right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias isn't necessarily bad, and TRP's version of it is sidebar bias.

But the OP is not proposing anything controversial, merely another example of evidence for what we already know, in a case where the stakes are high and the motives more suspect.

He's the miner further down in the mine, closer to the dead canaries. I've been in that kind of situation, where I know I'll be the "first to get hit", and it's unnerving when people further up in the mine take this blithe attitude of yours to the dead yellow little fuckers.

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[-] ianpac 44 Points about a year ago

You sound overly paranoid. Just change company and relocate to another city and keep your nose clean and you will be OK. If you are valuable to the company then they will not want to lose you. If an accusation does crop up fight against it fiercely, dont do an Al Franken and appease the accuser then regret it later when your appeasement is taken as a guilty plea.

[-] MattyAnon 67 Points about a year ago

If you are valuable to the company then they will not want to lose you.

99.9% of companies will throw the man under the bus at the first complaint from a woman.

Once you're fired.... what you gonna do.... sue the poor delicate single mother victim?

[-] Taipanshimshon 16 Points about a year ago

The bottom line is it’s still about money. No individual money maker is going to over ride the potential financial loss of bad press.

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[-] Blitz_KingX 6 Points about a year ago

Its really messed up i worked at one of the biggest telicomication companys in america. And i was beeing sexualy harassed by this gay guy like every day. It even got to the point where he was sending me dick pics and other explative pictures. I took this to HR more then once as well. Every time they wpuld just blow it off maybe more his desk or something minor. It never stoped got to the point i couldnt take it any more and quit. That is unfortunate too beacause that was the best job ove ever had.

But if it was a woman in that situation like law suits would happen people would loose there livelihood. The double standards in this country is getting ridiculous. The media wont stop tell we are emasculated drones for woman to control and actually be second rate citizens that thwy are fighting for.

[-] MattyAnon 47 Points about a year ago

and actually be second rate citizens that thwy are fighting for

We ARE second rate citizens.

In any conflict between a woman and a man, the woman is presumed innocent and the man guilty.

Pay for sex? Man guilty.

Sell sex? Man guilty.

Two people are drunk and have sex? Man guilty.

Man can't get a job? Loser.

Women can't get a job? Discrimination.

Women do worse on IQ tests? Change the tests.

Women do worse in school? Change the tests.

We pay more tax. Women receive more benefits. Women complain about nothing and everyone cares. Men complain about male suicide and higher workplace death rate and noone gives a fuck.

You can have an awesome life as a man, you really can. But never ever for one second think you owe women anything.

[-] gaki123 7 Points about a year ago

This. This may seem edgy but for the average man a woman is an enemy.

[-] Blitz_KingX 1 Point about a year ago

Not to mention i custody hearing it is all mozr impossable for a man to get the children, even if the woman is a drug addict or what night.

And yes im verry cinical especally after watch my mother throw my father in jail for 20 years. So its hard to see the light if ya know what im sayinf.

[-] [deleted] 11 Points about a year ago

Here's a suggestion.

Next time that happens, go buy gloves, a belaclava and a baseball bat. Meet the fucker in the parking lot and make it clear there isn't to be any more tomfoolery.

He didn't stop harassing you because you're a pussy and he didn't respect you. Hr didn't have your back because of the same reason.

So, be a man and push people in the direction YOU WANT THEM TO GO. Either that, or they'll push you.

[-] chuckthundercock 0 Points about a year ago

You think Bill Clinton or Roy Moore could do this? You are playing in the minors. Your strategy is for thugs and plebians.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

I think the dude who I wrote that for is a quiet beta who not many people pay attention to. He gets pushed around by people because of it. Someone like him should go fucking rogue and boot fuck some piece of shit who is trying to fuck him.

Of course anyone on any kind of stage shouldn't do anything like that.

[-] heyyyyitsjimmybaby 7 Points about a year ago

I mean, you could have sued after all they did was move his desk. The whole point of HR isn't to punish, its to avoid a lawsuit. If they aren't avoiding a law suit... that means you can sue lol

Even with these baseless women complaints, an HR isn't going to recommend dismissal if there is no proof.

[-] Blitz_KingX 1 Point about a year ago

I had and presented proof of harassment. I really ahould have sued, but at that time i felt helpless and super depressed.

[-] EPArt 3 Points about a year ago

If you still have anyway of findin the evidence sue em tell em you will sell the story to news outlets latch on to the me too bullshit.

[-] Blitz_KingX 2 Points about a year ago

Shit man i still have all the messages he sent me on measager. How would you proceed?

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[-] Blitz_KingX 1 Point about a year ago

Hey man its easy to sit on the side lines and judge.

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[-] robot_overloard 1 Point about a year ago

. . . ¿ would of ? . . .

I THINK YOU MEANT would have

^^I ^^AM ^^A ^^BOT^^^beep^boop!

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

Then publicly defend your position. Reach everyone's ears and spill your refined, direct and logical message to them.

I can't stand this defeatist back pedalling. Sure, you'll lose when a crying whore posts a FB video about how dirty your cock was when you slapped her with it, but what ever happened to standing your ground and defending your reputation?

Every time I see some high profile, fuck up beta apologize, I vomit. If only the prick had the stones to defend himself. Not a God Damn man among them.

[-] Original_Dankster 17 Points about a year ago

Not paranoid, prudent. OP knows his past behavior, you don't. If he's affluent, powerful and public, it's very wise to prepare an exit strategy and put himself in a legal jurisdiction that isn't in a white knighting crusade

[-] CrazedHyperion 5 Points about a year ago

Everybody already should have a Plan B and a sketched out Plan C for all important things in life.

[-] max_peenor 15 Points about a year ago

Just change company and relocate to another city

See, in the tech industry we already have this figured out. That's what men do: solve problems. You just need the balls to implement the solution:

1- Join a small team or company and help build it.

2- Act like a man. (Note that women usually act more like women in these places too.)

3- Wait until the company grows to the point that it is either bought out or grows large enough that your stock is worth something.

4- Wait for the newly powerful HR department to throw a fit over something... and cash the fuck out.

5- Go to step 1.

The best part is the company will pay for you being the problem, because it is a) cheaper and b) they will do the same thing as you eventually. At one company I had to "fire" (read: retired because their sold everything) three guys at one company once because of a party that went bad. The VP of HR that made this all happen straight up accosted me for sex when the company was only 100 people. When I joined the company she pulled a chair up to mine and stroked my leg while reading off sheet of all the benefits. Uh huh. Right there with us, right toots? Let us not forget that Marisa Mayer is now rich and famous because she spread her legs for a founder. Smart women play the game because they are smart and want to win

The goal of this game is to make money working for small, fast, bullshitless companies until they become part of giant SJW clustersfucks, and then leave. The giant SJW clustersfucks are perfectly happy to fund and then buy these smaller companies, because they know it's the most efficient way to fund innovation and product.

You need the balls to know when to move. You need to understand that you don't have to get rich on one big hit--the money will build up over time. You need to be willing to work hard when needed, but the upside is smaller companies will play hard too. Rinse and repeat.

Now, of course, when the blue haired slags realize some men (and women) are getting away with this shit, they will try to move in and stop it. The problem with this is when you make everyone a criminal, people stop caring about the law. It's fine and dandy when you hang a few men for their behavior but when you actively seek to make every man one, what the hell do you think is going to happen?

[-] purplecabbage 4 Points about a year ago

Good write up. I was reading about this theory somewhere but I can't recall. It had to do with the innovators and bullshit-less business builders basically founding companies, letting them grow, and when the bureaucracy gets to a tipping point, the talent leaves to move onto the next project.

[-] hammerhearth 2 Points about a year ago
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[-] [deleted] 9 Points about a year ago

Al Franken, the democratic party's ritual male sacrifice lol.. Just picturing all the democrats around a sacrificial table like it's an ancient aztec civilization.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

Do you think they drew straws?

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

If you are valuable to the company then they will not want to lose you.

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!

[-] coco5440 35 Points about a year ago

Good god -- things aren't that bad -- all you had to do was not screw around at work -- this rule isn't new.

Its nice having women around the office. My office just hired a pretty 28 year old. She's fun and feisty but I'm sure as hell not going to mess with her.

[-] Carlosc1dbz 40 Points about a year ago

Its not what you do, but what she says or thinks you do.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

// , Rather, how it made her feel.

[-] Carlosc1dbz 2 Points about a year ago

That is the new expression.

[-] CrazedHyperion 3 Points about a year ago

You are correct. Perception creates reality.

[-] [deleted] -11 Point about a year ago

But the stories we’re hearing are credible reports of legitimate actions. It’s not he put a hand on her shoulder and she said he grabbed her ass, it’s just - he grabbed her ass.

[-] korewarp 21 Points about a year ago

For most of the situations she was okay with him grabbing her ass - until she wasn't. I think OPs main point was this weaponized retro-activation of previous "misunderstandable" encounters, that are a danger to men in the workplace.

[-] saargrin 9 Points about a year ago

There's no situation in which it's ok to grab a coworkers ass unless they expressly direct you to

[-] AllHailEuropa 1 Point about a year ago

Lol. No, they're not. Feminist bitch.

[-] PabloAsscrowbar 17 Points about a year ago

That's based on the assumption that women are honourable creatures. But they are not, by looking at some of the 'sexual assault allegations'.

Even if you did not stick your dick inside her, hypothetically she could still say that you made inappropriate remarks about her breasts or touched her inappropriately.

And how are you going to disprove it?

[-] [deleted] 0 Points about a year ago

Or just a different suggestion here, you could always try not coping a feel like a pathetic worm.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

// , I think what he's saying is that it doesn't matter whether you try coping a feel or not. Female consent does not matter to females.

Try searching this forum for "allegations" or "misconduct". Too much of it is trumped up or revised, and the court of public opinion doesn't care whether she was the one molesting you.

Also, spare us your sanctimonious slithering, Pinkie.

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[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , Contribute something to the discussion other than vituperative feminine bickering.

Do you have a personal experience or evidence to share? Good. Bring it on!

[-] p3n1x -5 Point about a year ago

Yeah, that isn't how the law works.

[-] PabloAsscrowbar 13 Points about a year ago

They don't rely on laws. They rely on social media shaming and turning the court of public opinion against you

[-] p3n1x 0 Points about a year ago

Sue for defamation then.

I hear a ton of whining about some Hollywood men getting fucked over in the system they signed up for. How many of you have real-life experience or know a buddy that any of this is happening to right now??

The 'Chicken Little' alarm system is not how men should seek validation.

Men who are men and have done nothing wrong ARE NOT getting fucked over by sexual harassment on a daily basis.

[-] majorketone 4 Points about a year ago

Yeah sue for defamation after you've already been fired and your reputation ruined because the company is in damage control mode. The US Judicial system is definitely not known for favoring females in court. /s

[-] PabloAsscrowbar 4 Points about a year ago

That's provided a man can even afford the legal fees of hiring a lawyer. Lawyers aren't going to do pro bono for cases like these.

[-] p3n1x -5 Point about a year ago

provided a man can even afford the legal fees of hiring a lawyer.

Hate to shit on your fantasy, but the woman isn't going after incels that can barely wipe their own asses.

Don't insert yourself into a situation that doesn't exist for you and then come with arguments of a very weak foundation.

Quit trying to be a White Knight for blue pill men.

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[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

the woman isn't going after incels that can barely wipe their own asses

Incels are the targets of most of these complaints. You have no idea what you are talking about. Women are now using sexual harassment charges mostly against creepy men who have to muster up the courage ask them out. The only cases that make headlines are when the uber Alpha gets the charges. The media is not covering all the men who are summarily fired, demoted, denied promotions, and denied employment in response to this avalanche of charges. It is happening everywhere and mostly to creepy, blue pill men who have no idea how to respond.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

How many of you have real-life experience or know a buddy that any of this is happening to right now

I know one. This is happening all over the country at firms large and small. Women are literally coming out of the woodwork saying METOO.

Do we have to behead the man chained to both your left and right hands before you wake up and realize there is a problem?

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[-] max_peenor 12 Points about a year ago

Its nice having women around the office

There are lots of competent women that are effective in their roles. However, without structure and control, they invariably create unnecessary drama. As men lose their influence in a company, it gets worse.

And when it's only women... lookout!

[-] gELSK 4 Points about a year ago

// , Way to chime in, "Because I don't hate women" coco5440. Consider what would happen if the "pretty 28 year old", regardless of whether you're "not going to mess with her" says you made an "inappropriate comment"? Who would people take more seriously? Would it matter whether or not you had actually said anything inappropriate?

Things aren't that bad for you. Yet

If I may mix a metaphor, "First they came for the canaries..."

Also, consider that, just as men can act in bad faith, so can women. Part of OP's point is that the court of public opinion will handle these situations very differently.

[-] Hamilton950B 4 Points about a year ago

Absolutely right. You don't shit where you eat. OP's advice "Avoid working with women period" is bullshit. My advice is don't kiss your colleagues or clients on the lips. In fact don't hug or kiss them at all. I've worked with women my entire career, never kissed any of them, and don't expect to get drawn in to the "me too" drama.

[-] coco5440 3 Points about a year ago

Yeah, trying to kiss colleagues is obviously inappropriate behavior (and always has been). Most of these guys have only themselves to blame for their current situation.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

// , And if the women try to kiss you?

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

My advice is don't kiss your colleagues or clients on the lips.

This advice is demonstrably ineffective. Many non-sexual interactions beyond the bare minimum are now subject to 10-years post-factum accusations.

Consider the post, earlier, by an Uber driver, and another by a guy who nearly got fired for asking someone as a friend to get coffee sometime.

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[-] Entropy-7 10 Points about a year ago

They can turn on you at any time.

[-] MaxSteelMetal 1 Point about a year ago

What is happening everywhere? I am new to this sub. Found this thread fascinating. Are women that mean?

[-] RedPill_Swinger 31 Points about a year ago

Go ad hominem against that. If it happened long ago they most likely don't have a single proof.

Hold frame.

Also guys, seriously, Common Law systems (which I love) are really fucked up nowadays. Just remind them a simple principle: nobody can be punished for a fact that happened before a law was enacted. Don't be afraid to prey on their ignorance, attack and destabilise them for they are using a twisted interpretation of the law to cause a big damage in your career. Also, if it happened elsewhere (OP talked about China) simply remind them that they have no Jurisdiction whatsoever. For instance if I smoked weed and fucked a hoe in Amsterdam I can't be punished in Brazil.

"Failing" to understand this means that some people (we know whom) are using the legal system to criminally foster passive violence and cause real consequences in people's lives. The sanctimonious SJW always show off they're superiority but I've never seen less educated, less violent and less intelligent people, really

[-] [deleted] 18 Points about a year ago

When powerful men, in nearly unassailable positions can be utterly destroyed by accusations from random vagina people, what hope does your average white collar office jock have against Sally Sue rotten crotch in accounting? The Pence maneuver is mandatory in the first world.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 1 Point about a year ago

Frame is still the answer as always. Assuming you didn't actually do anything wrong which would have produced evidence against you, deny outright and stick to it. There's a reason some politicians are resigning and some are not. Pence took the even safer strategy of maintaining a standing alibi, but unless you are in a position where you face actual consequences from a mere accusation, just deny the accusations if they come.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 1 Point about a year ago

Frame is still the answer as always. Assuming you didn't actually do anything wrong which would have produced evidence against you, deny outright and stick to it. There's a reason some politicians are resigning and some are not. Pence took the even safer strategy of maintaining a standing alibi, but unless you are in a position where you face actual consequences from a mere accusation, just deny the accusations if they come.

[-] CrazedHyperion 7 Points about a year ago

You don't understand, he is afraid of being judged in the court of public opinion. And your example is invalid, also. If you fucked some underage ho in a place like anyplace outside of the US and it comes to the knowledge of US authorities, you can bet your sorry ass that you will be prosecuted when you return home. I would say that if you're a nobody, it may never happen. If you are a public person, oh, boy, it's going to be a criminal prosecution.

[-] Rian_Stone 1 Point about a year ago

Not true. Canadian was charged with picking up boys in Thailand, even though it was outside jurisdiction.

You are held to your nations law when abroad, depending.

[-] Entropy-7 1 Point about a year ago

It depends on the country and the area of law you are dealing in. A mundane example is that if you are an American citizen the IRS will tax you regardless of where you live or where you made your money. A more extreme example is child sex trafficking and such. AFAIK, you can get prosecuted in the USA for being a sex tourist in Asia.

[-] [deleted] 0 Points about a year ago

You see, now you're going on the offense. I like it.

It's seems all of trp is running, tail tucked and it makes me sick.

This defeatist attitude is why they're betas in the first place.

[-] vitalesan 29 Points about a year ago

Australia is starting to get a little Pro-SJW, too. It’s a cringe worthy time, when crazed feminists are taken seriously....

[-] Spets87 26 Points about a year ago

Mate it's more than a little SJW here. Case point any mainstream news show like The Project etc. Check out Independent Man on youtube for great commentary on this shit.

[-] vitalesan 2 Points about a year ago

Aarrrgh! Don’t get me started on “the project”!!! What a piece of liberal shit that is!

[-] Entropy-7 2 Points about a year ago

I was there in '91 when men were men and sheep were nervous. From what I have heard from Aussie guys is that it has gone down the shitter. The Newfies and Albertans are holding it together in Canada but most of the country is a lost cause.

[-] [deleted] 5 Points about a year ago

They're only ever taken seriously by beta men. Remember that. Their opinions and those who support them are inherently ineffective losers. Pay em no mind.

[-] no_face 22 Points about a year ago

I’ve deeply hugged, kissed on cheek, even kissed on lips colleagues or clients.

In the 80s and 90s, occasionally sleeping with clients colleagues was a given.

Also, colorful language, occasional boorishness was frowned upon but forgotten.

There was no need to destroy careers because "he groped me when we posed for a photo" or "he kissed me".

Nearly EVERY man I know has said or did something that was off-color. All this pretending to be saints and calling on others to resign is such bullshit.

Do what Trump and Moore did. Deny. Their careers are fine. Look at the careers of those who admitted and apologized. Their careers took a hit.

Just say "Im not gonna discuss nonsense, if you have evidence, then we can talk."

[-] [deleted] 22 Points about a year ago

If it makes you feel any better, most guys only give a shit about this stuff for theater.. Make the women around us happy and not deal with the barking if we were to engage in an actual discussion based in logic and rational thinking rather than simple knee jerk emotions.

Most of us know deep down inside that most of these incidents were probably the woman using her body to gain some kind of upward mobility in the workplace because she didn't feel like working as hard as the men were. Then a couple of years later, she felt like a ho, learned about 3rd wave feminism and realized she's the victim.

Most guys are quite skeptical of what's going on but they won't show it because they don't want to get labeled "woman hater" and shit like that.

[-] nebder 18 Points about a year ago

The shit will continue until a powerful enough man gets accused and says fuck this, I ain’t rolling over. He’ll call it out for how ludicrous it is and the winds will fall out of the sails.

It’s how McCarthyism was finally killed. We should relearn the lessons of the past.

[-] [deleted] 11 Points about a year ago

Trump kind of did this. I personally don't support the guy (I'm also not some "LOL DRUMPF!" idiot), but admire his tenacity to stick to his guns.

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point about a year ago

Trump held frame; all these other guys frames may as well be made of glass.

[-] BluepillProfessor 7 Points about a year ago

a powerful enough man gets accused

They tried it with Trump. What do you propose, that they go after Putin so a "real" man can put a stop to it.

This MeToo thing is the Salem Witch trials. It will only end when the women begin to pull back after they watch enough bodies swinging from a rope. Not before.

The manginas and White Knights will continue supporting women no matter what atrocities they commit. Only the women can stop it and they will only stop when it hurts them more to make accusations than it does to shut the fuck up and handle it like a professional. It will only hurt them when there is so much male suffering that sons, husbands, and brothers begin to be affected.

From the Salem Witch Trials to the 1980 "Child Sex Orgies" when we were told by prattling wenches that "children NEVER lie about sexual assault." Of course they "never" lie until the therapists encourage them with implanted memories!

These generational wildfires are ALWAYS caused by WOMEN MAKING RIDICULOUS ALLEGATIONS and WHITE KNIGHTS AND OTHER WOMEN SUPPORTING THEM. They always create an area of destruction and then they burn out for lack of fuel as people change their behaviors.

Often the behavior change is for the good. In the 1980's it caused day care centers to start videotaping, background checks for employees and so on.

However, in this case, the behavior change is going to be awful. MOST men and women meet at work or at school. Now that the schools sexual harassment nonsense has gone corporate the only place to meet girls is on Tinder or at the Sunday Morning Night Club (Church).

My only hope is that this time the backlash will look like the N1 Rocket.

STOP TALKING TO GIRLS AT WORK. BE CALM, COOL AND PROFESSIONAL. DO NOT SOCIALIZE WITH THEM. DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THEM UNLESS IT IS WORK RELATED AND THEIR ARE WITNESSES AROUND YOU. MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE A STATISTIC AND THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTAND. They won't like it at all. They will argue. Don't argue! Simply say: "I would FEEEEEEEELLLLLL more comfortable if you would not come into my office...."

[-] nebder 2 Points about a year ago

I did not propose anything. I made my estimation of the events that will cause this shitstorm to finally blow over.

I was true bloopie during the 2016 election. I thought the grab her by the pussy remark was the nail in the coffin for trump. Turns out that is a highly effective metaphor if you stop and think he doesn’t mean literally grab a handful of clam. Trump blew through that shit and won the election. Funny how perspectives change with knowledge and experience.

I don’t follow current news to the minute. Trump has managed to defend/deflect/defeat any accusations against him to date. There’s apparently “calls to resign” for trump but there was always some call to resign/impeach for obama during his presidency. Up to this point I haven’t seen anything beyond the expected political noise from the opposition party.

That’s an interesting take (that I agree with) that it will take women to end it. I expect the catalyst to be something along these lines. Hypothetically Justin Bieber gets accused tomorrow without any solid proof and the fan base backlash will shut all this shit down. So it’ll take a very powerful man that women support to come under fire to get this shit over with. That’s a better statement than my original.

If it gets down to grassroots level to where the everyman brother, son and husband is effected, then that’s a practically incomprehensible number of men destroyed. Let’s round the number to 300 million Americans, so 150 million American men. What percentage of that sparks the female backlash? 1% is 1.5 million men destroyed. Is that enough? Is that more than the magic number? 5% is 7.5 million men destroyed. I cannot imagine it getting to those levels. I hope I’m not wrong there.

I’m trying to walk the line between the “they came for X group, and I said nothing. Blah blah blah” spiel and whether this is just an opportunistic feeding frenzy that won’t ever impact me. Many of the accused have been wealthy and middling powerful at best. Matt lauer is a great example. I expect he has plenty of money but he’s just a tv personality at the end of the day. Nobody has an emotional attachment to him and he doesn’t actually create anything. He’s easily replaceable. Perfect high profile, no power target.

On a side note, what happened with the George Takei accusation? Seemed like that shit happened and went dark immediately. Takei always presented a positive, uplifting presence on social media. I don’t follow that shit anymore so I don’t have an idea of the outcome.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

Takei accusation

I wouldn't worry about our third favorite dick sucking Star Trek character (after Uhurua and Deanna of course!).

He is gay Left-Winger so he get's a pass.

Right Winger looks at or talks to girl: Rape! Sexual Assault! Serial Abuser of Women!!!!

Left Winger looks at girl: No problem.

Left Winger in power position entices girl to suck dick: No problem until I get my Best Actress award and we are able to coordinate with other women online to bring bogus charges.

Left Winger rapes girl: By the laws of the universe, the woman can NEVER by at fault and anything else is blaming the victim. Thus, Left Winger man loses to woman every time.

Gay Left Winger rapes / abuses/ molests teenage boys: What's the problem? Are you a homophobe?

[-] NormanoSilurian 1 Point about a year ago

McCarthyism....https://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas-ebook/dp/B000W94GOU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1512853686&sr=8-3&keywords=mccarthy

Enough of your leftist shit

[-] nebder 1 Point about a year ago

I’m a libertarian at best who can hold multiple views in my head at once. Political discussion beyond the local level isn’t any better than wrestling a pig.

Interesting link. Find it on audible for me. I have my credit for the month.

The book is highly lauded by the extreme right. Hard to cite it as an unbiased source. Im not in disagreement that the soviets won the espionage game in the Cold War.

[-] gELSK 0 Points about a year ago

// , Interesting. Sometimes, just because it's a witch-hunt doesn't necessarily mean there aren't some witches running around, I guess.

I'll ask a historian friend of mine about it.

Edit: Asked the historian, and got the following:

"The penetration wasn't thorough, nor terribly deep, and not as effective as the Commies would've hoped. Even the most forgiving account would not dispute that McCarthy was an ego-maniacal drunk.

Wrote that. Then, I clicked the link to see, OH SURPRISE, glowing reviews from Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter. Next. History is not moved by Right-wing revisionism.

Long (oh, so long) but interesting review of the life and impacts of the guy who paved the way for McCarthy, and who caused as much or more damage in the doing, here: Washington Gone Crazy You'll get creeped out every time you fly through Las Vegas after reading it (McCarran International Airport is named for the guy.)"

[-] Tailback 2 Points about a year ago

Read about "The Venona Papers".

[-] SeemedGood 21 Points about a year ago

Hear you, and know exactly what you mean, having walked in similar shoes in the same industry for 25 years.

If you plan it well and phase it in, there are still places in the US where you can John Galt.

Note that the current sexual warfare is only one component of the larger plan to convert humanity into a giant insect colony (inclusive of insect colony sexual dynamics). The main thrust is arriving as a giant and unlubricated government cock being shoved into the anus of individual free will. There are very few places on Earth where a greater percentage of the population has the cultural will to fight the attempted ass-raping and no place on Earth where those who would resist the onslaught of human insectification are better armed.

Leave Fairfield County (though your timing on that trade is atrocious) and head west old man, but not too far west. Get off the coasts, stay away from the cities, and eschew the social scene to which your wife has hopefully not become accustomed. There is some extraordinary living out here if you’re man enough and you’re woman is uncorrupted enough to set down some roots in a place where skinny lattes, pilates, and a major airport are over 200 miles away.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

humanity into a giant insect colony (inclusive of insect colony sexual dynamics).

Glad I'm not the only one to have made this comparison.

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[-] lookdeepintomyeyes 19 Points about a year ago

I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Which we should all be glad about. Trump being elected is the canary in the coal mine that this trend is shifting. I realize all the scandals are coming out now and people are losing jobs left and right just for the accusations, but that's the contrived court of public opinion that the news media is trying to maintain. It's failing though. Most of these cases are too weak to even go to trial and word is getting out. Women are finally starting to be called sluts and whores and gold diggers on message boards on popular news sites. People are seeing through it. There simply can't be this many victims. People are starting to remember that women sleep with their bosses to get ahead, they realize that's what they did and now they're crying assault for the very same reason. We aren't alone on this sub. Not even close. The pendulum swung their way, it crested, and now it's coming back the other way.

There may be a better logical fallacy to describe what you're doing mentally but I think Slippery Slope is close enough. Stocks rise and fall, pendulums swing back and forth, trends come and go. The Political Correctness police are fighting their last battle here, but the tide has shifted and public sentiment is pushing back in the other direction.

Think of it like investing. You see a stock go up 50% so you buy it (or don't sell it), not realizing that it was only going to go up another 10% before falling another 40%, losing you 30% of your principle. A stock falls by 50% and you assume it will keep falling so you sell (or you don't buy), but it only falls another 10% and then goes back up by 40%. You just missed out on a 30% return.

Everyone put down their nooses. It looks bad right now but it won't be for much longer. I'm very confident in that.

As for OP, I think you're smart to prepare. You may very well get clipped before the reaping is done if you're that high profile, but the supply of rape/sexual assault claims has become so high lately that their value and importance and the interest and sympathy they draw from people HAS to decline. If for anything else basic desensitization. If not complete ideological revolt.

[-] [deleted] 10 Points about a year ago

Look, I want to believe you're right that this election signaled some sort of sea change, but Trump's approval rating is at 32%. That's not the MSM telling lies. That's just what it is.

[-] reddit_sucks6 10 Points about a year ago

Are these "approval ratings" coming from the same companies that generated the poll results that had hillary at a 98% chance of victory?

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

I don't know man. If you think the Gallup numbers are rigged that would be a pretty big conspiracy. Seems like red pill is full of them these days.

[-] [deleted] -2 Point about a year ago

Trump's approval rating is low because his supporters were disappointed when the left told them that if they voted for Trump they were voting for Literally Hitler.. but, instead, they got Literally Mr Smith.

[-] lookdeepintomyeyes 1 Point about a year ago

Every president's approval ratings suck. The point is which way does the vote go. In this day and age I would have thought Trump didn't stand a fart in the wind's chance. The slippery slope is the fallacy too many people on this sub are operating under. History is a pendulum.

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

Thanks for this. Well said.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 3 Points about a year ago

Not criticizing, just pointing out to you: you basically dumped a bucket of gasoline on the doom and gloom wildfire this sub has been infested with for months. You do you, if you feel it's time to get the hell out of dodge, do it. But I've been seeing a lot more people here, in particular endorsed contributors, freaking out like they're about to be the next guy pilloried for just taking to a woman.

The sub is full of young newbies who are gonna start off with their head filled with "how to avoid getting #metoo'd" rather than frame, game, self-improvement, the nature of women, and enjoying the decline. It may be an important thing for some established men, but a lot of us aren't ready for the exit strategy and the newer ones won't realize this isn't for them

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

I hear you. However, RP truths are difficult to swallow and I only wish I had the same perspective as a young newbie. Not to bail, but always have an exit strategy and mitigate for future risks.

The doom and gloom is necessary because it’s called for given the climate. New soldiers going into battle on the beaches of Normandy needed to know the risks to calibrate accordingly, despite lack of experience.

The lesson for the newbies is, as your game is elevated, and you become highly desirable to women, the stakes go up, and it’s easy to lose perspective and become a future target.

If I could have done it over again with what I’ve learned from the stories on trp I would have done a lot differently.

On a positive note, with some of the feedback I’ve received I’m going to do an updated post on how to mitigate risk I’ve developed that I think is working.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Have you read anything by Vox Day

[-] BluepillProfessor -1 Point about a year ago

I will pray that you are right. I don't think you are.

[-] Shakydrummer 16 Points about a year ago

Half the people in my office are women. It really isn't all that bad, just don't shit where you eat and keep it strictly business.

[-] gELSK 19 Points about a year ago

// , I think this is what he's implying:

You'll soon have to replace "office" in your post with more and more of the public and private sphere.

Half the people in my __ are women. It really isn't all that bad, just don't shit where you eat and keep it strictly business.

class, hiking group, apartment complex, street, social circle, grocery store...even... dance club, bar, coffee shop

[-] Marsupian 4 Points about a year ago

Not every office is the same.

[-] GreenPiller 15 Points about a year ago

America isn't worth it anymore... I'll be leaving in a decade when I'm 32. Not many people know the feeling of true freedom, people who have left America probably know what I'm talking about.

[-] alxjones 4 Points about a year ago

where you headed? where would you like to go?

[-] GreenPiller 12 Points about a year ago

Probably Latin America, if I find a safe city or a small town and lay low I can avoid drug cartels and live a comfy life with 18 year old cuties that'll do anything for money. I also hear about guys teaching English in Asian countries.

[-] frooschnate 7 Points about a year ago

You're really shooting yourself in the foot if you think Latin America is a step up, or even freedom. Only place which would be decent is probably Chile, and they are deciding their future next Sunday in the elections.

[-] GreenPiller 2 Points about a year ago

Any country in Latin America is hell when you are broke, but I know a lot of people that invest and live comfy lives, I love USA but I have simply lost faith, net neutrality, police brutality, liberalism and degeneracy, corrupt government, etc. I feel like this country is falling apart and there is no stopping it.

https://youtu.be/M62Va6Ft2cw

[-] frooschnate 3 Points about a year ago

I lived in Ecuador from '05 until 2 months ago, part of what you could call the 1%. The socialist movement in Latin America hits everyone. The country had record breaking levels of economical bonanza and great projection; still, a shitty government filled to the brim with corruption wasted every single cent and stole the rest.

Same thing goes for Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Colombia, etc. Chile's been stuck for a couple of years with Bachelet, Peru apparently is going forward steadily.

Sure, I had a nice life with a lot of commodities. Terrible education, plenty of delinquency which did improve, an authoritative and scummy gov, extremely high prices on imports; cars, clothes, appliances, etc. There's no stability. These countries have had flaky governments since the beginning of time, you'll never know when you'll be forced to flee if you want to keep an ounce of freedom.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

// , You can even do 2-bit videography, interviews, translation, or even proofreading for the local BigCorp.

[-] Holaacu 1 Point about a year ago

I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but i would not fall for the asian country meme; those societies are very different, you'll probably not live comfy at all. regarding Latin America, Argentina, Chile and Uruguay are all very comfy, especially if you are upper-middle class or above

[-] GreenPiller 1 Point about a year ago

I hear good things about Chile, although Mexico would be my first choice since I lived there a few years.

[-] Entropy-7 1 Point about a year ago

I teach English in China. If you want some insight, then PM me.

[-] Entropy-7 4 Points about a year ago

Been living in China for 5 years. Setting aside political activism and some of the bureaucracy with running a business, I am relatively free to do whatever the hell I want in comparison with Canada. I don't have socialized medicine but then again I don't have to hand over a third of my earnings to the government.

The women here are feminine and you aren't going to get sued for complimenting them.

[-] jewishsupremacist88 13 Points about a year ago

sugar dating is the NEW thing. alot of people here hate on hookers/sugar babies but the truth is..in the modern world in the west, getting married is a massive fucking liability..especially if you have status or worth.

[-] ChadThundercockII 4 Points about a year ago

hookers/sugar babies

If a guy is not getting sex from random thots and is not getting it from hookers and sugar babies, then the only possibility is him being a broke ass autistic fuck who is going to be fucked over by some random woman.

[-] Original_Dankster 12 Points about a year ago

Wise to have an exit strategy.

You could move money to a place where US courts can't seize your assets and their courts aren't femininized. Buy a vacation home there. Be prepared to make your vacation home your real home if the time comes

[-] CrazedHyperion 6 Points about a year ago

Exactly. Make yourself look poor. You should know how.

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[-] tb87670 11 Points about a year ago

The problem we as men need to address as soon as possible today: false rape accusations. This post might get long but this stuff needs to be said plainly. As of this year women learned that this is a foolproof weapon in a dying politically correct society. They can outright lie, it becomes a he-said-she-said, and the man will lose regardless of lack of evidence. We as a species need to confront this sickness now and cut it out, false rape accusations have spread at a rapid pace since it went mainstream as the way to put down a political opponent.

"Studies" say it's between 2-8%, but that's false rape accusations that were caught for being too blatantly false. Lots of false rape accusations end up with the guy in jail, fired, etc. Don't listen to the rhetoric. My LTR's skanky sister (basic bitch that suffers high hypergamy, never liked her) is falsely accusing a man right now and is actually humblebragging about the experience. Reality is she simply had an unwanted advance, she could have said no and walked off but no she had to go to the police and fake cry. Even my LTR says she is starting to suspect the story. Starting to. See that is the point, even if the story is obviously fake women default to believing the "victim" no matter what at first. This is why congressmen and hollywood bigwigs are quitting, they know they can't fight this petty shit in court without making themselves look worse to the biased media.

My advice on what to do is obviously record, record, record. Woman wants to take it to court and you have recordings go aggressive. Make copies, show it to police with her moaning how much she loved it. Show it at court in front of her family and friends. Let the judge watch her slam-dunk your junk into her throat. Then hit her for slander and anything else under the sun, and sue her for court costs. After several thousand bitches get tossed out of court for this the hard numbers will come in and the next year real statistics will be available on how often this shit really goes on, as long as we can have a neutral source that won't let feminists and PC metro-sexual male feminists whitewash the numbers.

In public this issue is coming up more often. Consider rape accusations false 99% of the time and don't feed into the feminist fantasies by agreeing with it at work, simply don't reply and refuse to talk about the subject. Lots of us men go with Law 38 and act like we support them in public, this gives women the illusion and the courage to continue their shitty behavior. If your job is at risk you don't need to lie, just don't engage. This wave of false rape accusations isn't over yet. It might not even be peaking yet. But we, mankind as a collective body need to step on this issue and cut the cancer out before it ends up doing irreparable damage.

[-] Throwawaysteve123456 4 Points about a year ago

I agree except for the 99% part. False rape accusations are a real thing; it's impossible to throw out numbers without definitions. If we define legit rape as physiacl control, and if we consider reported cases, a good chunk are going to be legit, some will be completely false, and the rest will be half truths (she was super super drunk, and would never have slept with him normally, but still consented). I think it's too far to say 1% are legit. I'd say probably half.

[-] tb87670 1 Point about a year ago

The exaggeration was a counterpoint to the exaggeration we see on campuses today. Considering 99% of rape accusations are false usually holds up when someone is going public or on the news to make their case, real rapes tend to be kept low-key and kept in the court. The women going out on TV or in magazine/news articles so they can be told how brave they are, those cases are attention seekers and likely really close to that 99% fake number. Those cases are almost always far short of actual rape. They are more along the lines of unwanted advances, sloppy drunk hookups, changed their mind the next day and didn't like the guy anymore, or they got ditched and retroactively called the entire experience "rape".

Young men and women are going into classrooms to hear how men are walking rape machines any time they even think about sex and it's easy cookie points for a woman to say she has been raped. I'd say you are being overly generous saying even half of rape cases are true, today women are awarded so much for saying they have been raped. And if you want to bring up concern for actual rape victims then my stance is still the same, do not believe most of these cases. All the liars, braggarts, and regretful skanks are hurting the real rape victims by crying wolf too much. I am actually shocked real feminists are not getting upset that this trend is hurting women as much as men in this regard, you only see a few women standing up to this nonsense.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

Consider rape accusations false 99% of the time and don't feed into the feminist fantasies by agreeing with it at work, simply don't reply and refuse to talk about the subject.

Let's not go to the other extreme, now. 99%? You really think 99% of rape accusations are false? False until proven otherwise, yes. But I'm not going to make my intellectual honesty a casualty of some scorched earth approach to culture wars.

If you had a sister, would you let her walk through the hood in Baltimore unescorted?

Fuck, man, it's not 99%.

[-] Garathon 1 Point about a year ago

Most women do not walk through the hood in Baltimore unescorted. False analogy.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , You still refuse to back up your 99% claim

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

I bet we could find common ground in reality well between 3% and 99% false claims.

My bet is right about 50% of rape allegations are hamster specials. I am not sure about these "sexual harassment" allegations women are pulling out of their ass. Jesus H. Christ if we can retroactively make it an offense to ask a coworker out for coffee 20 years later then what is "false" and what is "true."

[-] coco5440 2 Points about a year ago

If you live in a state that requires all parties consent to being recorded you'll just be digging a deeper hole.

[-] tb87670 3 Points about a year ago

Judges do not like being lied to their face, and even if they have to toss the evidence out and charge you for wiretapping they will not look favorably on the woman being a proven liar. All you have to do is play it in court, if it's not allowed to be played in court release it in public everywhere and bring it up. Contempt and wiretapping do not ruin your life like a rape case can.

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point about a year ago

I'd rather be convicted of wiretapping than rape.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Which conviction gets you more jail time? A conviction of non-consensual recording, or a conviction of non-consensual sex?

I find the whole thing distasteful, but you have to admit there's a stark, harsh logic here.

[-] AllahHatesFags 0 Points about a year ago

Every RP man should be like Dennis Reynolds in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and have a hidden camera set up in his bedroom to record every sexual encounter. When a false rape allegation occurs, show the cops and some amateur porn; if she goes after you on social media, post it there along with a star rating out of five just like Dennis does.

[-] CrazedHyperion 9 Points about a year ago

I'll be fucked if I submit to terroristic threats, ISIS or feminism. I am who I am and I refuse to live in fear of anything. Fuck feminism in the ass, for all I care, nobody will dominate men as long as men have intrinsic value. Remember, the line between "civilization" and total chaos and anarchy is very thin and "strong" women need to be reminded of that. The thin line is as close as the nearest electric outlet, the heating furnace and the telephone - WiFi connection.I can see that self-nominated feminists and the assorted hanger-ons will be paying a very dear price for the things they've said and done. This is not a threat, just karma in action.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Do you realize with what impunity and lack of evidence your bank account can be frozen?

You can even anonymously forge a writ of restitution and get someone kicked out of their house.

You might not fear the state, but that doesn't mean it can't imprison you apropos of nothing.

[-] CrazedHyperion 1 Point about a year ago

It's true. You own nothing, not even the clothes on your back. Your house can be confiscated or awarded to someone just for asking. Mental health issues, court appoints a legal guardian that moves you to casa del whacos and sells the property (to himself or friends or relatives for pennies), not to mention divorces. Accounts can get blocked on a whim, but sometimes, if you have multiple accounts with a certain bank (checking and savings), they may block the checking but forget about savings. Best way to spoof this is to get your EIN number from the IRS, it's free, you can have up to 7 EINs, which have a different format than social security numbers. Then, open up a BUSINESS account in your name, using the EIN. Keep the info secret from any other people. Possibly a safe address, and use the money when the emergency hits. And also get a second citizenship if you can.

[-] [deleted] 9 Points about a year ago

I have two issues with women in the past year alone that could really cost me I’m now waiting to bubble up. I don’t even want to think about the last ten years.

One of them could cost me dearly in terms of access and social proof for conference talks and sales leads. My fault? Accepting her invitation back to her hotel room. It didn’t end in sex. She got all weird and instead of working through the LMR I figured she wasn’t worth the risk. Well stupid me, by being in her hotel room and EVERYONE KNOWING she can basically say ANYTHING now.

The second one, a vendor, took me out for drinks, she’s young and had been flirting hard core. I got hammered and made out with her. She giggled like a little school girl and had a ton of fun, then stopped returning my calls. She obviously got weird or had some regret. Her bestie at another firm stopped returning my calls too. I’m waiting for the article on Medium where she talks about how I forced myself on her and she played along because “poor scared little girl just trying to close a deal...”. They brought me most of my east coast clients. These folks made me a lot of money. They could have made me more.

I dodged a bullet on a third. Vendor wanted to take me out for drinks, she (its two ladies actually) asks me where I want to go, I tell her “strip club”. She actually gets clearance from her Senior VP to take me to one (this is oil industry but it isn’t like it used to be). I had last minute travel so we had to reschedule the night out but it never happened. That could have gotten ugly, they connected me with my biggest current client.

OP is right, it’s going to be in the thousands.

Funny story: I told my assistant she should probably report me to somebody, (we play pretty hard) she laughed and asked when I’m taking her out again. She’s RP AF. Which is why she’s my assistant. Plus I’ve got a mountain of texts from her as insurance.

[-] chuckthundercock 8 Points about a year ago

I hamstered my own justification as well with texts or photos of women groping me, people who would testify when the client slid her hand in my lap, but in the new world order that doesn’t matter. They were “scared but playing along” you aren’t likely in any legal trouble, but no matter how rp a woman is, post epiphany or aged and decrepit, the hamster will reconstruct any series of events to use against you.

Some posters here aren’t understanding none of this is sexual assault, or even sexual harassment, it’s “sexual inappropriately” which means, she decided 20 years ago that she didn’t like your hug, and your fucked. We need a counter movement, but in current times, unlikely. Be careful be warned.

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

You’re exactly right, nothing is illegal it’s all about “impropriety” or just the appearance of impropriety.

[-] Entropy-7 4 Points about a year ago

The other thing is judging past actions by present standards.

[-] Psynaut 8 Points about a year ago

I can't recommend Thailand highly enough. It's the best place in the world. Worth moving to, even if you didn't have to.

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[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 0 Points about a year ago

I see you like ping pong and traps

[-] Psynaut 0 Points about a year ago
[-] PallbearerNumber5 8 Points about a year ago

Fuck man, I’ve always been blue pill and all of these allegations are making me red pill now. It’s turning into us vs them.

But the pendulum swings back. There will be a backlash and it sucks for real victims. In a years time, we’ll start to learn how many not famous individuals were fucked over by this hashtag. The numbers will be staggering and buried, but the damage will be done. Less woman will be hired will be the first metric to reveal this. That glass ceiling will be made of concrete for awhile.

[-] Whitified 5 Points about a year ago

The pendulum never swings back. It's a slippery slope, and it only slides one way. We live in a post-feminist society so it will only get worst. More quotas to hire women will be put in place.

I'm glad you're getting red pilled and I wish you more red pill moments.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , It's already concrete.

https://www.google.com/search?q=evolutionary+biology+fitness+ceiling&oq=evolutionary+biology+fitness+ceiling

Edit: And consider that the arc of your "pendulum" may exceed your lifetime, and that it may not swing for you.

[-] VasiliyZaitzev 7 Points about a year ago

In finance it’s a party hard with super high net worth clients and part of my duties have involved circumstances with colleagues that could be in the wolf of Wall Street.

And that's your defense: It was a job requirement. You hated it. You HATED how those girls in strip clubs were exploited, HATED how you were forced to do blow off of hooker's boobs. You HATED every goddamn second of it. /lulz

[-] RatioRegnum 7 Points about a year ago

Sic transit gloria mundi - this too shall pass.

That said, under the radar is the way to fly. My whole career I have kept a strict line between church and state, work and play. I have not lacked opportunity, and some of those have been awfully tempting, but it simply isn't worth it.

[-] thickandheavy 7 Points about a year ago

I am new to Red Pill and generally agree with most of the topics here but the current state of the media has made men downright hysterical with anxiety about being accused of harassment. I'm a lawyer and can say with the utmost confidence that if you have done nothing in the past that you wouldn't want any other man to do to your daughters/wife/sister then your anxiety is unfounded.

[-] coco5440 4 Points about a year ago

Second this sentiment. If you haven't been a dick you'll be fine.

[-] thickandheavy 3 Points about a year ago

Thank you, exactly. I take pride in being a strong masculine figure for my wife and daughters, to think that some men would villainize all women because of a few sensationalized cases in the media is disappointing. In my line of work (in the past 20 years) I have come across some of the lowest of the low and have never come across a case of false accusations when it comes to issues of rape and sexual harassment. As the protector of my family I would see that these accusations are taken seriously and dealt with swiftly and justly. Any member of law enforcement would agree with me. Please consult your rationality before you generalize and sensationalize certain ideas.

[-] thickandheavy 5 Points about a year ago

Furthermore, I would argue that it is largely anti-alpha to be scared into hysteria by the accusations in the media. If you are a scared, then I assume you may have some reason to be. After all, if you feel the need to assert your power over women you've pretty much already lost...

[-] coco5440 3 Points about a year ago

Yes! They're acting like scared little bunnies -- hardly Alpha.

[-] coco5440 2 Points about a year ago

False accusations do happen. I've had clients falsely accused of rape. In one case a high school couple was caught by a school security guard having sex. The girl was terrified of her abusive father so rather than admit she was being promiscuous with an African American boy she said she was raped. The police never interviewed the security guard and the DA filed charges without ever getting a statement from the security guard. By this time it was summer and the guard was hard to find (the school district was less than helpful -- they withheld contact information). My investigator finally found the guard. His statement that "it looked consensual to me" spared my client the worst of the criminal justice system. But the DA still insisted on an unlawful intercourse plea (California Penal Code section 261.5).

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

I'm a lawyer and can say with the utmost confidence that if you have done nothing in the past that you wouldn't want any other man to do to your daughters/wife/sister* then your anxiety is unfounded.

Do you mean anxiety about legal repercussions, or simply any effects of 10-year-old "he said she said" ?

A court of law might throw it out, but you can say goodbye to your job.

*Also, consider that this standard is unreasonable, in the legal sense of the word "unreasonable."

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 1 Point about a year ago

For someone new, you're off to a good start. This sentiment from the new guys is refreshing to hear, especially with all the ECs and the like panicking like they're the next one to get #metoo'd

[-] gaki123 6 Points about a year ago

"Land of the free" is probably the biggest meme ever. You get fucked (career and legally wise) because some bitch changed her mind lmao

[-] gELSK 0 Points about a year ago

// , You get fucked if you don't put your tray table up on an airplane, or leave your house without the right clothing. "Freedom" seems to be another victim of moral and epistemic relativism.

[-] mattizie 6 Points about a year ago

This may seem stupid but hear me out.

Considering all the shit that is happening in these careers, wouldn't it be an opportunity to just start your own firm/company and hire all the "shamed" talent that no one else wants to hire.

Unless there's specific legislation against it, could you not just register your place of business as a whore house/adult film company, hire a few prostitutes, and be done with it?

[-] yomo86 6 Points about a year ago

Create your own victimhood by shifting the perpetrator role. You are a man, but can anyone proof that you are not homosexual rendering her allegations mute if not homophobic. Suddenly you found your ways around the truck of peace and became a muslim. The options are manyfold. In the past you could not be a witch when you were married to a priest. Every system that thrives on allegations needs a victim and a perp - use this.

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 5 Points about a year ago

Why is /u/coco5440 getting so many upvotes? He is not redpill. He is a blupiller/sjw shill who pretends he is redpill and spreads toxic feminist/blue pill ideology to the noobies.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , People (on this forum at least) upvote, for better or worse, based on the content, not the writer. They must have thought he had a good point.

[-] hammerhearth 3 Points about a year ago

// , Why do you start all your comments like this

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 0 Points about a year ago

Not true. There's a lot of boobs here in the process of unplugging. Reading his 'points' confirms their previously held beliefs and hinders their unplugging.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

I just reported him on another thread. Time to ban that clown.

[-] coco5440 -4 Point about a year ago

Because I don't hate women -- I just want to understand them better. Indeed I enjoy the company of women. There is a lot of good information on this site. You can use this information without buying into alt-right politics.

I'm a proud liberal (Bernie supported) and union member (Teamster).

I've got to go now. I have a lunch date with a pretty kindergarten teacher (i.e. SJW).

[-] Chaddeus_Rex 5 Points about a year ago

Nobody hates women here. We just recognize certain truths about society and we recognize that women are using their privileged position in society to benefit themselves at the expense of men. If you tell people 'it's not all bad', you're basically telling them it's okay to relax and then they get screwed.

Also, if you supported Bernie, that shows you know nothing of history or how society works. People like you are the problem with this society - you are promoting weakness in men. That is incompatible with Redpill. It has nothing to do with 'alt-right' politics. Bernie support is incompatible with manhood because he wants people dependent on the State, not on themselves.

[-] FireDrillem 1 Point about a year ago

Read the sidebar. Where's the hatred? Bitchass

[-] coco5440 2 Points about a year ago

Some of the posts evidence obvious animus toward women.

[-] BluepillProfessor 0 Points about a year ago

Some of the posts

As demonstrated by your posts, a large number of men posting are blue pill. A large number are new to Red Pill and are still in the anger stage.

Learn the message without shooting the messengers.

Red Pill men don't hate women. But we understand then and it is not pretty.

[-] coco5440 2 Points about a year ago

Controlling emotions is the masculine thing to do. Guys in an anger phase need to exert some self-control. Guys who don't control their anger end up with lots of negative real life consequences. Many of my domestic violence clients had legitimate beefs with their wives and girlfriends but they're the one's being criminally sanctioned because they couldn't control their anger.

[-] BluepillProfessor 0 Points about a year ago

Then it seems to me there should be a place for guys like that to commiserate and express their feelings without being judged and without committing any crimes.

If only there was a Reddit or something where men could go to express their frustrations.

[-] FireDrillem 0 Points about a year ago

Even so, it's besides the point. After experincing the darkside of female nature, TRP allows room to vent anger, hatred or whatever. Many of these guys have not only lost their children but often their lifes work has been fundamentally stolen. Nevertheless, true red pill understanding dictates that one must grow past "the anger phase", shatter the Disney fantasy and master one's self.

[-] coco5440 2 Points about a year ago

If they vent too much this site's going to get shut down.

Also, there are guys here who just like to bitch and take no responsibility for their actions. I get appointed to represent guys in termination of parental rights cases. You have to be either criminally abusive or abandon your kids to totally lose them. Absent that dads will almost always be able to get substantial visitation (approaching or equal to 50%) if they fight.

[-] FireDrillem 2 Points about a year ago

Point well taken. I leave it to the endorsed contributers and moderators to steer subscribers responsibly. I too advise all "haters" to grow up, cut their losses and learn their lessons well.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Politics aside, consider the chilling effect that this sort of thing has on men who simply don't know whether "it's that bad".

With whom would you rather spend your lunch hour, someone who can accuse you with no evidence, years later, of "misconduct", or someone who cannot?

Soon it won't just be Pence who avoids being with women in private on a professional basis. No male mentors for the young ladies.

You don't have to "hate women," as your comment unfairly implies, to see this as a sad situation for both the innocent women and men on the sidelines of #metoo, whose potential working relationships may become collateral damage.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

consider the chilling effect

Whenever it is free speech under attack or anything else that might impact women it is all over the media about the "chilling effect." Weird we have heard NOTHING about the chillling effect on gender relations this is having. We will not hear anything about it until it starts to affect women adversely.

Hashtag// MGTOW4LIFE

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[-] [deleted] 5 Points about a year ago

I'm sorry. God our country is fucking falling apart. I try to be stoic about it, but it really is a hard thing to watch. So many men thought and wrote and debated and fought and bled for something that is all but dead. Thanks men from 1920! You really fucked us!

[-] icecoldpopsicle 5 Points about a year ago

Seems to me the main motivation here is grabbing money and power from people who have it. It's the same old same old puritanism in a new garb and it's going after sexual deviants, only the last type of sexual deviant you're allowed to go after are white, hetero males. Want to be safe ? Keep your money safe, that's it. Move it. Keep it hidden. The rest is fine, they won't imprison you.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Bitcoin.

Bitcoin.

Bitcoin.

It's money, but for MEN.

[-] icecoldpopsicle 2 Points about a year ago

Bitcoin isn't safe as a store of value it has 30% swings intraday. Not to mention the risk of a death spiral if there's a fork and even a third of miners decide to switch to something else (like when they went to mine BTC Cash and the block took 26 hours to hash).

Further down the line bitcoin will be safe but it will be regulated, thus no longer a great way to hide money.

The best way is gift giving to people you trust. Brother, father, cousin. We've saved clients who wanted to divorce hundreds of millions with gift giving, and we'd have these strategies where they guy would open a charity, donate to the wife as well to keep her confused.

Not to brag but we saved some pretty major companies in Switzerland like this.

BTW i'm not saying don't invest in bitcoin, I bought 2, but I'm saying don't park a substantial amount in something that volatile.

[-] [deleted] 4 Points about a year ago

People here seem to think that women are all out to get us. Thats just not true, a majority are detatched from the sjw bullshit, and still appreciate a "traditional" man. But that's just my experience. You should be able to quickly discern a good woman from a bad one.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

Yea, of course the majority women are not out to get us. It doesn't take a majority though. I think 2-4% will be sufficient to sow mass paranoia and chaos. Many of these women are opportunistic liars as well. They don't go into it with a plan to make a false accusation. Classic case is next morning regret. You could also have a woman who worked really hard and didn't get promoted, and she (or her friends) convinces herself that it must be because she turned down some sexual advance.

[-] BluepillProfessor 1 Point about a year ago

You should be able to quickly discern a good woman from a bad one.

Please educate us!

50% of marriages end in divorce. 85% started by all those "good woman" who are so easy to find and distinguish from the "bad" divorcing kind of woman.

Despite that let's go with your premise that "most women are not like that" (MWANLT). Let's say only 1 in 10 woman is "like that" (though the real number is surely closer to 45%).

Let me ask you this. If I tie you up next to a pit of poisonous snakes and tell you to stick your hand in the hole would you? What if I assure you that only 1 in 10 of the snakes is "poisonous?" Still want to play grab the snake?

[-] gELSK 0 Points about a year ago

// , I've heard this argument applied to other demographic groups.

The question is always, "does this majority, and the fact that it is a majority matter?"

According to Pew Research's results from a decade ago, a majority of Americans oppose criminalization of marijuana. And yet we still see massive sentences getting handed out.

[-] [deleted] 4 Points about a year ago

Hold your frame and don’t let them win. Sounds like you’ve done nothing wrong, so when that time comes, give them your best IDGAF attitude.

What is happening right now I believe is the feminist response to TRP. Guys, we can’t roll over and take this one on the chin. They are out to enslave and destroy us. But I will not be chained, and neither should you.

Chin up.

[-] Marsupian 5 Points about a year ago

If you mean a reaction to this sub I highly doubt it. Our influence isn't that significant on a large scale..

[-] [deleted] 3 Points about a year ago

Not this sub. Our ideals, our philosophy, if you will.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Among most of the people I know back in the Midwest, "politically correct" and "moral relativism" are dirty words.

[-] Widowmaker_Only 4 Points about a year ago

People are already beginning to doubt the legitimacy of the mass amount of sexual harassment claims. I really don't think the 50-60 cases will end up going to the thousands.

[-] [deleted] 16 Points about a year ago

Never underestimate what women will do when they feel empowered. It’s sickening.

[-] max_peenor 6 Points about a year ago

They need men to enforce their witch hunt. Like I said above, when all men are suddenly criminals, they will stop giving a fuck about the law.

[-] empatheticapathetic 4 Points about a year ago

White knight judges plus the Ho code

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[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , She's RP.

OP all kinds of lucked out

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

Yes, I lucked out, but never get married. I just hit the lottery. Pure dumb luck.

[-] dontgiveupcarib 3 Points about a year ago

Your generation royally fucked the rest of us. You gave women far too much power, you broke down everything our ancestors built, you truly did it to have a good time. Now you're running away like a slime ball.

We have to fight back against the shit you helped create and we will. But don't expect any pity from us.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

There is a kernal of truth to this. It might be a bit before his generation though. Also I don't believe in holding everyone in a generation responsible for something any more than all people of a race.

[-] BluepillProfessor 3 Points about a year ago

if there is a version of mgtow that includes whores and sugar babies

Level 1 MGTOWs fit this description.

[-] zyxw98 3 Points about a year ago

OP, just gather your assets and move to someplace quiet immediately. Countryside or wherever. Moving across continents take a lot of time and research. Better yet, find people you can trust who are stuck in the same rut and form an alliance. In the mean-time, cut contact with the rest. The beautiful thing about this is you will gain perspective. Apart from the political and feminist hell-holes, most people consider the media exactly how it is - entertainment. This is why the entire media and press still can't believe Trump won. They cannot look beyond their own solipsism.

[-] Rian_Stone 3 Points about a year ago

Either you're incompetent, or this is a bullshit post.

No way you've done 20 years in high finance and don't have enough assets and cash to retire in a rural town and never worry.

No way your wife is taking charge on this. She would ignore it till the last minute, then divorce you.

No way have you spent two decades with boats n hoes and get scared because Hollywood.

Theres no way you did any of this

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

I have plenty of cash to never worry, but who wants to deal with a pile on on individual lawsuits. Loss of public appearance $$.. Public firing from my firm because the risk of losing one client could be in the 100's of millions.

I am frequently on major news publications, and all I need is one inappropriate hug accusor to create a massive hamstering of everyone woman I've had any encounter with to come out of the woodwork with her own lawsuit. You think its only hollywood, look at what's going on with Rodger Ailes, politicans, and now guys like Sherwin @ Uber. You are either a nobody or a fool to think you are insulated.

She's not taking charge, just a reality check, telling me that I'm under-estimating the power of a hamster.

I do appreciate the fact that I DID NOT DO ANY OF THIS, but this these days, THIS is an inappropriate hug?

[-] F_Dingo 3 Points about a year ago

Well, given the last 25 years of my career, it’s only a matter of time until the harpies start coming out to dissect my body and carve up the pieces.

If you're who you say you are then FIGHT LIKE A BEAR if one of these slutbags wants to play around with accusations. You didn't get to high finance by being a pushover or a doormat, you had to claw your way up.

Be the one guy who throws down a libel and slander lawsuit against one of these thots and watch them run like rats. You've got money and that means you can sue people big time.

[-] OSaraiva 3 Points about a year ago

Once money and patience run out, whenever chaos and destruction take over society and real men have got themselves on the sideline of the shitshow, when those feminists and pseudo males become boring and useless, women (and the whole society) will come begging for true men to show up and steer the wreck. Just don't know how long it will take, but i already sense here a serious conservative backlash in young people's minds.

[-] Hjalmbere 3 Points about a year ago

OP says this will creep into dating too, he’s probably right, but mostly in litigious countries. If you live in a non-litigious country there is way less danger, especially if you do your homework and look for red flags.

Only a bonafide psycho bitch would go through the bother of police interrogations and a trial to put a man in jail if there’s not a sizable financial reward should she succeed.

TLDR; Avoid litigious countries. Avoid psycho bitches.

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[-] RosstheMoss81 3 Points about a year ago

At some point enough bogus cases proven will result in reversing the McCarthyism effects.

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[-] molokomoloko 3 Points about a year ago

Or you could stick around, take a leadership role and fight it. Pave the way.

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[-] PabloAsscrowbar 3 Points about a year ago

Japanese women. Queens of passive-aggressiveness.

Once you are married to them, you see their inner manipulative sides appear

[-] lamplights22 3 Points about a year ago

I’m just powerful and public enough that I’m a likely target.

I sincerely doubt this to the fullest extent. Let's be real here, bro. You're a sexually frustrated millennial virgin, who's watched his share of Wall Street movies, roleplaying on the internet as some successful executive who just decided to type up 5 paragraphs on reddit in a desperate attempt to seek advice and strategy. Get real. Lay off the pills from your mommy's medicine cabinet, buddy.

[-] fromthecrypt8 3 Points about a year ago

Although I appreciate what OP is saying, hold your horses. I think this craze may balance itself out in the long run. Alot of people think the metoo campaign has gone too far, even a few bitches. Don’t let the media get in your head, especially liberal toilets like huffpost. Stand your ground and record as often as you can remember. Absolutely never fuck without recording. And as OP says, stay vigilant and off women’s radar if you have to work with women. This is not the time to run with our tail between our legs towards avoidant behavior, but to grow confident that masculinity can tackle this new extreme (female) culture of false accusations.

[-] robot_overloard 3 Points about a year ago

¿ alot ? . . .

I THINK YOU MEANT a lot

^^I ^^AM ^^A ^^BOT^^^beep^boop!

[-] PaulAJK 2 Points about a year ago

Certainly not a bad idea to have an escape strategy, but this meetoo thing will also pass.

[-] red_matrix 1 Point about a year ago

Metoo was Time person of the year - it's going to get a lot bigger before it goes away. The media loves this kind of stuff.

[-] 356dc 2 Points about a year ago

Nice. There's nothing manly about pathetic little worms like Weinstein and Louis CK who guerilla jerk off in front of women, and other stuff like that.

[-] Arabian_Wolf 2 Points about a year ago

What about feminism and the old world? In terms of marriage laws.

Because it’s slowly creeping in through “Women’s Rights”.

[-] targus_4d3d3d3 2 Points about a year ago

This is a great piece of creative writing.

[-] TheNoncaringMurse 2 Points about a year ago

I’m not a fan of MGTOW?

Why not they are on your side men of all kinds need to stick together now.

[-] chuckthundercock 3 Points about a year ago

I like women. I like being around women, my only objection..

[-] TheNoncaringMurse 6 Points about a year ago

I’m surrounded by women in my profession nursing, I see how they stab each other in the back constantly, professionally and personally. II spin plates I love pussy, but women are women and I focus on male relationships and maintaining my brothers and helping each other along the way I’m happier that way.

[-] lenin1928 2 Points about a year ago

Feminism has emboldened the hamsters insatiable appetite for validation and attention. But, where if not Europe or America can a man be a man?

[-] red_matrix 1 Point about a year ago

Africa? You'll need a militia to stay safe though.

[-] WeeklyOracle 2 Points about a year ago

MGTOW does advocate for whores, it's mostly to do whatever you want as a man and not be ruled by women.

[-] hodltaco 2 Points about a year ago

Unfortunately I'm more MGTOW than anything else these days. It's not exactly anything I can control. Until I need to get laid there's really no reason. I'm getting up shortly (2:30 AM!) and working out followed by a day of football. That's it. Good times.

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[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , A lot of this depends, I think, on what they have to lose, and how likely they are to lose it if they make that gamble.

If a high-brow lawyer makes out with a meth-addict, sure, she'll give it a shot.

But I suspect that if that lawyer goes for a high-end, classy courtesan, she won't nuke HER ENTIRE CLIENT BASE unless someone is actually harming her.

Plus, prostitutes are less credible on the witness stand.

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

Not high end ones, usually women of industry or women with families

[-] richpianoooo 1 Point about a year ago

serious question what would be the issue if she earned 3 times more than me im on 70 a year and shes 200 plus how can i get fucked over. I am in no way thinking of her in just money terms but want to get an understanding on how i could get fucked over.

Thanks

[-] chuckthundercock 1 Point about a year ago

If you inappropriately hugged her or she complains to hr what is your defense? Do you have witnesses that would risk themselves?

[-] richpianoooo 1 Point about a year ago

sorry i worded it word i mean if i am dating a girl and she earns 3 times more than me how would that affect me? is it not that these gold digging sluts want to take everything the man has well what about in this situation?

[-] chuckthundercock 1 Point about a year ago

And if you don’t outrank her? You are likely just fine. Briffaults law and what not.

[-] BokehClasses 1 Point about a year ago

The mrs is already looking at places for us to relocate too where you can still be a man. Note: not the United States or Europe.

Any ideas? I'm interesting in this also.

I’m not a huge fan of mgtow but if there is a version of mgtow that includes whores and sugar babies, I’d advocate for that.

MGTOW are a diverse peoples. Some opt for a celibate monk mode, other for casual sex and dating, and others partake in escorting services. The only similarity is that they don't commit or get married.

They are cool dudes, you would be a fan if you knew them.

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[-] CrackingYs 1 Point about a year ago

Keep women, and work separate. So:

1) Start your own business.

2) Don't hire women. At least not ones who will work directly with or for you. It's too dangerous in today's SJW environment.

[-] be-ay-be-why 1 Point about a year ago

I work with men all day long, (heavy industry), dont have to deal with any of this bullshit. We do have girls that work here but I literally entirely ignore them and dont even look at them.

I have been contemplating getting back into sales but fuck man, now im reconsidering because of all this bullshit. I actually got falsely accused of rape in college so im really scared to touch women in any way now unless I have nudes from her.

I live in LA now and it is fucking terrible. Women fucking RUN this city bro its disgusting. Ive been just laying low, getting text proof before I touch any girl.

[-] purplecabbage 1 Point about a year ago

I work for a 10k employee company. Our office, one of several, has about 2k employees in it. There are many hot girls in different departments than me. Why would it be risky to date them? Especially since I don't work in management.

[-] TheRedPillMonkey 9 Points about a year ago

Because in today's culture, really the culture of the last 6 months, all she had to do is go to HR and say you harassed her and you'll be fired immediately and all your coworkers who once respected you will turn their back on you.

This will happen if you hit on her and she isn't into you. This can also happen if you date a coworker, have a nasty breakup and she's feeling spiteful. Hell, this can happen because you and a girl on your team are gunning for the same promotion or she generally doesn't like working with you.

Girls are very well aware that they will be taken at face value and could absolutely lie and provide no evidence and still ruin a guys life. I literally heard 5 women say those exact words last night. All it takes is one to ruin you and they all know they can and can get away with it.

[-] purplecabbage 1 Point about a year ago

So realistically, the power they have is only as far as the HR department can go? In other words, women outside my organization, such as nearby businesses, lose this power over me since they are in a different company.

[-] TheRedPillMonkey 3 Points about a year ago

When it comes to how this affects your job, yes.

[-] Garathon 1 Point about a year ago

They can still demonize you publicly, on social media etc and this could be enough to lose your job as most companies don't want to be associated with a horrible rapist that once asked for a coffee date.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , If you hate your job, go nuts.

[-] AllahHatesFags 1 Point about a year ago

Don't break frame and apologize for anything; Trump didn't after his pussy-grabbing tape came out and he got elected president.

[-] 1v1crown 1 Point about a year ago

Yeah... about the sugar babies/whores... eventually they will be coming out as victims and those who indulged in their services will be getting fucked next.

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[-] M23W0OH7FV2t 1 Point about a year ago

Avoid working with women period.

And, what white-collar professions would you recommend? Presumably, not finance, right?

Also, you need to remember that the media is going to report on outliers. The vast majority of fields of employ are open to (and have) lots of women in them.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

Also, you need to remember that the media is going to report on outliers. The vast majority of fields of employ are open to (and have) lots of women in them.

The first sentence matches my experience (no one wants to hear about the day the bridge didn't break).

But the (and have) in the second sentence doesn't make too much sense. Have you ever worked in STEM?

[-] M23W0OH7FV2t 2 Points about a year ago

Have you ever worked in STEM?

I'm working as a quant, at a bank, in Denmark, right now. Thank you very much.

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[-] Luckyluke23 1 Point about a year ago

The mrs is already looking at places for us to relocate too where you can still be a man. Note: not the United States or Europe.

don't try Australia either.. sure it's not as bad as the US or EU but they gonna still eat you alive here... best probs in the middle east somewhere... they still stoning people to death there.

[-] red_matrix 1 Point about a year ago

Can you recommend locations and career changes for guys? My current role is in a large transnational corporation, most managers are women, I have a good job (I hate it btw), but it pays well. I have always wanted to leave - I've never felt like I could be myself at work, everyone is fake and I can't stand it. My problem is - where do we go from here? Do I have to leave the US? Is self employment the only answer?

OP - do you have any advice on where we should go? It's starting to look like men can no longer be safe working with women. I've been thinking of getting out for a while.

[-] chuckthundercock 1 Point about a year ago

I think self-employment is the only path forward in the near term, and the most lucrative. Find a team of similarly situated men and land your first big client. You can do this while working in industry in your current position.

[-] banjew 1 Point about a year ago

I dated a girl (not even coworker) that I met at a conference last year, then we broke up (bitch was fucking her boss). Then I showed up in another conference (invited) and she was there too. I didn't even speak to her then.

A year passed. Last week I found out I was sued 3 times for harassment, stalking (yes, she cited that conference that I was invited to speak) and now I have a restraining order. All this without a single proof.

Dangerous times.

[-] VerminatorX1 0 Points about a year ago

Use TRP knowledge to become an alpha in prison.

[-] [deleted] -1 Point about a year ago

So let me get this straight, you are married, work in finance, sleep around and your wife wants to leave the country? ha ha ok, you two must be a real scumbags. I'm glad you're shook though.

[-] chuckthundercock 6 Points about a year ago

No sleeping around but I’ve watched female colleagues make out with strippers then later claim they were offended because inappropriately hugged. How did a feminist sneak in?

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

It is the difference between consent and harassment. It's apart of continual leering and inappropriate comments, then touching on the arm, the back, the thigh, none of this is ok in professional context especially because it could hurt your job to tell them to fuck off.

[-] gELSK 3 Points about a year ago

It is the difference between consent and harassment.

What is the difference between consent and harassment?

This is irrelevant to the chuckthundercock's comment to which you responded.

What does your comment have to do with this:

No sleeping around but I’ve watched female colleagues make out with strippers then later claim they were offended because inappropriately hugged.

Are you really going to say that there are no females who act in bad faith?

What's our defense against them? The courts?

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[-] [deleted] -1 Point about a year ago

It was a consensual kiss with the stripper. The problem is that you do are not privy to the pattern of harassment, how could you be, if its not happening to you.

Also any sort of non consensual touching can be inappropriate...like say somebody behind you in the store for example, even if say she who complained about the hug was not being harassed at every turn with inappropriate touching or romantic overtures, you can tell when something is professional or not.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , Again, you didn't answer my question, and threw in a bonus "You can only understand if you're a woman". Typical. I give up.

[-] [deleted] 2 Points about a year ago

I meant that one is not privy to every interaction the women in this scenario was having with the man in question who gave her what she termed the "inappropriate hugging"

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , So, in a "he said she said" situation, you'd be on the side of the woman, no?¹ Doesn't that just lend further credence to OP's point?

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Time to buy stock in these motherfuckers. That, and Cryptocurrencies.

Anyway, there's this trope that there is no point in arguing with women. "If you have a penis, it's your fault"

I don't agree with that, but there is a portion of the feminist movement that does not seem capable of considering the opposite, or going beyond the typical scripts.

1) surprising just about everyone

[-] chuckthundercock 1 Point about a year ago

Yeah, wish I had another million for every time a drunk associate, colleague, client, hugged me drunk and asked me to take her back to my room and I refused.

My refusal may not be the context, it may be the hug that led to her thinking that I'd fuck her.. Then refusing later made the hug inappropriate and harassment. Go home feminist.

[-] [deleted] 1 Point about a year ago

Your posts are nothing but a bunch of incoherent HR babble.

[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

// , I wouldn't put on your party hat just yet. Male reaction to the spectre of this shit affects women, too.

If you were a man, would you mentor a young, ambitious woman?

If so, whether you agree with OP's reaction or not, you have to consider the how easily she can get you fired even if you act completely appropriately.

I have had to make that choice, and now have to decide whether to ghost a young, female prospective mentee due to this hazard.

Regardless of your answer, there just isn't that question with male peers.

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[-] gELSK 2 Points about a year ago

How is it in the best interest of any women to go about getting some one fired, someone who is helping them nonetheless?

Who are these women who always act in their own best interests, rather than whatever emotion happens to grip them, and where can I sign up to hire them?

Is it in your interest to join a forum about male sexual strategy for the sole purpose of repeating huffpo talking points and childish insults?

[-] coco5440 -2 Point about a year ago

You guys are acting like a bunch of scared little bunnies. The sky isn't falling. Woman are actually fairly easy to deal with at work (much more so than in dating situations). Indeed the two best bosses I've had over the years have both been women. Interestingly the two worst were men.

[-] PallbearerNumber5 3 Points about a year ago

It’s case by case and industry to industry. I was in games, woman fucked or flirted their way to the top and cry to get out of situations. My one and only female boss ended up getting let go along with myself and the whole team because of her incompetence.

[-] gELSK 1 Point about a year ago

// , I, too, have had excellent female* bosses, and some shitty male bosses. There is something to be said for female leadership, especially in the right industry for it.

But are you really going to generalize this to say that there are no females who act in bad faith? Note the pains that OP took to describe his industry, and the female bad actors within it.

What's our defense against them? The courts?

Who are you going to call if one of them decides to not be fairly easy to deal with?

These female bosses were still, however, very female*, and had a different approach, mentality, communication style, and priorities than the high performing male bosses I've had. Because I'm not one of those chauvinists who thinks females should try to act like men, I think this is a good thing. Vive le difference.

Interestingly, only in cases where the female was the TOP boss, without a solid relationship with a male advisor, hatchet man, or cofounder, did we run into problems.

[-] rossiFan -4 Point about a year ago

So if you're fucking your CA and fellow FA's, all I have to say is something I learned a while ago: don't shit where you sleep. If you're so fucked that you have to flee the country, I have no sympathy because that means you've really made some bad decisions in your professional life. But, hey, props on the fact that you've made enough money that your current wife doesn't financially rape you on her way out the door.

[-] chuckthundercock 2 Points about a year ago

I never fucked an employee or client. You didn’t even read the post your blue pill hamster created a narrative. You are part of the problem.

[-] rossiFan -3 Point about a year ago

Yeah, ok. Run away then since you're such a badass.

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[-] Sebassbacchanalia -5 Point about a year ago

Op, you sound like a little bitch during election season. “If my candidate doesn’t win, I’m running away”. Real men stick around and fight

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[-] b0utch -6 Point about a year ago

Hookers and sugar babies? Haha that´s for losers.

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I would recommend hookers over sugar babies

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