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Fulp_Piction 6y ago
This is a comment I put in another thread. It developed in not something cool, so I threw it up here to see how it sounds. Not sure how to format it right on mobile so I've just put it in quotes.
"On a human level you, as a man, respect people for doing man things, you pedestalize great men as examples to look up to and learn from so that you can become great too, so what they say and do has meaning and actually matters. I'm gonna make a judgement here and say that the group of girls in your class do lots of girl stuff, they chat shit, take selfies & look pretty. Not something particularly masculine, but not something inherently bad either. It's feminine, it's the kind of things girls respect and look up to.
If you're invested in what those girls think of you, you pedestalize them. You start to place value and meaning in the way they live their lives, as if the things they think are important actually matter to you, as a man. As if you're going to learn and adopt their behaviour. Sounds like textbook beta behaviour to me."
hereinsteadofgym 6y ago
I'm going to write a post about the importance of watching your media diet. What sorts of books/movies/music/television has helped you?
For me, reading nonfiction books about great figures from history really helps with motivation. I've also been really inspired by Jordan Peterson, Christopher Hitchens, Grant Morrison, Scott Adams, and Carl Jung.
RedPillHanSolo 6y ago
What I see quite often is that dudes think that "their" woman won't cheat if they stay the "best" option, thinking that "bestness" is a 1D concept. In reality, it is a n-dimensional concept. You have n axis of traits along which women range their prospects. Picking the best is simply unattainable, so she will pick along some axis. Given that a probability of scoring the best along all axis is very close to zero, an event of "your" woman cheating is very probable.
Dmva100 6y ago
Right. You would have to be the contextual Alpha in every setting to always be the best option.
magnificent18 6y ago
Hmm
To be alpha in most common settings:
-Be a good dancer when going out -Hold a conversation when talking to people and be confident and act like you know what you are talking about -Be funny -Run your own business, where others run a 9 to 5 -Have more social status “friends” -Display dominance, win at things -Be knowledgeable in being a bro (drinks, sports) -Be knowledgeable in science, trending events, politics -You must dress yourself good -Workout and be in shape -Be good looking (hardest to achieve since this is genetics)
judethedude 6y ago
Hmm maybe the contextual alpha in the most common situations, or situations with the longest durations
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WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
"If it were me, I would have told her to fuck off and go make it someone else's problem." What the hell is stopping you? You said she's sleeping on YOUR couch.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
I think it's both.
Women behave like children, AND the world lets them.
If the world treated women more like it treats men, I don't think they'd wise up and grow up, because taking responsibility for themselves or their actions isn't in their nature.
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RedDespair 6y ago
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I don't like the use of the word "alpha". People, especially young men use the word "alpha" wrongfully. Often to describe themselves. I think it's attached to their egos. The word "alpha" should only be used in describing AABB mating strategy and behaviors that are considered "alpha" or "beta". "Alpha" is something that exists within the female solipsism, and can only attributed by the female mind. It is contextual and based on woman's fleeting emotion at that specific time frame. Calling yourself an "alpha" not only shows that you are thinking through the female imperative, putting the woman as your mental point of origin, but it also puts you into a reactive mindset, always analyzing and editing yourself to appear attractive to the opposite sex. Since it's a construct of the female perception it should almost be insulting to a man to even describe himself as "alpha". "I am alpha" sounds the same as saying "I am man enough".
WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
".....it also puts you into a reactive mindset, always analyzing and editing yourself to appear attractive to the opposite sex." That's commonly known as "gett'n pussy".
nebder 6y ago
I mentally replace alpha with lover/sexuality and beta with provider. They’re two different sets of traits. Maximizing your attractiveness to females typically improves your life in general. Better pay, better physique, cool social hobbies or good logistics to name a few improve your life first and foremost. That does not put you in the female frame. It’s maximizing your returns on life with the side benefit being the women are more into you for having your shit together.
Looks-maxing is highly recommended and one of the easiest SMV bumps. Fix your wardrobe, haircut, scent/grooming and posture. Easy low hanging fruit. That said, gotta know how to socialize and talk with women as well. Looks and game are both important for overall sexual success.
Don’t try to be captain save-a-bro or save-a-ho. Let the black pill looks dudes wallow in their own self pity. Help them if they’re making an effort otherwise they can fuck off.
mental_models 6y ago
From what I've seen looks is overrepresented, and social status (such as alliances) are underrepresented.
To be fair, Lifting is such a universal need, a relatively low learning curve, and can be a base or a building block to game.
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I've been toying with the idea of buying my own semi and buying an even bigger trailer (fifth wheel) and converting it into an off grid palace, basically a homestead on wheels.
I feel like a man's power is rooted in his frame and the ability to recover from normally fatal encounters, whether they be physical, mental, or spiritual in nature.
I remember an experiment conducted on two individuals: 2 empty rooms, both with an annoying buzzing sound that was controlled by a switch. The catch was only one of the switches actually worked. They observed that the individual who could disable the buzzing sound at any time had a calm demeanor in spite of the noise, whereas the individual who had the malfunctioning switch was constantly agitated. In reality, neither switch worked, but the first individual never felt the need to flip the switch; seemingly content with the knowledge that at any time, he could flip the switch and disable the sound if he chose.
I think this illustrates an abundance mentality, but instead of an abundance of women, an abundance of control over one's own life. I feel like individuals on this forum buy into the illusion of safety our modern society tries to push when in reality men have never been more vulnerable.
Basically, now more than ever, it's important to follow the law of power that states to think as you like but act like others.
The alternative is to adopt a MGTOW style Hermitage off the grid. I've often pondered this as a real possibility due to my father's failing health and wanting him to live his life as close to his old school redpill ideals as possible. Raising ducks, goats, doing part time trucking and coming home to the trailer in the mountains with my father and step brother (also red pill aware) and basically resorting to a pack mentality, essentially removing ourselves from society.
If a man's power is his ability to walk away as to not validate women's shit tests, and if we also accept the fact that life is in essence one big shit test in of itself, then it stands to reason that being able to walk away from your life at any time regardless of the outcome is the only way to maintain an indestructible frame.
Just a theory, which I plan to test.
AlexDr0ps 6y ago
A lot of TRP I've read is against having female friends. I have one or two close female friends that I have no interest in fucking. They know me pretty well and have advertised me as an asshole to most of their social circle. Over the weekend, I was with one of them and her friends at a party. Since my friend did the "dirty work" for me, I was able to easily hook up with one of her friends because she already thought I was Chad before she met me. All I had to do was hold frame. Piece of cake.
Is this a popular strategy around here? Any good readings or thoughts about it?
Fulp_Piction 6y ago
Female friends are good, just don't be a doormat.
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I understand completely. My best friend is a female and we have been best friends since high school. She was my "best man" at my wedding and my wife loves her.
She is like a sister to me and I could never see her in a sexual way.
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ShotgunTRP 6y ago
It's a prevention strategy to stop incels and desperados getting stuck in the friendzone.
Bruce Lee — 'Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own'
vwzwv 6y ago
Not having girls as friends is good advice for guys who know they will orbit any girl they accept as a friend. They aren't there yet. For guys who 'are there' in most situations wouldn't want to make a girl a friend anyway.
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I think it's ok if you legitimately don't want to bang them, and the reality is most of us are going to have some female friends regardless of what TRP says to do. I would caution men against believing that these female friends can ever replace legitimate male friendship though, because they can't.
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-Space-Cowboy- 6y ago
I️ disagree with the no female friends mindset, I️ have two roommates who are attractive girls but I️ have no interest in sleeping with them at all because why the hell would I️ want to bring that drama into my place of rest. Their great to bring out whenever we go to a bar or a club because their actually fun to go out with and other women see us having a good time with each other and the preselection kicks in, and boom I’ve got women eyeing me all over the room.
Dmva100 6y ago
Rape victims, especially women. If they get raped it's their fault. 'Woman up' and take some self defense courses. In this age of 'equality' men and women should be acknowledged as the same in terms of physical strength (sarcasm here, but taken seriously in BP), so making women seem like victims just further pushes them into the 'oppressed' corner. If a guy gets raped in college, prison, etc. The same advice would be given 'bro hit the gym/learn how to fight/kill them next time.' But no not with women, theyd rather bitch and moan instead of taking responsibility for their physical fitness, self protection, and decison making. If you get raped, it's your fault.
IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
You're mostly right, but that's not politically correct, even for this sub.
Dat_Black_Guy 6y ago
Idea: For those in the having a hard time exiting the anger phase or accepting women are flawed.
Logic : Maybe you're having a hard time internalizing women by nature just don't click sometime with your logic center. We can sugar coat it by saying, it's alright they are emotionally based. If that's not satisfactory here's a religious (may help if you are, I know that's not popular on Reddit) view I considered during my commute.
God is perfection, he is without flaw, an we as man are a creation of his image, however we are not a creation of his perfection. We as his creation are still flawed despite this being born of him. This is the paradox of the faith, we are imperfect and called to God to try emulate his perfection, however we cannot an he knows we cannot. We can only try, we will fail again, again an again. we cannot do it without him. This is way.
Women are of men's rib, so logically, women are another creation of God but from man. So as far as an hierarchy goes its, God -->Man--->Women. So women are based from a flawed host coming from men instead of God. so logically if we as men as men are flawed and women come from us, they are more so flawed, a multiplied.
So when you're scratching your head, an ask yourself why would she do that, that don't make no god damn sense. Remember their very make up is broken from the beginning, more so than men are ( we cannot forget we are too flawed but they have it worse).
Why is it we can raise empires, nations and create. Yet no such nation of women exist in out history. There are no Amazonians in this world.
Don't fault them, God doesn't fault us because he knows we cant help that. Move on to the next stage.
JamesSkepp 6y ago
Women are only flawed if you measure them by male standards, which is like demanding a dog to be a cat.
And while we're at "flawed" no god so far turned out to be flawless. In fact, most of them is pretty much an epitome of humans projecting their flaws.
Dat_Black_Guy 6y ago
Good point, I suppose if you judge women from the standard of women, they are perfectly fine. However as a man, I can only make deductions. from the outside looking in. Regardless interesting counter point
VanRedPill 6y ago
I got a theory: The more cleavage a girl shows, the less interesting she is?
As an example, at a college bar girls usually wear some cleavage (in my opinion to get attention), however in more upscale venues rather high cut dresses.
Anyone has input on this and if this is roughly appropriate?
JamesSkepp 6y ago
Not true.
The thing is cleavage requires decent sized boobs. Girls that have that, show it. Girls that don't - do the opposite, they "don't show how small their boobs are". Instead they enhance it by padded bras, pushup bras and cleavage covering clothes that give the appearance of having bigger boobs.
IOW the "cleavage showing" is almost always directly related to having something to show - aka decent boobs. In order for this theory to be reliable you would have to first take into account if the girl in question has something to show off or not and then measure if the cleavage is "not appropriate".
/jokenojoke
splodgenessabounds 6y ago
Bettina Arndt: The Politics of Cleavage
VanRedPill 6y ago
Oh well, this sums it up better than what I had in mind. Thanks for sharing!
TooHoly999 6y ago
"Willy Loman Syndrome" (ie thinking others are constantly laughing at you, watching you, and judging your every move) is an unfortunate side effect of the Pill that needs to be countered.
I haven't seen an effective method yet.
splodgenessabounds 6y ago
Maybe they are: after all, we all like a laugh at someone else's expense. Even you.
So, now what?
follow_that_rabbit 6y ago
It's DEFINITELY not TRP side effect.
Looks you are too much in your head, it could be a psychotic episode or worse a psychosis.
Anyway a couple advices and a wake up call:
Lift, go out alone for a walk or a trek to clear your mind, swim, go out on a bike ride. Focus on something: sports, a hobby, learn to play a musical instrument, read, learn new stuff. Spend some alone time doing some of the things above. Spend some quality time with your close family (they don't usually judge if they aren't truly dysfunctional).
Set your mind to think that nobody cares about what you do and they aren't constantly watching you to see if you trip and fall. People don't care about you BECAUSE YOU AREN'T A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE OR SOME KIND OF STAR. YOU ARE NOBODY.
AND IF THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THEM.
REMEMBER IDGAF MENTALITY.
If none of this works seek some professional help because it could be something serious.
Deadlybeef 6y ago
You're supposed to have an IDGAF attitude.
TooHoly999 6y ago
But if you're constantly reading articles on power dynamics and self improvement, it's nearly impossible to have said attitude.
I can't walk into a room and not care about the unconscious power game being played now, for example. It can't be turned off.
midnightrequest 6y ago
Exactly. It is an innate human tendency to detect power plays and compare in your mind to how you measure up to others. It can't be turned off or even if it could be I don't see any benefit in doing so. I think the key is to remain calm and strong as you view your surroundings in a powercentric lens, but doing so would likely require an objective position of power like being the AMOG.
splodgenessabounds 6y ago
So stop reading about it and figure it out for yourself.
As my Sensei used to say before every session: "Practise, please."
Deadlybeef 6y ago
Thinking about something, or being aware of something are 2 different things. Just because you know, doesn't mean it's in your head the whole time.
buddhadarko 6y ago
I think the answer lies in the medium. For instance, you can't be overly concerned about what others might be thinking of you, and you can't be under-concerned either, to the point that you literally do not care about your behavior regardless of who you're around and where you are. You have to practice being in the middle.
At work: You want to care what your bosses think, but you don't want to completely tweak/stifle your personality so that you are not yourself, but instead a watery version of yourself for the sake of pleasing your boss as he takes advantage of you or consistently overlooks you/under-appreciates you. You want to trickle yourself into the mix, and tailor the rest of your personality to fit the environment/person you're dealing with. You can't be work you in a bar and vice versa.
With Women: Trickle your personality in with RP theories/methods. If you're naturally an extrovert, tamper that with introvert/aloofness - and vice versa. If you're naturally quiet, learn how to mix in some extroverted qualities to balance it out. If you're too much of either, you will either attract or repel ones you don't want to. This can be applied to just about any situation in life where your level of consciousness and self-awareness determines how well you are received and you much you excel.
Across the Board/Other Ares of Life: Overall, you have to be self-aware enough to know what your comfort level is of not giving a fuck and giving a fuck. For some, they can push the bar really far with not giving a fuck, and, because of certain personality characteristics that they have learned to be comfortable with, they can get away with certain things that you may not be able to. This is why it's important to really put in the effort and implement RP methods into your life so that you can literally feel what they are like. It's just like driving a car. Sure, you can explain how to do it by watching, but until you actually fucking get behind the wheel and drive a car you don't know what you think you know. You have to get used to the feel of it before you can hit the turnpike and do 80 while finger drumming on your steering wheel.
Don't try to be like someone else because you're skipping steps when you do it that way. Instead, try to understand their behavior (the good parts, of course) and see how you can implement it to work for you. Copying behavior is like getting a sticker versus getting a tattoo - the sticker, while less painful and easy, will stay stuck on you for a while but will eventually wear off from being exposed to the elements and such - the tattoo, while very painful and difficult to endure, will go skin-deep and remain as part of you, instead of a cheap imitation.
You decide which one you want to go with. Quick, easy, and painless, or uncomfortable/painful but fruitful.
johndoperyan 6y ago
This is very helpful, thank you so much for your post
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Meditate.
Lift.
Build frame.
midnightrequest 6y ago
What other methods to clear up mind apart from meditation is recommended? Meditation unfortunately backfires for me - it actually makes me slow and forgetful.
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Cold showers ftw
Every morning, it's like cocaine but it's good for you.
I find that when I take a hot/warm shower and get out of it, I feel cold.
But when I take a cold shower, I feel hot.
hereinsteadofgym 6y ago
I'd love to take cold showers, but I find that they make my hands and feet cold for hours. Maybe I need to improve my circulation?
Times_Seven 6y ago
1 minute hot 1 minute cold in the shower will help blood circulation while simultaneously providing you benefits of cold shower adrenaline release
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MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
I see no evidence for this.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
While I have not seen those particular effects, women on the pill often “feel all the feelings” because their bodies are, from a hormonal perspective, “pregnant”. In some cases, women marry Billy Betas only to come off the pill to have a baby and discover that they have married the “wrong” guy.
FWIW, I have had two women break up with me after going ON the pill, which I have to say I find amusing. Score one for my street cred.
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VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
I'm not a doctor unless you count "witch doctor" but an IUD is an intrauterine device and may or may not have a hormonal component. I think you mean Depo-Provera, which is a shot women take every ~3 months to prevent pregnancy.
I would think that anything that has a hormonal element which mimics pregnancy to prevent ovulation would have similar effects as the pill does, including w.r.t. mate selection, but like I said, I'm not a doctor.
LiveAFTSOV 6y ago
So in theory if your woman gets an IUD birth control pregnancy shot while she's with you and stays with you after being consistent with her shots it's because you're a beta bucks faggot?
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
Not every problem has a binary solution.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Time to learn some beta game bro ;)
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
Lulz, yeah I should hang out at r-hamsters and TBP a lot, get myself some skinny jeans and grow out a man bun. /shudder.
h713281 6y ago
It seems like all of my plates (usually for 1-6 months,1-2 times per week) get a "serious" boyfriend within a few weeks of the last time I decided to see them....does anyone else find this to be the case?
It's like I get them ready to LTR and then another guy steps in and takes on that roll. Is there anything to this?
darksynthwave 6y ago
They might be in the phase of searching a beta provider. When you "split" they go for the better fit for the job.
IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
Every girl I dated immediately married after we break up. So yes, I've seen it dozens of times.
IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
Circumcision is used to alter male behavior, damaging their goods, reducing SMV, encouraging docile, beta behavior, etc.
Those of us who were mutilated as infants should be tearing the city apart, except that the behavior modification WORKS and the walking dead are too passive to resist.
The ultimate aggression in male vs female.
follow_that_rabbit 6y ago
What the actual fuck? How circumcision relates to psychological problems??
IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
That will get you started, but you can basically type your comment into Google and get a million answers.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Agreed it's barbaric to slice up young boy's genitalia.
Can't see how it modifies behaviour though.
tallwheel 6y ago
There is some evidence to suggest that circumcising infants has lasting psychological effects into adulthood.
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
Exactly. Great article! It's giving PTSD to people before they are given tools of language to process the damage. When the only experience you've ever had is someone chopping of nerve tissue that connects to your hypothalamus, well, you end up with people like me.
vwzwv 6y ago
When dealing with women "Don't get angry." This is said a lot. Half of the problem is never discussed though. Each time woman makes you angry they have earned one of your buttons. Then they start pushing your buttons. Maybe you can manage a woman that has 3 of your buttons. If she gets too many buttons you should stop knowing her. Obviously the number of buttons should approach 0 for easiest best results.
Never get angry then woman don't have any buttons to push.
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
I don't think so man. More and more guys aren't playing along with all the hysteria that's going around. They're slowly being forced to swallow the pill that no level of 'submission' to the crazy feminist agenda will ever satiate them. Look at trump being voted in. That was a backlash to this attempt at cultural control.
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I've also seen dark times ahead the likes of which humanity has never witnessed. I feel it's due to our current generations dependence on technology and its inability to be self sufficient in the absence of modern conveniences.
We're one bad day away from the dark ages, essentially.
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dr_warlock 6y ago
Read: Industrial Society and It's Future by Ted Kaczynski.
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I've recently put long term plans into effect to disconnect myself from the grid: a family member is in failing health and cannot support themselves on their disability income alone, which has forced me to undergo this route to insure they don't die alone in a home.
Essentially, an off grid trailer with rain water collection system and solar power setup. I've been living out of travel trailer for a year now and the savings have been extraordinary.
Identify what you need to live: food, water, electricity.
I, myself, am going to setup a duck coop and goat shed on the back of one flatbed trailer, and a vegetable garden on another flatbed trailer.
Handle your shit.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
It doesn't work like this. Women want control over their children and want the man to provide for them so she doesn't have to work. Financial responsibility gets externalised (onto men), while she increases control (over house and children).
If men are at home and women are working, they will NOT be given sexual freedom - they'll have to work hard and will be monitored and shamed into doing so. It's the ultimate beta strategy. Or did you mean the women will get to sleep around freely? That seems more likely, while the man is at home with zero power and zero options (and unlike wives, will not receive state and social support).
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IgnorantGunOwner 6y ago
And at some point the system snaps and we go back to the "drag her to the cave and get her pregnant no matter what she says" days. Looking forward to when we can ignore women again. They evil.
theeaglesdepartment 6y ago
Here is my pet theory. The end goal of the red pill is becoming asexual. You should have the not giving a fuck attitude to a point where you dont care about women. Of course, this is a good place to be at, by why stop there when you can improve further? If you keep hitting the gym and focusing on self improvent you will get to a point where you become completely asexual. This is essentialy the next stage in human evolution. If you know anyone that is asexual you should pretty much worship them and be grateful to know them. Asexual is the alphas true form.
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I am thinking bad to something "Todd Valentine" said, atleast if i do remember correctly. It could also be from anyone in RSD. The sentence being: "You can make everything cool, you just gotta own it."
I got really sucessful the other day by literally breaking all the rules one could break. Anything one does to become better/be seen in a better light by the female gender. Instead of how that would look like, let me rather tell what i did.
I was more emotional than her about all the things. I was insecure about the stuff i said. I even activly admited to it. I was indeceisive and got my feeling up and down like im the fucking girl. I talked to her fully absorbed, giving her all attention for free. She hadn't had to do shit for it.
This stuff seems so wrong, so much like ive done fucked up. But it worked. So could it be that i just so fully stood behind every single fucking line of my character it somehow worked for some odd reason? Or is that girl just a bad apple in the barrel? What does lie behind the stuff being technicially wrong, there still being some sucess.
Gonna try to replicate this. Not listening to any of the stuff i learned whilst owning every single stuff about myself, being real and only staying true to "own values + behaving the way I JUDGE as right". Let's see what happens...
empatheticapathetic 6y ago
How attractive are you? I have a very blue pill friend who isn't crazy attractive but he cleans up pretty well. He does a lot of this blue pill behaviour and it pisses me off that he can get away with it whereas I have to double down on being an asshole just to be acknowledged. The women might give him a lay but they tend to lose interest immediately. He also has a lot of rejection (but anyone putting themselves out there does).
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Not really attractive or handsome tbh
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