Summary: Posted a true story about one of my hookups to Quora, people freaked, called me a liar because they can't comprehend what's possible for men who have it together.
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A while back I answered a question on Quora anonymously because I had just had kind of a crazy experience and I just had to tell someone about it. The question was basically "what's the craziest thing that's ever happened you?"
Basically, the story was this. I was walking home from a bar here in Tokyo after having drinks with a potential business contact. I'm waiting to cross the street when I see this really pretty Japanese woman in a kimono eye fucking me. As we cross the street I smile and say hi. We walk and talk for a few minutes, just basic chit chat and some flirting. I'm following the very very basics: cocky/confident, aloofness, mischievous grin, strategic eye contact. Just having fun really, because I get random girls talking and flirting with me all the time here just for a thrill, so I'm not expecting anything to come of it and just enjoying the flirting. She tells me she's on the way to meet some friends at a bar, so I suggest we meet another time for a drink and we trade contact info. Then she points to a nook next to an apartment building nearby and says, "Kiss?"
So we're in the nook, close enough to the street that I can see people walking past, and we start making out. She pulls her kimono back and pushes my head down, so I oblige and eat her pussy. She gets down and sucks me off for a few minutes. Then she says "That was fun, let's meet again" and we part ways. Literally from "Hi" to oral sex just a few feet from the street within about five minutes. I walked home with a smile on my face.
The thing is, this story isn't all that crazy. I mean, for me it is, and it's something most guys will never experience and it was really cool, but there are much crazier things that happen out there all the time.
So the story got a ton of upvotes from jealous bitter incels and betas who lived vicariously through my story. Quora is full of those types. But then the disbelief starts. My favorite:
It's obvious that this story is fictitious. It's just too good to be true. It is merely fabricated to create a sensation and gather up votes at the expense of the truth. The idea that a Japanese woman would casually engage in promiscuous sex with a total stranger is too unbelievable to be true.
Just stop it already OK? I urge you to delete this answer. This is one of the most disgusting and salacious fake stories I have ever read on Quora. The description of the sexual act is just revolting and degrading. By portraying Japanese women as being forward, and keen on engaging in such repulsive acts, you may mislead people into perceiving them with very negative stereotype. Please stop concocting stories to attract people’s attention for heaven’s sake.
And another in the same vein:
Japan is a modern country. It's hard to believe that a local woman will have sex with a stranger. I strongly suspect this story is just some loser’s sexual dream.
As is so common among beta/omega losers, they've pedestaled Japanese women so hard that he refuses to believe they'd hook up with a random hot guy because they're too "pure" or something. Hardcore white knightery going on here. Other guys whined about the fact that it's "obviously" because I'm white, and it's not fair that they're brown, or short, or whatever, and no woman wants them. The thing is, this sort of thing would have never happened to me just 3-4 years ago. I've put in the work to go from being in a sexless marriage to being a confident, good-looking, socially competent, all-around attractive guy who has banged over 20 women since my soon-to-be-officially-ex-wife.
Lessons Learned
One very level-headed guy finally commented:
Nothing surprising here. Men anywhere who DO have what women want experience women as very forward. They can be worse than men, once that switch is flipped and they go into automatic mode, coyness and clothes are dropped like a hot rock. “I need to be serviced NOW!”
And that comment is the moral of the story. Get past your fucking anger phase and put in the work. Hit the gym, learn how to dress and groom yourself, learn to flirt, hold frame, pass shit tests, and most importantly get busy building an awesome life so that girls become an accessory to it and not the centerpiece.
Do this and you'll be blown away by what's possible. This is not the only "crazy" story I have, not by a long shot. I turned down a super hot, very famous Japanese actress/model a while back because 1) she was too drunk and 2) I smelled BPD on her. I went on a business trip recently and had a super hot girl from tinder at my airbnb within 30 minutes of checking in because she "happened" to be in the area (she knew when I'd be arriving; Tinder Plus is great for travel). Took her out to my favorite bar in that city a few days later and got the "not bad" look from some of the other guys there, and then fucked her all night, some of the best sex of my life with one of the hottest girls I've hooked up with. I've got a few great, loyal fuck buddies/plates in rotation here in Tokyo, with minimal maintenance required. And I've got a cool as fuck job making a product that thousands of people all over the world are losing their shit over. It's good.
And I've seen short guys, brown guys, ugly guys, and probably short brown ugly guys pull hotter girls than I have. So get over that shit now. Girls don't find short guys unattractive, they find YOU unattractive, and you're proving them right and reinforcing it by bitching about it and blaming it on your height. Very convenient to have a scapegoat that can't be fixed, isn't it?
Put in the work. As with so many redpill concepts, this doesn't just apply to sexual success but to life. You have no idea what's possible unless you've put in the work.
Edit: not surprisingly, the bluepillers have picked up on this thread, and they're not believing it either. They don't seem to get that I don't give a shit who believes it and who doesn't. My point in posting here wasn't to convince people that my story happened; it was to illustrate **precisely what they're helping me illustrate**: perfectly unremarkable things are so far outside some people's reality that they simply can't believe it's true. The funny thing is, people who know me wouldn't be all that surprised by this story.
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I just found out that my spring Quantum mechanics class is going to be at 8am. Fuck.
TRPmc117 6y ago
I've been to Japan, and I can 100% confirm your story is true. The women there are frothing at the mouth for masculine influence.
On another note... I'm considering moving there. How'd you manage it?
handfulofnuts 6y ago
My wife got a job here and I got a spouse visa. I'm in the process of divorcing her, and I'll probably switch over to a highly skilled professional visa or something along those lines once it's completed. My company is based in another country (I usually work from co-working spaces and cafes), so I can't get a regular working visa. Much easier to just get a job here. Or if you're from a country that gets visa-exempt entry and can afford it, just come here for a few months and find a job while you're here.
TRPmc117 6y ago
What age are you? Just wondering. I work remote already so the job part isn't a problem.
handfulofnuts 6y ago
Early thirties. Job may not be a problem. It’s the visa.
TRPmc117 6y ago
How long can you stay without a working visa?
handfulofnuts 6y ago
Depends which country you’re from. Google is your friend here.
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oosnakeoo 6y ago
I would be most concerned about the random pussy my mouth was on in an alley lol..
NullIsUndefined 6y ago
yeah lol, people in Japan have STDs too.
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SirKolbath 6y ago
Literally thought to myself, Ookay. OP thinks nothing of rubbing his face into a girl he's known for five minutes who has demonstrated by that very action that she is willing to engage in promiscuous sex with almost anyone at any time. OP best get some blood work done immediately.
I get the point of the story but holy Christ that is just terrifying to comprehend. It's the saying "If she'll raw dog you then she'll raw dog anyone" on steroids. If she'll blow/be eaten by OP in five minutes, then she'll blow/be eaten by anyone in five minutes!
Andrew54321 6y ago
Not exactly.
She’ll do it for anyone that met her criterion like OP did. Clearly not everyone. The hygiene and sanitation point is valid though. Hopefully all OP went home with was that smile.
krefnasterploc 6y ago
Hahaha man exactly. I like a girl who is obviously attracted and is ABOUT to go down on me and then goes ‘I cant’ and makes me fucking work to get it.
‘But that means you’re not alpha enough bro’ wrong I’d rather not date whores and borderline escorts
And worst is id rather not use a condom and barely feel sex with someone I’m not even comfortable with
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This bitch does this all the time.
In the alley a block earlier some dude shot his load all over that pussy. Op just cleaned it up for her.
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handfulofnuts 6y ago
Well it may not have been my finest hour, but nah, she was fresh and clean. Would have been out of there otherwise. Turns out (I met her again a few weeks later) she's just a bored rich housewife.
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timdo190 6y ago
OP probably thinks Japanese women are "pure" or something. But as long as OP got the HPV vaccination he should be good
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handfulofnuts 6y ago
Yeah, nice line. Cribbed straight from my post?
BigThickLongAndHard 6y ago
thx. didn't know about this
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dongpal 6y ago
my first question was if she was shaven down there..
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Tommy_407 6y ago
my second question was, is she a tranny? lol but no good for you op happy you had fun w her
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from my experience with japanaese woman.... almost never.
Schrodingersdawg 6y ago
Context: a lot of Japanese girls will use the term “bitch” to mean slut due to bad translations or something.
My ex-gf who was a foreign exchange student from japan said that only “bitches” get shaved.
Entropy-7 6y ago
Chinese girls, in situ have a huge muff. They have to emigrate or be second gen or have a western boyfriend who teaches them to shave that nasty mess.
The upside is that they taste like pumpkin pie and a bit of "servicing" opens them up to do all sorts of nasty.
TheDevilsAdvokaat 6y ago
I'm an aussie living in China.
I've met two Chinese girls who are naturally bald down there... VERY sexy, very smooth.
But yes, most are quite bushy...
party_dragon 6y ago
“naturally bald”? Does that even exist? How old are they, and do they have hair elsewhere?
TheDevilsAdvokaat 6y ago
One was in her twenties, and she had a full head of nice brown hair (Being asian, no surprise there..oh yes she had no armpit hair either..)
The other I'm not sure..over thirty I think...and yes otherwise normal...
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Entropy-7 6y ago
You get a few who just naturally have a few whisps or a "Hitler Moustache"
LordThunderbolt 6y ago
Damn dude, I'm pretty savage but I don't know about muff diving some bitch wearing nothing under a kimono in dark alley in Japan. You probably tasted that day's hookup. You're such an easy slut OP.
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maplemaximus 6y ago
Quora is where arrogant group thinkers come together and circle jerk. Stay far away from that site.
handfulofnuts 6y ago
It's been a good marketing channel for my business. I've become the go-to expert in my niche because of posting there. Otherwise I wouldn't be there. There are some interesting posts there, but yeah it's full of bluepillers, SJWs, male feminists who apologize for having a dick, smug polyamorists, and such. The smugness is really off the charts.
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kelvin_condensate 6y ago
It has a decent collection of legit answers, mainly in the scientific and mathematical topics, but generally you are correct.
Xtermix 6y ago
They are great at niche questions too.
throwaway1643 6y ago
It's because it has an excess of engineers and scientists who haven't had much experience with dating and relationships.
Go to any random thread on relationships, you'll probably find a nerdy engineer (probably Indian) guy sell the bluepill fantasy of egalitarianism, treat her like a queen, etc.
BigBrotherZiggy 6y ago
Even in topics other than relationships or STEM(the specialty of the stereotypical Quora user). They've got that Silicon Valley mindset that because they're good programmers and think Richard Dawkins is badass their opinion on everything is correct. Arrogant group thinkers coming together is the perfect description. It's like the Big Bang Theory characters thinking they're some wise old man giving people advice when they can't even talk to strangers without trembling(and reading 10 different psychology books recommended by Tim Ferriss)
throwaway1643 6y ago
Dunno man, I think Dawkins is pretty badass, even if his fans are not.
BigBrotherZiggy 6y ago
I was talking about a stereotype, if you don't fit it good for you
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cashmoney_x 6y ago
This is nothing but bragging. Get a diary.
ChadThundercockII 6y ago
Brah, FRs are always doubted here in the Red Pill, let alone in Quora.
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BigThickLongAndHard 6y ago
Glad seeing the redpill getting a darker shade.
ACE-JHN 6y ago
funniest comment i've ever seen.
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
Do you have any contact details for him?? Maybe he can help me out
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AlphaGrad 6y ago
Why is this comment even getting upvoted?
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Just_Isaak 6y ago
As long as her clam didn’t taste like no dog kennel....
Nicktune1219 6y ago
While it may not be fake. It was a random instance that you just hooked up with a prostitute. You loser. You played yourself. You thought you were the alpha-male of the world when you just got some free pussy from some slut taking advantage of you. So you are a beta who fell into a trap and is being over-confident about yourself. Don't get me wrong, that isn't a bad thing, but this is the stupidest thing to be over-confident about.
WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
Lighten the fuck up. I'm in Tokyo too, had my very fair share of Japanese tight chicks, but if I see a cute girl smiling at me and 5 minutes later she's going down on me, I'd fucking feel on top of the world. And you would, too.
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truecrisis 6y ago
I'm in Tokyo too if you ever wanna hit up the bar or something.
Nice to see another redpiller here!
WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
Same here, M24. This place is a dream.
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WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
I worked the shittiest imaginable jobs in the world, saved up €5k and took off. I'm also getting 800 euros a month from the government (I'm from Europe). That covers the rent + minimal food requirement.
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WolfofAnarchy 6y ago
Thanks!
Noo, my European government. It's like a push in the back for people to go study and to do so possibly abroad!
P36hawk 6y ago
My favorite quora thread was the one where jews hamster at how they support europe taking refugees but say that israel shouldn't and they deserve a etnostate.
aDrunkenWhaler 6y ago
The shortest time I ever got from 'Hi' to bangging was about 10 min, with a Japanesse girl. Crazy submissive. She didn't even know English, was just my confidence, making faces and gestures and poking. Easiest lay. Post is not surprising.
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Mine was 13 seconds, from talk to bang.
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kaane 6y ago
This right here is true wisdom. Men who are into PUA don't get this. Those who are successful are the ones who meet the requirements at the right time in the right place with the right attitude.
With a set of learned tactics, you might find a hint of success here and there but it is too much work and is not worth it.
Good post
PipeSupertramp 6y ago
Can someone explain me like if I was 5 why looking back and being able to say one has had sex with smoking hot women is an achievement? Or a goal worth pursuing? I do know this exclusive privilege is one a small percentage of the male population s able to say has access to. But I'm lost, where is the value in being able to brag about that? In the end, just a human instinct was as satisfied, but no mention of any transcendence stuff. Is like bragging about how I ate this exclusive caviar just a handful of people can have and the ones that don't are mediocres that don't put effort in their lives. I respect and admire the guy for his stories, but I don't see the value in proving to others how much one's worth. I may be totally wrong with this, please let me know how. I liked the part about having an awesome life so people get attracted by it. One question: would that life be equally awesome if you had to stay anonymous to the people you know (and the ones you don't, like me, haha)?
handfulofnuts 6y ago
I don't know what the last sentence means. How can you be anonymous to people you know? What are you asking?
Anyway, you have to decide what's worth pursuing for you. I can't decide that for you. If you don't think having sex with hot women is better than fucking uggos or average chicks, then maybe for you it's not worth pursuing. But personally, I don't do it so I can brag (I have only a few people in my life I talk about this stuff with). I do it because for me it's way more enjoyable and satisfying to fuck an 8 than a 6, all else being equal. Exponentially more so. I don't consider it an achievement, I just think it's a lot of fun.
And it's not because "mediocre people can't." I don't believe that for a second. Look, SMV is like a bell curve. You've got the vast majority of people somewhere in the middle, and very few out at the tails. The outliers on the left side are going to have a hard time no matter what, but most of them can still significantly improve if they want. But we're talking about the bottom 1% of men here. The outliers on the right side have it super easy, but again, we're talking about the top 1%, the 9's and 10's. I'm maybe an 8, up from a 5 or 6 a few years ago. People see old pictures of me and can't believe it's the same guy. But there are better looking guys, and taller guys (I'm 175 cm/ about 5'9"), and guys with better bodies (I've still got a bit of fat on my stomach, but not much). But who cares?
There also seems to be a power law sort of thing at play, too. For every point up in SMV you go, your sex life gets that much better. Twice as good maybe, or exponentially, who knows. And if you're starting from just being a regular dude, you can easily move up three points by getting your shit together. I'm an American, and most American guys 1) are fat, 2) dress like shit and their hygiene and grooming are lacking, and 3) lack social skills. Each of those things is huge, and fixing them can take you from a 5 to an 8. Or a 3 to a 6. Imagine how much better the sex life of a 6 is compared to a 3. A charming 6 can pull cute girls. A 6 with real game can pull hot girls (I admit I don't really have game; I rely on looks and wit). A 6 with game and a redpill mindset can do very well. And for the vast majority of guys, being a 6 or above is well within reach, if you just put in the work. Add in high social status (which also takes work) and you can be banging supermodels. But you have to put in the work. Assuming it's worth it to you. If it isn't, I can't relate and I'm not sure what you're doing on TRP.
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I'm a really hot guy, and I don't get laid much. Of course, I have multiple severe mental illnesses and hate society, prefer being in the woods or traveling. I hate materialism and owning shit, and have a super high standard of asceticism and mental strength.
So who knows. You can be a hot dude with high SMV and not get laid.
PipeSupertramp 6y ago
Dude first, thanks for your insightful reply. About the anonymity part my point was the final objective on TRP seems to be focused in looking for society approval (what you describe as high market value is for me = be desired by woman, envied by man). That, I can't relate because though banging a perfect ass and perfect tits is super fun, is also super unimportant. The roundness of the ass, and the symmetry of the tits is what beauty is told us to be, not what it really is, in my opinion. What did call my interest is the Spartan like mindset of being focused, maximum effort, inner growth, confidence and social intelligence. That for me is kind of the soul of this subreddit, but I might be wrong, I just looked it up yesterday. To conclude, is useful to read about how people is interested in improving and testing their limits, and the grit that takes to get there, awesome! And learning about social intelligence, God knows I need that one, haha. However, I keep thinking that if the main goal and motivation of all these is banging hot girls, then most might end pretty depressed when they experience that for a while, because it lacks transcendence and meaning. Now, you can say that if I want transcendence I might be looking in the wrong place, and you might be right. In any case, I'll just take what sees useful for me and omit what's not. And leave the comment as a cautionary flag of not letting this PUA thing become a religion that worships the self above all else. There's not where happiness resides. I'd be glad to know more insights about the subject from you or anyone else. Best regards.
handfulofnuts 6y ago
You're on the right track. It is unimportant. Stick around and read, and if you go deep enough you'll find that TRP isn't about banging hot girls. It is, because it's about sexual strategy, but that's just the surface; it goes much deeper than that.
My motivation in life isn't to bang hot girls. That's just one (very fun) aspect of the life I'm building, and not the most important one, not by far.
throwaway1643 6y ago
If it's not obvious by now, you should have realized that quora is the hivemind of beta males.
Full of nerdy, feminist, engineers and scientists. Not that it's a bad thing in itself, but they don't have a clue how reality works in sex and dating.
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Yeah, you figure dudes that could do engineering classes could figure out the red pill. It's a hell of a lot easier than some of the classes they took.
I personally said fuck it, and am working on self improvement while I finish college, so I can vagabond and thru hike around the country for a few years.
RompeChocha 6y ago
What's BPD? I'm thinking Blue Pill something, don't know what the D stands for.
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ArabSigma 6y ago
Bi-Polar Disorder. It looks like the glossary needs to be updated.
Edit : It turns out it actually stands for "Borderline Personality Disorder".
[deleted] 6y ago
Societies suppression of the masculine in willing men is getting intense.
These thirty and deprived 'nice guy' betas are going to fucking snap one day. You wonder why we have school shootings and wackos emptying clips into strangers below their hotel room? It's an outburst due to being wound so fucking tight.
Can you actually imagine desperately believing women are angels like the dudes replying to ops post? It's fucking sad.
I just don't wanna be around when the next generation of tightly wound betas start snapping en mass.
plainposter 6y ago
you're already around.. look at Antifa
IkWhatUDidLastSummer 6y ago
You arent talking about the same type of guys. These betas will never ever take what they want, they will never say no, they will never take action. They let the world run over them, including women. Have u seen betas in relationships? Jesus christ, if you havent, watch from the sideline and see all the bullshit they are willing to put up with, all the irrelevant garbage they never gave a fuck about that they suddenly care 'so much about' because their girlfriend cares about it. Its absolutely mind boggling. Its honestly almost more mind boggling why people put up with this BS from women than as to why people are religious. And women are still unhappy lmao.
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How do you know these mass shooters are beta?
If women couldn't get boyfriends, and they started killing innocent people, would you encourage men to change for her or tell her to change?
plainposter 6y ago
You probably got herpes bro.. go get checked in 3 weeks.. takes 3 weeks to really show up on a test if you've got it
fromthecrypt8 6y ago
I’m probably gonna read this post more than once. You just made me realize I still got a foot in anger phase.
Entropy-7 6y ago
Any guy who has it together will have a few crazy stories. Lord knows I have a few but but I only share them in context when they are relevant to a topic of discussion.
But yes, put some work into yourself and stop bitching.
OTOH, OP is in Japan and I am in China: Fish? Barrel?
Friendly_Friends 6y ago
I don't quite agree with that idea. I have met plenty of guys who get nothing in Asia. One beta even tried to steal an LTR of mine years ago in Korea (and failed miserably) because he just had no game or personality.
I also don't like when local males in Asia tell me I am lucky because I am white. I have a red-pilled alpha Korean friend who pulls constantly in Asia and elsewhere. The difference between him and the general male population around him is he doesn't hate, cockblock, or get jealous, and nor does he find that Korean women are any more interested in white men. Too, I have been rejected multiple times in Asia because there are plenty of women who want nothing to do with foreigners.
Entropy-7 6y ago
Oh the dirty little secret is that most Chinese girls don't want a white guy as a boyfriend, but by sheer weight of numbers (like, 200 million 20-somethings) white guys have a fairly easy time of it.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 6y ago
Don't count Korean males as typical Asian. They supposedly get govt. encouraged HGH therapies and enhanced food to get taller. 195 cm guy would not even get any looks in Korea
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washington_breadstix 6y ago
I don't have a hard time believing that a western white dude got laid easily in Japan. East Asian women throw themselves at us white American men, or so I've heard.
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That's definitely not even a crazy story.
Kind of weird that so many people don't believe something like that is possible and then actually attacked you over it. Bizarre.
Also, the fact that Japan is more modern makes it MORE likely for women to be sluts. Not sure why those fools think differently. Again, bizarre response.
RedwallAllratuRatbar 6y ago
You may be missing on some info here
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What is your advice to someone who wants to move to japan in about 6~8 years (I'm still in university, and want to make some money before going)?
Thanks.
WalterEArmstrong 6y ago
Wait 6-8 years and move to Japan.
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freethinker1976 6y ago
I have some interesting stories that I don't tell people simply because I know they will call me a liar. I'll just keep the memories for myself.
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ahoooley 6y ago
Lul this shit is too funny thanks for the read op
Imagine actually believing this event took place ???????? straight out of a weebs diary
DF-RP 6y ago
Having lived in the country for a while, I have no doubt that similar things have happened. Whether the particular instance of OP is true, I do not care, but I've experienced things on similar level and witnessed even crazier things.
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