Found an alpha in the family (why belief is everything) | TheRedPill

Forums.Red / TheRedPill / Red Pill Example

zeussingh

Posted 6y ago in Red Pill Example - Permalink - Locked - 619 Views

Note : Alpha mindset not 100% alpha. He is very thin and that is not a trait fo alpha male. People are getting confused with that. Just focus on the mindset and composure

After reading so many weird comments - wanted to add this.

I feel like most of the people here get too engrossed in proving that the story is made up and miss the point here. I shared this to show that just a firm belief in yourself will take you places. And fake it till you make it will work, just have to repeat things in your mind so often that it forgets that is not a reality. Confidence alone could be a very strong foundation to build upon. If story doesn't resonate with you, feels fake and you cant take a lesson, just move on, read the rest of the community post, great stuff present there

Recently remembered a situation involving a close family member. It didnt make sense before, but after reading the red pill it all makes much more sense. I will share it with you all and its open for discussion. Now he is not exactly red pilled ( he never reads) or 100% alpha. he has his flaws which i will discuss in another post. Everything he learned he learned the natural way or by instinct.

My cousin( lets call him Z , i treat him like real brother), back in India, now 24 yrs old, good looking, extremly thin( strong wind might move him ),58-62 kgs, 5,11'.

I saw the changes in him a couple of years ago(5 ish) when all of a sudden he started believeing he is extemely good looking. Where did that come from. I assume external validation from a lot of girls. I am 5 years older than him so i didnt even care. To me he was still just a kid who is just too arrogant about his looks for no reason. The changes i saw in him over years. Paying attention to his looks ( a little too much ), not listening to anyone and forming a friend circle the family didnt approve of.

The girls were already giving him too much attention as well all observed. But the whole family was against him.

Incident over the years :

overHeard story (not witnessed) but confirmed by multiple people(dialogue is important because it shows the attitude and composure): Was in the last year of high school. He was standing alone by the side of the road, Two big guys (X and Y) (from nearby college) came by on the bike. One got off the bike and slapped him hard. The juice in the hand spilled. Z stopped to breathe and to get out of the shock of the smash.

Z : Can you buy me a new one ?

No response from the guy. They began to walk away.

Z : why you hit me ? ( He says in his mind he was thinking the guy >might be related to (brother,cousin) one of the girls he screwed in the >past )

X : No reason. Just felt like it.

Z : Felt like it ? That doesnt make sense.

X: It doesnt have to. Didnt like your attitude and you are pretty easy >to slap, I have the power .

Z : Power?? Alright. Are you local (from the city)?

X : No. I am X. I rule the XYZ college nearby. And you will be dealing > with me a lot.

Z : Do I know you? Have we met before ?

X : Next time dont show your attitude. ( Walks away )

Z was still calm. As they took off. Made a phone call to a friend. ( As i mentioned he started forming a friend circle, which was huge, and family didnt approve of that, you will see why )

Z : This and that happened. When are you free? How many people are free ?

fast forward 2 hrs. There were 4 4x4s filled with around 30 people driving towards the college

The security guard doesnt stop anyone ( well he is one guy and they are 30 ). Enter the hostel. knocked down his door. Soon there were 7 hulk sized guys standing in his tiny dorm room.

Z in front : Tell me why you hit me now ?

X ( now scared knowing he has to say something ) : you stole my girlfriend .

Z ( now bit understanding ): Your girlfriend.. Whats her name ?

X : M

Z : M never mentioned you . Call her . Let me talk to her.

X : I dont have her number

Z : Calls her. You are on speaker. I am with X. Do you know X ? He says you were her girlfriend.

M : No. He has been staking me. But i dont know him. (X face confirms the story as he didnt say anything)

z puts down the phone. And slaps the guy twice. So did the rest of the people once. When they left the guys face was twice the size. Came home. Was popular in the college and the whole city the very next day.

Now i understand that you all think this is an overheard story, possible altered to flare with drama, and he has a backup of 30 guys, so hardly anything alpha in it. I thought the same way but I have an eyewitness story that I will share later which confirms the above behaviour.

I keep thinking myself why i didnt spot this behavior? Why i was repulsed by it? And why everyone in the family was so keen to opress it?

After reading the red pill, i guess i understand it all much better. He had the attitude not to react to severely to the situation. Stay calm. Both when he was alone and even back at the dorm room he was still understanding and not rushing. Its a very powerful quality to not be too reactive and very much alpha.

I even understand now why IDGAF attitude makes women crazy. Why just his belief that he is entiteld to everything and doesnt owe anyone anything led him to a new journey one would not normally take. He had HB10(well educated, smart and intelligent) throwing themselves at him left and right. He doesnt even give shit about HB8 HB9's And mind you he doesnt even have a proper college degree.

Never questioned before if the social norm in which a male child is raised nowadays destroys the natural alpha in him ? I can now almost guarantee that it does.

Not well at formatting and writing this in the office ( had some time) . Will do better next time.

Permalink

Aazaad 6y ago

This story isn't that far fetched. It is part of the culture in the sub continent to have whole gangs, mostly affiliated through political parties at colleges and universities. You mess with the wrong person and he can call up 20 people easy.

I am not saying that makes him alpha necessarily. But think about it. When you know you've got so many people at your back, it boosts your confidence of dealing with people.

TheRedPillRipper 6y ago

u/zeussingh ask Z what the price for having so much muscle on tap?

forming a friend circle the family didnt approve of.

I wonder why? Sounds like he's gotten in with a crew(gang) somewhere along the line.

all of a sudden he started believeing he is extemely good looking.

Usually doesn't happen overnight but it is possible. More likely there's a reason his confidence is skyhigh(when you're in with a crew it can feel like the top of the world) and womyn are tuned to pick up on that.

zeussingh 6y ago

He is just charismatic in talking and making friends. The family didn't approve because they didn't know the guys all that well. Here Its always the case when the guys are not from school and they don't live nearby. The all of sudden part happened when he adopted a very different hairstyle which got him noticed way too much (imagine a very conservative society). More attention from women triggered the good looking part.

[deleted]

indivisibleremainder 6y ago

i read this in an indian accent

[deleted]

zeussingh 6y ago

Try raj from TBBT if you want to make it even funnier. :)

[deleted]

Doom_and-Gloom 6y ago

Z : Can you buy me a new one ? No response from the guy. They began to walk away. Z : why you hit me ? ( He says in his mind he was thinking the guy >might be related to (brother,cousin) one of the girls he screwed in the >past ) X : No reason. Just felt like it. Z : Felt like it ? That doesnt make sense. X: It doesnt have to. Didnt like your attitude and you are pretty easy >to slap, I have the power . Z : Power?? Alright. Are you local (from the city)? X : No. I am X. I rule the XYZ college nearby. And you will be dealing > with me a lot. Z : Do I know you? Have we met before ? X : Next time dont show your attitude. ( Walks away )

Ya'll from Maine? 'Cuz it sounds like y'all live in a crappy Stephen King novel.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

A 12 year old Indian boy sharing his power fantasies.

This comunity has really gone to shit.

One_Pernt_Five 6y ago

More trolling, yada yada yada. Boy you are fucking useless for anything other than being a douchebag.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

lmao "yada yada yada, ya´ll, douchebag" and im the one with the lack of vocabulary you fucknig hilllbilly

I had to lean your language and have read more poets in it than you, as I said, pretty pathetic and disgusting

dont ever bother keep answering, I wont do the triggered thing to get into an argument about your post history

One_Pernt_Five 6y ago

This would mean more if you used proper punctuation. It's hard to talk about being smarter than someone else when you can't spell or punctuate for shit. The larger point is that your entire Reddit persona seems to exists to criticize others. You contribute nothing of substance, and that is sad. So again, BYE FELICIA, go about your disgusting little habit of trolling people, pathetic shit.

[deleted]

Trooper_1868 6y ago

learn how to spell community....

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Keep defending the post pajhitlover scum.

Trooper_1868 6y ago

you have some deep inferiority complex mate. You should get that checked. There are other cultures in the world besides your own.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Your comment only shows how disgustingly basic you are.

Your cookie cutter copie paste phrases mean shit to me and only further my disgust for your ordinary ass.

If anything I have a superiority complex you stupid stupid fake psychologist. Also I play carnatic classical music and admire plenty of ustaads.

It is the disgusting weak charred short phajets that disgust me, so you can keep defending the post and saying those who dont agree must be insecure themselves to save face but know I respect much more the shit that comes out of my dogs asshole than any that could come out of your mouth.

One_Pernt_Five 6y ago

And you have a pretty limited vocabulary at that. I've noticed a recent trend of those who have a superiority complex to also be not so "blessed with the gift of words" as our current President would say. You sound like Trump (and this, if you are unaware, is the ultimate insult). "You're disgustingly basic, stupid stupid fake, disgusting (again), something something poo poo".

Just quit commenting, it's obvious with just a little bit of research that we're dealing with someone lacking the mental capacity for even intermediate reasoning.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

I see you do not understand the concept of an alt account or a troll account.

Like you said I am not trying to add to your comunnity, why would you think that or encourage me to?

I hear basic coments like yours everyday meant for all sorts of music, not only hiphop, but when for example I read that indian music sounds like wailing and moaning I cringe because as you can read in my poor vocabulary in the former comment, I play carnatic music. I also play the djembe and will often hear people referring to africas artistic culture as inferior monkey bussiness which also is cringy.

hearing uncultured people who want to have an opinion like yourself by parroting terms like mumble rap is physicaly cringy to me as a young musicologist who apreciates hip hop as much as any other music you would consider high cultured,so yeah, I call people like you disgusting swine on my troll account so my main account wont be spoiled my aspergian frustration at ordinary people like yourself

Also I am not from the USA, trump is not my president and I speak 3 languages english not being my mother tongue, so please dont flatter yourself too much on your reddit detective psychology work disecting how I am really only a troll looser with poor vocabulary.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Also yeah, im extremely high in disgust sensitivity and obsesive with cleanliness and achievement, so I will express my disgust at you common folk how ever much I like.

One_Pernt_Five 6y ago

Did you say you went to a conservatory or something which is for poor people? Not that it matters, I'm not an elitist or anything of the sort. But I can't help but notice that you say one thing and then something totally different in the next breath. You really are a piece of work, and not in a good way. Also, again, punctuation dickhead.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Hey man, I cant blame you for being so proud in your punctuation as you´re a 35 yo looser on reddit,

I dont know if your nephews have told you this, but most young people dont bother with impecable punctuation on the internet;

you better keep digging if you want to hurt my feelings, calling me felicia again and again and criticizing my punctuation wont get you anywhere.

[deleted]

accounttoarguewith 6y ago

If you aren't already, you are destined to be a very sad and lonely person.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Jesuschrist youre 34 and say things like "what hand he has cramed up his ass" and defend this obvious power fantasy

Like I said

D I S G U S T I N G

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

I really love these comments telling me ima virgin sad lonely and stupid

It almost mkes me want to show you a picture with my gf playing at a concert ,not for my ego, but so that you realize that not everyone who disagrees wih you online is a dumb virgin troll you can just discount

So that you realize that if only for this once its you who are the stubborn imbecile

accounttoarguewith 6y ago

I have no problem believing you have a girlfriend. I’m just skeptical that such a horrible person as yourself could maintain a long term relationship. I suppose you could be an expert in deceit, which would help you, but it doesn’t really change the fact that you are awful.

Lvl100Nirvana 6y ago

Jesuschrist youre 34 and say things like "what hand he has cramed up his ass" and defend this obvious power fantasy

Like I said

D I S G U S T I N G

accounttoarguewith 6y ago

I have no idea what you’re trying to say.

[deleted]

Unnormally2 6y ago

This reads as a ThatHappened post.

zeussingh 6y ago

I dont know what that means...new to the community.

[deleted]

Unnormally2 6y ago

So ThatHappened is another subreddit that I cannot link to. Basically, when people come up with really interesting stories that follow a certain structure that makes them seem fake. It's plausible you are being truthful about this example, but it does sound unlikely. Especially the part where he gathered up 30 people, stormed this guy's place and engaged the slapfest.

zeussingh 6y ago

Ahh okay. Thanks for the info. And i can understand why people might think that way, its a huge cultural gap and to be honest even i was skeptical as well when i heard it. But after like 6-7 guys confirm it and you hear the same from a shop owner, i found it plausible. And as i said i have an eyewitness account of another story i will share later which made me convince the whole part. Also such cases are a norm in north India.

Unnormally2 6y ago

Also such cases are a norm in north India.

That's also fair, I'm looking at it from a American cultural lens.

destraht 6y ago

In America it would be six buddies max. Probably two or three.

leotard-princess 6y ago

It sounds like fucking utter bullshit bro. It all was just so almost believable up till the bit where you claim everyone had a slap on this dude's face. It's like this comedy skit in reverse.

I call shennanigans on this turdy post.

[deleted] 6y ago

This happens very very regularly in India. No Indian would bat an eyelid. It's frequently depicted in our movies as well. But usually, they get like a handful of tough guys. 30 is a lot

zeussingh 6y ago

Its called venting. If you are not getting enough pussy and had to leave all the chores, drive 20 km to be some place and not even get to hit the guy (when few people already did). it sounds like all waste and you have nothing to tell for the story or let out the anger. Understanding the mindset yet ? And i think i didn't write properly, my bad. I meant everyone else who were in the room. The people outside would have to manage anything coming from outside.

-1

leotard-princess 6y ago

Just when you thought the tunnel of bullshit could not descend any further.

What would it take for you to relinquish your endless lies? You sound about 15 years old. Fuck off.

destraht 6y ago

You do know that they generally don't get pussy in India right? Its probably an exaggeration. I could actually believe twelve guys. A few brothers, a few cousins and then their friends. Nothing better to do and almost no chance of getting laid. That sucks when you haven't been laid much.

zeussingh 6y ago

What are you a kid, sitting in your moms basement, wearing pink jamies, unicorn horn and calling yourself princess ? Have you ever been in a fight ?

leotard-princess 6y ago

you missed out the vibrating butt plug and the diamante puppy collar, n00b...

LateralThinker13 6y ago

Good for him. Cool story, bro.

leotard-princess 6y ago

It was like the coolest story ever. And it really happened. And when it was over we all went with Harvey Weinstein and fucked actresses and the magic HB11 unicorns for all eternity. Everyone lived happily ever after except for the feminists whose vaginas went sour as they hit the wall and turned into dead frogs.

[deleted]

Rollo_Mayhem3 6y ago

Psychology rules. The physical is usually a manifestation of you're psychology. Lazy ass bitches over time look like shit

Metalgear222 6y ago

Or you know.. Lift so people think twice about slapping a stranger in the face rather than rallying the entire cities population for a pointless slap-fest. Just a thought.

108

[deleted]

Dilfy 6y ago

Everybody seems to quickly jump on the lifting bandwagon here. And while I agree, building body strength is definitely important - knowing basic self defense or a martial art is important too. If you’re going to lift, you should also learn how to fight. Carrying (and property knowing how to use) weapons can also go a long way in situations like this.

[deleted] 6y ago

This is a display in social power taken to extremes. No matter how much you lift, you can't fight 30 kin.

leotard-princess 6y ago

*No matter how much you lie...

FTFY ;p

TheRealMewt 6y ago

There's more to having power than just having big muscles, mate.

When you can have a mob of supporters at the ready to fuck someone up because they looked at you funny... That's a kind of power no amount of barbell can give you. That's the power of influencing others.

stonerninja93 6y ago

kind of power no amount of barbell can give you

You wouldn't dare slap someone like Kai Greene would you?

But yeah, given the context of India. It'd be more alpha if 'Z' showed up with the city SP instead of 30 thugs.

Metalgear222 6y ago

I'm saying the entire thing would of been avoided if he lifted. That's all. I read the post, I know what happened. He still got punked and had to run for help to solve it.

1by1is3 6y ago

I'm saying the entire thing would of been avoided if he lifted. That's all. I read the post, I know what happened. He still got punked and had to run for help to solve it.

I think you don't understand how it works. I come from Pakistan, and lifting won't help you jack shit if some powerful guy wants to fuck with you. A short manlet can fuck you up because he has 30 guys behind his back and no amount of muscles are going to help you. Infact, you would not even want to mess with someone who has more powerful connections than you.

Also, people are quick to pull out weapons, and not afraid to kill you if you escalate. Lifting, won't save you, and even if you carry a weapon yourself, even that won't save you for long if you mess with the wrong person, you are fucked pretty much because they will hunt you down.

This is the power of the many. In most societies, you need to influence a large group of powerful to have any real power, power that no amount of muscle will give you.

[deleted] 6y ago

[deleted]

xeneize93 6y ago

Yep work with a guy the size of a bear but the softest chin, dude got mauled by some guy he tried.

Metalgear222 6y ago

Minority cases can't be used to support arguments. 99/100 being jacked will deter people from walking up to you and slapping you. Period. Why are we even discussing this.

Raii-v2 6y ago

A real badass won't give a shit about you being huge, especially because guns and knives > barbells.

But that's not really the point here

lusdee 6y ago

How is it a minority case? Pound for pound, a heavier fighter has an obvious advantage but that's assuming their skill level is the same. In the street, the 70kg guy who is mma trained will be competitive with the 92 kg juice head who has never sparred in his life.

Being bigger will mean that less people will ever try to fuck with you or intimidate you. But in a lot of cultures, people can be quite ruthless and I think how you present yourself in your surroundings and communicate with people will be a large factor in randoms trying to intimidate you.

Also the group mentality is relevant here.. Even 20 children could overpower a 100 kg man who a black belt in Brazilian ju jitsu.

Do you think if this guy was 15-20 lbs heavier a bunch of men are going to suddenly be afraid ? Sounds like the area might not have been so friendly, you know in places of poverty people are willing to risk a lot more right... you can't just flex your way out of things every time

accounttoarguewith 6y ago

Interestingly enough, sometimes being bigger will cause MORE people to fuck with you.

[deleted]

fromthecrypt8 6y ago

It could be an exceptional case in the sense that someones motivation for slapping a jacked dude will likely have to be quite abit higher than if the dude is skinny af. I agree that size does not mean too much if someone is crazy or capable enough to fight well, but I'd say that their threshold for slapping a stranger as a general rule is lower when someone is skinny as fuck. The potential cost is higher with a jacked dude. I think that's what's the guy over here meant.

FuckMichaelMcCoy 6y ago

zeussingh 6y ago

Well... not really. I wish it was that easy. You have to imagine it happening in India and not the western world. You don't involve cops here for slaps. Unless someone broke your leg or opened your head with baseball you don't involve cops. Sometimes not even then. India would be much safer if cops did what they are supposed to do. :)

[deleted]

Mapispema-ta 6y ago

He’s no Alpha if he doesn’t lift.

zeussingh 6y ago

Agreed. Physical fitness is a major characteristic of being alpha. And i mentioned that he is not a true 100% alpha. What I am emphasizing is that he had the attitude of being an alpha, just because he believed he is one. Just a strong belief alone will make you push to the limits and let your mind and body adapt due to it. It was to emphasize more on fake it till you make it as well. I think most people missed the point or maybe i didnt write it that well. :(

[deleted] 6y ago

You need to re-phrase "why does he feel entitled..." to how does he benefit that group. Alphaness isn't about the me myself and I, its about the we. Or I have a degree I should be in charge. Your college degree only benefits you in a commercial exchange, it doesn't benefit the group unless its an expertise they need.

Those thirty people didn't show up just because he ordered them to. They showed up because he asked them to help their leader and they showed up for their own benefit/motivation as well. The followers get rewarded in some way, like a big bump in status locally for backing his play.

Groups follow leaders in a mutually beneficial exchange. If an alpha is not rewarding you it's because you are not a follower worthy of being rewarded but a punk biatch to be exploited for the groups benefit. Now when pretty boy stops benefiting the group, the group finds a new leader. Now young people base their leadership choices on looks attitude etc... as you get older skill and judgement get come into play.

zeussingh 6y ago

Well in a way. But the only thing I can think of that he can provide is social status. In this part of the world ( maybe like the rest as well ) you get a lot being with a guy who everyone is drooling over. Maybe he could hook up other friends with friends of his gfs/plates but other than that i dont think of much. He is however interesting person to talk to, can help you look good and develop an attitude that you will need in the world and help his friends in any way he can. I guess that counts.

[deleted] 6y ago

yes it counts. Scratch under the surface of culture humans are the same all over.

That's how leadership works. It benefits the group, the group rewards the leader to a certain point to what is socially acceptable as fair. The leader rewards his followers to what is socially acceptable as fair. Take it too far or the leader fucks up this can collapse very fast. People look to a new leader.

Red pill alphas are not leaders, that have a lot of the same behaviors and attitudes. How ever they do not benefit the group so people don't like red pillers much. Much the same way your elders seem to not like this golden boy too much, they do not see his alphaness and leadership as benefiting their larger group.

TunedtoPerfection 6y ago

This didn't happen, it sounds like some stupid high school fantasy about the geek getting back at the jock.

It fell apart where the big bad alpha dude with "the bike" becomes an instant worthless beta because some chick said he was stalking her on a speakphone call. So embarrassed by the judgement of this female he becomes powerless and driveless to stop the onslaught of slaps?(fuck off) from the entire 4x4 community of said city.

Not only that but the emerging hero's story was spread across the campus and city instantly (like a video game) and the world cheered to great applause of said hero!

P.S. you forgot the part where the bullies heart grew 10 times that day... or was that the Grinch? fuck getting my fiction confused again.

zeussingh 6y ago

haha ...Try visiting India. You will find the line between fiction and non-fiction really blurry there. Believe me ;)

deephurting666 6y ago

30 people to come to his aid? Thats not alpha thats pussy! And I smell curry shit with this thathappened post..

GOR098 6y ago

His power was not in his muscles but in his connections & he used it. If he had been a pussy, he woud have been scared to act due to fear of authorities or atleast woud have hidden behind the gang instead of confronting the othe guy himself

Trooper_1868 6y ago

Whats pussy about using resources that you have at your disposal? Any gang leader would do the exact same thing. You think Capone didnt have any underlings?

Suppose you lift. But the other guy has 9 friends plus him who also lift. You going to show up to intimidate them by yourself? if your answer is yes, then your delusional.

Most redditors come from middle and upper middle class US or Europe. That's why they have a disconnect. The cost of violence goes up the more assets you have so we tend not to do it.

Now I spent time in the deep trailer park south so that's what I'm familiar with personally, them country boys fight for fun and rep. Fuck with the wrong dudes girl and you may be getting beat down, not because she's worth fighting for but to protect his rep.

CashFrags 6y ago

Read this whole post with an Indian voice in my head. Made it so much more entertaining.

zeussingh 6y ago

Yupp... Others have done it as well ... which one did you pick ?:)

AncientScrolls 6y ago

One got off the bike and slapped him hard. The juice in the hand spilled. Z stopped to breathe and to get out of the shock of the smash.

I wouldn't be able to handle my rage and carefully plan a counterattack as your cousin did with this guy. If it was me as soon as somebody else slapped me I would punch his face.

zeussingh 6y ago

Thats the normal way. I think i would be shaking for quite some time in similar situation. But i have seen him, he is always so calm, and one good thing he knows his flaws very well and doesnt act against them.