This is definitely not for validation or approval. I wanted to share something about the event all week because it really struck a nerve and I needed a sort of catharsis with a community that understands (I shared with a few friends but you can't expect people not in the community to understand beyond "wow she does seem crazy"). My hope is to get out a bit of the tension that resulted and hopefully encourage people that do not have this experience yet to prepare themselves. I waited a while to make sure my intentions were clear before doing so, and tonight I felt confident with those intentions and decided to get it out in writing
*TL;DR: ONS from several weeks ago showed up uninvited "in the neighborhood". Tried to inject herself into my plans or get me to join hers. She didn't take a hint. Gave her "the talk" (not interested in you) and she flipped. Told her she needed to keep her voice down (she escalated and I live in a duplex that doesn't insulate noise too well) and she REALLY ESCALATED. Didn't waste a breath and told her she needed to go. She refused. Challenged me to do something about it. After repeating my demand calmly and her actively defying and trying to gaslight I threatened the police -- she challenged me to call them. I called them. Spent 15-20 minutes on the phone with dispatch (which was mildly a joke because i had to admit I was feeling "threatened" despite not really being afraid of this btch but feeling troubled by what might happen). Had to cleverly get her to follow me outside and then managed to slip by and lock her out while still on the phone with dispatch. She pitches fit, I shut the lights out on her. 5 minutes later she leaves voluntarily. Police show up 20 minutes later after I told dispatch she was gone. They questioned me and said they'd look out for her. Told me not to let her in if she showed up again. I was highly adrenalized for the rest of the night and it regressed me back into "the anger phase" of the red pill because I was pissed I couldn't just physically toss her ass out of my home.**
Long Version.
Last friday 1/27/17. It was around 830-9pm and I was preparing to go out and meet a couple buds that I haven't seen in a while (spending much less time with my friends due to different financial goals). I receive a text from a girl that I approached at a bar nearly a month ago and had an ONS with. She set off several subtle emotional-instability red flags for me and I decided it wasn't worth a repeat visit, so I ghosted her realizing any explanation would be too much effort. On that night she sends a picture of a glass of wine and some painting thing she was doing with friends in the area (some kind of paint bar nearby). Asks me what I'm doing and I tell her I have plans to go out with some friends. She says she's doing the same thing and asks if I want to hang out.
Hindsight being 20:20, my (small) head and gut had their first clash and I'm disappointed I ignored my gut instinct (I'm almost always punished for ignoring my gut instincts) by opening a crack in the possibility of meeting later (after deciding that I should definitely not see this girl again), "that sounds nice but I'm hanging with friends I haven't seen in a while, I'm feeling kind of lazy though. Maybe I'll call it an early night". I put my phone down and start getting ready to head out. When I return to my phone there are three texts from her:
"Hey I'm here. Sorry that was fast" "I was in the area, thought I'd stop by" "Don't make me feel weird"
I get a bad feeling in my stomach, more than a little annoyed, take a deep breath and decide, well fuck it, guess I have to deal with this now (wish I pretended I wasn't home in retrospect). I text her, "I have to unlock my door, hold on". Walk down and she's there behind the fucking front door just waiting. I unlock it and just shake my head (like, "oh you"...) at her and sigh as she says something like "shut up, don't make me feel awkward" as she walks by and up the stairs to my second floor apartment. I say in a mildly unamused tone, "yeah ok just get in there then" and shove her on the ass from behind. She says something like, "stooopp" in that don't tease me kind of way
I keep a fairly tidy place but there's usually stuff I tend to give a once over when I'm having girls over like the bathroom and such, so I tell her I'm going to the bathroom, take a piss and make sure there's no man-pubes or shit streaks on the toilet bowl (why would I care when she came over uninvited, oh well). When I come out she's laying on my bed next to my dog on her phone. I join her, "So what's up?"
She goes on a flurry of spastic tangents about her day with her kids at school, her date with her friends (who have boyfriends), and some other shit and cozies up to me. She's fairly fit HB6.5-7 (could be better but she's hitting wall fairly hard at 30) so my hands go where they want. I'm pretty intuitive to people's behavior and because of the spastic nature of her thoughts (which at first I thought was just her being nervous 'cus she knew she shouldn't have just showed up) I ask her point-blank, "Are you drunk?"
She halts and goes wheel-spinning in her head as she looks off, "uhhhhh....what's the right answer?" she asks.
"its okay if you are, I want to know"
She half-confesses to having a few in her system.
Dialogue continues for a few more minutes and then she says, "So my friends want me to come out" (she reads a text from one) "want to come with me? I'll tell them, 'this is Dawnlander, he's kind of weird but he's ok". I give a mock "ha" and remind her I have plans with my own friends and encourage her to join her friends. "That's okay," she says without pause, "I'll just come with you" "Thaat's not what I'm trying to do..." I say, hoping she'll get the hint. "I haven't seen them in a while, so I'm trying to catch up" "I can come with you," she says, "its no big deal, I'm cool"
For some reason my brain starts to fatigue here as I realize she's not going to make this easy for me and I admit that I'm not really feeling like socializing, I'm only going out to catch up with some buds that I haven't seen in a while.
This is where those red flags I detected in the first encounter reappeared, "Why are you changing your mind so fast, what's wrong with you? You just said you wanted to hang out" she interjects with a not-so-amused tone... None of this makes rational sense to me so I take a very deep breath (breath control is everything with mental state control) and let out a sigh as I realize, fuck, I have to just tell this bitch I'm not interested in her and end this situation (I should never have let her into my castle, very regretful and angry at myself for that). She starts spewing out a few insults in that time and all I can remember is saying calmly and plainly, "If I'm that fucked up, what does that say about you?" . Surprisingly, between her rants she concedes that point with something like, "that means I'm fucked up...Actually that makes me worse"...
In the span of a couple seconds several thoughts pass through my head as my brain tries to consolidate this information into the best, most direct, least nuclear way of telling this girl I'm not interested in the same things she's interested in (from our past dialogue its obvious to me she's surrounded by friends who have babies and LTRs and she's the odd-girl out...no surprise really, f*ing shrike). I think a lot of mainstream advice in this area (telling someone you're not into them) is misguided and will encourage you to be kind and direct and blah: "its not you its me" that kind of stuff. That doesn't really work but I don't think I've ever experienced a woman take rejection in a sane way (maybe once). To be self-critical again, my nice guy instincts were getting the better of my thought process.
I was trying to avoid triggering more emotional reactions (this is bad programming on my part, you can't control other people, especially those of the Cluster B persuasion), so my analytical brain decided I needed to say something like, "I don't have the same interests as you and you should be able to focus on finding what you want"....As a tangent, my brain doesn't think verbally, I think visually, symbolically, systems-oriented, kinaesthetically, etc...I have to "translate" my thoughts into English so I usually talk very deliberately with pauses here and there to process what I'm trying to communicate.
The first words out of my mouth were, "[name], I think you're a traditional girl...." The elipses (...) indicates I wasn't even finished with my damn sentence before she explodes "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS OVERTHINK EVERYTHING?! YOU ALWAYS DO THAT, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM BLAHBLAHBLAH" -- She gets inappropriately loud here.
Now, in the span of microseconds more multiple streams of information are trying to process what is a completely incoherent response [one thought was, yeah I do overthink things sometimes, another was wait? what the fuck? I've hung out with this girl ONCE and by all outside observers I'm VERY laconic...there would be no reason for her to claim I overthink anything, the last thought in that microsecond, this bitch needs to keep her fing voice down*].
So my immediate reaction: "Shhh.." I gesture for her to keep her voice down and before I can say anything, those BLACK FUCKING PUPILS (the pupils of true BPDs and other psychopaths) just AWAKEN as she growls through gritted teeth, "Don't. Tell. Me. To. Be. Quiet"
This instantly triggered memories of "the One" LTR I had in my early to mid 20s that was just like this when she snapped; "The One" that ultimately scooped me on my ascent coming off the Appalachian Trail and full of excitement for more adventure and left me a cringeworthy, oneitis obsessed, POS. This crazy bitch was reenacting the same exact reactions in the same scenarios. She was as intentionally menacing as she could manage as she stared directly into my eyes. Again, I take that Zen-inducing deeep breath, inhale fully, exhale completely and say, calmly and quietly, "I have a neighbor below me with an infant child and this house is paper thin, so you have to keep your voice down"...
The italicized words in my sentence indicate where she interrupted me before I could finish again and she says with a more firm tone, "Don't tell me what to do"...She then goes into a stream of gaslighting and insults, "You're really a psychopath! What is wrong with you" ad infinitum... I can't remember the flurry of nonsense that came out of her mouth and it doesn't matter, it was all of the same nature. That's when good old instinct and experience kicked in and I took another deep breath, rubbed my brow and eyes to release the tension there, sat up calmly and with a completely unamused tone, "Ok, you need to leave" as I got up and walked out of my room.
I can't remember what she said, it was more gaslighting/insults/protests (see the pattern?) and I was ignoring her as I walked out into my living room, sat on the couch and started texting my friends to see where they were so I could go out and meet them. She follows me out, makes more accusations in the form of questions (another pattern that LTR did, try to hook your brain with emotionally charged, closed-ended questions, "whats wrong with you?"-stuff but in all the creative ways women are capable of). I ignored her for a few of these and then calmly repeated, "you need to go."
More of the same on her part. I'm totally ignoring her besides the couple times I repeated myself calmly for her to leave. She then tells me she won't leave and I can't make her. Thank god for the community and an understanding of basic legal rights because it was very natural and easy for me to explain, "Actually you're on private property, you were not invited over and I've asked you to go multiple times. At this point, if you don't leave I'm going to have to call the police."
She grins a psycho-grin and raises her eyebrows saying, "Do it"
"Okay" I say as I pick up my phone, put it on speaker and voice command google to call "[my city] Police Department"...fully expecting her to hear the ringing and realize I'm not joking. But nope. She's stands there with her psycho black eyes smiling. As the phone rings and the female dispatcher picks up, my mind again start to juggle multiple streams of info: why the fuck is she smiling? this bitch is psycho... Wait, is she going to try and get me in trouble? My mind races as I explain to the dispatcher a woman came over uninvited and won't leave my property after multiple requests and I would like an officer to come and help me. I'm trying to think of what she might try to do that would make her stand there after she can clearly hear me talking to the fucking police department to send an officer over. The officer asks me if I'm feeling threatened, I check into my body state and my heart is pounding, adrenaline is now being released, I could feel it. I tell her, "yes". Dispatcher asks if I can see any weapons, I say no... The adrenaline makes the minor details a blur here but I had the instinct to realize, I don't want the cops in my house and if I don't stay here, this fing psycho will not have anything to feed her narcissistic desire for conflict* (starve the fuel). So I walk outside while talking to the officer.
I walk outside to the sidewalk and keep answering the officers questions, my brain is mildly disoriented from adrenaline and all the thoughts about crazy women, the double standard of law, and the dispatchers questions about "me feeling threatened" and her instructions if I can get to a car and lock it, and not wanting to leave this psycho in my house alone with all my valuable film equipment, etc. I'm also thinking about the irony of her asking me if I feel threatened: I could only think "Yes, I feel threatened because I can't just legally grab this *** *** by the hair, drag her outside and toss her into the front yard and tell her without any mincing of words, that this is my fucking house and if you think you can threaten me with your snotty fucking stubborn attitude you're mistaken.*
But I had to just play along and take that feeling inside me and just tell the dispatcher she's psychologically threatening me, or something along those lines.
The girl comes out. I comment on that to the dispatcher, "Oh she just came out" -- The girl hears that and says, "Oh actually I'll go back in" and turns back to the door.
I make sure I comment loudly and clearly, "Oh she's going back inside" and that causes her to stop in her tracks.
She comes down towards me and I walk past her to my steps. The dispatcher asks if she's still there, asks for a description of her, her name, her car, her license plate...I'm saying all this and she's still just grinning and says, "YUP STILL HEREE" and cocks her head like a damn movie character (thinking that chick from fight club that's in all the Tim Burton movies). I get one more wave of feeling how much I don't really like to interact with law enforcement and hold the phone to my chest and with the calmest most sincere voice I can manage say, "Will you just go? Please. You don't need to get arrested if you leave now." She refuses in a very self-assured way. I ask the dispatcher, "is there something I can say to this girl to get her to leave, do you have any advice" and the woman on the phone just says, "That's why we're sending an officer" and she asks me to find shelter again -- I realize the door is behind me and I'm between the girl and the house, so I promptly turn around, go inside and smoothly shut and lock the door at the same time as psycho b*tch slams against the door and glass, wide-eyed, telling me to unlock the door and then goes back into histrionic accusations of me being "an absolute psychopath". I just shake my head at her briefly acknowledging her before turning away (in the manner of, "you're pathetic") and walk upstairs turning the light off on her, hoping she doesn't smash too loud (she does bang on the door for a bit and shouts but she's outside and public exposure gets the better of her -- these types like the privacy of the home to really let out the demon).
I go upstairs, the officer on the phone says she would like to stay on the phone with me until the officers get there. My adrenaline is jacked so I'm in a sort of bullet-time and have to really fight to not go look out the window and encourage this girl with any attention. To my sweet f*ing relief, a few minutes later I peak out and see her rounding the driveway to her car. I tell the dispatcher she's leaving. Dispatcher says officers are coming anyways to talk to me and make sure she doesn't come back. While I'm talking to her I get a text from this girl saying something like "you're a psycho" again (yeah, okay), I text her back "stop contacting this number"... then my phone starts blowing up...NON STOP CALLS FROM HER. I can't focus on the dispatcher's questions and I can't get to the "block" feature that's buried within the contacts sub-menu because every time she calls, I hang up on her and she calls again, imposing the call screen over all the other menus. SOMEHOW I manage to quickly get to her contact entry and get to the block feature and its over. I have no idea what other texts or calls await on the other side of that cyber wall and I don't want to know.
Adrenaline is going hardcore so it seemed like forever that I was waiting but they show up. I meet them outside. It appears my city has hired the BLM de-escalation team, a tall imposing black man and a short black woman of Somalian descent (by her name) arrive [this is just me joking around here, they were excellent officers but I had a suspicion that they were specially picked to de-escalate this crazy white woman after last years BLM protests in my small city (which was composed of entirely white women making some statement of solidarity with "brown people" and issuing a request for the department to acknowledge their statement). The police department here is excellent, back to the end of the story though]: I explain the story moment for moment to them. The she-cop is skeptical at first and bluntly asks "how do you know this girl" in a way that's like, "is she really randomly there or have you been fucking her regularly". I tell her bluntly it was a hook up a month ago and I had not talked to her since then and she just showed up. I explained how the situation went down and kept noticing the guy make micro expressions in solidarity with me, like, "man this girl is out of her fucking mind". Which I appreciated. They tell me they'll be in the area and will keep a look out for her and to not let her in if she shows up again.
I didn't hang out with my friends that night. I was adrenalized and just started diving back into manosphere readings (which I usually go away from for long periods of time and come back to refresh and re-affirm my frame and not feel like I'm completely insane for dealing with some of the shit out there) all night to let the adrenaline wear off.
END STORY
The next few days I had a minor sort of PTSD, feeling very violated and disempowered because I had to go to that length to get rid of her, when all I could think about was 100-1000+ years ago this behavior wouldn't be acceptable and I would be totally validated to just toss her the fuck out physically and banish her for those psychological threats and psychotic behavior. I was fucking mad (am still mad) that I had to jump through such hoops to defend my turf and claim a real hard boundary.
Thank you to anyone who felt compelled to read this. I appreciate this forum and this community immensely. Male space and male communities are absolutely essential to our health and development as human beings and this is a very unique and special place. I hope none of you have to experience this (I know many of you have). And if you do, please don't engage these psychos. They gaslight and try to lure you in by ignoring anything you say (most women do this, BPDs and the like are just very extreme). Claim the boundary HARD AND FAST, and use law enforcement wisely when necessary. ALWAYS TRUST YOUR GUT. Your dick will make unnecessary concessions for an easy lay.
Again, I'm not looking for any validation but your constructive feedback or comments are definitely welcome. I would love to hear from others who have dealt with this kind of stuff successfully or unsuccessfully and maybe we can create a dialogue that better informs all of us on how to handle this shit in the future. I feel a hell of a lot better being able to get this out in a long-form format.
Peace.
ecosci 7y ago
So how much is this book god damnit man,if a woman ever sets you up with the cops shes doing it because she is guity of something trying to deflect it to you for vaidation its never about being wrong thats why they nag until something happens so she can go into victim mode and your in trouble as a result they cant handle rejection very well.
MalkavianJ 7y ago
What a fluid, compelling post. You mentioned having expensive film equipment, and the auteur you surely are shines through.
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Hey man, why didn't you just grab her by the pussy and tossed her out?
memphisjohn 7y ago
Damn she seriously sounds like a chick I made the mistake of briefly dating. Sorry bro. Thanks for sharing.
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akru3000 7y ago
While reading this my stomach flipped upside down, my Ex would do this exactly. Pupils dilated, gas lighting. Ignoring anything I said. ESPECIALLY AFTER A FEW DRINKS. that liquid courage helps blast the psycho door wide open with that bullshit behavior.
I believe the psycho wants the physical altercation to happen so they can feel something, anything. Ex admitted it turned her on when I would get angry and yell at her when she did these behaviors. She would say "It got me wet when you yelled, why don't you get mad more often"
Idk where I'm going with this but OPs story opened a memory can my brain successfully buried. Never tolerate that bullshit
Dystaxia 7y ago
Some women crave fights for that power dynamic to really be established. Absurdly toxic.
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I read the abridged version. You were threatened, bro. Just because she could not have done you physical harm, it does not follow that this situation did not represent a threat in myriad other ways. Looks like you handled it well.
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RedBigMan 7y ago
Fuck your ego. Just realize that you were engaging in powertalk. You needed to say the proper keywords to assert your power over the situation. She doesn't represent an immediate physical threat to your well being but she does represent a future threat to your health and well being by potentially becoming a lying cunt who tells the police you beat her up and raped her or some stupid shit like that and because of the way the current political climate is 'always believe the 'victim'!' they get away with it too.
In this situation you did absolutely everything right. Short of her grabbing a knife and trying to stab you any act of physical force would likely end up with you in jail.
TomFoo 7y ago
Good thing you stayed home after all that. Lesson learned: Don't let uninvited into your abode, it's not good exercise of frame.
RedDeadlift 7y ago
What a nightmare. Thanks for sharing, stories like these help others know what to look out for.
When you mentioned she was 30, the story made more sense in my head. There tends to be a higher rate of craziness as they approach and hit 30.
As a side note, you write incredibly well. I was captivated throughout your whole story.
redpillbanana 7y ago
As I read the story, all I could think about was how PRIVILEGED this woman is. If a guy tried to pull something like this, there's a good chance he'd get a tire iron to the face, and everyone would pretty much agree that he deserved it. This woman knows that if you lay a finger on her, you're going to jail now!
The only men who are allowed to hit women are policemen.
logicalthinker1 7y ago
Who in the fuck doesn't know how to deal with cops? Am I the only one who was fucking taught right? You don't interfere. You do what they say. If they're in the wrong, you fuck them in court.
Flawless44 7y ago
Unless they're either literally trying to kill you, or so incompetent that they may aswell be, in which case better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 applies.
radioactivities9 7y ago
Why do asshats try to break up girl fights? At most anyone should do is pulling a chick off if she's viciously beating one on the ground. most chicks can't punch hard, no one's gonna end up with a broken jaw. instead this guy ends up hand-cuffed cuz the police have to. he would probably still try to break up a chick fight again lol
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Women only respond to power. Has always been that way. Men who find themselves in these situations aren't fully conscious of the power dynamic, or are willing to trade power for sex and female company. Just from the beginning of the story, you can tell the girl feels completely at ease and unrestrained. A woman has to fear you to fully respect you. Alphas punish immorality and injustice. Women and betas [male women] punish weakness.
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That was like reading a horror story. You handled it calmly, good work bro.
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I didn't read all all of it, glad you had the summary.. replied to read in the future (probably not)
But from how long your thing seems, you must have been through alot.
I wish you the very best and hope you can find the answers you seek.
Gugulen1 7y ago
You handled that like a pro. Seriously, she sounds insane. Kudos to you for de-escalating so well.
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ISwallowedRP 7y ago
You handled the situation beautifully. If I were you, I'd have lost it, during her "smiling" and would have grabbed her by her hair and thrown out of my property. Among all that, you sir, remained rational and calm. Again, a job well done
6-_-j 7y ago
I once physically picked up a woman and carried her out of my house because she wouldn't leave. I don't know how that could be construed as assault but who knows with the Duluth model.
Bitchezbecrayy 7y ago
As a rule of thumb, you should audio record the shit out of every interaction you have with a bitch in private. We all know whose word they'd consider gospel truth in the event of a shitstorm, at which point you're pretty much guilty unless proven innocent.
This is why I bait my plates to get the kind of answers I know would totally exonerate me if one of them decided to pull some crazy shit to get back at me once I drop them. Never happened, but I still got all those recordings. So, I'm always asking questions like "You really like it when I pull your hair and spank that glorious ass of yours, don't you?", "How badly do you want me to do X?", "What is it about rough sex bordering on rape that really gets women off?".
This is all about voice tonality and then steering the conversation to make her elaborate to the point where I feel I got enough leverage. Basically, the more depraved her answers are, the better. Always be recording, my brothers!
logicalthinker1 7y ago
I feel ya dude. Kinda sucks that men have to do that. But if you ever need to pull out the evidence, boy would that be sweet. I'm already getting a justice boner just thinking of it.
Lsegundo 7y ago
I have two theories about this.
Women are so starved for masculine men it has been perverted into a lust for aggressive sex.
Recently had a woman that requested hard choking, bruises, and other stuff during sex. It was a bit much for me...
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Lsegundo 7y ago
ill put my hands on her throat, spank her ass red, grab her wrists, toss her around in bed, pull hair etc etc
There is something about really choking them that is such a turn off to me. I guess I still want the sweet delicate flower not the aggressive slut.
JackGetsIt 7y ago
We've come to a sad place in gender relations when men are forced to record conversations for fear of legal and social manipulations.
e4tshit 7y ago
exactly what I was thinking. I have cameras in my car and I just got done backing up the footage from last nights date before I read this post. 2017 and I have a "anti-false rape" folder on my computer.
absolucion 7y ago
Jesus Christ. I'm glad you were able to get out of that situation relatively unscathed (save for the PTSD).
Hopefully she hasn't tried to contact you since this happened.
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juliusstreicher 6y ago
You are 100% wrong. Anything that a crazy woman does is NOT stupid shit. It is enough to get him thrown into prison. He did well. He could spend 5 fucking hours talking her down, promising, pleading, cajoling. Or, he could have called a professional who can take care of this stuff. And, the cops have a legal document/record of him reporting her for harassment, as well as an audio recording of her silliness.
Cost to him: one night of partying with the bros missed.
Benefit to him: Maybe years not spent in prison.
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Dystaxia 7y ago
I'll entertain the idea to always hold frame so let's establish motivations now. What does he want from this girl? Absolutely nothing. She has demonstrated that she's a lunatic and any relation will be surely severed at this point. He wants her to leave so he can get on with his business. To stick to his frame he needs to follow through with this demand and remove her from his property. He can't physically escort her out of his house without losing frame and more importantly rational fear of the consequences. What is he to do except escalate and call the police? Are you saying to keep frame more effectively he should just let her stay in his house until she decides to damage something? Perhaps he can ask her if she's thirsty and fetch her a glass of water. Get out of here with that noise. He made a demand and escalated the situation appropriately to make sure his needs were met. Well handled situation.
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I read the whole thing and I completely understand that adrenaline time warp. Blood is pounding in your ears while all you can think of is grabbing her and tossing her, but your logical center knows that's exactly what she wanted so she could trap you into getting in trouble. Good job!
favours_of_the_moon 7y ago
If she can access your lizard brain, YOU LOSE!
Way to stay cool dude.
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Exactly. The whole "why don't you just grab her hair, twist her arm behind her back and throw her the fuck off your porch" thought was racing through my mind the entire time I was reading. But... that is precisely what would have made this a sob story instead of a victory.
not-hardly 7y ago
Are there laws against forcefully ejecting someone from your domicile?
gg_s 7y ago
In most cases, yes. You may need to have them trespassed, or if they can claim residency, an order of eviction to have them physically removed.
That stuff is minor league compared to a domestic violence charge. If it comes down to physically removing someone by force, chances are there will be a struggle, there will be visible injuries, and you will go to jail.
kraken9911 7y ago
The longer I live away from America, the more I realize how fucking litigious we are. Just like in those videos where people are getting into a verbal argument and both sides are standing there with phones recording each other. It's absurd.
CS192837465 7y ago
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theredpillager 7y ago
DUDE. SAME. I came here to read the comments before PMing him to at least ask what state. There's more to it than just the girl though, the way he describes the city, the BLM movement in said city, how awesome the police are in said city, potential age of woman, I'm like "is this my ex?" I am not yet unconvinced this might actually be her.
OP, with said girl, I also went through almost exactly this same scenario, and the results were not so fortunate for me. Hesitant to go into detail for fear of revealing my identity, but man, as crazy as it seems, you lucked out. It does not take much at all for the cops to go the other way. I highly recommend you see if you have any confirmation from her that the sex was consensual in case the thought of a false rape accusation crosses her mind. If you don't, perhaps try to obtain such confirmation from her, although that risks opening the can of worms again.
edit: OP mentions city population below. Unless the ex moved, definitely not the same girl. But damn, so many parallels.
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RPmatrix 7y ago
"crazy in the head, crazy in bed" and they HATE rejection and retaliate like this!
They're usually great fucks too, which keep many guys coming back, but all hell breakks lose should he decide to walk
you ghosting her OP was the ultimate insult to a BPD female!
well played though, it's why you were able to get away so lightly -- shit, had she made it out with you to the 'reunion' ... I hate to think of the Drama!
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Manwith1name 7y ago
The only reason they seem to have a body type is that only the hot ones can get away with perpetrating that shit. The nastys just become fish mouth SJWs
REEEEE_TRUMP_BAD 7y ago
Can confirm. BPD chicks are legitimately crazy and know how to manipulate your thoughts/feelings.
My ex got me super involved in her life/was texting me/calling me 10 times a day for weeks and then suddenly just stopped. Legitimately crazy.
gazzaa2 7y ago
""I think BPD is an extreme exageration of female characteristics.""
That's exactly what it is. It's extreme AWALT and they're chameleons as well, so they can be really feminine or cutesy or devilish.
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I understand that BPD is extreme exaggeration of female traits, and autism is the extreme exaggeration of male traits.
billsmashole 7y ago
So maybe they see your narcissism as a challenge? Like if they can knock your ego down, they win?
dr_warlock 7y ago
Men, trembling like pussies before 120lb children in their own home because they're aftaid of what Uncle Sam will do if they stand up for themselves. Should I stand up for myself? Jail? Or should I let her wreck havoc on my property and social life? Let's call Uncle Sam that a little girl is 'terryfying' me. They didn't take you seriously, yet at the same time take it seriously that you dont call them and standup for yourself. Bullshit. The current government system is beta. There should be no reason a man cant feel safe to uphold his rep, property, and safety in his own home. If you dont, it means you dont own that home, Uncle Sam is just renting it to you. Disgusting.
gg_s 7y ago
OP made himself a shit sandwich, no doubt, but he ate it appropriately. You're on some take-a-stand-against-the-government bullshit that would invariably turn OP's minor fuck-up in to a colossal fuck-up. Embarrassing himself on the phone versus injuring the bitch and risking charges was the wisest decision OP made that night.
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dr_warlock 7y ago
You felt stupid telling other adults that you felt threatened by a 120lb child and you could sense they thought it was ridiculous and didn't care. But if you were to stand up for yourself and beat her instead of calling the police, they would take it very seriously and would have come much faster than 20mins later.
Exactly_what_I_think 7y ago
Did the report include her name?
Did / will you file a restraining order?
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Exactly_what_I_think 7y ago
Do you intend to change any habitats with women moving forward?
EX. This has convinced me to grab a pic of women license plates.