Intro: As Men we undoubtedly have sexual needs; leaving these unattended to will either bring us misery or discipline. If we don't have the discipline to endure the misery, what is better: to satisfy our needs on an easy (possibly sub-par) girl, or the only lover with any loyalty in life, our hand?
Where's the Dignity? An easy woman is such, we call her booty, late at night, not for her camaraderie, but for her willingness to satisfy us. Although Hoes Can't Bring You happiness (see my previous post, I can't submit the link without auto deletion) they can relieve the pressure building up inside. If a man is more refined along his journey, Perhaps it is more beneficial for him to look elsewhere, to more refined women in order to refine himself. Although a refined man may be able to enjoy a one night stand, but perhaps it is wiser for him to enjoy a night by himself, with out the distractions of low grade women (if a more refined one is unavailable for the moment), maybe it is better for him to refrain entirely?
Self Satisfaction: Although a trice with a Hoe can bring some limited satisfaction, maybe it is wiser to pursue other objectives. Even though one's sexual needs are being met, thus they are not "desperate" every time they interact with a women, they're neediness to lay every hoe they come across develops into a form of desperation in their inability to say, "No," to a Hoe. Perhaps mastering one's sexual drive, being able to withstand dry spells without indulgence in lower quality women, is a truer signifier of a non-desperate male. Maybe a hedonistic approach to women won't serve us in the long run?
Hoes Require (some) Game, Hands Never Say No: If someone has difficulty pulling hoes, maybe it is beneficial for them to slay a few (or dozen). This way they can develop their Game, refine their SMV, fix their quirks and odd ball reactions. However a man should reach a point where he doesn't need to fuck a Hoe to know that he is capable. He doesn't have anything to prove, not even to himself, because he is sure of his capabilities. He doesn't need to fuck any kind of women to prove anything to himself, because he already knows who he is. When a man has his standards set, perhaps it is best for him to tell a Hoe, "No." As he doesn't need her, she needs him.
Conclusion: Although there is much we can learn from banging tons of women (some easy some not) he should reach a point where banging hoes is no longer a challenge. This is precisely when he must start screening women that bring more to his life then a set of open legs: Home cooked meals, A clean apartment, thoughtful hand made gifts. A women that opens her legs for a man (and only that) only provides the very basic physical necessities to a man, but she does not deepen his life in any way. Maybe it's time for us to say, "No" to Hoes.
Thank you for the read and good luck on your Journey Brothers.
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Honestly I agree with you but I have to say that my girlfriend's home cooked meals are fucking useful for the moment. Once I'm done with my Master's degree maybe i'll get some time to cook but now I'm glad she cooks.
redpillren 7y ago
I'm an old dude but it seems to me chasing skanks is not worth the effort most of the time.
Whilst awalt is a universal truth there are higher quality women who can enhance you as a man. Who wants to eat rancid meat, other than the desperate?
p3n1x 7y ago
If she is an actual skank, there is no chase in the first place.
sigma272 7y ago
Agreed. I've only met a few truly high quality women, but they do exist. Their distinguishing trait seems to be that they understand their female nature and actively work to control it.
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I concur that high quality women are more aware than your basic bitch.
Revorob 7y ago
That would have to be the most astute observation I have read in a long time.
QruCiFiX 7y ago
Except for Patrice o' neals wife von decarlo brown i have never met or even seen such a woman. High quality are the ones who take care of themselves and behave like a woman should and have some form of discipline. No woman stops herself from nagging nowadays unless you tell her about it
p3n1x 7y ago
Even the "highest quality" (extremely subjective borderline pedestal title) woman will lay everything down, go against every single delusional rule she has created for the right guy.
aznredpill 7y ago
How do you screen for this
sigma272 7y ago
If you ever discover a reliable method, please cut me in on 0.01% of your profits. I've always fancied a private island....
p3n1x 7y ago
Too subjective for there to be a golden set of rules. Everyone screens differently. If it were the same, looks wouldn't matter.
p3n1x 7y ago
So, act like a ho for a little while, to not actually want the ho's, to have a deeper more meaningful relationship later? (all validated because you are overcoming your "quirks")... You may be at that point in your life, but shouting out like a mantra doesn't make sense.
The_BitterTruth 7y ago
All depends what you want out of it.
GoingTheHardWay 7y ago
Indulging in lower quality women? When was this originally written?
The game is rigged now. 60-80% of single men are getting zero or next to zero sex. They have zero options or next to zero prospects. Low quality women don't have to settle for anything less than top 20 - 30% men.
p3n1x 7y ago
That sounds like victimizing a jackass that shoots themselves in their own foot. Or needs some whiny statistic to excuse their failz.
sd4c 7y ago
Do you have any statistics to back this claim up?
nonthaki 7y ago
You are right . OP is also saying as though Some Hoes dont even demand anything in return for sex . As though Hoes are mindless nymphomaniacs only thinking of fulfilling their bodily desires, and will beg men or go to men for sex . Just because OP feels she is giving sex for free doesnt mean he will keep on getting sex from her everytime - The tap will close sometime in life . And unless he is so sure that she will give you sex Everytime without anything in return and whenever he wants it, he cant claim that she is an easy lay or His HO .
Many women are manipulative including many Hoes , and there is always some catch or something she gets in return for sex (maybe validation of having fucked Chad, attention from men and also entertaining disdainment from women because every girl's bf is looking at her - Think of that pregnant bitch in the movie Grease .
Bullshit . OP still hasnt learned TRP . Refined women aka enough age to look for security and marriage Or declining smv Or Gold digger .
All women will fuck through college and CC , before deciding to settle down . And in MOST cases, this end product , the aged woman aka leftover of CC is what is a refined woman , cause she now has the wisdom that she has to marry before she loses her smv or hits the wall .
The_BitterTruth 7y ago
Originally written 9 hours ago after I just got done fucking a hoe.
I consider a Hoe a slutty woman who has nothing to offer to my life other then opening her legs for me; fat or homely woman. That's a low quality women to me. Perhaps in your eyes all women are low quality; that's a different issue.
The game has always been rigged, the odds have always been unfair. My point is for men who aren't at the top 20%, fucking a Hoe is probably more dignified then fucking their hand, it satisfies their basic needs, and relieves them of their human urges (if only briefly).
But for the men who are at the 20%, where fucking hoes is no longer a challenge, perhaps it's better to refine ones pallet to women to "Higher Quality" (Better looking, more feminine, better attitude, has something to offer then her pussy). To challenge themselves to pull "Higher Quality" women. To try to improve themselves so that they are attractive to a wider range of women.
QruCiFiX 7y ago
I think the point is that this sub is dedicated to getting men to the top 20% males and your post is telling those at the bottom that they shouldn't try to get low hanging fruit while the fact of matter is that it isn't low hanging fruit these days and shaming people for trying to get lower or mid quality pussy is what internet virgins do since they can't get any themselves "Her elbows were too pointy 2/10".
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p3n1x 7y ago
Like What? Conversation??? A romp around the Golf Course? A cuddle at the next sporting event? A beer at the pub and some dirty jokes?? GTFO of here with that.
Sorry, but this comes off as some way to bullshit rationalize a Unicorn. Are some women "better" to be around than others? Yes. But at at the end of the day, AWALT
-Ability to be a strong mother and defend your progeny. That is the only other offer.
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What references have you to back this claim up?
vagbutters 7y ago
Take a close look at the kinds of men that women are actually sleeping with (not the ones they marry and duty fuck every year)-- it's pretty evident that a handful of guys get laid. I'm happy it's this way, though-- a lot less competition since most guys my age (25) are overweight, scrawny, or just undesirable.
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I'm part of the handful that does get laid... I'm 24. It's hard to relate.
bornredd 7y ago
Who are these men? Is my social circle really that accomplished? I'd say of the single men I know (ages 25-50) 60% are getting sex regularly but not frequently, 20% are swimming in it, and 20% get none.
Paininabox 7y ago
There are a lot of incels out there that hide away from social events and aren't visible. Most men get no sex, some get the scraps, but it's only the upper echelons that can get pussy on a whim. Hypergamy. Sidebar shit.
bornredd 7y ago
Dude, I play Magic: the Gathering competitively. I can promise you that I've met a ton of them around. The fact is they're not that prominent in numbers unless they never leave home at all, and if that's the case - they have no one to blame but themselves.
Sex is a social activity.
Steve_Wiener 7y ago
So you're saying the fat mtg player stereotypes get laid regularly?
Lol, what are you saying?
(I play mtg very casually, incredible game.)
bornredd 7y ago
I'm saying that the fat, socially inept MTG players are less than 20% of the population at all the stores I frequent. There are tons of heavy guys who aren't socially inept in MTG that have girlfriends, wives, etc. They might be beta, but they're not incels.
p3n1x 7y ago
Saying the opposite.
It is the guys fault, not the females mate choosing process.
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Hoe is a word spelled correctly. Awful spelling Nazi.
vagbutters 7y ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted-- you're absolutely correct, and not exactly being pedantic.
sorceryofthetesticle 7y ago
Because some of these people are hoes; ain't worth more than to shove their face in the dirt and till the land with their jaw. You know, for sowing your seed. HOES